Video: Psychotically angry military veterans and the academics who must tolerate them
posted at 8:28 pm on April 7, 2009 by Allahpundit
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A special treat from Penn State’s instructional series on how to cope with “Worrisome Student Behaviors.” It seems our heroine’s been saddled with one of those ill-educated military types and, try as she might to reason with him, his bestial rage keeps getting in the way. Whatever is she to do? Watch and learn, my friends, in case you too are confronted by one of these menacing ne’er-do-wells.
Incidentally, this comes from the PSU College Republicans’ YouTube page. Why not just watch it at the PSU link up top? Funny thing: There are four videos in the series but this one, uniquely among them, doesn’t play. It appears to have been disabled for some reason. I wonder why.
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How did Sarah Jessica Parker get that hole in her forehead?
carbon_footprint on April 7, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Thank you ALLAHPUNDIT.
I dont know if “treat” is the word that I would use to describe this.
canditaylor68 on April 7, 2009 at 8:36 PM
They had to drill a hole in her head to let the sap run out.
FreeThinkerNYC on April 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM
gotta watch out for those military types. The rappers and the skinheads on campus are total wusses compared to the ROTC guys. Never turn your back on’em!
manofaiki on April 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM
The acting is phenomenal. I haven’t seen such moving dialogue since David Mamet’s Glen Glengarry Ross.
The tension that builds crescendos into an explosion of humanity when Matthew confronts SJP about his C+ grade on the paper he was made to write over. Kudos.
carbon_footprint on April 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM
as a veteran with a masters nothing creates “worrisome” behavior in me like the turning of veterans into damaged victim/slash nitwits.
rob verdi on April 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM
That’s a little patronizing.
AbaddonsReign on April 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM
She sure was snotty to him.
OneGyT on April 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM
I like the little youtube comment about what would have been the outrage if the guy had said, “The black kid,” or, “Oh, the gay guy.” Helps put it into a context of how a typical liberal would get all holier-than-thou almost immediately.
JoelD on April 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Speaking as a veteran, this video has me so outrageously & furiously full of furious outrage that I can barely control my urge to yawn.
OhioCoastie on April 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM
by the way that was horrifying and stupid rolled into one.
rob verdi on April 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Oh no! Not more of those mean, crazy, right-wing’ing veterans! Just smile and nod… smile and nod…
Weebork on April 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM
This goes even beyond veteran vs. professor. He makes a mention of how she feels about the war. It seems to be a liberal, er progressive, professor being bullied and scared by one of those evil pro-war types.
amerpundit on April 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Thank God we didn’t have any of those psycho WWII vets go to college where they would have gotten all argumentative and stuff.
And just think what might have happened if any of them became president with their finger on The Button !!!
BowHuntingTexas on April 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM
His grammar seems fine.
Rusty Shackleford on April 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Hows it END? Does he get her fired? Why the hell do they do these cliff hangers?
Inzax on April 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM
I’m a 24-year veteran and earned my Bachelor’s Degree (Summa Cum Laude) just two years ago. Some of the sharpest and smartest individuals I’ve ever met were in the U.S. Navy and U.S Military. Some of the most ignorant and stupidest people I’ve ever encountered didn’t have any military experience.
This is terribly stereotypical. And it pisses me off no end!
Corky on April 7, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Beware angry white dudes!
SouthernGent on April 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Totally.
mikeyboss on April 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM
‘He seemed to get really upset when I called him a robotic baby killer, and seemed especially peeved at my Che shirt. I mean really, you expect these people to be kind of weird to begin with…but I mean jeeze…I almost had to call my therapist…and stuff…’
BigWyo on April 7, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Wow.
We’ve come a long way from this.
aquaviva on April 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I’m sure the frustrated and dangerous veteran returns with an ‘assault rifle’ and “persuades” the professor to change his C+ to a B. Inspired by Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck, of course.
/Charles Blow
carbon_footprint on April 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM
You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. RAAAAWWWWW!!!!
Meric1837 on April 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Yeah, that’s about the attitude I expect from academia towards soldiers these days.
Sickening, and contemptuous that they display in this light those who make their positions and freedom to pursue their careers possible.
I was lucky. I actually had a number of very good teachers in my experience at the University of Wisconsin, along with my share of the narcissistic, disinterested, self-absorbed bunch. I had two political science classes. The advanced class I got an A in. The fundamental class, a D. Take a guess why a D was given.
MadisonConservative on April 7, 2009 at 8:53 PM
You know it was just a matter of time…………
Seven Percent Solution on April 7, 2009 at 8:53 PM
It ends when Barack Obama rides in on a fluffy white cloud trailed by magical skittle-pooping unicorns, waves his hand with a beatific smile upon his face, and miraculously changes the Evil Frustrated Veteran into a gentle and kind Acorn community organizer, thus saving the day. All hail Obama.
TheQuestion on April 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Speechless.
I mean … the stupidity of these people is just breathtaking.
And the thing is – they don’t know what dorks they look like!
HondaV65 on April 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM
A clash of political ideology?
carbon_footprint on April 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM
The dialogue at 4:15 – 4:20 is instructive. The “prof” states “My personal beliefs have nothing to do with the way that I treat you.”
Yea right! And if you believe that.. I’ve got some swamp land for sail you might be interested in purchasing.
journeyman on April 7, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Where’s the pr0n?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 7, 2009 at 8:57 PM
If she’s worried now, wait til she sees his “War Face”.
Guardian on April 7, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Ding ding ding ding ding Johnny, tell him what he’s won!
You’ve won a lifetime supply of Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco treat!
MadisonConservative on April 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM
battling victims!
what a dilemma:
whose more of a victim – the teacher or the vet!?!?! the vet – is he a voctimne of the war or the teacher? the teacher – is she a victim if th vet or of liberaliam?
bottom-line: grading should be and can always be objective.
and current events should have no place in most college classes.
then issues like the one depicted in this video wouldn’t ever happen.
reliapundit on April 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Penn State or Sean Penn State? you decide…
Kaptain Amerika on April 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Matthew rules. How’s he the bad guy here?
Jim on April 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM
I have several friends who are instructors in big colleges like Penn State, and most that have been teaching for awhile have a story like this, and a lot of them unfortunately involve vets (although most involve minority students).
I bet a million bucks the video was based on something that actually happened. And as soon as people complained, the video was pulled- why? Because the point wasn’t to insult vets, it was to illustrate dangerous behavior.
Either that, or Penn State, that bastion of liberalism, hates the military. Yes, that must be it.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM
this is called stereotypical.
rob verdi on April 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM
*Now Now, we must not question the judgement of our betters. They toil away in academia trying to tow society up the hill of progress. They can’t help it if we are just so regressive and irrational in our behaviours and world view.*
/sarc
silverfox on April 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Yeah, look at all those problem kids coming out of those military academies…
right2bright on April 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Speakup on April 7, 2009 at 9:02 PM
She can barely hold herself together. Probably trauma left over from the time that Muslim scooped the Hindu caste dot right off her forehead.
BL@KBIRD on April 7, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Leftards cannot tolerate disagreement.
It appears the UK is totally ball-less. They are up in arms about a cop pushing a guy at the G20 demonstrations. The guy fell, got up, and kept walking and later collapsed and died. they think the police officer shd be charged with manslaughter and the video of the incident [squeal!] is hideous. UK= A nation of pussies.
Blake on April 7, 2009 at 9:02 PM
I added the Fox Video so much for a New Era In American Race Relations.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/04/neil-cavuto-al-sharpton-acorn-call-for.html
Al Sharpton and Acorn call for Sheriff Joe Arpaio to resign
Dr Evil on April 7, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Liberals are the worst, most self-entitled grade grubbers. They line up at the prof’s door if they get an A- in their Theories of Race, Gender, and Quilting courses.
RedRedRice on April 7, 2009 at 9:02 PM
In the deleted scenes: the next day, he walks into class with her ears hanging around his neck.
Gymkata on April 7, 2009 at 9:03 PM
They usually graduate with degrees and don’t need to take undergraduate classes at Penn State, which is about a thousand times lousier a school than any of the Academies.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Yep. Harvard Student Takes On Barney Frank Over Economy
The student is a conservative I believe.
canditaylor68 on April 7, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Dude, I love that stuff! Woo hoo
carbon_footprint on April 7, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Funny I wasn’t going to post this, because it sounded such a foolish post…but you paved the way.
I have friends that also teach, and their problems is with the black students, and the students who belong to the militant liberal groups.
They feel like any negative comment is toward them personally. They can work around the militant libs, but the blacks, if they decide to use the “bigot card”, is by far the most difficult…their answer, just pass them through. Because even with tenure, the one thing that gets you fired is the “race card”.
right2bright on April 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Good Lord, these liberal nitwits sure do like to bitterly cling to their stereotypes.
coldwarrior on April 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM
She was totally robbing him because he’s a vet. So obvious. I hope he get’s her fired.
ronsfi on April 7, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Ha Ha I love it. Veterans as victims terrorizing teachers. This is so low class it can win an award. I wish they had the sequel posted. I want to see what happens when the vet comes to class with a paper written by the administrator and gets the same grade at which time the administrator fires the teacher..
The problem with this is the antiwar teacher is allowed in the classroom in the first place. That hole in her head is obviously a requirement for the job. This veteran didn’t even have long hair and a scraggly beard. His eyes weren’t glazed over from drugs and booze. He didn’t carry a machete. He wasn’t even wearing cammi’s. Where is the realism? I say this is fake. There is no news here, let’s move along.
kanda on April 7, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Are there safe zones for Republican students
amid the sea of Liberal Obama supporters,that
infest the campus!!
canopfor on April 7, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Someone sure screwed up her nose job!
DannoJyd on April 7, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Heh!
+1000
Conservative_SAHM on April 7, 2009 at 9:09 PM
So, when he asks her “Isn’t it your job to be teaching me this,” and she then says she wants to have a reasonable discussion, how was that question unreasonable?
Sir Corky on April 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM
I don’t think it is particularly good for society as a whole that academia is so far left wing and so doctrinaire.
Have we really reached the point were a significant number of college professor can’t even understand that if they grading people on ideology that their victims are not going to be particularly happy about it?
The leftists that pulled the same sort of crap on me in the long ago knew they were screwing with me and in fact seemed to enjoy it.
Power and leftism are really a bad combination. Powerless leftists are at least amusing.
18-1 on April 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM
With only a bit of prep work (aka brainstorming around a mini-keg), I see Worrisome Professorial Behaviors instructional series garnering 10 million views per video.
Let the parodies begin!
Dusty on April 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM
To think, someone wrote a check for several thousand dollars to produce that puke of a short. Who are these people and how can I sell more crap to them?
I come here for the info, but the laughs are what keeps me here. Funny!
javamartini on April 7, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Entirely apart from the grotesque stereotyping of veterans, it’s a little shocking to think that the female faculty of a university in this day and age would accept such an unflattering caricature of a female academic.
In the final climatic scene, I kept expecting some heroic and appropriately enlightened metrosexual to come to the helpless female professor’s rescue.
Infidoll on April 7, 2009 at 9:12 PM
“My personal beliefs about the war have nothing to do with the way I treat you.”
Yeah, I can remember hearing that 40 years ago at San Diego State. Only there was no evasion. “If you’re not a ‘third worlder’, don’t bother coming to class anymore”.
GarandFan on April 7, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Well, I think a lot of the black students think that the teachers are being racist toward them when the teachers don’t give them an automatic pass. And why not? A lot of them get an automatic pass because the teachers are terrified of the accusation of racism. Happens pretty often.
The vets, unfortunately, tend to assume the teachers are super liberals, so they write super right wing papers, even if it doesn’t have anything to do with the subject. And when their papers aren’t good, they say, “She doesn’t like me because of my views,” and they don’t even try to fix their papers. They also tend to get aggressive, unfortunately.
By and large, most professors like the vets and conservatives because they tend to facilitate arguments. A room full of liberals doesn’t have a lot to talk about. I’ve met my share of liberal jerks that “hate everything military,” but there are a lot fewer of them than you think. This isn’t the 1960s-1970s – there are plenty of conservative professors out there.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Why does this video exist? Was there any purpose to it?
Buford on April 7, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Generally, by the time you’ve reached college, your professors aren’t going to teach you basic grammar or how to write a paper. You should have learned that already.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM
I went through college and few people besides other veterans knew that I was a veteran. If anyone had reason to be afraid, it was me; the campus liberal groups weren’t too fond your average military type.
Bishop on April 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Yeah, but that would entail courage from the metrosexual and the probability that the hair would get mussed up.
carbon_footprint on April 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Maybe she’s a Muslim; they get funny indentations on their foreheads from hitting the ground so often in prayer.
Disturb the Universe on April 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Despicable video, but somehow I couldn’t stop laughing. Especially when the actor playing the “deranged veteran” started talking in that nerdy accent.
joe_doufu on April 7, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Harvard Student takes on Barney Frank over economy
canditaylor68 on April 7,2009 at 9:04PM.
canditaylor68: That was beautiful!I notice that Barney is
lost without his gavel!! Hehe:)
canopfor on April 7, 2009 at 9:17 PM
She acted intolerant and prejudicial to me.
Most of these women are pro abortion..They have a distinct power advantage over the unborn.
Ayers would be more of a success profile in todays liberal schools.
seven on April 7, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Maybe she’s a Muslim; they get funny indentations on their foreheads from hitting the ground so often in prayer.
Disturb the Universe on April 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Or from rubber bullets fired by Israeli riot police. Not the smartest idea to attack tanks with rocks and bottles.
Bishop on April 7, 2009 at 9:19 PM
So what if it was based on a true event? What if this actually happened, and they based the video on that (instead of writing the video on how to handle an aggressive student and deciding they wanted to stick it to military vets, for fun)?
Would it be OK to have the video then?
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Starts off with him doing tai chi in his gotchies in a dorm room to The Doors’ The End.
Caper29 on April 7, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Yup, check out Al-Zawahiri next time he does a video, his is huge. The prayer mat scar is a badge of honor. Well, in this twit’s classroom it is…
Maquis on April 7, 2009 at 9:24 PM
As a matter of fact she does, they all do. I would say this whole video is slanted toward one point of view, it leans a lot to the left. It says that this was put by PSU College Republicans, sounds like RINOs to me. “Ivy League and RINO is no way to go through life son.”
Tommy_G on April 7, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Well, maybe if she showed a little leg or perhaps some cleavage, perhaps things would go a little better for her.
Wyznowski on April 7, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Here’s another one to add to the very long list of reasons entitled ‘Why I will never give a dime to my Alma Mater – Penn State’.
drmanyee on April 7, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Unfortunately, that’s not always true. Many colleges have to have remedial English and math clasess. Or they have math tutoring and “Writing Centers’ where students get help with work. A generation ago, this wasn’t needed.
From Penn State website. English 15 is Freshmen Comp.
Wethal on April 7, 2009 at 9:31 PM
well, that was quite a dramatization.
here’s what we might say really happened, according to loyola professor, june terpestra scorza, in an article she wrote titled, “Can We Really Support These Troops?”
eh on April 7, 2009 at 9:32 PM
HA !!!
BowHuntingTexas on April 7, 2009 at 9:33 PM
That really struck me: They teach grammar in COLLEGE?
Now THIS makes a lot more sense.
Did the video actually show any techniques for dealing with a disgruntled veteran trying to strangle the helpless professor? (Assuming you don’t count the sage advice of: “Uh, I guess if he tries to kill you, you should run away.”)
Instead, at the end, the potential professor-murderer storms off to file a complaint about her.
And the video offers a perfect solution to THAT problem: Beat him to the punch, and get on record accusing him of being a homocidal maniac early. That way, you can flunk him without having to defend your wildly ideological grading practices to anyone.
logis on April 7, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Schools have writing centers because you’re expected to be able to write a paper by the time you hit college. Not everyone can. For some people, English isn’t a first language, or they were admitted because of AA (in a toilet like PSU, this is particularly a problem, because you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel there).
Some kids are there because of math or engineering and are very bright in those things, but still need help writing papers.
But the point is, you’re expected to turn in something with solid grammar by the time you’re a freshman in college. If you can’t, you have to go to the writing center.
You know, like the lady in the video said?
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Ok, I’ll bite….
Whether the story is based on a real event with a real veteran student is irrelevant.
Judging by the original site, the purpose of the vid is supposed to be to how to address a student who is unhappy about a grade and possibly being agressive about it.
Whether the agressive student is white, black, male, female, vet or not shouldn’t even come into it.
They could have easily portrayed the issue they’re trying to address without ever going there about the student being a vet…. they chose not to…..
dead-duck on April 7, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Sure. See my post above. You don’t think they’re teaching grammar in public schools do you? Or teaching them how to add, subtract, multiply or divide (without a calculator)? Ask anyone under 40 if they can diagram a sentence. Tell you the difference between active and passive voice. How to do long division.
Wethal on April 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM
I imagine the conversation went something like this:
Marine: We fought Islamists over there so we would not have to here.
CLP (crazy leftist professor): You are doing it for money and you don’t care if people die!
Marine: Yeah lady, sure. We just are just killing Iraqis for the heck of it, because the Islamists would be knitting them sweaters if we were cut and ran.
CLP: You admit it!!!!
Marine: In fact this one Islamist was just trying to give an RPG demonstration to a bus of school kids when I was so cruel as to shoot him.
CLP: You Christianists just can’t stand Role Playing Games…can you!!!
18-1 on April 7, 2009 at 9:43 PM
That’s what I thought.
I agree.
OK, so you’d like them to say, “I am mad at you. I cannot tell you why. I have a serious problem. YOU’LL SEE!”
Of course, they might be picking something that has happened and is likely to happen again, to help young graduate students, most of whom are teaching a class for the first time, deal with a very specific scenario.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:43 PM
LOL…..STG that was the first thing that popped into my head.
This video is so ripe for parody.
The Ugly American on April 7, 2009 at 9:43 PM
God, seriously, if it were a black student, and Al Sharpton got all outraged, you would (correctly) call him an ultra PC douche.
Which is exactly what you all are.
If it were an antimilitary video, I’d agree. But it’s pretty obvious that the military thing is to explain why the student is angry. Like I said, it’s a pretty common scenario.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Well at least they chose to not play stereotypes, right? I mean, liberal instructors are so above all that, aren’t they?
/stupid f*cktards
Wanderlust on April 7, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Hey Kettle. Pot just got called. It’s for you.
Proud Rino on April 7, 2009 at 9:49 PM
When I went to college, you took entrance tests in that crap. I remember making fun of dumb asses when I found out they had to take “remedial trigonometry.” But I don’t remember anybody who flunked reading and writing.
But if that’s true, then the video makes even less sense. If I ended up teaching a college level class to illiterates, I would WANT one of them to riddle me with machine gun fire.
logis on April 7, 2009 at 9:51 PM
If you’re expected to know it, then there is no need for a writing center. If there is a writing center, then you’re not expected to know it.
Penn State’s main campus is harder to get into than the satellite branches. Penn State Abington lets in students with a 2.5 GPA from Philly public schools. A mammal who walks upright can get that in some Philly public schools.
The truly unprepared students are the athletes. That’s where the money is. They turn in great papers, I’m told by professor friends, because the athletic departments have “tutors” who help them “revise” their papers. But then when there is an in-class, closed-book exam, the writing is barely literate.
Wethal on April 7, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Goodness what a horrible teacher.
At the VERY least she should have offered to have someone else grade a copy of his paper just to check (even confirm to herself) that the grade was in fact fair.
darcee on April 7, 2009 at 9:52 PM
The sad thing is, this is how liberals really see it happening.
- The Cat
MirCat on April 7, 2009 at 9:53 PM
From Penn State’s “instructional” video:
Student: “You’ve made it very clear in your class how you feel about the war and you’re taking it out on me.”
Professor: “My personal beliefs have nothing to do with the way I treat you. I think you need to relax and we need to discuss this, or I could give you the number of someone to talk with if you feel like you want to get some help.”
In the video, there is no criticism or questioning about a professor using her classroom to push her “personal” (i.e. political) beliefs. There is not even any question as to whether her political beliefs are contributing to her low grading and fear of a student who holds conflicting political beliefs.
This is a liberal indoctrination video that supports the view that conservatives are dangerous, mentally ill, or both.
Your tax dollars at work.
Loxodonta on April 7, 2009 at 9:53 PM
They didn’t need to give a reason for the student to be upset with the teacher — sometimes there isn’t one.
All they need to get across was that it was a subjectively graded course (i.e. it was a paper, not a math problem) and the student was dissatisfied with how he was being graded.
Why he felt the teacher was being unfair to him isn’t really important. By adding that in, they open the door to stereotyping students and singling out one group. For rhat reason, they should have erred on the side of caution and made it as generic as possible.
For what it’s worth, when I was teaching I had one student that was p-o’d about his grade and harassed me a bit, he never gave me a reason (other than that he thought I was stupid and the worst teacher evah!)
dead-duck on April 7, 2009 at 9:54 PM
If someone ever has the chance to ask Barney Frank that question again…………
………. have them watch this first.
Seven Percent Solution on April 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM
And she knew she could accomplish this goal with the power of the grade, and any challenges could then be interpreted as threats of impending violence for which she would demonize the individual.
These are sick sick people, and they believe they own your children, and if you don’t anticipate this and teach your kids well, they will.
Maquis on April 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM
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