Gingrich: The U.S. is at greater risk of attack under Obama

posted at 4:55 pm on April 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

Tender red meat on a day when SecDef Gates is announcing cuts in defense spending, including $1.4 billion slashed in missile defense. There’s some boilerplate about Gitmo and interrogations, but most of his ire’s directed towards The One’s response to North Korea:

In a chat with POLITICO readers, Gingrich also called the administration’s response to the North Korean missile launch a “vivid demonstration of weakness in foreign policy.” He said Obama’s proposals for a resumption of nuclear arms limitation talks reflected “a dangerous fantasy that runs an enormous risk. … Not since Jimmy Carter have we had an administration this out of touch with reality.”…

On the North Korean missile launch, he said “the embarrassing repudiation of the United States appeal to the United Nations Security Council Sunday afternoon is a vivid demonstration of weakness. This is beginning to resemble the Carter administration’s weakness in foreign policy.”

He said Obama’s speech on nuclear disarmament in Prague on Sunday “is a dangerous fantasy that runs an enormous risk. It is part of the Obama administration’s substitution of words for thoughts and fantasies for achievements.”…

“There was amazing symbolism in North Korea deciding to launch a missile the very day President Obama was speaking to Europeans about his fantasy of nuclear disarmament. The West has talked with North Korea for over 15 years and they just keep building nuclear weapons and missiles. We have been talking with the Iranians for a decade and they continue to build nuclear capability and missiles.

I don’t take Obama’s nuclear disarmament rhetoric seriously (yet), partly because he’s been reasonably prudent on foreign policy so far and partly because he’s even more prone to indulging in utopian pap before European audiences than American ones. All part of our new national image makeover, you see. As for North Korea, what exactly is the alternative to how Obama handled it? What would McCain have done differently? Newt told Fox News Sunday yesterday that a President Gingrich would have disabled the missile before launch — “there are three or four techniques that could have been used” — but that’s so nutty and “out of touch with reality” itself that I can’t believe he seriously means it. With Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan already on the Pentagon’s plate and the economy teetering towards depression, he would have risked a regional war involving millions of Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese and a global economic meltdown just to prove a point about missile tests? How, exactly, would the threats to the United States in the Middle East be lessened by America suddenly having to commit tens or hundreds of thousands of troops to defending Seoul? Granted, the UN kabuki is pointless, but it keeps North Korea reasonably quiet while we attend to more pressing matters. What am I missing here?

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Not since Jimmy Carter have we had an administration this out of touch with reality

No, really?

Iblis on April 6, 2009 at 4:57 PM

We are sitting ducks under this “administration.”

But the adults are in charge…….

UltimateBob on April 6, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Maybe they can trade Seoul for a couple of unicorns.

TexasJew on April 6, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Not since Jimmy Carter have we had an administration this out of touch with reality

This cretin is making Jimmy Carter look like Atticus Finch.

TexasJew on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

You shoot it down while denying you shot it down. Just say “crappy North Korean quality.”

And remind Li’l Kim and his generals that any attack on SoKo will result in Pyong-yang’s nuking. Kim may be a nut, but I doubt his generals are.

rbj on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

How, exactly, would the threats to the United States in the Middle East be lessened by America suddenly having to commit tens or hundreds of thousands of troops to defending Seoul? Granted, the UN kabuki is pointless, but it keeps North Korea reasonably quiet while we attend to more pressing matters. What am I missing here?

I’ll get back to you after I check with my son, as he’s less than 2 hours away from Seoul. Without a doubt, he and his fellow Airman should know what you are missing.

ladyingray on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

What am I missing here?

Maybe Newt has JFK style fantasies of James Bond types arranging an accident for the missile

Iblis on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

I don’t take Obama’s nuclear disarmament rhetoric seriously (yet), partly because he’s been reasonably prudent on foreign policy so far and partly because he’s even more prone to indulging in utopian pap before European audiences than American ones.

Foreign policy includes a strong defense and yet our defense budget is the one place Obama is making huge cuts. Do you seriously think that is “reasonably prudent”?

I don’t. It scares the hell out of me.

ladyingray on April 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM

I submitted a question about the direction of the GOP but it didn’t get picked, darn. Let’s face it, Obama can’t be inspiring people with the notion of US disarming to lead the way. NoK proved the futility of that point in spades over the weekend.

msmveritas on April 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Newt is wrong here.

NK just wants attention; so every few years it throws a temper tantrum – fakes a nuke test, launches a missile, whatever.

This video perfectly sums up NK.

lorien1973 on April 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

I don’t take Obama’s nuclear disarmament rhetoric seriously (yet),

Think back to the campaign and all the other loony things the idiot messiah said, and that many of us warned you about, that you didn’t want to believe, because you thought the idiot messiah was so darned smart …

partly because he’s been reasonably prudent on foreign policy so far

“reasonably prudent”? Have you been following this fiasco he’s on in Europe?

And, by the way, his nuke disarmament talk isn’t all about getting rid of our nukes (at the moment) but it’s the tool he’s going to use to go to war against Israel. Israel, of course, will be the first country he chooses to enforce his new “no-nuke” policy on and … I won’t go into the details about what The Precedent will do, since you just wouldn’t believe it … but imagine something awful and that’s probably pretty close, except that it will be worse than you can even imagine.

BTW, has Treasury been staffed yet, as we are still in the midst of our banking crisis? No. Why do you think not? Ponder that.

progressoverpeace on April 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

So where is the main page thread about the defense budget cuts? We have multiple threads on Levi and Tyra, even sexting, but no headlining of the deep defense budget cuts.

PBoilermaker on April 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Newt is wrong here.

NK just wants attention; so every few years it throws a temper tantrum – fakes a nuke test, launches a missile, whatever.

This video perfectly sums up NK.

lorien1973 on April 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Newt doesn’t seem to be saying anything that would contradict what you just said. It is a dangerous precedent when the US says there will be consequences – but in the end caves too all NK demands… At the least, the US could be negotiating harder with China to crack down on NK. All we hear is that we have too many nukes and that’s the problem…

Upstater85 on April 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM

what exactly is the alternative to how Obama handled it?

ANS: Stop shipping them food. If China cares so much about the North Koreans, they can ship them food. Heck, they can even drive right in.

WashJeff on April 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM

the act of bowing down to the Saudi Monarch, makes us at Great Risk all by itself. That alone should freak you out.

jp on April 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM

I think your analysis is pretty good, AP, but cutting missile defense spending the day after the Norks’ provocation is a tactic worthy of the Film Actors’ Guild.

DRPrice on April 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM

And remind Li’l Kim and his generals that any attack on SoKo will result in Pyong-yang’s nuking. Kim may be a nut, but I doubt his generals are.

rbj on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

I don’t think that would work. Kim and his generals know that the US would not have the stomach for using nukes, no matter who our president is.

They would call our bluff.

UltimateBob on April 6, 2009 at 5:08 PM

ANS: Stop shipping them food. If China cares so much about the North Koreans, they can ship them food. Heck, they can even drive right in.

WashJeff on April 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Now that might work.

UltimateBob on April 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM

And, by the way, his nuke disarmament talk isn’t all about getting rid of our nukes (at the moment) but it’s the tool he’s going to use to go to war against Israel

A proposed US-led war against Israel would not survive public opinion.

aengus on April 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Would taking out the DPRK’s missile have sparked a war? Their military can’t be any good and their missiles hardly work.

Besides, wouldn’t China just tighten the leash a little?

John_Locke on April 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I love when Newt makes these (recent) pronouncements… fun to watch the heads of the lefties explode.

D2Boston on April 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Michael Jordan inducted into NBA Hall of Fame
The sky is blue
The U.S. is at greater risk of attack under Obama

I can’t decide which is these is the biggest “Duh!”

innominatus on April 6, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Regarding the “fantasy of nuclear disarmament” – really, I cannot for the life of me understand why Obama thinks that reducing our nuclear stockpile will have any effect on North Korea at all except possibly encouraging them. I would love to hear an explanation from him other than “we must lead the way.” Convince me, President Obama, truly.

kc8ukw on April 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Airborne Laser, EMP, re-runs of the Smurfs?

Tyrs Fury on April 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Ask the NYT what we should do. They’ll decide for Obama anyway. Why not cut straight to the source.

Griz on April 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM

This is beginning to resemble the Carter administration’s weakness in foreign policy.”

THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

HondaV65 on April 6, 2009 at 5:15 PM

You shoot it down while denying you shot it down. Just say “crappy North Korean quality.”

rbj on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Who’s to say that didn’t happen? It did “fail” ya know….

jwehman on April 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM

President Obama’s proposal for world-wide nuclear disarmament is a dangerous fantasy. It would be like banning all firearms in the United States. Then, only the criminals would have firearms, while law abiding citizens and even our government would be defenseless against them. The same thing would happen if the world disarms: Only the rogue states and terrorist groups would have nuclear weapons, and the world would be held hostage.

The fact that Obama made such a proposal after North Korea violated UN sanctions and shot a missile over Japan is, then referred the problem to the UN, shouts weakness to every competitor and enemy of our nation.

Thanks, Jimmy Carter Junior.

Loxodonta on April 6, 2009 at 5:17 PM

What am I missing here?

Nothing. Your analysis is correct. The world is full of stuff we can’t control.

paul006 on April 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Don’t underestimate him, Obama is the greatest danger to the Republic since the election of Jimmy Carter. He obviously hates what America stands for and is about to weaken her defenses to a state that will invite aggression. The truly disgusting part is that the inept, hopelessly confused congress is doing nothing except milling around aimlessly like sheep in a stockyard corral defecating on each other’s heads. We are in deep trouble and there doesn’t appear to be anyone capable of countering this tragedy.

rplat on April 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Maybe we did shoot it down….

I posed a question prior to the launch on whether an airborne laser execution of a missile would be detectable .

Wheres that 747?

Sonosam on April 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM

N. Korea sees Iran shooting off missles and building nuke things and getting away with it.
Iran gets respect, N. Korea does not…or so they think.
Plus now Obama wants to negotiate with Iran. N Korea translates that to mean free $$$$! (Or perhaps at least a free Netflix account for the U.S. movie-buff, Kim J.)
So Kim J. wants some of that US bailout $$$$$, plus some Obama “love”…

Nobody can really do much about N Korea – not with China having a choke hold on all that U.S. debt.

And since the N. Korea missile shoot was kind of a flop….how do we know that the U.S. did not do something electronically to it? Phasers or some type of Windows virus.

I suggest sending Hillary and Michelle over to visit Kim J. The shock of seeing those two in person would probably give him an on-the-spot, dead-before-he-hits-the-ground, double heart attack.

albill on April 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM

One thing that can be done is to publicly give Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea the approval of the USA to develop nuclear weapons if North Korea isn’t going to stop. Faced with the possibility of an arms race in Asia, the Chinese and the Russians might finally be compelled to stop the North Koreans.

Mark1971 on April 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM

How, exactly, would the threats to the United States in the Middle East be lessened by America suddenly having to commit tens or hundreds of thousands of troops to defending Seoul?

Allah, Heritage.org give a very clear answer..”North Korea shares technology and expertise with Iran and they watch each other’s missile programs to see what they can get away with from the international community and the U.S”…we just let North Korea get away with what is essentially a violation of UN sanctions (UN…sanctions..shouldn’t even be in the same sentence)..this will only embolden Iran to continue on..thank God Israels Netanyahu seems to have the balls to actually DO something, the sooner the better.

Wileygrl3 on April 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM

substitution of words for thoughts and fantasies for achievements.

(from the article)

Loved this phrase …

YiZhangZhe on April 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM

As soon as NK thinks it is safe or at least not be attacked by the U.S., they are moving into SK.
That is the danger…you can’t “blink” with any of these dictators, they are where they are by cutting the legs out from under their opponents. It would be like a wall street guy at midnight on a dark street, trying to convince a Detroit inner city hoodlum not to rob him.
None of these guys were “elected” they murdered, maimed, tortured, their way to the top.
ACORN won’t help Obama in Korea…

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM

What am I missing here?

About 38 IQ points.

Please stick to Palin bashing TMZ type articles, namely with inane exit questions.

Leave the foreign policy to the adults here.

Odie1941 on April 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Leave the foreign policy to the adults here.

Odie1941 on April 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM

What’s the adult solution then?

John_Locke on April 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Mark1971 on April 6, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Or because of the surrender agreement with Japan, and the fact that we are bound (by treaty and agreement) to defend them, we are forced to place nuclear missiles as a “defense” due to Korea’s escalation.

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM

I posed a question prior to the launch on whether an airborne laser execution of a missile would be detectable .

Wheres that 747?

Sonosam on April 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM

On the Obama chopping block.

Other terminations could include the Navy-managed VH-71 presidential helicopter program, sources said, as well as the Air Force’s Airborne Laser program.

amerpundit on April 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Things that should have been …

Obama steps to the teleprompter …

“My fellow Americans … yesterday, the North Korean government launched a long range ballistic missile. This missile launch was part of a test in their program to develop a missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to the United States of America.

And because we’ve been “developing” our balistic missile defense system to defend against such a missile – we figured … “What the heck? There’s no better opportunity to TEST our system than on a North Korean missile launch test of THEIR system.

So … uhm … well the teleprompter seems to be broken – bear with me while I ‘freewheel the rest of this’ … hehe … uhm …

Well … so I uh … ordered our balistic missile defense system to shoot their missile down. Which it did … a direct hit … as they uh … say in the Navy Fire Controlman’s world … uhm … direct hit … ‘skin on skin’ … let the love begin … hehe … I … uh … added that last part hehe … keepin’ it real you know?

Oh goodie … I see the telepromper is running again!

Anyway … I’d like to thank the North Korean government for cooperating in this test of offensive and defensive missile systems. It’s great when two countries can cooperate on something like this. By the way – this was only a test – if it had been the real thing … we’d have followed up with a full nuclear retaliatory strike on North Korea – basically paving their entire country with nukes. That’s called “YAD” … “Your Assured Destruction” … because you launch a missile at us – we blow it up and send our entire arsenal your way. Iran … are you guys listening?

But once again – we thank the North Koreans for participating in our test. Realizing they participated involuntarily – we’re going to be compensating them for the cost of their destroyed missile. We’ll be forwarding a check for $20 dollars, which is the dollar value of the missile the North Koreans lost here.

Once again – thanks to the Government of North Korea. Thank you very much.”

HondaV65 on April 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM

He obviously hates what America stands for

rplat on April 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM

That isn’t obvious to me … I think it more likely that he and many others don’t know or don’t understand what America stands for because they haven’t really thought through the alternatives, history and human nature in sufficient depth.

YiZhangZhe on April 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I’d think of sending Pyongyang a message via Beijing about the very real possibility of a nuclear armed Tokyo if the little pot-bellied pig keeps up his grunting and posturing.

jimmy2shoes on April 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Wheres that 747?

About to be mothballed. Seriously. (see AP’s link above re: missile defense cuts)

Cuffy Meigs on April 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Other terminations could include the Navy-managed VH-71 presidential helicopter program, sources said, as well as the Air Force’s Airborne Laser program.
amerpundit on April 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Dang it! That Air Force’s Airborne Laser could have been used to “align” the mosques correctly in Mecca.

WashJeff on April 6, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Obama has been tested many times already and he’s failed every test:
- Russia threatens to put missiles in the Baltics and bomber bases in South America. Obama apologizes for America.
- Hamas sends missiles into Israel. Obama gives them $700,000,000.
- China’s threatens our forces outside of Chinese waters. No response.
- N. Korea’s missile test. Obama waits for the world community to act. They don’t.

At about this time, Gates cuts military spending, saying it’s a real opportunity!

Christian Conservative on April 6, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Goodby F-22

Goodbye C-17

Goodbye FCS

Goodbye Airborne Laser

Hello ACORN

pseudonominus on April 6, 2009 at 5:34 PM

You’re missing a few issues of Popular Science. The launch could easily have been prevented without exposure. Any smart leader would have known this. What was Obama’s GPA again?

frizzbee on April 6, 2009 at 5:34 PM

As for North Korea, what exactly is the alternative to how Obama handled it?

A public statement directly from everyone in the administration that the United States is not intimidated by a failed launch of a missile from North Korea. Nor would we be intimidated by a successful launch.

That the United States will stand with our Allies in the Region, and if North Korea provokes armed conflict it will be the end of North Korea as an independent country either because the United States and South Korea or China take complete control of the North.

All of the public hand wringing, moaning, and wiping one’s sweated brow only show just how cowardly is The Obama.

Skandia Recluse on April 6, 2009 at 5:35 PM

What’s the adult solution then?

John_Locke on April 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM

The adult solution would be to NOT decrease missile defense spending, which was just done. We should be putting N Korea back on the terror list and sanctioning the hell out of them, without the UN because the UN is worthless and has an abysmal record on deterrent techniques.

Wileygrl3 on April 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM

pseudonominus on April 6, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Well, you can’t readily pay for national defense and socialized medicine, expanded welfare, and $2 trillion for climate change. Priorities.

amerpundit on April 6, 2009 at 5:38 PM

I think another autographed basketball — or baseball, Kim’s choice — would difuse the situation and make Kim think twice about any plans for “reunification”.

Punchenko on April 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM

It was fine when Biden said it.

Jim Treacher on April 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Kissing up in fear never works. Newt is right – get the biggest stick you can find and use it. That keeps ‘em quiet and in line………..the U.N. is where Obama’s lefty pals go for cocktail hour while they skim cash off the world’s Dictators.

Cinday Blackburn on April 6, 2009 at 5:47 PM

The threat to the United States is just like the events that have already occurred. Groups of terrorist not representing any nation will do the very worst they can with the worst things they can get their hands on. The rogue states are not going to do anything because they know they cannot hide from retaliation that will end their fate whether they do it overtly or sponsor terrorist who leave the smoking gun pointing at them. Obama is in the process of making these terrorist jobs easier and for the rogue nations to hide them with total anonymity. The rogue nations will yell, scream, rattle their swords, do provocative things but they are not going to fire a missile into any nation. There are leaders out there that certainly act crazy but none of them are that crazy. The method for stopping terrorism has not been devised yet unless you accept the Iraq model which would do it but is messy and most of all doesn’t have enough world support to make it feasible and even the biggest gorilla in the world isn’t big enough. As long as some people believe a terrorist is another man’s patriot it isn’t going to happen. Obama is shifting the advantage back to the terrorist for sure.

rsl775 on April 6, 2009 at 5:49 PM

What you are missing allah, is that their technology is steadily progressing. 2 years ago, it was a dud. Today, it goes through Japanese airspace. In another 2 years it could probably go 1,200 miles with some sort of precision aiming installed. 4 years from now, maybe they will be able to put a satellite in space, but the point is these missiles are progressing and we do nothing. If it was shot out of the air, they wouldn’t have known exactly what it could do. N. Korea has shown it can fire a working missile and in the face of the Obama administration. Those Iranaian in audience for the missile launch will now be happy to exchange blueprints with the N. Koreans.

Daemonocracy on April 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Newt may actually be right. It is my understanding that the military has some capacity to knock out the launch of these missiles using its satellite capabilities, and that they have used this technology in the past to knock out prior missile launches by North Korea. So, it might not be as far out as you imply. Of course, I don’t know that for certain, by any means.

RedSoxNation on April 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

he’s been reasonably prudent on foreign policy

What are you smoking allah?

promachus on April 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

The adult solution would be to NOT decrease missile defense spending, which was just done.

Wileygrl3 on April 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM

That approach, especially if they announced an increase in missile defense as response to the NK launch, might also put some pressure on China and Russia to put Kim on a shorter leash.

Loxodonta on April 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

I don’t think disabling the launch would have provoked a war with North Korea. Invading Seoul because the US bombed a missile launching pad would have been an insane response from NK. Not that NK is incapable of an insane response, but isn’t that they are so capable of insanity the primary reason why it is vital we cripple their nuclear ambitions at every opportunity?

The ideal would be to show capability to shoot down the missile as soon as it launched. What a powerful message that would have been.

DarkKnight3565 on April 6, 2009 at 5:56 PM

So where is the main page thread about the defense budget cuts? We have multiple threads on Levi and Tyra, even sexting, but no headlining of the deep defense budget cuts.

PBoilermaker on April 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM

AP is busy replaying the Tyra Show over and over.

KBird on April 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM

What’s the adult solution then?

John_Locke on April 6, 2009 at 5:27 PM

For 1 – not asking inane exit questions, supported by the lack of basic nuclear policy – exhibited by Allahpundit.

2 – lets’s take a look at what else is going on: China, the constant “restraint” mouthpiece has a big piece of American pie that needs to recover, or they can just flush a few Trillion T Bills out the door. For as much as people think we are beholden to China, due to their investments – they need a rate of return, most importantly now; considering their economy is directly attributed to our economy, as is Russia. We are the #1 importer of Chinese goods and services and the #1 country of Chinese investments. Lets start playing that hand correctly.

3 – The current state of American troops in S Korea is still on UN Police Notice, since the 1950′s AND the fact this launch was in violation of the UN Security Council’s 2006 decision AFTER N Korea last played the “we will launch what we want to” But I digress, being how useless the liars in the UN are to the next point…

4 – Even though he is a dolt, Obama clearly stated on the very same day “words must have consequences” – of which we are in Iraq/UN 27 violations redux. So do something, like pull all aid, form an embargo with ships and let every UN participating nation know – you will get zero $$$ if and when you assist N Korea in anything against said embargo.

5 – Call their bluff. Thats right – for all of the posturing Russia and China do concerning N Korea, lets hit them where it hurts – their bizarre and deranged leader. Kill him with tactical strikes, bomb every installment (while we still have the military might to do it) and let the N Koreans know – with Kim Il gone – you can be the “new Japan” of the 21st century. Food, clothing, hope, an actual economy, you know the basic human needs…

The pandering to the UN and “world” of diplomacy is nothing but a pissing contest, which of course is why Bolton was so unpopular. The notion that China and Russia would attack the US based on this is something to be considered, but history – and the current state of financial affairs tells me they would side with a result in $$$ over a timely, massive funding of a global war for a useless pawn called N Korea.

Hell, give the Chinese N Korea, though the Chinese do not think highly of “Korean Dogs”…

Odie1941 on April 6, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Never would have fired it under Bush … just sayin’.

ex-Democrat on April 6, 2009 at 6:14 PM

We’re going to start fighting different kinds of wars now…ya know, ones that we lose…

29Victor on April 6, 2009 at 6:17 PM

If McCain had won I am not so sure NK would have done this. That might be one thing Allah missed.

However, the larger point is that Obama is going to do what Clinton did with Saddam. Talk big and carry no stick. He will keep drawing lines in the sand and then when NK hops over them, draw more.

That is the problem. Obama is talking about getting rid of all the bad nasty nukes as if he is King of the World or something and then he makes it plain that he can not even stop NK launching a missile.

Terrye on April 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM

Lemme just throw something out here which I posted at AoS yesterday.

Could it be that our defense/intel establishment types recommended to Obama to not do anything so that we could gather intel on the missile’s performance and the Norks’ capabilities?

flipflop on April 6, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Newt can come out with intelligent things from time to time. This was not one of those times.

If I had to pick one regime out of the current crop which is really evil and dangerous it would have to be the DPRK. I don’t know what Newt is seriously advocating here. Any tapering with the missile would certainly have been noticed while on the pad or shortly after launch. If Newt’s policy is to sacrifice South Korea in order to stop a missile test then he should have made that clearer. What a dork.

I’m still waiting for someone to come up with a good policy for North Korea that will yeild the desired result without a million people getting killed. I’m not even sure that knocking off the head of state would do the trick.

lexhamfox on April 6, 2009 at 6:27 PM

That approach, especially if they announced an increase in missile defense as response to the NK launch, might also put some pressure on China and Russia to put Kim on a shorter leash.

Loxodonta on April 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Absolutely. Both China and Russia, though I trust neither of them, have a lot to lose if either N Korea or Iran actually deploys a nuke. They’re both playing a game with Obama to reduce our defense strategies..which they seem to be achieving after hearing the defense cuts today..and if N korea or Iran deploy a nuke it would absolutely stop cold any progress China or Russia thinks it’s gaining on the US because we’d strike back hard..or at least I’d hope we would. With Obama, I’m not sure what he’d do or not do.

Wileygrl3 on April 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM

With Obama, I’m not sure what he’d do or not do.

Wileygrl3 on April 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Well, you can bet it wouldn’t be unilateral. That’s the way of the old, arrogant, go-it-alone cowboy America.

flipflop on April 6, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Ah, the fear card.

I guess newt thinks he is attending the intell briefings like dick.

Well, it will work on the cons because they are scared of everything.

getalife on April 6, 2009 at 6:41 PM

“The West has talked with North Korea for over 15 years and they just keep building nuclear weapons and missiles. We have been talking with the Iranians for a decade and they continue to build nuclear capability and missiles.”

……….. anyone else see a pattern here?

Seven Percent Solution on April 6, 2009 at 6:43 PM

No sh–, Dick Tracy.

MaiDee on April 6, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Never would have fired it under Bush … just sayin’.

ex-Democrat on April 6, 2009 at 6:14 PM

So true…

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM

“there are three or four techniques that could have been used” — but that’s so nutty and “out of touch with reality” itself that I can’t believe he seriously means it.

Sorry Allah, but you’re full of crap here. Just suppose we were to have done ‘something’. What’s Kim going to do besides shit in his pants when his bluff is called? He can’t feed his own people, and relies on other countries to provide him with oil. Is he going to attack South Korea? How long will that last? Do you think the Chinese give a rat’s ass about him? We’re not talking the Red China of the 50′s. It’s about time we stop catering to Kim and start TELLING HIM what he’s going to do. Or we let ‘em starve. Get a couple million starving people, your army is going to have it’s hands full.

GarandFan on April 6, 2009 at 6:52 PM

getalife on April 6, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Will you quit posting…you are making a fool of yourself, you add nothing to the comments, you are like a little dog that yaps everytime they hear a noise they don’t like…isn’t Krispy Kreme putting out their mark-downs now, hurry and on down…

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 6:52 PM

This had absolutely everything to do with the Middle East, specifically Iran.

This wasn’t a temper tantrum…it was a joint science fair project.

selias on April 6, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Could it be that our defense/intel establishment types recommended to Obama to not do anything so that we could gather intel on the missile’s performance and the Norks’ capabilities?

flipflop on April 6, 2009 at 6:22 PM

I think that is realistic, along with picking up how Russia was monitoring the launch.
Reminds me of the flack that Reagan got for selling the Chinese high speed computer/printers used in missile launches. What they had, that no one knew, was a homing device embedded in the board. They were sold to Iraq, and in the first Gulf War, when they turned those babies on, we had a signal of every launch site with missiles.
You never really know what moves the military “Chess Men” are making.

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Please, they did fire the rockets in 2006. Newt said nothing.

Newt is playing the fear card for the cons.

It will not work on the majority but they got nothing else.

getalife on April 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM

All God’s (and Allah’s) people said, AMEN!

CynicalOptimist on April 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM

“Not since Jimmy Carter have we had an administration this out of touch with reality.”…

The understatement of the year!!!

DanaSmiles on April 6, 2009 at 7:03 PM

In some ways yes,

but what would have carter done in obamas place?

obama has been toeing the line as far as prosecution of the war while dishing his populist pap at the same time.

Im not sure carter wouldnt have pulled out or something worse.

Sonosam on April 6, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Could it be that our defense/intel establishment types recommended to Obama to not do anything so that we could gather intel on the missile’s performance and the Norks’ capabilities?

flipflop on April 6, 2009 at 6:22 PM

I doubt that, as the US didn’t even bother to use it’s best monitoring system on the NK missile test, according to the LA Times:

However, U.S. officials did not use one of their most powerful radar systems, the sea-based X-band radar, which would have been capable of monitoring a broader area in greater detail. Officials did not say why the X-band radar was not used. But the X-band system is a key component of the U.S. missile-defense system and its use could have been seen by other countries as provocative.

Loxodonta on April 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM

With GOP leaders like Newt, it’s no wonder the party will stay in the minority for a good time to come. Yet Palin (as she continues to take on an 18 year old kid in the press) makes him look almost passable.

Monkei on April 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM

With GOP leaders like Newt, it’s no wonder the party will stay in the minority for a good time to come. Yet Palin (as she continues to take on an 18 year old kid in the press) makes him look almost passable.

Monkei on April 6, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Please, they did fire the rockets in 2006. Newt said nothing.

getalife on April 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM

But guess who DID say something? Democrats wanted to bomb the launchpad in 2006. This time? {crickets}

Cuffy Meigs on April 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Please, they did fire the rockets in 2006. Newt said nothing.

Newt is playing the fear card for the cons.

It will not work on the majority but they got nothing else.

getalife on April 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Once the cons give him the GOP nomination he will do another photo shoot with Nanners on the loveseat and do some climate fearmongering to get everyone else on board.

Don’t worry, there is plenty of fearmongering to go around for everybody.

Punchenko on April 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Newt Gingrich is an absolute joke. Nice thread Allah.

DeathToMediaHacks on April 6, 2009 at 7:39 PM

I like Newt. Why couldn’t he be our guy?

scalleywag on April 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Please, they did fire the rockets in 2006. Newt said nothing.

Newt is playing the fear card for the cons.

It will not work on the majority but they got nothing else.

getalife on April 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM

You’re still using the con word, but hey, you didn’t mention the “adults were in charge”. Because they are not.

scalleywag on April 6, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Of course Obama HAD to make his nuclear disarmament announcement when he did. Who knew the Norks were gonna light off their missile when the did?

(Only the rest of us who’ve been following the news for the last month, that’s who.)

Greg Toombs on April 6, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Granted, the UN kabuki is pointless, but it keeps North Korea reasonably quiet while we attend to more pressing matters. What am I missing here?

That’s what they said while Hitler rearmed and drove into the Sudetenland.

tommylotto on April 6, 2009 at 8:34 PM

I’ll get back to you after I check with my son, as he’s less than 2 hours away from Seoul. Without a doubt, he and his fellow Airman should know what you are missing.

ladyingray on April 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Good one! God bless your son.

Oink on April 6, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Who knows?

Terrorism doesn’t necessarily mean hitting all available targets, but merely getting their message out there and of course, instilling fear in a populace, causing mistrust and infighting and mobilizing the Left who are sympathetic to your cause and unsympathetic to Democracy and Conservatism.

Just showing that they could carry out a major attack was a big deal, and that thought will always loom in the back of our minds. Also, 9-11 set into motion a series of events that led to the re-election of Jimmy Carter, so that in itself may be enough for them…for now anyway.

Still, the other aspect of terrorism is that it’s unpredictable. When it doesn’t happen, or if they are stopped, then what is predictable is that the Left will go on about the ‘culture of fear’ that Conservatives use to gain power and bring Nazi/Fascist rule and talk about how they ‘cry wolf’ once too often and that it is we who are the real terrorists.

Works like a charm.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Never would have fired it under Bush … just sayin’.

ex-Democrat on April 6, 2009 at 6:14 PM
So true…

right2bright on April 6, 2009 at 6:50 PM

+1

Allahpundit, why must you always play devil’s advocate? Is that it?

Oink on April 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Seriously, why is NoKo even an issue after all these years? They have nothing we want. They supply nothing to the rest of the world (correct me if I’m wrong.) Yet we keep shooing at the same fly year after year after year. I cannot understand why we don’t get the fly swatter after him and take aim.

Oink on April 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM

“reasonably prudent”?

That’s just f’kin funny. Really it is.

Spiritk9 on April 7, 2009 at 4:40 AM

maybe our president wants to sell our old rockets to Korea so he has enought money to fund the pork.

workingforpigs on April 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM

I don’t take Obama’s nuclear disarmament rhetoric seriously…
AP

So, AP, what Obama rhetoric do you take seriously?
Are you still waiting for the New York Times to tell you what to believe?
And do you still believe that so many of us here are suffering from ODS or maybe, just maybe, we were right about the backstabbing lying crapweasel SOB.

SKYFOX on April 7, 2009 at 9:06 AM

And do you still believe that so many of us here are suffering from ODS or maybe, just maybe, we were right about the backstabbing lying crapweasel SOB.

SKYFOX on April 7, 2009 at 9:06 AM

You must really like the guy. That post is almost a compliment based on his performance to date.

duff65 on April 7, 2009 at 9:15 AM

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