McCain loses temper with Hispanic immigration activists

posted at 2:55 pm on April 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

When we remind people that elections have consequences, we’re usually talking about the outrage that comes from appointments to the executive and judicial branches.  They have other consequences on policy and legislative priorities, as John McCain “forcefully” reminded Hispanic immigration activists at a meeting last month.  National Journal reports on the fallout today:

The meeting in the Capitol’s Strom Thurmond Room on March 11 was a Republican effort led by Sens. McCain of Arizona, John Thune of South Dakota, and Mel Martinez of Florida to reach out to Hispanics. But two people who attended the session say they were taken aback by McCain’s anger.

What began as a collegial airing of views abruptly changed when McCain spoke about immigration, according to these sources, who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution. Anonymity was also requested by a third source, who was not at the meeting but was told, independently of the other two, that McCain had displayed his notorious temper.

“He was angry,” one source said. “He was over the top. In some cases, he rolled his eyes a lot. There were portions of the meeting where he was just staring at the ceiling, and he wasn’t even listening to us. We came out of the meeting really upset.”

McCain’s message was obvious, the source continued: After bucking his party on immigration, he had no sympathy for Hispanics who are dissatisfied with President Obama’s pace on the issue. “He threw out [the words] ‘You people — you people made your choice. You made your choice during the election,’ ” the source said. “It was almost as if [he was saying] ‘You’re cut off!’ We felt very uncomfortable when we walked away from the meeting because of that.”

I don’t have much sympathy for McCain on his immigration policies.   McCain thought that Hispanics would flock to his banner based on his embrace of most of their agenda.  In the end, though, McCain and Barack Obama wound up at just about the same policy on immigration, making it a wash in the presidential election.  Hispanics instead overwhelmingly supported Obama over McCain, 67%-31%, an even worse drubbing than George Bush got in either election.  McCain had lectured Republicans for years about losing the Hispanic vote if we didn’t produce candidates sympathetic to amnesty or amnesty-lite programs, and he got humiliated by the failure of his argument in November.

I have even less sympathy for the people demanding his attention now.  These are the same activists who convinced McCain that he could ride a Hispanic wave of support if he only adopted their policies.  McCain fought with his own party to do so, and most of them abandoned him for Obama.  Now they want to harangue them into taking up their cause again.  I don’t blame McCain a bit for responding, in essence, by telling them to stuff it and start whining to Barack Obama instead.

Yid with Lid says another demographic should be paying attention to this lesson, as well:

Other Obama supporting interest groups should be aware what can happen when you vote against the candidate who works so hard for your cause and vote for the candidate who will harm your interests (like the 78% of the Jewish Vote).

Well, yeah.


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…………… what are they complaining about?

Seven Percent Solution on April 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Exactly. What do they need McCain for except political cover for the Dems? Seems they’re not so much immigration activists as Democratic party activists. Republicans are hopefully reading the writing on the wall now.

chunderroad on April 3, 2009 at 3:54 PM

like the 78% of the Jewish Vote

Like the 50% Catholic vote.

Haunches on April 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Or the GAY vote, I might add, Ed. I made my bed with Hillary, and when it came down to McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden, I threw my lot in with the economic/national defense principles I believed in, rather than the socio-identity politics pandering of Obama.

lansing quaker on April 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM

McCain sold his soul on the immigraion issue via Juan Hernandez. Obviously Juan couldn’t deliver the Hispanic vote and now he’s pissed? Sorry John, until I see a Bad Lietenent moment, you’ll never get my vote again.

moxie_neanderthal on April 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Karma…. its an interesting thing…

McCain got nailed by McCain Feingold…

Now these folks, who did not support McCain, wonder why he is not supporting them…

What next, a President elected with no real world experience… betrayed by the bad actions of his staff, because of their lack of experience?

Romeo13 on April 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM

McCain is pandering now to conservatives. Please, J.D. Hayworth, run against McLame. I’ve had enough of this guy. Always sticking his finger in the wind to see which way he’ll go. McCain knows we want him out, so he results into giving us a bone. However, we’re not falling for it.

jencab on April 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM

docdave on April 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM

My point, exactly.

And, we would be getting daily pictures of Sarah instead of she-who-must-not-be-compared-to-a-space-alien.

Y-not on April 3, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Want some historical proof? Look at the black society, once the most honest, faithful, society in the U.S. A lower crime rate then whites, less divorce then whites, more spiritual then whites…and in just a few decades of supporting the Democrats, look what has happened to their society, torn apart, uneducated, out of wed lock birth, high drop out, high crime.

right2bright on April 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM

This is so tragically true. I wish we could wake up our nation, and it’s “separate” ethnic communities, to what we lose when we reject faith and family in favor of the ideologies of the Left which destroy families and require faith in it alone despite it’s endless destructive failures. We shouldn’t be pandering to illegal immigrants, but we should be educating legal immigrants and praising them for and supporting them in their commitment to their faith and their families and encouraging them to preserve that.

We as conservatives should be proudly pointing for all Americans and newcomers the way to the path blazed by our fore bearers to security and prosperity, and warning them of the despair of those that have sold their souls to leftism and abandoned all the better virtues at the behest of self-serving politicians and community organizers.

Instead we have John McCain his ilk simply looking at them as potential voter blocks and pandering to the basest instincts and treating them as chattel just as the Left does.

Maquis on April 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM

My brother lives in AZ now as I did 30 years ago. He is a construction crew chief and only hired illegals for years.

But when the economy started tanking they went first then AZ made it almost impossible to hire illegals. This was bad for his children trying to get jobs as schoolteachers now. So many illegals moved out the schools are closing schoolhouses.

I so wish the nation would do what AZ did. What is Obama thinking we are losing jobs illegal fill millions but not one thought of letting Americans work. WallMart here used to hire all illegals to polish the floors they got raided. Now Americans buff the floors. So don’t sell that crap that these are jobs Americans don’t desperately want they do. The meat plants also had little problems finding American Workers.

Steveangell on April 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I really feel bad for McCain. He thought that appeasing “moderate liberals” would win him the election. He got in friendly with the press, he cozy’d up to illegals, he took a few shots at Bush.

Before running against Obama, McCain was the favorite of liberals everywhere.

What did it get him? When it counted, nothing.

It’s the same with Obama in Europe.

hawksruleva on April 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM

A noble and virtuous state should never be afraid of pursuing its own interests, because putting the interests of other states first never earns you anything except resentment at best, and predatory contempt for your weakness at worst. The lack of self-confidence at the heart of liberalism – even the liberal tendencies of an unquestionably patriotic man like McCain – always seems to lead to these disasters in foreign policy, including immigration policy.

Instead of having the confidence that what’s best for America and her citizens is also what is best for the free people of the world, not to mention that the welfare of American citizens should be the primary concern of an American politician, we get this kind of gooey “citizen of the world” weakness. Virtually every aspect of liberal foreign policy, which includes the beliefs of no few Republicans, is based on the assumption that America is either villianous or morally suspect. It’s just wrong for us to pursue our own self-interest, or attempt to control who gets to become American. Perhaps it’s a timidity that came over the West after the nationalistic chauvinism of the Axis powers plunged the world into such awful carnage, or it comes from the thick syrup of multiculturalism that almost all Americans are marinated in during their public school years.

Somehow this mindset leads a man of immense personal courage like McCain to act faintly embarrassed that he must consider the wishes of his constituents when discussing foreign policy, while Obama hits the G20 like an abusive husband buying trillion-dollar gifts to make his battered wife Europe stop crying.

Doctor Zero on April 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM

He was over the top. In some cases, he rolled his eyes a lot. There were portions of the meeting where he was just staring at the ceiling, and he wasn’t even listening to us. We came out of the meeting really upset

Rolling your eyes and being bored counts as “over the top?”

Lehosh on April 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM

There are people on ABC’s site all the time that have no idea that Republicans brought about 90% of the freedoms that African-Americans have in this country. I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama himself fit into that category.

The ultimate irony is that Barack Obama doesn’t give a shit about the freedoms that African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, or more correctly, any Americans, have in this country.

hillbillyjim on April 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM

MB4 on April 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM

“A suckling pig of a burro”???

Buford Gooch on April 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Obviously Obama isn’t handling it well, but I have little faith McCain would have been much better on the economy.

Do you really imagine that McCain would be proposing a massive expansion of the public sector, while promising yearly $1 T deficits forever, accompanied by yearly $1 T debt servicing?

Even if he would have been an improvement, it would only seem an improvement knowing what we do about how Obama has handled it, a benefit we only get with Obama in power.

All things considered – the public turning on Republicans esp. the President, the exhaustion of the conservative movement as shown among other things by its inability to produce its own credible candidate, the timing of the financial meltdown – McCain never had a chance anyway. We now have the strength of our weakness on ourside: No reason not to be unified opposing Obama’s psychotic program, and to delineate our own positive program in the mirror.

CK MacLeod on April 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM

“I just don’t want you to get misled by someone who is trying to screw McCain here, frankly, because he doesn’t deserve it,” Martinez added.

Oh, I beg to differ.

He deserves it.

cs89 on April 3, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Here is the truth: the illegals will vote for the party who promises them the most. This is also true with other ethnic groups.

Repubs, by nature, are basically against hand-outs.

Our only hope is the hard-working Democrats getting tired of paying for all of the hand-outs to others that they are paying for. It will happen.

stenwin77 on April 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM

If McCain had won, this country would have a negative unemployment rate due to all the lefties who moved to Canada.

Speedwagon82 on April 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM

If they don’t like either party’s candidate, they can always go back to Mexico!

Christian Conservative on April 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM

You prefer the guy who wanted to stay on the campaign trail and leave it all in the able hands of Nancy, Harry, and Bwarnwey?

Y-not on April 3, 2009 at 3:42 PM

When that’s what McCain voted for – a bill made by the able hands of Nancy, Harry and Fwank with no notable contribution by McCain, yeah!

Because it made McCain look like a going off half cocked pandering goof 3 weeks before the election!

Skywise on April 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM

illegal immigration is a great case study on why being Dem lite for REP does not work. There is no way to go to the left of everyone in for free. No borders folks. therefore by going left you open yourself up to attacks from your base and from those that think differently. The dems own the high ground on open borders. The only way to attack that position is thru nationalism and I don’t mean that as a bad word. If the Rep would have stood up for the americian way, the rule of law and order, that those that waited in line got first crack instead of throwing in with the lawbreakers and internationalists they could have made immigration an issue. Ever wonder why immigration wasn’t an issue because the elites didn’t want it to be in the election. No questions asked about it, no speeches given on it. shame really the reps in there drive for the lowest wages lost a large amount of votes.

unseen on April 3, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Or the GAY vote, I might add, Ed. I made my bed with Hillary, and when it came down to McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden, I threw my lot in with the economic/national defense principles I believed in, rather than the socio-identity politics pandering of Obama.

lansing quaker on April 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM

No such thing. The truth is that it is the votes of those who want society’s approval of sodomy.

In any event, next time it would be nice if you would just throw yourself down the nearest waterfall.

platypus on April 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Charming! <3

The next time I visit the nearest waterfall, I’ll be sure to do just that. I succumb to peer pressure, after all; I mean, that’s how I became gay. :(

lansing quaker on April 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Like Rush Limbaugh said, conservatism didn’t lose in 2008, it just wasn’t on the ballot.

Crusty on April 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM

right2bright on April 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM

You are so totally right on!. The shame of it is that if you try to tell these people this, they call you racist, and say you are a hater, and then it takes another 50 years for them to wise up. Of course, the blacks still haven’t reached that stage yet, but I am floored at the Jews, since I am one. How stupid can we be?…..*sigh*

clinker46 on April 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I feel sorry for Cindy – she deserves a boyfriend.

capitulus on April 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM

I’d be happy to oblige. I like MILFs. Even some GILFs.

And she’s way hotter than her daughter.

UltimateBob on April 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM

This is why I still don’t understand the “we need a bigger tent” mantra from a certain blogger here, Ace, Patterico and their ilk. Granted I love all 3 of them but da*n, isn’t that what McCain tried and where did that get him?

Isn’t the position of the “bigger tent” nudniks that the tent would have been full if not for Governor Palin scaring them all off by not aborting Trig when she should have?

Kensington on April 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM

McCain actually showed courage in trying to work on immigration reform (whatever you thought on the matter it took balls to buck his party that way) and took a drubbing from his base and party for it.
. . . .
McCain did and has always voted his conscience.

Zaggs on April 3, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Hahaha. Yeah, Republicans sure showed McCain by giving him the presidential nomination. That’ll teach him!

McCain is a politician. He votes what he perceives to be in his own best interests to get re-elected. Arizona is a fairly conservative state, and McCain voters here want and expect him to oppose wasteful garbage like earmarks. But McCain voted for amnesty because he believed he would need a large percentage of hispanic votes to win the presidency, not because he believes that amnesty is in AZ’s, or the country’s, best interests. And he voted for the TARP nonsense because he believed that it would temporarily stave off a financial melt-down that would endanger his presidential candidacy, not because he believed it was responsible or prudent fiscal policy for the nation.

As for his reported anger with hispanic advocacy groups, I can only echo other commenters here: reap what you sow, McCain.

AZCoyote on April 3, 2009 at 4:20 PM

stenwin77 on April 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I wish I could agree with you on that, but unfortunately no way. Let’s face it, the Rep are accused of being the ‘rich’ people, but most of your wealth is in the liberal dems pockets, (athletes, entertainers, politicians) and they will never get tired of giving the poor money they steal from the orking middle class. You don’t think they will give up their wealth, do ya!! Not a snowballs chance in hell.

clinker46 on April 3, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Well, Senator, this is what you get when you kowtow to a special interest group instead of living by the US Constitution. Next time, do the right thing and follow the US Constution.

Sxyrzrbck on April 3, 2009 at 4:22 PM

The ultimate irony is that Barack Obama doesn’t give a shit about the freedoms that African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, or more correctly, any Americans, have in this country.

Why would he? Obama is Muslim and he sure cares about muslims he pays only the greatest respect to their kings while dissing everyone else. I hate it when people do two hand handshakes or send gifts of friendship back to me even worse when their wives hug me like they somehow know me. To do this to a Queen and head of state pitifully only something a tin head dictator would do. Even worse cheesy DVD’s from discount racks that only make good coasters as a state “gift” (slap in the face).

Steveangell on April 3, 2009 at 4:24 PM

lansing quaker on April 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM

In any event, next time it would be nice if you would just throw yourself down the nearest waterfall.

platypus on April 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Platypus, lighten up. that was totally uncalled for.

Lansing Quaker, you and every other gay American are more than welcome in the conservative movement! At least, those of us who truly believe in freedom and personal choice will welcome you.

I am not gay but I do not judge people who are.

UltimateBob on April 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

platypus on April 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Ed or Allah, please ban this poster. This is an order of magnitude more vile than any slams on Michelle or Sarah.

hillbillyjim on April 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

The next time I visit the nearest waterfall, I’ll be sure to do just that. I succumb to peer pressure, after all; I mean, that’s how I became gay. :(

lansing quaker on April 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM

LOL. Made my day.

Lehosh on April 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

What I find most shocking is that the Strom Thurmond room has not been re-named the Martin Luther King Jr. room.

ExcessivelyDiverted on April 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Steveangell on April 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM

What happened in AZ is almost completely due to Sherriff Joe’s insistance on inforcing the law. With no support from John McCain. Joe went to NH to campaign against him. But now the his arch enemy Janet N. is in the Obama administration the feds are coming after Joe big time. Democrats are determined to ruin this country from every possibile direction.

petunia on April 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

It will be the votes of white and black liberals that turns our entire southwest over to Mexico and makes us a third world country.

Star20 on April 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

McCain is pandering now to conservatives. Please, J.D. Hayworth, run against McLame. I’ve had enough of this guy. Always sticking his finger in the wind to see which way he’ll go. McCain knows we want him out, so he results into giving us a bone. However, we’re not falling for it.

jencab on April 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM

You think JD could really win statewide? He couldn’t even win North Scottsdale against a Dem last time. I occasionally listen to JD on the radio… he’s okay but he’s no deep thinker. Pretty knee jerk on most things. And talk about bluster! But of course if it’s him or a Dem. (Who I don’t care how moderate they sound at this point) I go for JD. He came in with Gingrich bunch I think. The contract with America Repubs.

petunia on April 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Rolling your eyes and being bored counts as “over the top?”

Lehosh on April 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM

When you are used to politicians pandering to your requests, it does.

Right_of_Attila on April 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Democrats are determined to ruin this country from every possibile direction.

They started by infiltrating out party. I thought it was great when they were switching to GOP from DNC now I know it was just part of their plan for our destruction. Now conservatives biggest enemies are in our “own” party. Snow, Spector, McCain etc. have come oh so close to killing this party. It is time to throw the bums out or start a real Republican Party.

Not only would the signers of the Declaration of Independence disapprove of what the Iowa SC did they would round up the gays and hang them that is what they did then. After all they believed in the Bible. We are so far away from that now I truly fear for our Republic.

Steveangell on April 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

As for his reported anger with hispanic advocacy groups, I can only echo other commenters here: reap what you sow, McCain.

AZCoyote on April 3, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Here here.

I do hope for a time when McCain is out of office that I can get back that respect for his war service that I used to have when hearing his name.

petunia on April 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Oh by the way I decided I like to see my congressman. John Shadegg run for McCain’s seat. He is very statesmanlike and is pretty good on all issues.

But someone else here suggested Jeff Flake and he’s been pretty stalwart going after corruption in the house.

Come to think of it… I wonder what McCain would be like as governer? Nah…. no military that’s always his strength. The hum drum of state government is probably beyond him. He’d probably make a deal “across the isle” with Mexico that would leave us in some kind of bind. NOt to mention give California more than their half of the water in the Colorado.

petunia on April 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM

I don’t agree that McCain thought Hispanics would flock to him because of his actual pro-immigration policy.

I don’t think McCain was at all surprised that they did not.

I do think he’s bopping them on the head.

AnninCA on April 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Steveangell on April 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Do you know Iowa politics? My sister lives there and is really conservative but I don’t think her husband is… we don’t really speak politics.

Is Iowa likely to pass a constitutional admendment like California? I bet it is harder there. California laws are so fleeting…

petunia on April 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

he got humiliated by the failure of his argument in November.

Was he humiliated by the failure of his argument or by its success?

unclesmrgol on April 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM

McCain sold his soul on the immigraion issue via Juan Hernandez. Obviously Juan couldn’t deliver the Hispanic vote and now he’s pissed?

moxie_neanderthal on April 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Feh…Juan Hernandez couldn’t deliver a pizza. He’d just smile his cheesy, asinine smile and make excuses…in the process, using up more energy than it would take to do the job in the first place.

James on April 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Doctor Zero on April 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Look, he only hits her because he loves her so. CAN’T YOU SEE THAT?!?

TheUnrepentantGeek on April 3, 2009 at 4:57 PM

AnninCA on April 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Well, that comment made absolutely no sense.

chunderroad on April 3, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Steveangell on April 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Exactly where are the school closings occurring in AZ? Inner city crime districts? School districts normally project expected growth patterns and build in advance to meet anticipated populations during boom years. Even if these schools temporarily are used for offices or civic centers, they’ll be there ready when the growth returns. And it will. It always has since the 1960s; but now that California is bust, and NY as well, I’ll bet it’s hell in Phx. most of the year–a worse hell than ever. The REAL problem with the desert Southwest is the limited water supply for the overpopulation immigrating into the Phoenix Valley of the Sun, with or without Snowbirds and illegal aliens compounding every difficulty. Even if the economy were booming to bust again, there’s just not enough water to sustain that huge population.

So far as legislation is concerned, regarding the 1960′s leftist inspired guilt complex requiring liberal governmental expenditures for non-citizens “because we are a generous people”–the USA has encumbered too many loose straws, and Camelback is broke.

Until we rescind liberal legislation and CUT EVERYONE’S TAXES, we keep cutting our own throat with each new bail-out, as if we’re the golden goose committing suicide in order to please a down-right mean UN, EU, and whoever else is dog-piling on the golden egg grab-bag.

maverick muse on April 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Was he humiliated by the failure of his argument or by its success?

unclesmrgol

Aha!

maverick muse on April 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Is Compassionate Conservatism finally dead?

If the Reps want a big tent, how about they take a look at all the people going to the Tea Parties. They just might succeed if they built a big tent full of people who believe in individual liberty and small government.

PattyJ on April 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM

As one of those Jews outside the 78%, let me just say that Jews would give the man about the same vote if the election were held today. Very few eyes have been opened.

To quote myself: James Baker said, “F*** ‘em, they don’t vote for us. Obama is saying, “F*** ‘em, they do vote for us.”

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 3, 2009 at 5:09 PM

jencab on April 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I swear JD gets asked to run at least once a day on his radio show. He won’t do it, I’m not sure why, but he’s pretty steadfast in his refusal.

Another one to watch in AZ though is Rep. Flake.

koz on April 3, 2009 at 5:20 PM

What I find most shocking is that the Strom Thurmond room has not been re-named the Martin Luther King Jr. room.

ExcessivelyDiverted on April 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

I believe this room was so named because it was built by slaves owned by the Sen Thurmond’s family.

The Race Card on April 3, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Only now after it’s all over does he understand.

Vegi on April 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Or as the Emperor would have said before dispatching McCain, “Old fool… Only now, at the end, do you understand.”

keep the change on April 3, 2009 at 5:20 PM

A President that has a ‘temper’ is exactly what this country needed. Instill fear! Never ‘bow down’ to your enemies! I’m investing in K-Y Jelly, although I’m thinking Hussein’s hind-end is large enough to accomdate any and all cummers.

JoeySlippers on April 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Karma is a stone cold bitch. A moment of humor to brighten my day.

echosyst on April 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Like others have said here, just add the Hispanics to rest of the voters who have been left in the dust. The supposed best and brightest got duped by Obama. Get in line.

jcheney on April 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM

All I can say is “Grassyass a me go!”

RalphyBoy on April 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM

As much as I disagree with McCain, and as much as he brought this on himself, it’s about time someone told these pressure groups to f*ck off.

ddrintn on April 3, 2009 at 5:38 PM

I’m sorry, but every time I read a story with Anonymous sources. ..I can’t take it as a real story.
It’s just fiction.

bridgetown on April 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM

That McCain rage. I wonder how many times he called his portly daughter a “rude, thoughtless little pig.”

EMD on April 3, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

SouthernGent on April 3, 2009 at 5:58 PM

He’s a disgrace.

MadisonConservative on April 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM

LOL, compared to the guy who beat him in November 2008?

Can I have some of your tequila?

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2009 at 6:01 PM

McCain fought with his own party countrymen to do so, and most of them abandoned him for Obama.

DwnSouthJukin on April 3, 2009 at 6:08 PM

“Here is the truth: the illegals will vote for the party who promises them the most. This is also true with other ethnic groups.”

And illegals are allowed to vote why? This is utterly insane!

GFW on April 3, 2009 at 6:47 PM

I wish this version of John McCain had run for office. The awkwardly-smiling, make-nice John McCain didn’t have much marketability. People can get behind a guy who’s pissed off.

Blacklake on April 3, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Isn’t the position of the “bigger tent” nudniks that the tent would have been full if not for Governor Palin scaring them all off by not aborting Trig when she should have?

The “bigger tent” nudniks were scared off when McCain made his entire early campaign about Obama’s lack of experience and picking a VP with comparable experience to Obama.

Speedwagon82 on April 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Once again, trying to out-dem the dems only results in failure. If one must lose, lose by sticking to principle rather than aping the other guy. I’d like to think McCain, and the “big-tent” types learned their lesson with this as exhibit A but I know that is not the case.

Grayson on April 3, 2009 at 7:33 PM

OH NOEZ! He rolled his eyes and stared at the ceiling

These people have never raised middle schoolers, I’d guess.

funky chicken on April 3, 2009 at 7:41 PM

platypus on April 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Ed or Allah, please ban this poster. This is an order of magnitude more vile than any slams on Michelle or Sarah.

hillbillyjim on April 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

You have to wear your brown shirt when you make this request. Everyone is allowed an opinion, including platypus. You may not like it, it may sting, but this is still America and we still have the first amendment. For now.

HornetSting on April 3, 2009 at 8:21 PM

In one simple paragraph Ed explains why the past RNC strategy of running ‘moderates’ who propose ‘Democrat-Lite’ campaigns are doomed to failure.

Pay close attention.

Don’t miss it:

I don’t have much sympathy for McCain on his immigration policies. McCain thought that Hispanics would flock to his banner based on his embrace of most of their agenda. In the end, though, McCain and Barack Obama wound up at just about the same policy on immigration, making it a wash in the presidential election.

Nice going Ed.

manofaiki on April 3, 2009 at 8:47 PM

McCain is finished in national politics. He ran a lousy campaign, owes most of the support he got to picking Palin, much to the chagrin of most of his handlers. Now he continues to humiliate himself. Guys like this should stick to celebrity golf tours or some other equally innocuous activity.

It’s sad that a man who distinguished himself in the uniformed service of his country should end his life this way.

Really sad.

manwithblackhat on April 3, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Hispanics instead overwhelmingly supported Obama over McCain, 67%-31%, an even worse drubbing than George Bush got in either election.

Of course, they wanted free stuff, too.

Blake on April 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM

I’ve had enough of this guy.

The next couple of cycles are the time to start getting rid of this dead wood. McCain and Specter are two primo candidates to shove out the back door.

seanrobins on April 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM

The Hispanic vote is way, way, way over rated. And by pandering to them it drives other groups away. Much more than the few percentage points or so that would be gained by getting 30-40% of the Hispanic vote. This was the destructive strategy of Bush43/Rove. It resulted in the present diminished state of the GOP. A strategy of Pandering to any group will not work. Karl Rove may be the architect but he’s the architect of a losing game plan, to be sure. McCain and the GOP followed that and, well, here we are. Sadly, nothing has changed within the Party so far. We’re still on the a downward spiral and it is mostly because of this one issue. DD

Darvin Dowdy on April 4, 2009 at 12:22 AM

78% of the Jewish Vote

It is my understanding that 78% of the Jewish vote in the United States support the Palestinians against Israel.

It is only the Republicans who support a strong Israel.

slp on April 4, 2009 at 3:06 AM

A strategy of Pandering to any group will not work. Karl Rove may be the architect but he’s the architect of a losing game plan, to be sure. McCain and the GOP followed that and, well, here we are. Sadly, nothing has changed within the Party so far. We’re still on the a downward spiral and it is mostly because of this one issue. DD

Darvin Dowdy on April 4, 2009 at 12:22 AM

@DD, You are correct. The reason the Rove strategy worked, was because it was new and caught an already disorganized democrat party off guard. You can’t keep going back to the same battle plan over and over again. The enemy adapts. Not to diminish the brilliance of Mr. Rove or his plans, but he is guilty failing one the Art of War’s tenets:
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“Do not repeat the tactics which have gained
you one victory, but let your methods be regulated
by the infinite variety of circumstances.”

JeffVader on April 4, 2009 at 3:10 AM

Most will vote for whoever gives them the most and requires the least amount of effort on their part.

In that regard, they are just like most Americans.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 4, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Most will vote for whoever gives them the most and requires the least amount of effort on their part.

In that regard, they are just like most Americans.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 4, 2009 at 9:28 AM

You mean Europeans, don’t you?

RealDemocrat on April 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Latinos in blue states will perenially vote for democrats, although that party’s immigration policy is overall indistinguishable from the GOP. Dems gain their favor by knocking down strawman portrayal of GOP as the “raid by night and deport by bus” party. But honestly, even Califronia voters will vote against outright amnesty and driver’s license to illegals.

Winning outright minority support is a pipe dream for the GOP. But you can still win by maybe raising Latino support to around 35-40%, and gain back defectors to Obama who acted out in momentary anger.

Mad Kimchi on April 4, 2009 at 6:42 PM

McCain and Obama were NOT the same on immigration. Obama never said what McCain did — that the defeat of the Bush supported effort at comprehensive immigration reform was due to the American people’s insistence that law enforcement come first, that any immigration law reform had to have effective law enforcement and that the problem with the Reagan-era immigration reorm was that law enforcement did not happen.

I can understand McCain being angry with Hispanics and Jews. Both groups voted overwhelmingly for Obama. Both should have voted for McCain. If Hispanics and Jews are now unhappy (and they should be), they have themselves to blame.

Note that if the United States had the demographics as existed in 1992 and the different gropus voted in the same percentages between McCain and Obama, McCain would have won.

Phil Byler on April 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

You can try to knock McCain for his temper. But what temper he has is the consequence of a high degree of intelligence and high personal standards.

Phil Byler on April 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM

As an Arizonan myself, my belief is that had McCain been less Phil Gordon and more JD Hayworth and Jeff Flake, he could have won the election.

Ps. You’d better learn to live with those (Illegal!) immigration activists being really upset with you John.

http://www.firecoalition.com/article/index.asp?type=announce&id=111

They Have!

Teddy on April 4, 2009 at 10:26 PM

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