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		<title>By: Democrats REALLY Don't Care For Citizen Involvement &#124; FreedoMedium</title>
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		<title>By: old trooper2</title>
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		<dc:creator>old trooper2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cackcon, You have not read the bills. I have.

&lt;blockquote&gt;*The proposal, House File 807 and Senate Study Bill 1317, would end a practice known as federal deductibility. That means Iowans could no longer subtract what they pay in federal income taxes from their income when figuring their state taxes.

Ending federal deductibility without changing anything else would mean Iowans would pay an estimated $595 million more in taxes. However, Democrats have proposed a plan that would instead lower the state income tax rates and increase certain tax credits to offset the increase.*&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is redistribution of wealth. Now, the folks that would see huge tax increases are Farmers, Small Business Owners, You know, the Productive types that offer jobs, bolster the Rural Economy, that is Main Street Iowa in small towns. I have never been offered a job by someone that didn&#039;t have any money or the ability to generate a product or service of some kind. Small Business keeps Small Town Iowa alive &amp; well between harvests and pay a lot of taxes employ a lot of folks, on small profit margins. They are not AIG Bonus pogues. Iowa Economy 101 for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cackcon, You have not read the bills. I have.</p>
<blockquote><p>*The proposal, House File 807 and Senate Study Bill 1317, would end a practice known as federal deductibility. That means Iowans could no longer subtract what they pay in federal income taxes from their income when figuring their state taxes.</p>
<p>Ending federal deductibility without changing anything else would mean Iowans would pay an estimated $595 million more in taxes. However, Democrats have proposed a plan that would instead lower the state income tax rates and increase certain tax credits to offset the increase.*</p></blockquote>
<p>This is redistribution of wealth. Now, the folks that would see huge tax increases are Farmers, Small Business Owners, You know, the Productive types that offer jobs, bolster the Rural Economy, that is Main Street Iowa in small towns. I have never been offered a job by someone that didn&#8217;t have any money or the ability to generate a product or service of some kind. Small Business keeps Small Town Iowa alive &amp; well between harvests and pay a lot of taxes employ a lot of folks, on small profit margins. They are not AIG Bonus pogues. Iowa Economy 101 for you.</p>
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		<title>By: HalSandro</title>
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		<dc:creator>HalSandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, this is not rare in Iowa. This attitude from Demonocrats goes all the way through local government, and even school boards. When they do not want to hear from the people they shut them out. Trust me there are many of us who want to go after these communists, which is what they are. Unfortunately memory seems to be a problem here and they don’t seem to want to learn, or never learn.

rpercifield on April 1, 2009 at 1:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, Iowans are sheeple.  A few of us bleat about the tax and spend govt we have, but for the most part Iowans don&#039;t put up much of a fight.  The Repub leaders here are about the most spineless you can imagine.

Just an example of how dumb most Iowans are:  I got into a discussion with a democrat over the Porkulus bill, he was against it because it was written by the Republicans and it had way to many tax cuts that we couldn&#039;t afford.  ?? Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, this is not rare in Iowa. This attitude from Demonocrats goes all the way through local government, and even school boards. When they do not want to hear from the people they shut them out. Trust me there are many of us who want to go after these communists, which is what they are. Unfortunately memory seems to be a problem here and they don’t seem to want to learn, or never learn.</p>
<p>rpercifield on April 1, 2009 at 1:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, Iowans are sheeple.  A few of us bleat about the tax and spend govt we have, but for the most part Iowans don&#8217;t put up much of a fight.  The Repub leaders here are about the most spineless you can imagine.</p>
<p>Just an example of how dumb most Iowans are:  I got into a discussion with a democrat over the Porkulus bill, he was against it because it was written by the Republicans and it had way to many tax cuts that we couldn&#8217;t afford.  ?? Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: old trooper2</title>
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		<dc:creator>old trooper2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

What? A Democrat ruling with an iron fist, drowning oout opposition? Oh, this must be April’s Fools Day afterall!

Grafted on April 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just wait. April Fools day for America started when Obama was inaugurated.</description>
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<p>What? A Democrat ruling with an iron fist, drowning oout opposition? Oh, this must be April’s Fools Day afterall!</p>
<p>Grafted on April 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM
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<p>Just wait. April Fools day for America started when Obama was inaugurated.</p>
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		<title>By: kangjie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kangjie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purge iowa from USA then decalre war on them.
This could fix the problem with iowa 
 
If Sarah palin commands it it will thus be so.
Why you ask. 
Because she rocks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purge iowa from USA then decalre war on them.<br />
This could fix the problem with iowa </p>
<p>If Sarah palin commands it it will thus be so.<br />
Why you ask.<br />
Because she rocks</p>
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		<title>By: Grafted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grafted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?  A Democrat ruling with an iron fist, drowning oout opposition?  Oh, this must be April&#039;s Fools Day afterall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  A Democrat ruling with an iron fist, drowning oout opposition?  Oh, this must be April&#8217;s Fools Day afterall!</p>
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		<title>By: old trooper2</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/01/video-iowa-politicians-dont-like-citizen-involvement/comment-page-2/#comment-2049346</link>
		<dc:creator>old trooper2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I could see the sense of placing limitations on such forums, especially given the fact that the same Iowans can go back and express their opinions at the voting booth. States are republics (guaranteed this by the federal constitution, even), so we’re not talking the Ancient Athens public square here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Going to the voting booth after the tax is passed by the rascals that need to be thrown out is after the fact and taxes
once enacted never go away.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I could see the sense of placing limitations on such forums, especially given the fact that the same Iowans can go back and express their opinions at the voting booth. States are republics (guaranteed this by the federal constitution, even), so we’re not talking the Ancient Athens public square here.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Going to the voting booth after the tax is passed by the rascals that need to be thrown out is after the fact and taxes<br />
once enacted never go away.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: chunderroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chunderroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;all Cuda, no commercials&quot; thing is rocking my balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;all Cuda, no commercials&#8221; thing is rocking my balls.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce in NH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce in NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It may be a while before they have to face the voting public for re-election, but don’t expect Iowans to forget this insult.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you kidding? Most will have forgotten all about it by the time the next American Idol episode ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It may be a while before they have to face the voting public for re-election, but don’t expect Iowans to forget this insult.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you kidding? Most will have forgotten all about it by the time the next American Idol episode ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Loxodonta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loxodonta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The alternative is to have fake public meetings, where you let people go on-and-on-and-on, and the same nutcases show up year-after-year-after-year.

Then, you get back to business.

AnninCA on April 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A truly progressive solution could be the Card Check approach. Call it the  Public Hearing Free Choice Act. When you show up at a public hearing, you simply show your voter identification card along with copies of all the ballots showing how you voted in previous elections. Then, it would be so much simpler to remove the threats to public decorum and hold effective public hearings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The alternative is to have fake public meetings, where you let people go on-and-on-and-on, and the same nutcases show up year-after-year-after-year.</p>
<p>Then, you get back to business.</p>
<p>AnninCA on April 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>A truly progressive solution could be the Card Check approach. Call it the  Public Hearing Free Choice Act. When you show up at a public hearing, you simply show your voter identification card along with copies of all the ballots showing how you voted in previous elections. Then, it would be so much simpler to remove the threats to public decorum and hold effective public hearings.</p>
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		<title>By: rpercifield</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpercifield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, this is not rare in Iowa. This attitude from Demonocrats goes all the way through local government, and even school boards. When they do not want to hear from the people they shut them out. Trust me there are many of us who want to go after these communists, which is what they are. Unfortunately memory seems to be a problem here and they don&#039;t seem to want to learn, or never learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, this is not rare in Iowa. This attitude from Demonocrats goes all the way through local government, and even school boards. When they do not want to hear from the people they shut them out. Trust me there are many of us who want to go after these communists, which is what they are. Unfortunately memory seems to be a problem here and they don&#8217;t seem to want to learn, or never learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Charger73</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charger73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, did not know about this until now.  As typical, dimmi&#039;s are trying to raise our taxes.  But this time, I would say they probably pissed off a lot of people doing this.  I know I&#039;m an angry Iowan and will vote to remove any of the idiots from office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, did not know about this until now.  As typical, dimmi&#8217;s are trying to raise our taxes.  But this time, I would say they probably pissed off a lot of people doing this.  I know I&#8217;m an angry Iowan and will vote to remove any of the idiots from office.</p>
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		<title>By: cackcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>cackcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoretically, I&#039;d have to opine that Iowa would not be &quot;taxing taxes&quot; under the proposed plan, as you&#039;ve described it, Ed.  With two taxes applied to a certain income, there would be no rationale for &lt;em&gt;necessarily&lt;/em&gt; applying one of these taxes to what is left over from the other.

If anything, the deduction would appear to &quot;correct&quot; the progressive nature of the federal income tax (although I am not familiar with Iowa&#039;s rates after the deduction is taken).  By contrast, if the federal government were to offer a similar deduction vis-a-vis state income taxes, it would favor those more heavily burdened by their respective states (hmm, California maybe?).

A conservative could hardly favor the latter, of course, since it would produce some awful consequences by incentivizing higher state taxes.  Is the former approach sensible, though?  I suppose it would be, especially since progressive taxation itself is a tragedy, but this has more to do with state-specific policy preferences than with the theoretical elements of taxation.

As far as public meetings go, that is again a state-specific issue to me.  I could see the sense of placing limitations on such forums, especially given the fact that the same Iowans can go back and express their opinions at the voting booth.  States are republics (guaranteed this by the federal constitution, even), so we&#039;re not talking the Ancient Athens public square here.

Go ahead, call me an elitist.  I&#039;d be voting the same as those angry Iowans though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, I&#8217;d have to opine that Iowa would not be &#8220;taxing taxes&#8221; under the proposed plan, as you&#8217;ve described it, Ed.  With two taxes applied to a certain income, there would be no rationale for <em>necessarily</em> applying one of these taxes to what is left over from the other.</p>
<p>If anything, the deduction would appear to &#8220;correct&#8221; the progressive nature of the federal income tax (although I am not familiar with Iowa&#8217;s rates after the deduction is taken).  By contrast, if the federal government were to offer a similar deduction vis-a-vis state income taxes, it would favor those more heavily burdened by their respective states (hmm, California maybe?).</p>
<p>A conservative could hardly favor the latter, of course, since it would produce some awful consequences by incentivizing higher state taxes.  Is the former approach sensible, though?  I suppose it would be, especially since progressive taxation itself is a tragedy, but this has more to do with state-specific policy preferences than with the theoretical elements of taxation.</p>
<p>As far as public meetings go, that is again a state-specific issue to me.  I could see the sense of placing limitations on such forums, especially given the fact that the same Iowans can go back and express their opinions at the voting booth.  States are republics (guaranteed this by the federal constitution, even), so we&#8217;re not talking the Ancient Athens public square here.</p>
<p>Go ahead, call me an elitist.  I&#8217;d be voting the same as those angry Iowans though.</p>
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		<title>By: sheebe</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a few have to log out and get ready for work. You all have a very happy April Fool&#039;s day.  I will be back later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a few have to log out and get ready for work. You all have a very happy April Fool&#8217;s day.  I will be back later.</p>
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		<title>By: sheebe</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, not at all. It’s fun and well, it’s not the worst thing to look at. It could have been Pelosi pictures all day.

myrenovations on April 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be horror for sure. A good April Fools reminder too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, not at all. It’s fun and well, it’s not the worst thing to look at. It could have been Pelosi pictures all day.</p>
<p>myrenovations on April 1, 2009 at 12:10 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be horror for sure. A good April Fools reminder too.</p>
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		<title>By: NoDonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoDonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, Republican leader Kraig Paulsen asked for time to speak, but wasn’t recognized and so he shouted that no one should be escorted out because it was public hearing…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just because it&#039;s a public hearing, doesn&#039;t mean that Democrats have to hear from the public.  

The public&#039;s there to provide an audience for Democrats to lecture to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, Republican leader Kraig Paulsen asked for time to speak, but wasn’t recognized and so he shouted that no one should be escorted out because it was public hearing…</p></blockquote>
<p>Just because it&#8217;s a public hearing, doesn&#8217;t mean that Democrats have to hear from the public.  </p>
<p>The public&#8217;s there to provide an audience for Democrats to lecture to.</p>
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		<title>By: myrenovations</title>
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		<dc:creator>myrenovations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s going to Palin all day isn’t it? Ugh. Lovely April Fool’s day joke. If I were a Palin lover here at Hot Air, I’m not sure if I would be offend or not. 

What’s say you?

Lance Murdock on April 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, not at all.  It&#039;s fun and well, it&#039;s not the worst thing to look at.  It could have been Pelosi pictures all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s going to Palin all day isn’t it? Ugh. Lovely April Fool’s day joke. If I were a Palin lover here at Hot Air, I’m not sure if I would be offend or not. </p>
<p>What’s say you?</p>
<p>Lance Murdock on April 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>No, not at all.  It&#8217;s fun and well, it&#8217;s not the worst thing to look at.  It could have been Pelosi pictures all day.</p>
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		<title>By: carbon_footprint</title>
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		<dc:creator>carbon_footprint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

The first indication that there’s a problem in Iowa is that they elected someone with the last name Fong. Just saying..

pcpower1 on April 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Fong guy was against the taxes so I presume he is a conservative.</description>
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<p>The first indication that there’s a problem in Iowa is that they elected someone with the last name Fong. Just saying..</p>
<p>pcpower1 on April 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM
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<p>The Fong guy was against the taxes so I presume he is a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alternative is to have fake public meetings, where you let people go on-and-on-and-on, and the same nutcases show up year-after-year-after-year.

Then, you get back to business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alternative is to have fake public meetings, where you let people go on-and-on-and-on, and the same nutcases show up year-after-year-after-year.</p>
<p>Then, you get back to business.</p>
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		<title>By: kurtzz3</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurtzz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if you get tired of Iowa&#039;s taxes, you can always come to my state Californ...

ah...heck.  Never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if you get tired of Iowa&#8217;s taxes, you can always come to my state Californ&#8230;</p>
<p>ah&#8230;heck.  Never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: beatcanvas</title>
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		<dc:creator>beatcanvas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update from Iowa: I&#039;m listening to Jan Mickelson (local Des Moines radio) this morning, and the people who attended booed the first speaker after he spoke, but were then quiet and only applauded speakers after that. But the media (surprise!) only reported the boos. Of course.

Also, Republican leader Kraig Paulsen asked for time to speak, but wasn&#039;t recognized and so he shouted that no one should be escorted out because it was public hearing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update from Iowa: I&#8217;m listening to Jan Mickelson (local Des Moines radio) this morning, and the people who attended booed the first speaker after he spoke, but were then quiet and only applauded speakers after that. But the media (surprise!) only reported the boos. Of course.</p>
<p>Also, Republican leader Kraig Paulsen asked for time to speak, but wasn&#8217;t recognized and so he shouted that no one should be escorted out because it was public hearing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pcpower1</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcpower1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first indication that there&#039;s a problem in Iowa is that they elected someone with the last name Fong.  Just saying..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first indication that there&#8217;s a problem in Iowa is that they elected someone with the last name Fong.  Just saying..</p>
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		<title>By: Yoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do remember that and that was not right. He has said cruel statements to many that are on our side. He doesn’t read the words. That is what annoys me. Is some people read what they want to see. Not the words.

sheebe on April 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree that they are a problem and wonder re the limits of tolerance.

OTOH their presence does serve to be a visible reminder of the vile nature of a significant part of the left that we constantly need to confront. It also presents a showcase, for their infantile behavior and true nature, for Conservatives and Independents to view  who elect not to visit such hate sites as DKOS and HuffPo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do remember that and that was not right. He has said cruel statements to many that are on our side. He doesn’t read the words. That is what annoys me. Is some people read what they want to see. Not the words.</p>
<p>sheebe on April 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that they are a problem and wonder re the limits of tolerance.</p>
<p>OTOH their presence does serve to be a visible reminder of the vile nature of a significant part of the left that we constantly need to confront. It also presents a showcase, for their infantile behavior and true nature, for Conservatives and Independents to view  who elect not to visit such hate sites as DKOS and HuffPo.</p>
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		<title>By: carbon_footprint</title>
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		<dc:creator>carbon_footprint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Don’t mind getalife’s blather nor DTMH’s deeply-penetrating political (mega sarc) thoughts…the cheap insults on the other hand from the guy mentioned above…that’s not acceptable at all.

RepubChica on April 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree, this capitulus person just goes from thread to thread making nonsensical, inflammatory comments just to incite turmoil.  That is the definition of a troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don’t mind getalife’s blather nor DTMH’s deeply-penetrating political (mega sarc) thoughts…the cheap insults on the other hand from the guy mentioned above…that’s not acceptable at all.</p>
<p>RepubChica on April 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, this capitulus person just goes from thread to thread making nonsensical, inflammatory comments just to incite turmoil.  That is the definition of a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: RepubChica</title>
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		<dc:creator>RepubChica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;sheebe on April 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t mind getalife&#039;s blather nor DTMH&#039;s deeply-penetrating political (mega sarc) thoughts...the cheap insults on the other hand from the guy mentioned above...that&#039;s not acceptable at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>sheebe on April 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t mind getalife&#8217;s blather nor DTMH&#8217;s deeply-penetrating political (mega sarc) thoughts&#8230;the cheap insults on the other hand from the guy mentioned above&#8230;that&#8217;s not acceptable at all.</p>
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