Good news: Obama to geoengineer the Earth’s climate or something
posted at 5:45 pm on April 8, 2009 by Allahpundit
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They’re spinning this as a Hail Mary option in case they can’t regulate global warming away, but it’s really not because they can’t. Developing countries will go on developing no matter how much the British and the American left wring their hands about emissions, in which case if it’s true that industry’s turning the planet into a baked potato, we’ll have to take drastic action to stop it. Enter the Messiah, master of the heavens and earth, and his magic pollution-particle ray. Like Krauthammer says, his ultimate agenda isn’t to warranty your car, it’s to warranty your life. All this is, really, is weatherproofing.
John Holdren told The Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month that the idea of geoengineering the climate is being discussed. One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays. Holdren said such an experimental measure would only be used as a last resort.
“It’s got to be looked at,” he said. “We don’t have the luxury of taking any approach off the table.”
Holdren outlined several “tipping points” involving global warming that could be fast approaching. Once such milestones are reached, such as complete loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic, it increases chances of “really intolerable consequences,” he said.
Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being “in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog.”
I’m looking forward to the inevitable “we need to act now”/”no, we can contain the problem” debate over whether we really have reached a tipping point. It’ll be the Iraq WMD argument all over again, replete with unreliable information, except on a global scale and with even more unintended consequences in the mix. Exit question via Ace: Who’s up for a new Ice Age?
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In case he hasn’t noticed… this was a very cold year. I would welcome some warmth right now.
AbaddonsReign on April 8, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Reminds me of this:
The time left under the rule of Obama: 1382 Days, 20 Hours, 12 Minutes, 42 Seconds.
Time left until we can start to roll back the effects……..undetermined.
JP1986UM on April 8, 2009 at 5:48 PM
And how much will this stupid liberal boondoggle cost my grandchildren?
jimmy2shoes on April 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Welcome to the Ice Age of Obama.
econavenger on April 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Think how…interesting…things will become it’s determined that the earth has an excess population and something needs to be done about it.
President Obowa: Managing to find the most dangerous people for his cabinet, one psycho at a time.
Bishop on April 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Dissatisfied with critics’ assertions that global climate change is not caused by humans, the left sets out to prove, once and for all, that we can too change the climate, dammit.
I wonder what Obama’s evil laugh sounds like.
TexasDan on April 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Someone’s been watching the Matrix and Animatrix WAY too much lately.
Defector01 on April 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
I now really believe, that Obama seriously thinks he IS the messiah. The guy is not well.
jencab on April 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM
And He said, let there be no global warming. and there was no global warming and it was pleasing in His eyes.
I swear this whole thing reminds me of one of those terrible Sci/Fi TV movies.
Terrye on April 8, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Like Steve Urkel.
jimmy2shoes on April 8, 2009 at 5:50 PM
As a capitalist, I am prepared to sell these pollution particles to the government and for a small fee, insert them into the air.
hanzblinx on April 8, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I`m in central NY state and it was snowing today…….Maybe they`re using it right now!
ThePrez on April 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Really, when you think about it, what crippling, economic disaster would be complete without, you know, glaciers?
TexasDan on April 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Wouldn’t that be ironic if shooting pollution particles into the air is what saved the planet?
redshirt on April 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM
You know that they were predicting ice ages in the 70’s for this very reason.
TexasDan on April 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Great timing, considering the fools at Colorado State U’s “hurricane experts” downgraded more “man made hurricane’s” or something.
Being they have been off by 95% for the past 3 years and have cost the Gulf region billions in tourism, due to man made fear (pending Florida Toruism lawsuit) – it’s clear their “models” are like building a 12 inch scaled F22 and claiming to be an engineer…
Odie1941 on April 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Just keep obama speaking, that should fill the air with enough pollution, and its free!
MDWNJ on April 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM
And if Bush had done this, the media would be running the clips of Monty Burns making a giant sunshade to get more energy use out of the people.
Or perhaps sealing Springfield under a dome…
Nope, now it’s a clever and bold idea!
Skywise on April 8, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I like snow. I like ice. I like it cold. Sign me up for Obama’s War Against The Sky.
myrenovations on April 8, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t the resulting nuclear winter cool the planet also should a massive nuke be detonated somewhere?
Is Iran trying to save the world?
redshirt on April 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I suggested something like this might be possible if it was clear the planet was dangerously warming. I based it on volcanic cooling. It’s not clear the earth is warming, but the opposite in fact, so apparently that means the faith-based green movement thinks we should rush ahead with it anyway.
Beagle on April 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Oh come on. Who has a link to the Bush Weather Machine that was all over the internet during Katrina?
lorien1973 on April 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Didn’t Hitler try to do the same thing?
Key West Reader on April 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Whoa Whoa Whoa. You’re telling me that the SUN actually has a role in heating the earth?!
Butters on April 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM
What exactly is a pollution particle? Do they need to be produced in a factory, farmed, scooped off the roads, grown on the sides of labratory hamsters like little tumors, what?
Bishop on April 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I’m lost. Pollution = Good, or Pollution = Bad?
cackcon on April 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Back in the 70’s, there was an effort to convince the world to spread coal dust all over the Arctic ice pack and all across Antarctica to stop the global cooling that was being experienced at the time. At the time, it was established “science,” too.
Now this?
We spent billions, perhaps trillions, over the decades to make sure we didn’t put anything “bad” in the atmosphere…now Obama wants to seed pollution in the upper atmosphere to stop global warming? Has anyone taken a solid look at solar activity over the past decades? That is the root cause of cooling and warming. Too simple for the hyper-educated classes, however.
Go ahead, Obama…screw with Mother Nature.
She doesn’t like meglomaniacs. (Neither do I.)
In the meantime, the Obamatrons will embrace this hairbrained scheme like they have embraced every utterance from The Messiah. In short…we are screwed.
coldwarrior on April 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Great. Not content to run our automakers, banks, Wall Street, and nationalized health care, now he wants to mess with the sky? There’s nowhere to run if he messes that up.
scalleywag on April 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM
I’m sure it would work. In a Hollywood movie.
Using pollution to counter the effects of pollution. What could go wrong?
Guardian on April 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM
It what happens after you eat at taco bell, or white castle.
MDWNJ on April 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM
During the Dust Bowl of the plains – snake oil salesmen would gather townspeople, take money from them, claim they could make it rain – then ran off with their money…
Odie1941 on April 8, 2009 at 5:59 PM
It was in the 40s in DC today. Last time I was there this time of year it was in the 70s. Obama should suck on some ice cubes and just STFU. You’re not God, dude.
JammieWearingFool on April 8, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Punch drunk.
Ask Steve Croft.
Disturb the Universe on April 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Obama is having his people put looney ideas out like this (even though they believe them) to distract from the fact that the economy is going down the toilet faster than we all know and he wants to take it off the front page.
Obama welcomes this and pirates on US ships…any distractions, anything, just don’t talk about the economy.
albill on April 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Can one get a yellow flag for emitting too many pollution particles?
JammieWearingFool on April 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM
And it was 38 in Destin Florida last night…
Odie1941 on April 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Exit question via Ace: Who’s up for a new Ice Age?
Mmmmmm…. Mammoth burgers sure sound good.
ArkCon on April 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM
What is known is that it was the humans who “scorched the sky”, blocking out the sun’s rays
- Matrix
lorien1973 on April 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Barry can’t even figure out basic White House protocol, but he’s all about global greenhouse gas protocol.
EPIC FLOUNDER.
Christien on April 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Never let a manufactured crisis go to waste.
Disturb the Universe on April 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM
It what happens after you eat at taco bell, or white castle.
MDWNJ on April 8, 2009 at 5:58 PM
No wonder they’re trying to legalize all those Mexicans who snuck over the border.
Bishop on April 8, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Can one get a yellow flag for emitting too many pollution particles?
JammieWearingFool on April 8, 2009 at 6:00 PM
No. But if other people around you can hear it or smell it, you’ll get some dirty looks.
Mr. President has been watching The Day After Tomorrow toom any times.
kingsjester on April 8, 2009 at 6:02 PM
I’m confused. I thought the reason he planned to kill the coal industry was because the power plant smoke stacks did exactly that. So now he is going to build government smokestacks or something to replace the power plant ones?
MikeA on April 8, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Yea, I live in VA and here in the valley we had a light snow and the high was 42. I wouldn’t trust a scholar or a scientist to mess with the sky, so I’m certainly not comfortable with the POTUS planning any actions. No matter who was the POTUS.
scalleywag on April 8, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Looks like Bush left his weather-making machine behind.
ThePrez on April 8, 2009 at 6:02 PM
I just can’t wait for the unintended consequences……….
………. and you know there will be.
Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I don’t know…might not be a bad thing…complete with the old Rusted Root sound track, and that proto-squirrel, Skrat?
coldwarrior on April 8, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Obama – “We must destroy the earth in order to save it…”
AUINSC on April 8, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Before we do this, I think everyone involved should be required to read Rings of Ice by Piers Anthony. It begins with a plan to control climate via altered reflectivity in the upper atmosphere and ends with a group of survivors forced to cannibalize one another to survive. Give me Three Mile Island any day.
John on April 8, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Expect legislation regulating the sun’s heat just before the primaries in 2010.
Snowed In on April 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM
That’s already his policy for America.
Disturb the Universe on April 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Oh, great. A weather machine. More tax money down a rat hole. The whole world has gone nuts.
BetseyRoss on April 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Solar Energy Industry businesses dropped 300 points on the DOW today…../
Caper29 on April 8, 2009 at 6:06 PM
THE ONE HAS THE POWER.
ONE-DER POWERS, ACTIVATE!!!!!!
Hawkins1701 on April 8, 2009 at 6:06 PM
You know, of all of the idiocy spewing from the office of the PotUS and Congress, this is actually much more frightening. At least with the moronic departure from history/reality and driving the nation into the ground nose first we have the ability to one day turn things around and rebuild.
When mankind starts messing around with things they know nothing about I really start to fear for the survival of our species. Its like developing super viruses to release into the population to see if we can develop a “cure” for a man-made disease…
Honestly, if this plan were set into motion you guys can call the police and turn me in, because I’m going to go ‘postal’ on these morons before they cause the extinction of life on earth.
What could go wrong, indeed!
Geministorm on April 8, 2009 at 6:06 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA. Thank you for that.
Joe Caps on April 8, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Meh…I’m slowly realizing I left Anthony’s target audience when I left my teens.
Snowed In on April 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Yes, who remembers the last law the Dems passed to save the planet? Ah yes! CFL bulbs are, by law, to replace incandescents…how’s that turning out again?
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/08/2125250&art_pos=1
AUINSC on April 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Yeah…the same one he used to cause hurricane Katrina.
Caper29 on April 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM
If your in a car in the fog speeding for a cliff are brakes really gonna help?
nolapol on April 8, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Reading the above, I have an uneasy feeling that a ban hammer is now hovering over my head…
:(
Geministorm on April 8, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Yes, but he’s an omnipotent light being, so he’s now thinking bigger.
AUINSC on April 8, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Like anybody knows what would happen. I think the law of unintended consequences screams at this idea. Take shelter from Mother Nature try and understand Mother Nature, respect the power of Mother Nature but try to outsmart her at your own peril.
rsl775 on April 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Did he say it wiht the little pinkie on the side of his mouth?
Sir Napsalot on April 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM
I’ve taken care to insulate myself against the cold winter months. You skinny types are screwed.
TheUnrepentantGeek on April 8, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Isn’t this exactly the sort of thing Glenn Beck has been warning us about? Who’s crazy now!
frankj on April 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Heh.
How is Obama going to advocate increased use of solar energy and simultaneously take steps to block the sun?
Shows how far ahead the Left thinks. It’s all about “the now”.
Guardian on April 8, 2009 at 6:13 PM
But I thought Cheney had the keys to the weather machine that steered Katrina to NOLA?
kooly on April 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Saving the planet is the pet rock of our time.
moxie_neanderthal on April 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Two related news stories;
US Scientists have determined that all US citizens must immediately surrender any and all firearms in order to avoid spontaneous discharge which would endanger innocent children. A recall of all ‘faulty’ ammunition and firearms has been ordered by the ATF.
The UN’s Security Council has determined that the Internet is too dangerous and that starting in 2010 all electrical devices will be banned. Energy plants worldwide will be shutdown on a case by case basis over a two year period starting in 2011.
Geministorm on April 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM
And you all laughed at Cobra Commander’s Weather Dominator. Who’s laughing now!
Iblis on April 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Welcome to Pliocene Park.
At least there won’t be any velociraptors.
Bishop on April 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Me, at that reference.
Snowed In on April 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Attacking the sun has got to be the worst idea of all time. I wonder what would would happen with dampened sunlight and warmth? How much oceanic and plant life would die? How much less crops would we harvest? Then again, killing masses of people has always been at the heart of liebralism.
Grafted on April 8, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Does that make Hillary the Baroness? I’ll gouge out my own eyes with an ice pick before I’m forced to see her in a black, skin-tight leather onesey.
TheMightyMonarch on April 8, 2009 at 6:20 PM
They can trigger an eruption of the volcano underneath Yellowstone. That would send enough particulate matter into the air so that global warming won’t be a problem EV-AH.
exhelodrvr on April 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Destro you fool! That was top secret!
Oh man. I totally forgot about that.
lorien1973 on April 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Talk about phantom limbs. Purrrrr.
lorien1973 on April 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM
You know this kind of thing always makes me think of Jurassic Park. Some scientists get a bright idea and the next thing you know monsters are eating people.
One thing Crichton said that I remember, just because science can do it does not mean it should do it.
Terrye on April 8, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Guardian,
“How is Obama going to advocate increased use of solar energy and simultaneously take steps to block the sun? ”
Jeez, do we have to spell everything out for you? The particles they put into the atmosphere will be miniature solar panels, which will then transmit the energy back to earth.
exhelodrvr on April 8, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Seriously, Mr President, dude, chill out.
thebrokenrattle on April 8, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Wasn’t this a COBRA plot in one of the GIJoe movies/series/episodes?
Kai on April 8, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Just another Obama emergency to blow the taxpayer dollars on…
canditaylor68 on April 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM
I say why not try it. It’s not like there’s even the remotest chance of unintended consequences.
/sarcastic disbelief.
Stephen Macklin on April 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Seems that all “Dear Leader” types in the end delude themselves into thinking they have the power of a deity.
We can’t make the Earth cool any more than we can make it heat.
wildcat84 on April 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Obama’s own ever-expanding ego will soon be large enough to block the sun and protect us from global warming.
Disturb the Universe on April 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Well, they do have a point, sorta. If something were to happen that killed all the liberals, I think the world would be a much better and less crazy place.
MikeA on April 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
I think I figured out what is behind this diabolical plan…….
………. Rham Emanual starring as Dr. Strangeglove.
Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM
But I thought Obama simply exuded coolness!
Snowed In on April 8, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Do people remember, in the late 70s the ice age was the scam being pushed by the very same Hansen and friends. Then the idea was floated to cover the ice at the poles and Greenland with carbon black from old ground up tires. If you think about it today, it seems a little stupid, about as stupid as this idea is.
We just got done clearing the air of particulates, and now we have to put them back? The new diesel regs come to mind, with their requirement for particulate traps — just the latest.
tarpon on April 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Anyone rembmber reading this from back in 2006?
MikeA on April 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Well, at least we know now why he refuses to release his crappy college transcripts.
The most Affirmative Action figure EVER!
TexasJew on April 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Correct. Based on this reasoning, all those environmental regulations enacted to reduce air pollution might just be the real cause of global warming.
MikeA on April 8, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Being a resident of the Mojave desert an Ice Age would be just fine. The last Ice Age had Chicago buried under a mile of ice. How appropriate.
Mojave Mark on April 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Well Mike Steele sure as hell ain’t Roadblock.
It’s sad for it to take a President Obama for the world to recognize what visionaries Destro and Cobra Commander really were.
Iblis on April 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM
HAVEN’T THEY SEEN HIGHLANDER 2!
Has anyone seen Highlander 2? I sure hope not, that was one crappy movie. BUT HAVEN’T THEY?
29Victor on April 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Of course we can’t, and neither can Obama or his “science” minions. But you can bet your buns and taters the attempt will be really expensive!
Another way to pick our pockets with yet another boondoggle. I can’t take much more “global warming.” This time two years ago I was planting tomatoes. Today it snowed in CT.!
marybel on April 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Does Al Gore approve this plan? This is totally absurd.
Dire Straits on April 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Oops hit enter too soon
Let’s not forget CC and Destro also tried to solve the Energy Crisis with the Pyramid of Darkness. Pretty similar to how team Barry wants to do it.
Iblis on April 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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