Can Tedisco pull this out?
posted at 1:32 pm on April 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Jim Tedisco has taken the lead in the NY-20 special election … without a single ballot being recounted. The correction of tabulation errors shifted what had been a 65-vote lead for Democrat Scott Murphy to a 12-vote lead for the Republican looking to take one House seat out of the Democratic column:
Now it’s Tedisco by 12!
As voting machines are re-canvassed, Assembly Minority Leader Jim Tedisco has picked up 37 votes, evaporating Democrat Scott Murphy’s lead in the race to replace Kirsten Gillibrand in Congress, according to county election officials who are conducting a recanvass.
This means that the race is really still a dead heat, just as it was on Wednesday morning. With over 6,000 absentee ballots unopened, the only thing one can say about a 12-vote gap is that it’s better to be ahead than behind at this stage, but not by much.
What about the absentee ballots, though? Jen Rubin looks at the numbers and sees promise for Tedisco:
According to absentee-ballot numbers I received last night: in Warren, Republicans returned 569 of 764 ballots while Democrats returned only 316 of 437, with 113 of 205 “other” ballots returned. I suppose the Democrat could pick up votes, but he’d have to overcome a tremendous differential in party identification of the returned absentee ballots — 569 vs. 316, or 57% vs. 31%. … Likewise in Washington, where the Democrats’ projection is a pick up of 70 votes, Tedisco has an advantage of 315 vs. 187 in returned absentee ballots (62% vs. 37%). …
Columbia is a more plausible source of votes for Murphy, who enjoys an advantage of 472 to 242 returned ballots over Republicans, and who won that county 56-44%. But aside from a tiny margin in Duchess County, Columbia is the only county where Democrats enjoy an advantage in the percentage of returned absentees or the total absentee ballots sent out.
But the real kicker is in Saratoga. The latest figures there were 1,731 ballots returned, 922 of which were Republican and 502 Democratic (53% vs. 29%), with the remainder “other .” That is a very big chunk of the absentees, about one third. Tedisco won that county by a 54-46% margin.
A generation ago, Republicans had a clear advantage in absentee ballots. Since then, Democrats have specifically organized for absentee voting and had taken the presumed edge. These numbers indicate that the Tedisco campaign, somewhat maligned for blowing a double-digit lead in this race, may have outhustled Democrats on absentee balloting. If Jen’s numbers hold up, Tedisco has a pretty clear advantage on party response, and in this race, that will probably prove decisive.
Jazz Shaw notes, though, that the district hasn’t exactly broken along party lines for a few election cycles:
I’ve done some radio segments with Jennifer and can tell you that she’s a smart, thoughtful political analyst. The numbers she quotes still don’t give us a definitive answer, but are of interest anyway. The uncertainty factor comes from the fact that not all of those “Republican” ballots will necessarily go for Tedisco. The district as a whole still has a 70,000 registration advantage for Republicans, but Kirsten Gillibrand carried it twice and President Obama carried it as well. They haven’t been voting straight party line for a few years.
Jazz does think that party identification played a bigger part in this election, and he watched this race very carefully. The absentee ballot numbers certainly show that Tedisco’s campaign did something right, and I’d predict that party identification influences absentee ballots to a greater degree than precinct voting. We’ll soon see.










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It’s funny how much attention is being paid to a campaign whose outcome affects nothing.
One more R vote really doesn’t help much in the House.
/still hoping Te disco duck pulls it out.
Abby Adams on April 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM
I bet there are quite a few car trunks being searched for ballots as we speak.
Vashta.Nerada on April 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM
12 votes are notin’ ACORN can make that up in one court appearance.
petunia on April 3, 2009 at 1:37 PM
It does effect moral in the ranks.
petunia on April 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM
It’s supposedly a test of how well a Dem does now without Barack’s coattails.
Wethal on April 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM
meh. hes still a new york republican, which means at the end of the day he’s still in the pocket of the unions.
ernesto on April 3, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Every little bit helps.
But I’m sure ACORN votes will magically appear before long.
Badger40 on April 3, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Obviously, since Tedisco is ahead, there was voter suppression and intimidation, and all those other crazy things that Evil Republicans do to steal every election they can. Of course, that wouldn’t be an issue if Murphy was ahead.
JamesLee on April 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM
The GOP wins in 1993 in the N.Y. and L.A. mayoral races and the N.J. and Virginia governors’ races were harbingers for what happened in 1994 (none of those were congressional sets, but three of the four Republican wins came in areas normally controlled by Democrats, but in a time where the Democrats controlled all levels of government, and had no Republicans in office to blame when the public got angry with their policies).
jon1979 on April 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM
If it’s not close, they can’t cheat. Unfortunately …
OhioCoastie on April 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Did Spitzer, Hillary, and Schumer win this county? If so, it is not Republican.
Speedwagon82 on April 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM
And then there’s this about the military votes. Don’t know if it got linked here yesterday.
MamaAJ on April 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Tedisco will win this easily based on the outstanding absentee votes, his margin of victory will only increase.
The GOP has won every single congressional election since November: Georgia Senate Run-off (Huge win); Jefferson’s old seat in LA (Yao won huge upset) and now Tedisco wins a seat held by the Democrats and which they won by a 20% margin back in November.
Also, we’re leading in govenor race in NJ to take place this fall, several Democrat Senate incumbants are looking really vulnerable (Dodd to name one) for 2010. Things are defintely looking up.
Norwegian on April 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM
I love the outraged emails the DSCC is sending out – amazed at the suggestion that the democrats might be trying to steal this election. As if it is perfectly normal to find ballots in trunks and glove compartments and closets…
ctmom on April 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM
This is why I’ll NEVER use an absentee ballot.
DannoJyd on April 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Also, we’re leading in govenor race in NJ to take place this fall, several Democrat Senate incumbants are looking really vulnerable (Dodd to name one) for 2010. Things are defintely looking up.
Norwegian
You remind me of manlyrash. That’s a compliment, BTW.
SKYFOX on April 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Next thing the Democrats will try is to apply ‘Card Check’ to our voting. When you cast your vote, a big neon sign will show how you voted.
This will allow the goons to ‘personally thank you’ for your vote.
Uniblogger on April 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM
i don’t vote absentee anymore unless its really an unusual circumstance. besides, my polling place has no lines, so why would i? to think my vote (one voice among many) would not be counted really peeves me. i hope the military takes notice that their votes weren’t wanted by the NY electoral board.
kelley in virginia on April 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM
I just started using the absentee ballot during the last primary and general elections. I live in a Democratis cess pool and it was so unpleasant having to go stand in line with them, waiting to vote.
But yeah, I may re-think my use of the absentee ballot.
myrenovations on April 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Very much so. Jennifer Rubin’s report provides hope. And given the disaster of the past 10 weeks, we need as much hope as we can get.
Loxodonta on April 3, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Special Report: Al Franken has been called in to assist with the absentee ballot oversight…. stay tuned….
HomeoftheBrave on April 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM
The practical effect if Tedisco pulls this out will be minimal. One more Republican in the House will not make much difference. But the symbolic and political importance is huge.
This is the first election since Hopey/Changey ascended to the Presidency. No matter what happens with the recount, the shift to the Republicans in the past couple of months in this particular district is huge. Obama took this district by something like a 15% margin, and how he can’t get do better for his guy than what is, essentially, a tie.
Of course, if Murphy pulls out a win, it will be hailed as the greatest rout since Teddy Roosevelt charged up San Juan Hill. But if Tedisco wins, it is going to be hard for them to avoid saying that voter sentiment has turned against the Democrats, hard.
gridlock2 on April 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Hey, I thought Tedisco was supposed to admit defeat immediately Tuesday night since the people had spoken and he had obviously lost. Anything else and he would be a sore loser.
Er, well, that is what the piece of filth lefties told us, anyway.
PimFortuynsGhost on April 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Coleman urged Franken to concede on election night because he was ahead at that point. Both sides did the same thing. What’s your point?
tneloms on April 3, 2009 at 2:29 PM
My Guess is that Tedisco wins… The absentee ballots were presumedly mailed weeks prior to the election, when Tedisco held a nice lead in the polls…that, combined with Ed’s info, give Tedisco a bigger bump…but who knows.
joepub on April 3, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Is it just me or does this guy look kinda’ like Fred Barnes?
Y-not on April 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM
tneloms on April 3, 2009 at 2:29 PM
My point is the bottom feeding lefties were indignant that Tedisco hadn’t conceded yet. My point has nothing to do with the Coleman/Tax Cheat election.
Christ, is that difficult to figure out?
PimFortuynsGhost on April 3, 2009 at 2:42 PM
The vast majority of valid absentee ballots are military personnel or businessmen who genuinely can’t be in the state at the time of the election. They’re going to swing about 80% Republican.
So if the numbers come out even, that means 80% of the Democrat absentee ballots are fraudulent.
logis on April 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM
The difference for the Dems in absentees in Columbia County are the votes of weekenders. City liberals who have a second house in the county, but live primarily in the city. For whatever reason they get to vote upstate, even though they do not live there most of the time. I guess they figure their vote is worth more there than in the already leftist stronghold of NYC. Until this little phenomenon began R’s held Columbia County pretty solidly, and a lot of the local seats are still held by Republicans.
Govgirl on April 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM
The red jacket photo makes him look like Mr. Rogers, to me.
myrenovations on April 3, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Little gains here and there.
Wait til Obamas tax increases kick in and people start running out of unemployment- there was a reason the Porkulus added 20+ weeks of compensation.
Not to mention gas and utility bills going up.
Tax your way to victory in 2010, Democrats.
jjshaka on April 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM
That would be excellent. i would LOVE for some of Obama’s goons to show up in my front yard. I know a couple of pigs who would like to have them over for dinner.
Guardian on April 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM
keep chipping away, add this to Cao’s win.(Hopefully)
rob verdi on April 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
The Republican will not win this one simply because they refuse to play dirty. ACORN will come in and the Republicans will give up.
Hal-9000 on April 3, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Hannity is on with Tedisco now and he’s talking about military voter suppression.
Thread?
hawkdriver on April 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM
12 votes? Shoot, Acorn can find that many on the Dallas Cowboys and more!
mauipundit on April 3, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Do you believe? Time to put up.
Donate to the legal fund here.
http://www.jimtedisco.com
hawkdriver on April 3, 2009 at 3:48 PM
And who says “my vote doesn’t count anyway so why bother?”
Big John on April 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Can Tedisco pull this out…
Why yes. Yes he can!
Hawthorne on April 4, 2009 at 4:58 AM