Obamateurism of the Day
posted at 8:05 am on April 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
“Compared to Turkey and how old this civilization is, America is still very new.”
Well, compared to the civilization, perhaps — but not compared to Turkey. The nation of Turkey was created in the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, which had ruled southwest Asia and the present territory of Turkey for more than 600 years. Turkey was founded in 1923 in the chaotic flux of the Middle Eastern settlements after the end of World War I, as the Ottoman Empire’s lands got carved into the nation-states that exist today in the Arabian Peninsula and surrounding territories.
Compared to the US, Turkey and the rest of the nations in that region are actually quite young, not the opposite. In fact, that’s one of the reasons why Turkey rejects any responsibility for the Armenian genocide of 1915; besides denying that it took place at all, Turkey actually didn’t exist as a nation at that time. One might think that President Obama would take a moment to understand all of these issues before getting involved in them — and might also confirm the actual dates when nations got created before making those assumptions.
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So, does the guy stop campaigning long enough to … preside?
eforhan on April 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Ah-dolts in charge.
the_nile on April 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Stupidest President ever.
SuperManGreenLantern on April 8, 2009 at 8:11 AM
Maybe he remembered hearing that turkeys have been around pretty much forever and got mixed up. Could happen to anyone.
OneGyT on April 8, 2009 at 8:11 AM
If he would just stop trying to KISS EVERYBODY’S A$$ at America’s expense, we may only have an Obamatuerism a week!
singlemalt_18 on April 8, 2009 at 8:12 AM
I’d be happy if the danged fool would just take a moment to understand why socialism is a bad idea.
backwoods conservative on April 8, 2009 at 8:12 AM
Why would one think that at all? Obama and the people around them seem to be willfully ignorant of any history that doesn’t fit into their story line or time line.
myrenovations on April 8, 2009 at 8:12 AM
I think Harvard owes
Barry hisus our money back.So far, I’m quite disappointed with Harvard. Second look at community college.
Saltysam on April 8, 2009 at 8:14 AM
keep up the good work, Ed.
sesquipedalian on April 8, 2009 at 8:16 AM
So obama says that the native Indians didn’t have a civilization.
Ignorant-in-Chief
the_nile on April 8, 2009 at 8:16 AM
Hey! Maybe President Obama could combine his desires to nationalize businesses with his socialism and his use and control of the “pitchfork” crowd and form a new political party… sort of a nationalist/socialist party… what would be a good name for that?
CC
CapedConservative on April 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM
History of any kind, unless it involves an American frick up, is of no concern or consequence to The One or the press.
All of history is a moot point unless it involved the U.S. doing something that may have had a negative impact on any civilization.
Tim Zank on April 8, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Someone really needs to buy him the book…”History for Dummies”
becki51758 on April 8, 2009 at 8:18 AM
I want to see his Middle School, High School AND College transcripts.
ctmom on April 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM
Unfortunatly that is what he read… by a guy named Zinn…
CC
CapedConservative on April 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM
Thats a real book? oops..I didnt know.
becki51758 on April 8, 2009 at 8:20 AM
Me thinks Hopey is on a crusade,to ruin America,
one gaffe at a time!!
canopfor on April 8, 2009 at 8:22 AM
Not the right title but a real book… more of a “written by dummy”… Howard Zinn… sort of a history re-write to suit the left for indoctrinating kids.
CC
CapedConservative on April 8, 2009 at 8:23 AM
So, there’s the Turkey of Osmaniyya
And the Turkey of 1923.
Thanks! So he’s still wrong. He was speaking to the Republic of Turkey.
blatantblue on April 8, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Ya know,I bet if somebody programed TOTUS,with love
poems,I bet Obama wouldn’t skip a beat,and just think
its the speech!!(A bit of Sarc)
canopfor on April 8, 2009 at 8:24 AM
The comments on posts earlier in the day (before noon) are always nice b/c getalife is still sleeping and not around to post his/her automated thoughts.
Cue “Adults are in charge” in 5…4…3…2…
bluelightbrigade on April 8, 2009 at 8:26 AM
The Ottaman Empire may date back 600 years, but there were people living in the present United States 600 years ago, as well. If on is to credit Turkey with all of the experience and maturity of a 600-year-old civilization, then the United States should be credited with the experience and maturity of the Native American civilizations that were absorbed into our nation.
gridlock2 on April 8, 2009 at 8:26 AM
The One: “Uh . . .in fact, you all, uh, almost became our national bird. Then we all would have been speaking turkish! Uh . . . ‘Gobble gobble?”
geckomon on April 8, 2009 at 8:27 AM
Could somebody on his staff read a middle school world history book? Please????
This man is embarrassing.
ladyingray on April 8, 2009 at 8:27 AM
Speaking of “Turkeys”…
tree hugging sister on April 8, 2009 at 8:28 AM
he said “Compared to Turkey and how old this civilization is, America is still very new.” don’t embarrass yourself.
sesquipedalian on April 8, 2009 at 8:30 AM
hahaha
becki51758 on April 8, 2009 at 8:31 AM
If Dear Leader spoke of something that’s how it is. Why trouble yourself otherwise.
and BTW, I don’t think he is out to destroy America. He doesn’t care enough. He only cares about himself and we are just tools to his princely ambitions
billypaintbrush on April 8, 2009 at 8:32 AM
If you failed to learn from History,
your doomed to repeat it!!
And,Hopey is well on his way!
canopfor on April 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM
Oh sesqui-pedophile, I’m not embarrassed one bit.
with folks like you, Lenny Spankar, and Loud Dino around, who needs to feel bad about themselves?
blatantblue on April 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM
Why are we getting so upset about minor little things? Probably the vast right wing conspiracy is just making this stuff up anyway – don’t we all see how much he is adored by the whole world? Now that WE finally had the wisdom to elect such a brilliant orator???? – you can obviously see that I am sarcastic! That’s just about all we have left now, folks!
As a former German, and known for that fact in my small town here, I am often asked if I feel shame for what the Nazi regime did in Germany BEFORE I WAS EVER BORN!!!!! That is mighty big of some folks! My parents were teenagers during the war – talk about what their teenage years looked like and then think teens have it rough here! My dad was taken out of school at 16 – in 1938 (yes, that is the year the WAR started for Germany) and stuck in a uniform. He did not come home (thank God, he did!!!) until 1949! So his whole youth was WAR! My mom was sent out of town (Frankfurt, which has heavily bombed because of the airport, rail and roads there) and still had to hide in forests and bunkers during attacks! They NEVER talked about it when we were growing up, but gave us a feeling of having to stand up and talk about things as they happen, not AFTERWARDS! Now I see history being re-written over and over and over!
We need to take our country back as long as we still have a country!!!!! But I also know we cannot start in Washington, we have to start at HOME! Our town had a Tea Party last Saturday! VERY GOOD EVENT!!! I encourage EVERYONE to join these – peaceful protests, not about any specific taxes, but just in general to say “Enough is Enough!” Then we have to vote the bums we have locally OUT and start there…. People, get involved in your community, stay in close touch with your elected officials! I do! It does take a lot of time, but as long as it just takes me time, isn’t this country worth it????????
mkosin on April 8, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Touché, Ed!
Behold the lauded Ivy League education, AGAIN, in all of its Obama glorification.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 8:35 AM
USA is also older than Germany and Italy too. I never did get the “we’re a young country” meme. Even France in resembling its present governmental form is younger than the USA.
forest on April 8, 2009 at 8:35 AM
So it was written how ALL history textbooks used by schools are today. Textbooks are being rewritten and are biased. All of them from grade school clear thru to college.
becki51758 on April 8, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I don’t think Obama does this because he’s stupid. I think he knows, but wants to see how far he can push it before the press steps up and does it’s frickin’ job. Kinda like a game, but also to see how much rope he still has left.
amkun on April 8, 2009 at 8:37 AM
‘Gobble,gobble’?
geckomon on April 8,2009 at 8:27AM.
geckomon:
As Mr.Burns from the Simpsons would say,
your phrase was Excellent!hehe:)
canopfor on April 8, 2009 at 8:41 AM
What is often forgotten is that, as far as cohesive continuous governments is concerned, the United States is actually one of the oldest continuous governments going. France has had the Bourbons, the 1st Republic, the 1st Empire, the Bourbon Restoration, the Orleanist Monarchy, the 2nd Republic, the 2nd Empire, the 3rd Republic, the Vichy puppet regime, the 4th Republic and the 5th Republic since 1776. Germany did not become a unified state until 1871 and since then has undergone several government changes. Italy–1861 and also several government changes. Switzerland took its present form in 1848. The Ottoman Empire began in 1289 or so, but the Republic of Turkey came into being in 1923. China underwent a change from the Qing Dynasty to a republic to a communist regime. Japan–from the Tokugawas to the Meiji Restoration to its present post-occupation government. One of the few states that can claim to possess continuous government older than the United States is Great Britain–assuming the Glorious Revolution of 1683 as the start point.
So, ironically, while culturally younger than many other lands, as far as continuous governments is concerned, the United States is one of the oldest.
Matt Helm on April 8, 2009 at 8:45 AM
Actually his quote is correct. He was referring to his new socialized America. Which was born in 2009.
voiceofreason on April 8, 2009 at 8:45 AM
The POTUS has a lot in common with the likes of getalife, et.al.:
They open their mouth and allow the brain to take a crap. They believe the rest of us are there to clean the mess up at their pleasure.
Do not ever expect anything better from them and you will not, then, be disappointed.
Yoop on April 8, 2009 at 8:46 AM
OT, but: Somali pirates just nabbed a US-Flagged Maersk ship with 21 US Citizens onboard. Looks like VP Biden’s “test America in the first 6 months” prophecy is coming true again!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_af/piracy_8
jwehman on April 8, 2009 at 8:46 AM
What Obama and his ilk have succeeded in doing over the years [thank you, NEA] is to show us lowly pedestrian Americans that learning the details of history, and such, is not the stuff of the Ivy League. They are interested in “ideas.”
Often hairbrained ideas at that.
But the facts…they are meaningless to Obama and the Obamatrons.
The Turkey of Attaturk is under seige…and Obama calls to mind the Ottomans? The 600 years of Ottoman Islamist control over Turkey was not all the wonderful for the average Turk on the street. Attaturk knew this. He and the young lions tried to make sure that such would never happen in Turkey ever again. For this, Attaturk is and has been revered…but not for long, it seems.
Turkey is the one of the few successful sectarian Islamic nations having to deal directly with Islam and its fundamentalism. The past 80-plus years of modern Turkey are about to go down the tube…thanks to too many in the West seeing nothing wrong about Islamism…after all, according to the Obamatrons [and the NEA] who are we to judge any other nation?
The dream of Attaturk is about to be pushed aside, so we can allow Islamism to spread over the globe.
coldwarrior on April 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Parity is a necessary component to comparative political analysis.
If we are going to compare civlizations, as opposed to government constructs of a nation, the entire history of Britain is America’s.
Please don’t embarrass your professor.
Saltysam on April 8, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Obamas pathological obsession to cast aspersions on our nation every chance he gets trumps any desire he has to be accurate.
CarolynM on April 8, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Exactly, as long as he can tell the country of the day that they are better than the USA his mission is accomplished.
thomasaur on April 8, 2009 at 9:01 AM
This just breaking from Fox News…
Developing: Iran charged detained American journalist Roxana Saberi Wednesday with espionage, according to a Reuters report based on Iranian media.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513207,00.html
Sorry for the threadjack….
Scorched_Earth on April 8, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Seems the Turks were not all that impressed with Obama…
coldwarrior on April 8, 2009 at 9:03 AM
He KNOWS how stupid he is. But he can’t admit it.
You would be more accurate to presume that Obama insists on proving his ignorance in order to appear more weak than strong, AS IF that would make him more popular.
Most Pathetic Potus Obama: not misunderstood, just plain wrong.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 9:03 AM
How does President Omega’s garden grow?
In less than a week.
Saltysam on April 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM
How does President Omega’s garden grow?
In less than a week.
Saltysam on April 8, 2009 at 9:09 AM
So do they speak Ottoman in Turkey?
flytier on April 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM
coldwarrior
All of that “good sense of humor” black face paint seemed all the more pungent coming from the highly educated Turk whose own complexion had to be darkened before he’d permit himself to deliver lines “honoring” the noncommittal Obama who won’t reveal his own identity, let alone represent the USA over which he presides.
Obama is the vaudeville act touring Eurasia.
We get it. But we already knew it. THEY knew it, too. The only ones not in on the joke are Obama’s supporters, the most expensive commodity in OUR nation.
BTW, I wouldn’t permit my wealth to be spread to accommodate Obamasloths EVEN IF I HAD IT. Easy for me to say, you might say. Hardly.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM
OT but—Obama cancels trip to Normandy because hes worried about offending Germany. Give me a break.
He worries about offending foreign countries but not the American people.
becki51758 on April 8, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Unfortunately, Obama has become America’s turkey…the dumbest bird on earth.
Barb Dwyer on April 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM
You know… somehow I don’t think Giggles would have said that Israel is thousands of years old.
crazy_legs on April 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM
I’m waiting for Obama to embrace the CBC for reaching out to two other genocidal maniacs—-the Castro bros.
Rovin on April 8, 2009 at 9:24 AM
One has to be civilized to be a civilization.
Grafted on April 8, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Not so fast. What Obama meant was Germany or Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia or the Czech Republic or the Slovak Republic or Bosnia or Slovinia or Croatia or, or Serbia or Kosovo or Macedonia or Montenegro or. or , or something…….
Johan Klaus on April 8, 2009 at 9:25 AM
But did you ever notice that those people then turn around and refer to the SAME COUNTRIES as “developing nations” when they’re talking about forgiving loans and bestowing Global Warming credits.
All of a sudden, America is the declining old man who has nothing left to live for – just uselessly taking up space while it waits to die. And the countries that have been festering for thousands of years are spring buds – ready to blossom any second if only we’d give just a tiny bit more leeway and nurturing.
logis on April 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM
They talk Turkey.
Johan Klaus on April 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Saltysam
Bloody Obamary’s garden grows with tinkerbells and cockleshells and sweeties made all in a row.
Somali pirates won’t stay the ones in cockleshell light flimsy boats. Obama would tour Somalia to deliver his good will gesture with that portion of the US Navy he deems too expensive to maintain. Gotta love that line-by-line exorcising Chief Executive who knows be$t how to make US sacrifice.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM
And money.
Johan Klaus on April 8, 2009 at 9:30 AM
I can’t stand the “America is a young civilization and needs to follow the old people” crap. I’ll tell you what, old civilizations, go out and achieve the level of freedom and prosperity that we have and then you can tell us to follow your example. Cause I’m certainly not going to sacrifice my own sovereignty and good judgment to follow a bunch of backward thinking “cultures”.
patriette on April 8, 2009 at 9:30 AM
He was obviously referring to the various civilizations that have risen and fallen in Asia Minor (present day Turkey) that include the Hittites dating back to the 18th Century B.C. There are many things that he says that I find objectionable. This is not one of them.
tommylotto on April 8, 2009 at 9:32 AM
logis on April 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Following THEIR reasoning and precedence, the USA can declare bankruptcy and leave China in the hole holding the bag of debt from which there is no return.
That may be the selling line to coerce America into the New World Order permitting only one international currency. Our debt will be absolved by the great Messiah’s atonement.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Obviously, if things were so great in the old countries, why the hell did THEIR citizens immigrate to the USA?
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Excellent related editorial in the NY Post:
http://m.nypost.com/ms/p/nyp/nyp/view.m?id=23772&storyid=163368
KS Rex on April 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Morons need not assume that I do not appreciate the concept of immigration.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 9:37 AM
That’s a racist remark by Obambi, totally ignoring the native American culture that has been around in the Americas for thousands of years. :(
poxoma on April 8, 2009 at 9:38 AM
The old Ireland and old Czech Republic have mimiced the young U.S. in their economic revival.
Johan Klaus on April 8, 2009 at 9:38 AM
By quarter past eight in the morning…?
Tzetzes on April 8, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Please…Don’t let silly little facts get in the way of a perfectly good appeasement speech…
Badbrucskie on April 8, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Good point about France. The French Revolution started in 1789, when George Washington was already President, then there was the Napoleonic Empire, and the current form of government in France is called the Fifth Republic, founded in 1958 by Charles de Gaulle. I have in-laws in France, and I keep reminding them that the United States still has its First Republic (well, maybe the second after Obama).
As for Obama, he’s not qualified to talk Turkey, because he is one.
Steve Z on April 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Ogabe doesn’t need to “take a moment to understand all of these issues”, Ed. He won. Why won’t you accept that he has absolute moral, economic, legal, social authority over every aspect of your life?
SKYFOX on April 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM
KS Rex, good link.
Why is it that Obama critics capitulate in conclusion? PC is a platform on quicksand.
“I believe” is an article of faith. Why apologize FOR the President who does NOT care about me or you or our nation? Obama proves no allegiance to America. It is foolish to place faith in someone so prone to deconstruct our only salvation, our Constitution, remaking our government by negating our Constitutional Government.
By studying what Obama is doing and noting his negative impact, one observes what Obama wants to do by listening and following through with what is heard by his audiences and marking the effect of Obama’s change.
Evidently, by observing public examples, the price of an Ivy League education is a bankrupt mind, blinded to equate with ignorance. Irony.
What Obama is doing is wrong, and his motivations are not founded upon our Constitution or our American heritage that has CONSISTENTLY sacrificed for the likes of everyone, including Mr. Obama. Those with eyes to see, pay attention and quit apologizing for recognizing Obama’s adverse affect as he depletes our Constitutional Rights, our Constitutional Government, the sanctity of our homes, and our global security.
my $.02
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Stupidest President ever.
SuperManGreenLantern on April 8, 2009 at 8:11 AM
Agreed, but this is the tactic of the left, assume the opposition is stupid and they will believe anything you tell em. The best way to accomplish this is by the current education system where you intentionally “dumb down” the population.
Unfortunately, President Obama is a product of that system from K-12 (Punahoe is an expensive private school and because the tuition is so high there is an assumption that the eduction received is equally high – not true). His expensive Ivy League eduction was a breeze for those behind the scenes who where grooming him.
Therefore, do not believe everything you hear from President Obama or his teleprompter which keeps him on message and sounding smart.
MSGTAS on April 8, 2009 at 10:02 AM
“The reformation was preceded by the discovery of America, as if the Almighty graciously meant to open a sanctuary to the persecuted in future years, when home should afford neither friendship nor safety.”
–Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
This is why I bitterly cling to my guns and God.
kirkill on April 8, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Obama does NOT talk turkey; he NEVER gets to the point of explanation, only the pitchfork point of threats.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM
“You get what you pay for.”
Obama did NOT pay for his own education. But that is not an excuse regarding the overall NEGATIVE societal effects from the Ivy League society that promotes their own domination of the globe without regard for thought. Logic is not only expendable, but since it actually requires reflection and comparison, it must be exterminated by PC measures, always under cover of good intentions.
Follow The One and you WILL get what your taxes pay for, your own demise. Just STFU and get out of His Way. You’ve heard the Leftard sage advice to victims; if you’re getting raped, relax and enjoy it. Accept their premise that you get what you deserve. Change What You Believe In.
maverick muse on April 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM
shouldn’t this feature be renamed “the Knowing Casualism of the day?
eh on April 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Nice shot!
mr.blacksheep on April 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Obama talks jive turkey.
Clyde5445 on April 8, 2009 at 10:46 AM
As far as governments go, the US is pretty old. There are not that many countries that have older governments (though it depends on how you define it). Britain can be said to have an older government, though it has evolved significantly in that time, and there are a few other monarchies here or there that are still around.
However, as a Nation (which is a self described people) and as a territory, the US can be said to be relatively young.
Count to 10 on April 8, 2009 at 10:52 AM
That’s an A+ in affirmative action college history.
jukin on April 8, 2009 at 10:56 AM
America’s “civilization” dates back to ancient Greece and the Biblical patriarchs.
See, the problem with educated ignoramuses like sesqui (we’re supposed to be impressed with his multisyllabic screenname) is that they went to impressive colleges and indeed have some brainpower. Unfortunately for them and for us their brains have been filled with years and years of Gramscian indoctrination that presents a “nuanced” view of history that minimizes the contributions of what was formally known as western civilization.
Sesqui and his hero Obama are smart but ignorant. They are so confident of their superiority that they can’t be bothered to check actual facts before the open their mouths.
It doesn’t matter if you can trace American polity to the Magna Carta, the Roman senate, Plato’s Republic or, Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, as long as the Turks have more melanin in their skin and look browner or yellower than Americans with pale skin, folks like sesqui will find a way to think of them as superior to their own culture.
Folks like sesqui cheered when Brazilian president Lula blamed the world’s economic mess on people with blue eyes and white skin at the same time they ignored the fact that in a country that is about 50% of African descent none of Lula’s cabinet ministers are black.
rokemronnie on April 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I’ve never seen a politician talk so much and yet say so little. And I’ve seen a lot of worthless politicians, but I repeat myself
Bevan on April 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Obama is black, not red. Run around here and ask some members of the local Native American Chippewa/Ojibwa tribal areas what they think of Barry. I would not be allowed to post their comments in this blog.
Yoop on April 8, 2009 at 11:06 AM
This is incredibly weak tea.
He put the word “civilization” right in there. Seriously – if a leftie had criticized Bush for saying this, wouldnt you think they were grasping at straws, just trying to fill a daily feature?
orange on April 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM
No.
But then again you pose a hypothetical which would never happen. The lefties dispise American culture, and this statement, made by a leftie, falls right into place.
unclesmrgol on April 8, 2009 at 11:23 AM
the ottoman empire has been called “turkey” or “turkish empire” by its contemporaries. my ancestors were fighting the “turks” and the “turkish sultan” for centuries. nobody suggested that turkey was in any way superior to the american civilization. they are just much older.
now fck off.
sesquipedalian on April 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Well said!
We Americans have just SO much to be ashamed of and to apologize for. Praise allah we now have Dopenchains leading the worldwide retreat from our status as a (gasp) SuperPower!
USA: new banana republic and dropping FAST!
Sweet_Thang on April 8, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Why doesn’t this amateur come back home and actually get on with his job instead of grandstanding on the international stage?
He’s a bad joke. Not sure if he is incompetent or simply too lazy to do the job he was elected to do – that is to run the US and not talk a lot of sweet sounding BS to foreigners.
Ares on April 8, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Ares – because he is still running for election – townhall meetings in Turkey, campaign speeches all over the world…. I firmly believe he does not know how to govern (however, he likes the fact that he is the RULER of the free world!!!). He is in constant campaign mode because he wants job security for at least 8 years…
mkosin on April 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Bush would never say something that could be construed to sound foolish? You’re going to have a tough time convincing anybody of that.
I’m a leftie, and I do not despise American culture. And pointing out the basic fact that the civilization and culture in Turkey is much older than the civilization and culture in the US is not such a horrible thing. It’s just the truth. It’s not even a truth that puts the US in a bad light.
If you think Obama hates America so much, why would he say (from the same link in the original post):
Or you could even look at the answer that the Turkey/civilization quote was pulled from:
It’s not plausible to say that those are the words of an America-hater.
orange on April 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Oh, so you would have preferred for him to blow off the G20. That would have been a good thing?
Sorry, but international relations are a very important part of his job. Perhaps you’d prefer it if he spent a record-setting amount of time on vacation, like his predecessor.
orange on April 8, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Sounds like Obama had the same world geography teacher that he had for the US geography class. Remember, Obama said we have 57 states!!!!!!! Moron.
karenhasfreedom on April 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I am just so DAM*ED tired of seeing/hearing this dufus !
Anyone need any further speculation for the wild ‘massacres’ recently ?? Getting close, here, myself !
lord god Obama.. could you PLEASE just sit your royal butt in the oval office for a few minutes, close the doors, and leave us alone for a few hours ??
How many more years of this ?
ARRGGGHHHH.
pambi on April 8, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I’d rather he did that, yeah. The more he’s on vacation, the less harm he can do.
Bob's Kid on April 8, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Facts just get in the way of dialogue.
Badger40 on April 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM
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