I was so proud.

GunRunner on April 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM

As well you should be, you are blessed to have sons like that, so is our country.

Beautiful.

I talked to my boys about this the day after. All of them were appalled that this could happen with guys in the room. My 14 year old said they acted like the Jews in Germany, going right to the gas chambers without fighting to live.

I was so proud.

:(

I’m pretty sure the en bloc clip holds 8 rounds.

I would suggest an SKS – modified with a TAPCO stock and other goodies – throw anything and everything on it that makes it look every bit the assault rifle we love the Democrats to hate.

HondaV65 on April 8, 2009 at 10:27 PM

I purchased my first firearm end of last year… a Yugo SKS that looks absolutely WICKED. I had to disassemble it to get all the cosmoline out of the gas tube, but now is an absolute joy to fire. I can’t wait until Easter. All my lib relatives getting together at my conservative mom & dads… and Dad said I could bring it to shoot! I’m going to give them fits! :)

TheMightyMonarch

Any well-made firearm, properly maintained, can be passed down to your children and most average citizens won’t “shoot out” their guns like a competitor might. Beware unscrupulous people selling “collector” guns that may be rag-wrenched junk or less desireable firearms with false markings made to look collectible. Revolvers are good defense weapons for newbies (in double-action mode they are less likely to go “bang” in the hands of the nervious), but so are shotguns, and in face to face confrontations the bad guy staring down the big bore pointed at his head will soil himself and shots may never need to be fired. In short, you can buy for self-defense and for collector value, but you ought to consider keeping those ideas separate. The self-defense weapon needs to be used repeatedly on the practice range and you might not want to put many rounds through a collector’s item.

Anyone have a unified field theory to explain the numbers?

Might could be people like the taste of freedom…

TheSitRep on April 8, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Care to defend that statement?

Anyone have a unified field theory to explain the numbers?

Yeah, AP, enough libtards finally realized that the way to make money was to embrace capitalism in secret or ride the stock market to wealth, they finally got some money, bought some nice stuff, some crackhead stole their stuff, they have a “come-to-Jesus” moment where they realized: “Hey, if I’d had a gun, I wouldn’t have gotten my benz jacked!”, hence, they become converts…

/sarc (kinda)

We don’t have to settle for being spoon-fed the prevailing wisdom of the msm. Now that the actual facts are available even the sheeple are beginning to make up their own minds.

If we survive the next four years, we just may make it.

Virginia Tech was Perfect a example of the insanity of the “gun free zone” How many other recent shootings happened in a “criminal safe zone”?

Remember: The 2nd amendment is not about owning a hunting rifle.

Badbrucskie on April 9, 2009 at 12:49 AM

Virginia Tech was, though I’ve yet to see anyone ever risk saying it, an example of cowardice. ONE person, ONE holocaust survivor, blocks a door with his body and directs students to flee, losing his life in the process. At one point the bad guy lines up I think ten guys against a wall in a room and takes his sweet time shooting them one by one all down the line. Did the guy at the end of the line think he was going to run out of ammunition before he was up for target practice? They knew they were going to die but none of them knew that they could overwhelm their attacker if they all or even some of them charged him? So what if one or two got shot in the process? So what if it was a mortal wound? When one has an opportunity to spare others and his own life is probably already forfeit, how can one stand there sniveling? My high school, twenty years after I left, had a lone miscreant shooting and a kid did indeed save the day by charging him, getting shot but surviving. A high-schooler understood honor and sacrifice but his “betters” pursuing their dreams of glory at an institution of higher learning managed to exhibit none of those attributes.

I personally was ashamed when I heard what happened, and I have no connection whatsoever with the institution. American men, age-wise they were men, stood like dumb sheep before a sole shooter and let them take their lives knowing that he would go on to seek other innocent lives, and they did not act.

I did not recognize America that day.

Our campuses do indeed need the right to conceal carry, but they also need thriving ROTC programs, so at least some of the populace will be learning about honor and sacrifice.

Yeah, preventing law-abiding citizens has done wonders here. We all know what a crime-free paradise Oakland is.

TheMightyMonarch on April 8, 2009 at 10:12 PM

And yet somehow a criminal got a gun and killed 4 police. gun control works so well

it is simple really. Americians have seen the results of gun control. Mainly more crime. americians are not stupid. they see the numbers. The fact is that there is more crime in high gun controlled areas. Thus Americians reject gun control laws

Clip or revolver? I’m thinking revolver, preferably a Colt or S&W since it can double as a collector’s item/investment later on.

TheMightyMonarch on April 8, 2009 at 10:01 PM

The Colt or S&W you might be considering as being worthy as a collector’s item later on would be those romantic looking single action revolvers. To fire, those require you to pull the hammer all the way back until it “cocks,” then you can pull the trigger. That is a slow process and actually enjoyable AT THE RANGE but you don’t want such for protection purposes. It’s confusing for some, but the single-action/double-action term refers to what is accomplished when you pull the trigger. A single action trigger will only drop a pre-cocked hammer. A double action trigger both raises the hammer and drops it.

Another note about single-action revolvers is that the cylinder stays completely in the frame at all times (unless disassembled) so loading and unloading is accomplished via a loading gate ONE SINGLE CARTRIDGE AT A TIME, and that’s not what you want in a personal/family defense situation. A double-action revolver cylinder swings out on a crane for unloading and reloading and is infinitely easier to deal with.

Double action revolvers generally have exposed hammers so you can cock it if you wish and then have an easier pull on the trigger to drop it. This is NOT what you want to do in a stress situation, especially if you are a newbie. The trigger is very sensitive when the hammer is cocked, and it takes little to drop it. You only want the gun to go off when you make a deliberate trigger pull, not an accidental one.

If there is a chance that your new weapon will be available to other members of the family in an emergency, and do consider that in a crisis you may very well wish to arm a family member that is not well-trained, then what is called a double-action-only revolver has a lot going for it. In this case the hammer is completely enclosed so a newbie cannot cock it, one can only pull the trigger. Can you imagine the stress of dealing with a family member that cocked the gun LIKE SHE SAW IN THE MOVIES but doesn’t have the strength/training/sense to carefully lower the hammer without creating a discharge of the weapon? The hammer has to go down before you can even unload the gun, and there are two ways to do it, safely, or not so safely.

Double-action-only revolvers, because they lack a protruding hammer on the tail end, are easier to draw in the sense that they won’t snag on clothing, and if you have to fire through your robe pocket in a front-door confrontation type scenario fabric cannot block the hammer and prevent it from firing.

Double-action-only revolvers like the S&W Centennial series are very well made and very popular, and Ruger has come out with the LCR, a partially polymer framed double-action-only revolver that shoots easier than the Centennials and is worth a look. They also can come very light and they are small, making them good choices for ankle carry and other situation.

Semi-automatic pistols, what I think you were referencing with your “clip” comment, are loaded via removable MAGAZINES, and can hold much more firepower than a revolver. Those Centennials are five shot, pistols can carry much more and reload much quicker. BUT, they require more training and more practice, and will be harder to expect a family member that has not trained with it to cover your back with it in a pinch. Although I might get smacked by folks saying one must always train train train, you need to be real honest with yourself about how much training you can and will actually do, and whether you trust any others that might need it to be able to deal with it in a crisis.

I have a Centennial and plan on getting a Ruger LCR and though I just upgraded to a pistol, I will never lose those simple revolvers because I simply cannot ask my wife who has yet to handle a firearm and who has very delicate hands to master all involved with a more complicated firearm. When the day comes that I carry concealed I’ll always have a revolver around for my wife to use if need be.

I don’t want to open a can of worms by telling you there is a best semi-automatic pistol out there, as they vary tremendously in operating methods with various safeties and magazine release buttons and such, not to mention that pistols also come in single and double action and also double-action-only varieties. I favor the double-action-only variety for the sake of simplicity and safety. Glock makes a good gun that requires you to simply pull the trigger without releasing safeties, but there are other guns in that game now and I find Glocks too big for my hands and their mag release buttons too hard to push. If you’re interested, I’d suggest looking at a Springfield Armory XD, which has some very unique features, is an ergonomic dream, and is very affordable. It’s made in Croatia but don’t let that stop you, Springfield Armory does good guns.

Comes in caliber of your choice, everyone likes 9mm, some folks like the hot.40 cal, but I favor the .45 not simply for the bullet size, but because the chamber pressure on that cartridge is much lower than the .40 making the .40 a bit of a kicker and the .45 a pleasure that feels more like pushing back than kicking up. I’m not saying the .40 is uncontrollable, but it requires more effort to recover from the recoil and regain the target.

Getting back to capacity and magazines, my XD-45 Compact comes with a ten round mag and a thirteen round mag. Carry the gun with “one in the pipe” (a round chambered, yes, it’s safe) with the ten round mag to make the gun easier to conceal, carry the thirteen rounder as a spare, and you have two dozen rounds of very effective ammunition available.

Hope I didn’t bore anyone, just trying to shorten the learning curve for those Patriots getting their acts together, but you’ll find gun folks are the nicest people, so you’ll find plenty of help out there. But please do do yourself a favor and do your homework before you buy.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
(If Zero hires Acorn to find all our guns, you never read this or heard of a guy named Maquis!)

Obama has plenty of cunning people working to further his agenda. Don’t be fooled, he may back off hand gun ownership but the assault weapon ban is right around the corner.
Note: .45 will get owned by 5.56 or 7.62 99% of the time.

Remember: The 2nd amendment is not about owning a hunting rifle.

(some of it decidedly creepy)

Allah you really are scum

When I say I have minimum exp with revolvers I mean to say I don’t own one but do fire one of two Blackhawk’s 5…6…times a year…surprisingly little recoil effect for the power…that’s with the full magnum load….I personally like the idea of changing a magazine and having another 15 rounds…for the hordes that is….J

And muslims, being muslims, will do get around to having their holy jihads in our shopping malls. The smart money is on the muslims jihading in states with gun control laws.

Gun sales are astronomical here in Kaleefornia. When I filled out the twenty pages of paperwork to get my Remington 870, the sales guy informed me that gun shops in the state are selling firearms at a rate of about 400 per day.

Every time I go into Sportsman’s Warehouse, or Wild Sports, or any other store around here, I see AT LEAST 1-2 people doing paperwork and 1-2 more people picking up.

In an hour or two.

At one store.

It’s a lot more than 400 a day.