Video: Obama bows to Saudi king?
posted at 2:41 pm on April 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Question mark in the headline because I can’t tell for sure without knowing what words passed between them, but it certainly looks like a bow. Skip ahead to 0:50 and judge for yourself. Like the boss says, whether this is more or less nauseating than Bush holding hands with his pal Abdullah while they went for a garden scroll is immaterial. The fact remains that having to co-exist with the Saudis doesn’t mean having to respect them. When they stop whipping old ladies for having unrelated men in their homes, maybe then we can reconsider observing the niceties of protocol.
If this is a bow, it’s more than Elizabeth got when The One met her yesterday. Maybe if she started beheading people for not practicing the state religion, she’d have received a little more deference. Exit quotation from a 1994 edition of the NYT, contemplating the prospect of Clinton bowing to Japan’s emperor: “Canadians still bow to England’s Queen; so do Australians. Americans shake hands. If not to stand eye-to-eye with royalty, what else were 1776 and all that about?”
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More than just a king, the Saudi monarch is the caretaker of the holiest sites in Islam. So, that puts him far higher in terms of respect and genuflections for Muslims.
I’m just saying…
Not that Obama has anything to do with Islam…
blue13326 on April 2, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Wow, there are trolls here I’ve never seen before.
Axelrod & Co. must have called for all hands on deck. They recognize this as a fire they need to put out.
I guess they weren’t expecting a foreign news service to capture the moment and then have it on YouTube. The caption appears to be Spanish.
INC on April 2, 2009 at 3:45 PM
I can’t bring myself to watch. I’m disgraced as an American
Black Adam on April 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Here they ALL are. Now that is odd!
jeanie on April 2, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Isn’t that somethin’? An Ogabe thread hits the board and they show up like locusts, literally within minutes of one another and with different personaes.
That being said, HA doesn’t seem to be high on the list for the A-Grade troll talent; we get stuck with strangle-it and getaclue.
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Bush bowed to Felipe Calderon and Vicente Fox.
Mark1971 on April 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM
His gift was probably a pre-paid gas card for ten bucks…………
…………….. for Citgo.
Seven Percent Solution on April 2, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I don’t think there are very many A-Grade trolls on the web. They’re busy making policy spins in D.C.
INC on April 2, 2009 at 3:47 PM
U.S. horse races are ran in the opposite direction from England for no other reason than being different from England. Do you realize the hate that must be present in a society to be that petty?
DFCtomm on April 2, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Since this was an elder Muslim male and Bammy’s a younger Muslim male, shouldn’t he have been bending the other way?
I thought it was their custom.
NoDonkey on April 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Ever heard of the 82nd & 101st Airborne Divisions, genius? Run along now.
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM
This trip has just been such an utter embarrassment for America.
The SUGAR plan seems better than ever.
crosspatch on April 2, 2009 at 3:49 PM
I imagine the exchange went something like this:
29Victor on April 2, 2009 at 3:49 PM
:-)
INC on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
What do you expect from foreign outsourced trolls? It’s quantity not quality.
portlandon on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Exactly
Viper1 on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Bush bowed to Felipe Calderon and Vicente Fox.
Mark1971 on April 2, 2009 at 3:46 PM
No, Bush and Fox were sharing a huge laugh about what to the name the new North American Union.
sarc/
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Crap. Screwed up. Forgot to change the names on the last bit.
PIMF
29Victor on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Say Again?
Guardian on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Next he will issue an apology to the Saudi King for us building our buildings so high so as to inspire his subjects to fly airplanes into them.
Long Live King Barry!
GunRunner on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
The President of The United States should not bow to anyone.
jonezee on April 2, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Yep…and sending tea bags in the mail as if it’s a brave protest.
Dark-Star on April 2, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Yeah, we just aren’t as courageous as the lefties such as the guys who were caught planning to molotov the RNC convention in Minneapolis.
Maybe you can give us some pointers on how to bravely light people on fire?
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 3:51 PM
OMG, he really is out of his league. If he’d at least had the wherewithal to hire someone to be in charge of protocol, look at all the gaffes they could have prevented. But nooooo, he thinks he knows it all. Just another example of his narcissism run amok. I wish he’d come home and bowl. That’s more in his league. pun intended.
scalleywag on April 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM
I think I caught a peek of Barry’s labia showing under his dress when he bowed to the Arabic slave-holder.
omnipotent on April 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM
trucks?
sesquipedalian on April 2, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Next he will issue an apology to the Saudi King for us building our buildings so high so as to inspire his subjects to fly airplanes into them.
Long Live King Barry!
GunRunner on April 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM
LOL. Now that’s was funny right there.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 3:53 PM
The State Dept has a Dept of Protocol. I don’t know why they are not being utilized.
bnelson44 on April 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Well, from where I sit, if that wasn’t a bow, then he must have been greeting his royal pecker.
hillbillyjim on April 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Except Zod…..always kneel before Zod.
portlandon on April 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Maybe you can give us some pointers on how to bravely light people on fire?
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Yes sir, the internet tough guys are all over the the place today. Bravely ran away, away.
John D on April 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM
You’re kidding, right? Like you didn’t know exactly what kind of posts you would get on a thread like this? Give us a break.
labwriter on April 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Obama’s soulfully reverent, deep bow may well boost the numbers in what I thought was just a mildly interesting pew survey today right here on headlines at HA. Wait till the evangelicals who still think Obama’s a muslim get a gander at that big ole bendover! Hell, that subservient bow to King Abdullah makes me start to wonder as well. Jeepers! What was he thinking?
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1176/obama-muslim-opinion-not-changed
marybel on April 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM
the U.S. 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions and the the 26th, 95th, and 104th U.S. infantry divisions.
Guardian on April 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM
You owe me a new keyboard. Mine is drenched in Diet Dr. Pepper.
portlandon on April 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM
wow.
herrevery on April 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Maybe if the other dignitaries were wearing halloween costumes he would have bowed to them as well.
yomomma on April 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Best not to double down on this one. You’re simply wrong.
Slublog on April 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I can not believe I live in the most powerful country in the US with a president who hasn’t quite decided what team he is playing for. He may have been kissing up to the King but he just flipped off 50 million Americans.
sherry on April 2, 2009 at 3:58 PM
“Barry Barry quite contrary”
“Bowing to the king of Arabia with much merry”
“Didn’t know that they will hang a fairy.”
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 3:58 PM
operation market garden involved the 1st british paratroopers, not a single american soldier. in fact, americans gave only a “limited priority” to the operation, which made montgomery pretty bitter.
you guys should stop with the historical examples because it’s embarrassing.
sesquipedalian on April 2, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Speaking of embarrassing….where did you learn history? Bill Ayers?
The veterans of the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions would like to have a word with you, as well as the men who served in the various Glider and Field Artillery Battalions.
Get yourself a map and find the cities of Nigmegan, Best, Son and Eindoven. Then see if you can find a clue.
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 3:59 PM
I know a “Freudian Dip” when I see one !
spareadime on April 2, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Barry O wanted to kiss the King’s butt but didn’t get that far. so it looked like a bow.
Steve Z on April 2, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Amateur night at the Apollo.
Scotsman on April 2, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Watch this video and tell me that Obama is not a moslem. He is clearly being obsequious to the king of a moslem state, one in which you find Mecca and Medina.
Next year, Obama will make the Haj and then we’ll all know that Obama is a moslem.
pabarge on April 2, 2009 at 4:00 PM
The Acting Chief of Protocol is Gladys Boluda. During the Bush administration she was Assistant Chief of Protocol with oversight of the Diplomatic Affairs division of the Office of CoP. The term of President Bush’s Chief of Protocol ended on January 20th.
I would imagine they are ignoring anything she says that they don’t like. They may even be keeping her on as a convenient scapegoat if they blunder because then they can always blame Bush.
INC on April 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Because nobody can tell this narcissistic psychopath anything.
Truly frightening.
califcon on April 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Seriously, the media should take partial responsibility for his narcissism gone wild. Who wouldn’t put themselves on a pedestal after two years of being treated like a savior. They’ve gotten tingles up their legs and painted digital halos around his image and gushed over him at every campaign stop. Before they got hold of him he was probably somewhat humble. Well, perhaps not, but I’m sure he was nowhere near as cocky as he is now. Now they’re finding he’s not at all the supreme being they imagined, he’s a mere mortal just like the rest of us. We tried to tell you it weren’t so, msm, (in oh so many ways). You just wouldn’t listen.
scalleywag on April 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Wednesday, September 20, Nijmegan, Holland:
“”Boats ordered by the 82nd Airborne the day before failed to arrive until afternoon, and a hasty daylight assault crossing was ordered. At about 15:00 the 3rd Battalion, 504th PIR, made the crossing in 26 canvas assault boats into well-defended positions. The American unit had no training on the British-made boats. A shortage of paddles required some troopers to paddle the craft with rifle butts. About half the boats survived the crossing under heavy fire; survivors then assaulted across 200 meters (200 yards) of open ground on the far bank and seized the north end of the bridge. German forces withdrew from both ends of the bridge, which was then rushed by Guards tanks and the 2nd Battalion, 505th PIR, securing the bridge after four days of struggle. The costly attack was nicknamed “Little Omaha” in reference to Omaha Beach.“”
Feelin’ pretty stupid right about now, aren’t you?
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM
My apologies if someone already mentioned this, but we should just be glad he bent over facing toward the Saudi King instead of away from him…and be glad he didn’t curtsy.
Barry puts the ass in embarrassment.
Laura in Maryland on April 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Um, sespuipedalian? Heloooooo?? Three major airborne divisions were involved in Operation Market Garden: the British 1st, and our 82nd and 101st.
You ignorant slut.
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Just for sh!ts and grins, Can you point to a place on earth during the 16th,17th and 18th century where things of this nature didn’t happen?
And why do we always hear about how ugly the US was, back before any of our grandfathers were born, but never a word about South and Central America? Genocide and slavery there was on a much larger scale than North america.
oldernwiser on April 2, 2009 at 4:04 PM
I wonder if he even expected this to be on a video. He probably thought any US press there would not report it. If you look, the words in the caption are not English. I believe they’re in Spanish.
INC on April 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM
i was wrong to say “not a single one” – i regret the hyperbole. nonetheless, it was the british paratroopers who did the heaviest fighting at arnhem. it’s disingenuous to say that they “stood with us” in contrast to the arabs.
sesquipedalian on April 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM
If he had bowed facing the other direction and pulled his pants down at the same time I think it would have been appropriate.
sdd on April 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Oh Oh. Did Barack just insult Allah? There is a Sunni fatwa on the matter of bowing.
Buy Danish on April 2, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Um, sespuipedalian? Heloooooo?? Three major airborne divisions were involved in Operation Market Garden: the British 1st, and our 82nd and 101st.
You ignorant slut.
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM
And the pwnage is complete. Leftists should know better than to alight at HA and dare to talk military history.
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 4:06 PM
True, but the colonists didn’t encounter plains indians until after the extermination had started. The coastal and forest tribes didn’t take slaves.
Unfortunately for them, they were deemed to be of little use if they couldn’t be useful slaves.
strangelet on April 2, 2009 at 3:29 PM
By golly the Iriquois league sure did. They also considered the Delawares women and the Cherokee’s as mortal emenies.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Um, sespuipedalian? Heloooooo?? Three major airborne divisions were involved in Operation Market Garden: the British 1st, and our 82nd and 101st.
You ignorant slut.
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM
You know, it will come as quite a shock to my deceased grandpa that he did not, in fact, become KIA along “Hell’s Highway”.
John D on April 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM
They may have done the heaviest fighting at Arnhem, but as has been pointed out, US troops did just a tad at Nigmegan, Best, Son and Eindoven.
Slublog on April 2, 2009 at 4:08 PM
If that wasn’t “standing with us” then what the hell was it?
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Because Obama is overly-pro abortion (Overly because he has legislated doctors to kill babies that survived abortions.) you voted for him?
Are you so sure your womb will not belong to Obama’s State?
New permitted stemcell research will require the harvesting of “wombs” of minority women.
shick on April 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM
If that is true and it probably is, then it is even more horrible. To betray your country under the assumption that nobody will see is despicable.
sherry on April 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM
it’s disingenuous to say that they “stood with us” in contrast to the arabs.
sesquipedalian on April 2, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Oh geez, yeah, you’re right; American and British soldiers were integrated into the second largest airborne operation in history but since they weren’t standing right next to one another on the battlefields it doesn’t count as “standing with us.”
Gawd, can you parse the meaning any thinner?
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Couldn’t resist; I think he “plays for the other team”
oldernwiser on April 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Petty whining? Please. Robert Gibbs – “Oh look, Rush Limbaugh! He want’s the president to fail. Waaahhhh, wahhhhhh…
Cramer & Santelli called Obama a socialist…waahhh, waaahhhhh…”
They apparently know their audience as well. You used to be better than this Shipley. I guess your dear leader isn’t giving you much to work with since you haven’t been commenting as much as you were during the campaign.
JAM on April 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I see now that not only did the trolls attack this thread, they now have us posting about WWII amd abortion. So, with that in mind;
Xerxes is a POS for bowing to the the Saudi Prince. Not my president.
John D on April 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM
GET TEH FLOCK OUT A HERE! That rat bastard! That’s it. This turd has to go!
ronsfi on April 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Poor cons.
Have to manufacture embarrassment because there were none.
The Obamas stole the show and the world loves them.
Bad news for the cons.
He is succeeding, not failing like you want.
getalife on April 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Uh, you moron, Hitler declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor.
Ulster is British. Get over it.
Akzed on April 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM
–To their south, units of the 101st sent to take Best the day before were forced to yield to German counterattacks during the morning. British tanks arriving during the day helped push back the Germans by late afternoon.
–A combined effort to take the Nijmegen bridge was mounted by two companies from the Guards Armoured Division (British) and the 2nd Battalion, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment.
–German forces withdrew from both ends of the bridge, which was then rushed by Guards tanks (British) and the 2nd Battalion, 505th PIR.
Anytime you’re ready to concede defeat, you just let us know.
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Well, that can fall either way–for the Japanese, bowing is like shaking hands, and the distinction is in the depth of the bow. I’m not an expert on the culture, or anything, but I think it would be appropriate for the Prime Minister of Japan and the President of the US to bow equally to each other.
Count to 10 on April 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I see now that not only did the trolls attack this thread, they now have us posting about WWII amd abortion. So, with that in mind;
Xerxes is a POS for bowing to the the Saudi Prince. Not my president.
John D on April 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM
They have to hijack the thread and change the subject so as to deflect from the very obvious that their prez is “not who we thought he was” (with apologies to Dennis Green).
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Allah, please don’t ever ban getalife. He/she/it is way too much fun to laugh at!
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
With effective birth control having been around for 40+ years, the morning after pill for what 10+ years? The womb of the state thing is to me nothing more than a straw dog for those who don’t want to be bothered with taking precautions.
oldernwiser on April 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
This is a very serious breach of protocol, it makes the USA look like we are bought and paid for. It shows everything that is wrong with electing someone as clueless as Obama.
If this event turns out to be factual, the pictue will become iconic.
bnelson44 on April 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM
They have to hijack the thread and change the subject so as to deflect from the very obvious that their prez is “not who we thought he was” (with apologies to Dennis Green).
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Ogabe is exactly who I thought he was, I just didn’t realize he would be so embarrassing.
I didn’t have a big deal with Mrs. B. Hussein Ogabe putting her hand on the queen’s back, but bowing to the Saudi’s is just…wrong.
Bishop on April 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM
all dogs bow to their true master.
jcw46 on April 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM
What I don’t get is yes, I think this buffoon bowed to King Abdullah, but why?
There’s never been a president who is more avowedly anti-oil than Ogabe.
What’s up with that?
(Unless it really is about deferring to Muslim monarchy?)
The Queen’s ancestry goes back centuries, yet they treat her like the help whereas the Saudi “royal” family is only royal because they say so and Ogabe bows to them…
Do the Sauds claim descendency from The Prophet to do so?
And only the goats in the Arabian Desert know if it’s true.
Jenfidel on April 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Like the ones of w kissing him and holding hands.
Talk about embarrassing.
Geez.
getalife on April 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Sesquipedalian is clearly mononeuronic.
OhioCoastie on April 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Motives are less important than outcomes. I don’t know what Xexes’ motive for bowing was, but the outcome is that it makes him appear weak and it disgusts me.
John D on April 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM
I watched the beginning of his little presser today. I couldn’t help but wonder how many people in the world were laughing behind their hands at us for the inept way our president speaks. Maybe on the ones that speak fluent English, and are not socialist drones, but still, it was embarrassing. Yeah, sure, W made up words, but I don’t remember him saying his lines phrase by phrase between “ah”s “eh”s and “um”s.
Count to 10 on April 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM
With effective birth control having been around for 40+ years, the morning after pill for what 10+ years? The womb of the state thing is to me nothing more than a straw dog for those who don’t want to be bothered with taking precautions.
oldernwiser on April 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Bare-backing is the place to be,
no-thrills copulating is the way for me,
glands spreading with the legs so pret-ty,
keep your rubbers and screw responsibili-ty.
(Loved Green Acres)
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Obama bowed, American power died.
omnipotent on April 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM
thrills-frills; oops.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Well since we’re off topic, anyway – Market Garden was more than just Arnhem. Grave was a fight as well. We took over 3,000 casualties.
Monty should be damned grateful that Ike signed off on his craptacular plan in the first place. Even if they didn’t run into the 2nd SS…
Bitter my ass, screw him. Those resources could have been given to the 8th Army and we might have beat the Commies to Berlin.
So yes, American and British troops stood with each other against the Axis.
I may be impartial because my grandfather jumped with the 82nd (4 times).
reaganaut on April 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM
You know, I saw that article and I have seen some over-the-top type behavior as well. But MOSTLY it comes in response to the trolls who visit blogs like this…with the sole purpose of their visit being to taunt or intimidate cons. It’s not just a matter of disagreeing or having an intellectual debate about anything…they’re like street punks or sand kickers. And there seem to be a lot more of them lately than there used to be. Maybe they’re plants. After reading Rove’s article today, I wouldn’t be at all surprised.
scalleywag on April 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM
That is different. W actions were those of an equal. Obama’s action was that of someone who is subserviant towards their lord. We fought a few bloddy wars to make sure we are not under any king.
bnelson44 on April 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Ogabe bowing to Saudi king
View it and weep!
Here’s an even worse view of Zerobama kowtowing to the evil prince!
Jenfidel on April 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM
That *is* a problem, yes, but it’s much more than that. Bowing or curtseying–neither of which Queen Elizabeth got–is also a signal of submission. Several blogs have provided Miss Manners links on this, but any person with some basic understanding of human nature and behavior understands this to indicate some sort of groveling. Obama didn’t just show respect, dude, he indicated his inferior status to the Saudi king.
And it was absolutely sickening to see B.O. *bowing* to the leader of a country that beats old women, imprisons and tortures rape victims, holds American children hostage and marries the girl ones off into what is legalised rape, discriminates against any religion not Islam, shoves girls back into burning buildings for not having their heads covered–the list goes on and on as KSA continues to treat women as perpetual minors/subhumans, and abuse other religions in ways big and small that would get lawsuits slapped on people if the instances were reversed (there and across the world).
I have been growing angrier and angrier at this horse’s ass, but seeing the bow–what signifies much more than respect–simply made me want to explode and throw up at the same time.
When this is over some people are going to need some serious deprogramming.
fireweednectar on April 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I didn’t read the post but I think it’s pretty clear after that international press conference that Obama pretty much worships himself. Whatever other religions he gives lip service too. Well I saw him bow to the head of Islam… And barely nod to the head of the English Church. I would think equal treament would be in order at least. Since the Queen was also in the room.
Clearly the man in ingratiating to everyone. Until he has complete power over the world.
petunia on April 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM
It just goes to show, protocol prep is fleeting, but Madrassa training is forever.
Maquis on April 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Haven’t seen the North Dakota Handmaids Tale bill yet, have you?
Humanlife-at-conception bills make any forms of birthcontrol that cause failure to implant into murder. This bill also criminalizes fertility therapy.
Cryostasised embryos could achieve legal status to be forcibly implanted in a host womb (ie, Womb of the State) before their USE-BY date.
strangelet on April 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM
bnelson44 on April 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Bloddy? Didn’t Bloddy Divac play for the Lakers?
Sorry, I’m just having too much fun. If this thread is going to be hijacked by trolls, then I’m going to have some fun.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on April 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM
scalleywag on April 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM
While they may be entertained and some even compensated for trolling here, it will only backfire in the long run. It does not intimidate me at all.
It just makes me hate them all the more. Not one step back for Xerxes or his supporters.
John D on April 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM
You guys think that’s a bow? You should see grovel before the SOROS!
shick on April 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Ogabe bowing to Saudi king
View it and weep!
Here’s an even worse view of Zerobama kowtowing to the evil prince!
Jenfidel on April 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Sarkozy looking on approvingly… That should be plaster all over the way that pic with Bush was!!! That is just embarrassing.
petunia on April 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM
how many troops did the british and the americans lose at OMG? if the british number is not at least twice as great as the american, i’ll concede. fyi,
the reason i got into this at all was the suggestion that the arabs did not stand with us like the british did, like it’s something else we can blame the arabs for.
sesquipedalian on April 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM
“under tactical command of I Airborne Corps under Lieutenant-General Frederick Browning”
sesquipedalian on April 2, 2009 at 4:32 PM
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