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Rasmussen’s non-apology … non-apology

posted at 9:32 am on April 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Rumor had it that Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen would apologize to the Muslim world for the publication of cartoons of Mohammed in Danish newspapers.  Would he actually apologize for free speech after having himself defended the newspapers’ right to free speech?  In the end, not explicitly:

“I respect Islam as one of the world’s major religions as well as its religious symbols,” Rasmussen said during a panel discussion at an Istanbul conference aimed at building bridges between the Muslim world and the West…

…”I was deeply distressed that the cartoons were seen by many Muslims as an attempt by Denmark to mark and insult or behave disrespectively toward Islam or the Prophet Mohammad. Nothing could be further from my mind,” Rasmussen said…

…”During my tenure as the secretary general of NATO I will pay close attention to the religious and cultural sensibilities of the different communities that populate our increasingly pluralistic and globalized world,” Rasmussen said.

The boss isn’t pleased:

There is a reason we call Muslim mau-mau-ers the Religion of Perpetual Outrage. They will never give up until you give in. Three years after the Mohammed Cartoon conflagration, the grievance-mongers are still trying to extract contrition out of the Danes and others who stood up for the West and for free speech.

Unfortunately, the ROPO bullies squeezed conciliatory remarks from Former Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen. He didn’t say the exact words “I’m sorry,” but he might as well have tattooed it on his forehead … How about telling the thugs to start paying attention to the sensibilities of civilized people who don’t wage riots, murder people, and issue death threats over cartoons?

Michael van der Galien, who has covered this story well over the weekend, is equally displeased:

My take: this is as close as one can come to apologizing save for downright asking for forgiveness. It’s what you could call a “political apology.”

Rasmussen should have stuck to his guns. He has nothing to apologize nor to ’sympathize’ for. The cartoons were printed by a newspaper, not by his government. It is sad that many felt insulted by them, but it is even sadder that mobs in Indonesia and Arab countries took the streets, boycotted Danish products, and attacked its embassies.

It was not an open, outright apology, but it is hard if not impossible to interpret it differently than a political one.

To me, it looks like just enough to allow everyone to save face.  The Turks would have faced a lot of pressure to reject NATO from its own Muslim allies had they allowed a Dane to take command without addressing the issue in some manner.  Rasmussen never apologized, not even the standard Beltway non-apology apology — the “I’m sorry you were offended” construct.  Instead, he declared himself “deeply distressed” that Muslims misinterpreted the cartoons, which hardly counts as an apology for newspapers printing them.  He only went so far as to say that Danes don’t hate Muslims and that he will consider religious sensibilities in his job.  That’s as practically significant as a company in the US putting “An Equal Opportunity Employer” at the bottom of their job applications.

I’m inclined to give Rasmussen a pass on this. It looks like he found the bare minimum that would satisfy the Turks and keep the government from having to deal with its radical Islamist faction and gave it to them.

Update: Michael’s updated his post to rebut mine; be sure to read it again.  He e-mailed me with an even better question:

Something nobody mentioned yet: if he said this years ago he would have saved his countrys businesses billions. Instead, he acted tough. Why? Domestic politics? Reelection?

Not a bad point there.


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FINALLY, for Pete’s sake! Too bad so many here turned on Denmark so easily. Real nice.

Renwaa on April 6, 2009 at 9:37 AM

It was never about those silly cartoons, it was about a Kurdish TV station in Denmark that Erdogan claimed was also supporting Kurdish terrorists in Turkey:

In turn, Erdogan did not simply shoot down Rasmussen’s candidacy because the latter declined to intervene against the publication in a Danish newspaper of cruel caricatures of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad.

Rather, a key issue for Erdogan was that Denmark has hosted Roj-TV, a Kurdish-language station that Turkey maintains supports the separatist Kurdish Worker’s Party (PKK) that has attacked Turkish troops and other targets in eastern Anatolia, and which is widely designated as a terrorist organization.

starfleet_dude on April 6, 2009 at 9:38 AM

I’d only give him a pass if he ended with “… now what about an apology for the Armenian genocide perpetrated by the Turks?”

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM

If it wasn’t about the cartoons , why did he mention them?

And i think he was to apologetic. Islam has got a humanitarian problem, and they shouldn never get to play the victim.

the_nile on April 6, 2009 at 9:42 AM

I’d only give him a pass if he ended with “… now what about an apology for the Armenian genocide perpetrated by the Turks?”

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM

You know , it’s only the west that should say sorry for upholding civilization.The barbarians trying to destroy it is just victims.

the_nile on April 6, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Maybe Obama can issue an apology for America’s arrogance in “Denmarkish”.

Doughboy on April 6, 2009 at 9:45 AM

It’s in his blood to apologize. Rasmussen governs by the polls.

WashJeff on April 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Hey, the man canceled a meeting with Obama! Could he really betray us the way he was accused of after that? Hehe

http://www.berlingske.dk/article/20090404/danmark/90404062/

Renwaa on April 6, 2009 at 9:47 AM

The Turks would have faced a lot of pressure to reject NATO from its own Muslim allies had they allowed a Dane to take command without addressing the issue in some manner.

With “allies” like that … reacting to cartoons by private concerns … that is just downright INSANE.

And the PM bent over backwards to appease the primitives.

progressoverpeace on April 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Why did he have to say anything? I’ll agree that its not an out and out apology, but why should anyone even say they’re distressed that they got upset over them? I understand there are political things to consider, but good grief. Were any of them distressed that we may have misinterpreted the Islamofascists murder of 3000 Americans? Funny we might doubt that whole “religion of peace’ thing after that…

changer1701 on April 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Said apology was not enough to earn him status of Honorary Obamacrat. Nice try, but he can’t compete with our Apologist-in-chief.

RandyChandler on April 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Hey, let’s give it time to percolate through the ROP. Maybe they will lay down their arms and take Rodney Kings’ advice and “just get along”.

/sarc

BobMbx on April 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Why did he have to say anything? I’ll agree that its not an out and out apology, but why should anyone even say they’re distressed that they got upset over them? I understand there are political things to consider, but good grief. Were any of them distressed that we may have misinterpreted the Islamofascists murder of 3000 Americans? Funny we might doubt that whole “religion of peace’ thing after that…

changer1701 on April 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM

He should have told them “Freedom of expression is fundamental to westerns freedom and civilization , you have to respect that.”

the_nile on April 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I thought the cartoons were great. I’m sorry they were printed. I’m glad.

bluelightbrigade on April 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Oh, wait.

Will this be one of those “I’m sorry if that cartoon offended you” apologies?

misslizzi on April 5, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Yikes, I said that in this thread yesterday.

I guess if a post enough, one or two of them will be spot-on.

misslizzi on April 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I thought the cartoons were great. I’m notsorry they were printed. I’m glad.

bluelightbrigade on April 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

FIFMS

bluelightbrigade on April 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Those darn muslims need to get a sense of humor. ahem I thought the cartoons were funny.

becki51758 on April 6, 2009 at 9:57 AM

He should have told them “Freedom of expression is fundamental to westerns freedom and civilization , you have to respect that.”

the_nile on April 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Exactly.

progressoverpeace on April 6, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Rasmussen should have said “thank you” for rioting; you helped the European economy by torching so many buses in your own country that you had to buy more from us.

Bishop on April 6, 2009 at 9:59 AM

It is only an acceptable apology if given in the native tongue of Islam…Islamish.

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Bishop hows that trebuchet going

blatantblue on April 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

blatantblue & bishop: i heard of someone stockpiling bourbon in anticipation of the apocalypse. when the time comes, i’m going back to smoking & drinking.

kelley in virginia on April 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Bishop hows that trebuchet going

blatantblue on April 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Oh man! A trebuchet? We built one for pumpkin launching! Good luck let us know how it is going on that? Have you ever tried a potato cannon? I heard they are supposedly illegal, but cant find any laws stating that…

catlady on April 6, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Bishop hows that trebuchet going
blatantblue on April 6, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Finished. In fact just yesterday I loaded up some guy who wanted me to sign a Pro-Obama petition and launched him into the side of a barn.

Bishop on April 6, 2009 at 10:13 AM

blatantblue & bishop: i heard of someone stockpiling bourbon in anticipation of the apocalypse. when the time comes, i’m going back to smoking & drinking.

kelley in virginia on April 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM

When the apocalypse comes, I’ll be down at the beach with a handful of Foster’s oil cans, a bag of lime Tostitos, an assault rifle, and my iPhone.

Oh and maybe my dog if he’s alive

blatantblue on April 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM

I got yer pumpkin artillery right here, dude… :-)

starfleet_dude on April 6, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Maybe Obama can issue an apology for America’s arrogance in “Denmarkish”.

Doughboy on April 6, 2009 at 9:45 AM

As long as the Danes are playing this political-correctness game of “Allah appeasement”, why doesn’t Obama just visit Osama’s cave and ask him to come out and play too? After all, it was America’s arrogance that caused this muslim extremist to murder thousands on American soil. Right?

/

Rovin on April 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM

blatantblue –

I’ll be sitting on my back porch, sippin margaritas using my shotgun, and if I can, I’ll text you updates….

catlady on April 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Bishop,

I want those trebuchet blueprints! Anything sturdy enough to launch an Obambi – ite is what I want to build next.

catlady on April 6, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I want those trebuchet blueprints! Anything sturdy enough to launch an Obambi – ite is what I want to build next.
catlady on April 6, 2009 at 10:24 AM

The trick is to drain all the shiit out of them before launch, once done they only weigh about twenty pounds.

Still, libs make an awful racket during the firing phase, no matter how often you tell them to just relax and enjoy the ride.

Bishop on April 6, 2009 at 10:28 AM

catlady on April 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Lemme know

blatantblue on April 6, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Maybe Obama can issue an apology for America’s arrogance in “Denmarkish”.

Doughboy on April 6, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Maybe Niederdeutsch oder plattdeutsch oder Hochdeutsche Dialekte oder Oberdeutsch oder Mitteldeutsch oder…..

Johan Klaus on April 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM

He didn’t acknowledge that the Danes did anything wrong, he didn’t say he respected Islam’s tenets, and he said he’d pay attention to different people’s sensibilities during his tenure. Big whoop!

What was detrimentally conciliatory about that ‘apology’ – he said nothing of substance?! What are MM and Michael van der Galien upset about anyways? Oh, I see, they don’t like that he wasn’t as harsh as they wanted him to be!

What I gather is that they doesn’t understand diplomacy very well.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

oops don’t instead of doesn’t

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Maybe he was told to tone down his apology so that he would not upstage the one delivered by an Arab backed imposter.

BL@KBIRD on April 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM

…”I was deeply distressed that the cartoons were seen by many Muslims as an attempt by Denmark to mark and insult or behave disrespectively toward Islam or the Prophet Mohammad.”

I was deeply distressed that a bunch of Islamofascists who insist on living in Denmark but who refuse to respect Denmark’s values, used some harmless political cartoons as an excuse to incite murderous violence among their dimwitted followers.

FIFH

AZCoyote on April 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Big whoop!

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Yes, it was. The language of diplomacy is different from ordinary speech.

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM

What I gather is that they doesn’t understand diplomacy very well.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

No, you’re the one that is clueless.

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM

It was as artfully worded as such a Kabuki Theater statement needed to be. He didn’t acknowledge any wrong, only recognized that the grievance mongers were mongering
their grievances; and that they would probably continue to monger their petty grievances.

He didn’t promise to do anything about trumped-up complaints. It’s probably the best that could be expected if we really want Turkey as part the alliance … for whatever that’s worth.

cruadin on April 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM

The turks want to join NATO more than we want the turks to join. Screw them. They need to act like a modern day state and not like a bunch of islamo-nuts.

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM

I wish the world leaders would make a clear distinction between DRAWINGS and MURDER. It seems the Muslim world equates the two as equal crimes against humanity, which is of course ridiculous.

If Muslims want to live in the West, while in the West, they should be forced to show tolerence for the deeply held convictions of the West, such as Freedom of Speech.

If the West has to apologize for speaking their minds inside their own countries. Then I demand an apology for Burkas and veils inside Muslim countries. Those are HIGHLY HIGHLY Blasphemous! I want an apology and Muslims to desist immediately! They treat women as sinful because of the lust of Muslim men! Blasphamy!

It is certainly a crime against God, who created women as well as men in His image! Holding women responsible for the lust of men is Blasphamous!

petunia on April 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

They went Shootin’ with Rasmussen — and won.

That said, he has nothing to do with freedom of speech in Denmark. The cartoons are still out there (someone posted a link to a site selling autographed art prints of Mohammad the Bomber), and the furor has died down.

We haven’t heard a word out of Turkey demanding an apology, have we? And if they did, how about they give the Greek Orthodox Church back Saint Sophia’s? It would be a great reciprocal gesture…

unclesmrgol on April 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

No, you’re the one that is clueless.

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Ok, God, if you say so!

If you want to argue that if Ronald Reagan would have accomplished as much as he did politically having Ann Coulter’s personality instead of having the one he did possess, be my guest. Be surprised only if I don’t laugh at you then! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

He didn’t acknowledge that the Danes did anything wrong, he didn’t say he respected Islam’s tenets, and he said he’d pay attention to different people’s sensibilities during his tenure. Big whoop!

What was detrimentally conciliatory about that ‘apology’ – he said nothing of substance?! What are MM and Michael van der Galien upset about anyways? Oh, I see, they don’t like that he wasn’t as harsh as they wanted him to be!

What I gather is that they doesn’t understand diplomacy very well.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Short of AFR declaring: “Islam sucks”, I doubt many in this crowd could would have accepted any he said. The man is the best choice to lead NATO that we could have and they fail to see the forest through the trees. I don’t often disagree with MM, but this time I do.

Renwaa on April 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Oh good. He’s a clever and strong politician. I am glad he got out of the stupid position Obama put him through.

promachus on April 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM

The turks want to join NATO more than we want the turks to join.

Turkey is a NATO member, and has been for over 50 years.

starfleet_dude on April 6, 2009 at 11:27 AM

If you want to argue that if Ronald Reagan would have accomplished as much as he did politically having Ann Coulter’s personality instead of having the one he did possess, be my guest. Be surprised only if I don’t laugh at you then! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

So you think that there is only two ways to be political…Ann Coulter or Ronald Reagan.
And you think that RR was always diplomatic…like when he said “Tear Down this Wall”…

“The years ahead will be great ones for our country, for the cause of freedom and the spread of civilization. The West will not contain Communism; it will transcend Communism. We will not bother to denounce it, we’ll dismiss it as a sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages are even now being written.”

“It is the Soviet Union that runs against the tide of history…. [It is] the march of freedom and democracy which will leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history as it has left other tyrannies which stifle the freedom and muzzle the self-expression of the people.”

It was an act of barbarism born of a society which wantonly disregards individual rights and the value of human life and seeks constantly to expand and dominate other nations.”

“My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

He was brutal on the regimes that he considered evil…He ridiculed them, threatened them, challenged, and he never backed down. Always from a position of strength…he understood negotiations. You negotiate from strength, not weakness, and our enemies understood it…Just ask Kadafi.

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM

If you want to argue that if Ronald Reagan would have accomplished as much as he did politically having Ann Coulter’s personality instead of having the one he did possess, be my guest. Be surprised only if I don’t laugh at you then! :)

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Are you on drugs?

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Wow, he’s not hard on the eyes. He’d make a great 007. Too bad he’s so squishy.

caygeon on April 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Turkey is a NATO member, and has been for over 50 years.

starfleet_dude on April 6, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Thanks. I thought so. But the other day I read something that stated they weren’t. I should have double checked myself. So, eff ‘em. There is no reason for them to act like a bunch of islamo-nuts.

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Wow, he’s not hard on the eyes”

caygeon on April 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM

You and Silvio Burlosconi agree:

On his first meeting with Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen in 2002, Berlusconi complimented him with the words: “Mr Rasmussen is not only a great colleague, he’s also the best-looking prime minister in Europe.”

He added: “He’s so good looking, I’m even thinking of introducing him to my wife.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7715016.stm

Renwaa on April 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Short of AFR declaring: “Islam sucks”, I doubt many in this crowd could would have accepted any he said.

Unfortunately, it looks to be that way, doesn’t it?

The man is the best choice to lead NATO that we could have and they fail to see the forest through the trees. I don’t often disagree with MM, but this time I do.

Renwaa on April 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM

I am with you on this. What relatively tactless people like MM and Ann Coulter don’t understand as well as people like Reagan and the Apostle Paul did is the adage ‘you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.’

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Something nobody mentioned yet: if he said this years ago he would have saved his countrys businesses billions. Instead, he acted tough. Why? Domestic politics? Reelection?

I would imagine Rasmussen did not want to alienate his coalition partners, the Danish People’s Party. The boycott was unsuccessful in the end. The lost revenue was offset by the Buy Danish campaign.

aengus on April 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Put down the crack pipe!

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 12:19 PM

So you think that there is only two ways to be political…Ann Coulter or Ronald Reagan.

You shouldn’t assume an ‘either/or’ there; I was merely contrasting their persuasive abilities.

No one in her/his right mind would believe that on any given issue that they’d agree upon, Reagan wouldn’t get more political support for it from his opposition than Ann would. There is a good reason for that, isn’t there? warmth > coldness

And you think that RR was always diplomatic…like when he said “Tear Down this Wall”…

He was brutal on the regimes that he considered evil…He ridiculed them, threatened them, challenged, and he never backed down. Always from a position of strength…he understood negotiations. You negotiate from strength, not weakness, and our enemies understood it…Just ask Kadafi.

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM

There’s a time and place for harsh rhetoric. Being tactful and diplomatic by knowing when to hold your tongue isn’t a sign of weakness. Compromising your principles is, though, and Rasmussen didn’t do anything of that sort in his ‘apology’.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Compromising your principles is, though, and Rasmussen didn’t do anything of that sort in his ‘apology’.

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:30 PM

If individual freedom, national sovereignty, and secular, civilian government are his principles, then he certainly did compromise them, and worse.

progressoverpeace on April 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Are you on drugs?

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Duuuuuuuuuuude, I recently drank a cup of caffeinated cola. Faaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrr out, man!!! Is that trippy enough for ya?

btw, you just ooze thoughtfulness and intellectualism. Did you know that?

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM

If individual freedom, national sovereignty, and secular, civilian government are his principles, then he certainly did compromise them, and worse.

progressoverpeace on April 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Specifically cite where he compromised in the manner you said he did…

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM

btw, you just ooze thoughtfulness and intellectualism. Did you know that?

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Yes, I do know that. You, however, go off on tangents, demonstrate an inability to identify and focus on the issues being discussed, and get a boner over Coulter and Malkin.

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Specifically cite where he compromised in the manner you said he did…

Bizarro No. 1 on April 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM

He didn’t just state that, in a free society, cartoons will be drawn

“I respect Islam as one of the world’s major religions as well as its religious symbols,”

Why does he have to respect islam? What is there about islam that deserves respect? Nothing. This is a violation of his principle of secular, civilian government (assuming that he claims to hold such a principle).

”I was deeply distressed that the cartoons were seen by many Muslims as an attempt by Denmark to mark and insult or behave disrespectively toward Islam or the Prophet Mohammad. Nothing could be further from my mind,” Rasmussen said…

So what if it was an attempt by “Denmark” (as in the general feeling of Danes) to insult or disrespect islam? Would that make it wrong? Not if someone cherishes the notion of individual freedom. And this also violates any alleged principle of national sovereignty, letting Danes’ attitudes be cowed by non-Danish muslims.

This was a capitulation. Plain and simple.

progressoverpeace on April 6, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Turkey wants to become a Full member of the EU.

http://countrystudies.us/turkey/89.htm

Gives history and reasons for the delays in making Turkey a full member of the EU.

journeyintothewhirlwind on April 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM

It’s called knowing when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em.

Frankly, I think Michael van der Galien’s insinuation of poll driven venality is pretty sleazy. Rasmussen was a beacon of sanity during the cartoon brouhaha. He drew clear lines in the sand that virtually no one else was willing to defend, and, contra van der Galien he did so at considerable domestic risk. How quickly we forget that Denmark has also been one of the only countries whose commitment to the mission in Iraq was unwavering!

Reagan may have issued some strongly worded statements, but as I recall, he was also pretty clear about not cutting off your nose to save your face by bad mouthing your allies. The current exercise in self-righteous outrage is perversely myopic on almost every level.

Rasmussen’s non-apology apology undercuts Islamist ability to stoke the fires against the Turkish government. It saved them the need for further public posturing, posturing which could only be a serious impediment to their unreserved participation in NATO operations. Like it or not, we need Turkey! It is a political and geographic lynchpin in the Middle East. Let’s not forget, it’s also one of the few countries in the region that has had a working relationship with Israel, a relationship that has become increasingly fragile.

Not only did Rasmussen just allow the current government to save major face by helping defuse internal Turkish controversy over his leadership of NATO, he did so a the very slight cost of throwing the Islamists what amounts to a rhetorical bone. Considering what will be gained in return, it’s the smartest bit of real diplomacy in action that we’ve seen for quite awhile. Alienating Turkish leadership does note serve our best interests. A secretary general of NATO who actually understands that does.

JM Hanes on April 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM

That would be **to spite your face** of course.

JM Hanes on April 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM

I’d only give him a pass if he ended with “… now what about an apology for the Armenian genocide perpetrated by the Turks?”

Blake on April 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM

What’s up Blake? Don’t you mean the Armenian genocide perpetrated on the Turks?
[Pre-snip of 500 lines of Turkish anti-armenian propaganda]

For those who are too young to remember this pre-blog Usenet event, take a look at: Serdar Argic or Usenet Spam

AZfederalist on April 6, 2009 at 11:01 PM

For what it is worth I, too, am distressed that the Mohammedans took the Danish cartoons as a reason to riot, take mortal offense, and issue death fatwas on the cartoonist and others.

I am not distressed that the cartoons were published. If I were I’d phrase it differently. I would come out directly and say I was distressed that the cartoons were published. That places the burden of my distress on the creator and publisher rather than on those who took the simple cartoon so harshly.

Being distressed that there are crude animals roving the Earth who are capable of making a simple minded cartoon into death threats and riots is completely rational. Stopping people from creating and publish such cartoons is not. The onus for change is on those who are distressed.

{^_^}

herself on April 7, 2009 at 5:13 AM

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