Great news: Geithner can’t count, either

posted at 12:17 pm on April 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Maybe Tim Geithner didn’t commit tax evasion after all.  Instead, he may just have a problem doing addition and subtraction.  Earlier this week, Geithner assured people that the Treasury had $135 billion left in its TARP fund on ABC’s This Week:

ABC, though, thought that sounded wrong — and they were right. As George Stephanopolous reports, the tax-fumbling Treasury Secretary was just a little off:

On “This Week” Sunday, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told me that there was about $135 billion left in the TARP fund, the government’s financial rescue package. But the Government Accountability Office, a non-partisan federal agency, reports that figure is closer to $32 billion, which is what ABC News and other independent analysts thought.

In other words, Geithner was off by $100 billion dollars. That’s not a rounding error; it’s a gargantuan mistake. Or a lie. Take your pick. It’s like choosing between “tax evasion” and “simple misunderstanding”.

Treasury continues to insist that Geithner had it right. The GAO, they say, are double-counting commitments and “underestimating potential paybacks.” Potential paybacks? That sounds as though the money has already departed, and they’re counting on some of it floating back into the fund. That would make the GAO more likely to be correct, and Geithner more likely to be either wrong or lying.

It has become very obvious that the Obama administration and its Treasury Secretary are floundering on the economy. Not only have they not been able to find staffing for the effort, now they can’t count. How much longer will this go on before Congress demands a change at the top?

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More Palin pics please… That’s all I ask for

Norwegian on April 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Oh well, what’s a few extra hundred billion for the Treasury to print up over the weekend?

amkun on April 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Geithner: “Oops, forgot to carry the one.”

Obama: “I inherited this fuzzy math.”

Snowed In on April 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM

How much longer will this go on before Congress demands a change at the top?

Our Democrat run Congress?

What, are Pelosi and Reid going to claim they have a copyright on incompetence?

They may have a point.

NoDonkey on April 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Little Elf Timmy Geithner is a moron. Too big to fail? No, too dumb to count.

Norwegian on April 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

give him a break, he’s doing the annual compensation reviews of the 171,000 BofA employees, the 276,000 Wells Fargo employees, the CitiBank employees, and all the rest. He’s got a lot on his plate.

gatorboy on April 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Loving April Fools Day with all the Palin pics.

Oh wait, are you calling Palin a fool?

Abby Adams on April 1, 2009 at 12:20 PM

How much longer will this go on before Congress demands a change at the top?

Possibly forever. Remember who the Congressional Leaders and majority are.

kingsjester on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

There was a few ACORN pay-off’s Tim forgot to add in.
Oopsie. Be patient.

Jed1899 on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

In other words, Geithner was off by $100 billion dollars.

Just makes you want to put your right hand over your mouth, pinky finger on top lip, and say, “$100 billion dollars.”

Someone get Intuit in there to makes a sales pitch.

WashJeff on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

I wish we could go back to her speech at the RNC and have a redo of every day after. But we can’t. Get over Palin, people.

lorien1973 on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Is this “Palin day”?

Blaise on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Love the Palin picks!

JellyToast on April 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

OK, I know it’s April Fool’s Day, but… Not every thread has to have a picture of Sarah. Leave her alone!

newton on April 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I love the Cuda pics. Expecially the one of her blowing a kiss.

That’s one hot woman!

UltimateBob on April 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I’ll pick a lie. If Stephanopolous is reporting this, well, wow.

Keith Hennessey had a post up about this yesterday
Is $700 billion enough? Part 3: Secretary Geithner says we have more room:

Last Friday I posted that I thought the Administration had less than $40 B of room remaining in the TARP. The Wall Street Journal reports today that Treasury says “it has about $134.5 billion left in its financial-rescue fund.” Secretary Geithner addressed this question Sunday on This Week with George Stephanopolous.

GEITHNER: George, we have roughly $135 billion left of uncommitted resources. Less is out the door, but in terms of, if you look at what’s not committed yet, it’s roughly, you know, $135 billion.

Can we reconcile the two? If so, how?

Hennessey goes through a lot of number crunching (I’m leaving out most of his post which is worth looking at) and concludes:

So was I wrong last Friday? There are three possibilities:

1. I was wrong.
2. Circumstances changed.
3. While over the past several weeks the Administration has emphasized the size of their new programs, they are now looking for flexibility so they can maximize their chance of avoiding another request of Congress. They know that Congress is in a foul mood about the TARP, and are therefore looking to emphasize this flexibility by stating the largest number they can justify.

I think it’s #3.

INC on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

I humbly bow to the Queen.

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

underestimating potential paybacks

Oh, the Treasury is like those homeowners who agreed to pay $200k for an $80k home on a $40k budget in hopes of making a killing?

Limerick on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

LEAVE SARAH PALIN ALONE!!!!!

/bwaaaaaa

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

I wish we could go back to her speech at the RNC and have a redo of every day after. But we can’t. Get over Palin, people.

Yeah we need that candidate who is error free.

V15J on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

It doesn’t matter that The Messiah and his handlers are riding the country down (like that character in “Dr. Strangelove” that rode the nuke) as long as Michelle wears designer clothes as she exits AF1.

n0doz on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

How much longer will this go on before Congress demands a change at the top?

As long as all the side-shows are successful in their distraction of the american people, this will go on until true patriots rise and take back our nation from these crooks and thieves. If americans would turn off their stupid propoganda machines (TV & entertainment) and step away from the computer addictions, they’d realize what a sham this all is and would do something about it… and no, this doesn’t END with BHO – but the puppet masters running the show.

gatorboy on April 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Is this “Palin day”?

Blaise on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Every day is Palin day as far as I am concerned.

If only the adults were in charge…..

Oh, that’s right…. They are! Getalife says so!

Where’s Del Dolemonte today? :-)

UltimateBob on April 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM

It has become very obvious that the Obama administration and its Treasury Secretary are floundering on the economy

What’s even worse is that Democrats are always about how much money they can steal from the public, so you’d think they’d be on top of basic stuff like remaining balances. I hate to think about what will happen when their first major foreign policy decision comes up. (hint: last year’s Georgia affair)

Though, with the gaffe-twins Joe and Hillary in charge, what could go wrong?

amkun on April 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Million man math made easy! Just happened to think of the spoof Rush used to do with Farrakhan and the Million Man March.

Could this misestimation cause us to get cancer? Just wondering because if this error could cause some major health disaster then maybe it would get some air time and in time in the MSM.

Moronic just does not quite describe this one.

freeus on April 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Maybe Tim Geithner didn’t commit tax evasion after all. Instead, he may just have a problem doing addition and subtraction.

He’s a special, “special” Treasury Secretary.

/sarc

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Sorry in=ink time

freeus on April 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Every time Ed posts a lovely picture of the lovely Sarah Palin, Allahpundit dies a little inside…

Blake on April 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM

OT:

Barney Frank introduces bill to amend the Declaration of Independence. Stain Removal Bill of 2009.

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

The money that Geithener got from the IMF to pay for his taxes and then he didn’t use it to pay for his taxes, that is tax cheating.

But perhaps I can forgive his inability to use Turbo Tax since it is now clear that the man cannot count when it really counts.

myrenovations on April 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

“underestimating potential paybacks.”

That sounds like somebody about to take off for Las Vegas to bet the mortgage money on Black 13.

MB4 on April 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Treasury continues to insist that Geithner had it right.
________________________________
Oh, and that makes us feel so much better. Bald faced liars, and yet Rep. leaders are too spineless to even make some noise much less take some actions.

pcpower1 on April 1, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Every time Ed posts a lovely picture of the lovely Sarah Palin, Allahpundit dies a little inside…

Blake on April 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM

He better watch out or Mrs Ed is going to be taking practice swings with a rolling pin.

Limerick on April 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Now if only we could get some Allahpundit eyewash!!

Mcguyver on April 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Maybe this is that Clinton math they all tried to teach us back in the 90′s where 2+2=5 or something like that?

Does stupid is and stupid does fit?

I would like to nominate my cat to take Little Timmy’s place. He is a real genius compared to these schmucks!

freeus on April 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM

This period will forever be known as the Obama Error

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM

The ‘rats can always impose another bailout on America; when they’ve already spent a few trillion, what’s another trillion or so on top of that? Chump change at this point because we’re already screwed.

Bishop on April 1, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Now if Allahpundit puts up only serious posts with NO pictures of Sarah Palin, that would be the best April Fools Day prank EVER!

Right_of_Attila on April 1, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Geithner is showing that the staff at Treasury fits on the short bus.

Literally and figuratively.

Not that anyone is asking but I’m all for Sarah pix for every post every day.

*tingle*

turfmann on April 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM

I love the Palin Picts

Allah hangover.

Mcguyver on April 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM

But you’ll never hear him on Rush.

Kini on April 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM

This is my favorite day at HotAir. All Sarah, all the time.

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM

This period will forever be known as the Obama Error

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Or, the Dark Ages Changes.

MB4 on April 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

a mere 2 decimal points. What is petty is over reacting on 2 decimal points.

seven on April 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

seven on April 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Depends. Move decimal points two places to the left on your paycheck and gauge your reaction.

Limerick on April 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Sarah Palin

aquaviva on April 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Awesome!

This supposedly “smartest man” and “only man who can save us” from our economic problems

is a Liberal moron who can’t count.

Sounds about right…

catmman on April 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM

I happen to know from personal knowledge that banks like Chase have put their TARP money in an account and like little kids in a back seat have been saying “Can we give it back now? Can we give it back now? Can we give it back now?”

Remember, Paulson pulled all the major banks into a room and said, “You’re not leaving until you sign those agreements in front of you and take this money!”

So, as much as I think this guy is a fumbling, bumbling intellectual with no private sector experience, he’s probably right. They have tens of billions out there that banks took because they were forced to that they have been trying to give back. I’m sure with the threat of having their CEO’s replaced at the whim of the White House because they have that TARP money, they are being even more urgent.

“Can we PLEASE give it back now?”

PastorJon on April 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Obama: “I take full responsibility for this error which was not my fault.”

Matticus Finch on April 1, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Watching Obama pick nominees is like watching an episode of Flava of Love. Do we have any pics of Obama wearing a Viking helmet?

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:37 PM

In other words, Geithner was off by $100 billion dollars. That’s not a rounding error; it’s a gargantuan mistake. Or a lie. Take your pick. It’s like choosing between “tax evasion” and “simple misunderstanding”.

It’s a gargantuan mistake by whose count? We’re spending trillions of dollars like it’s going out of style. $100 billion is peanuts compared to that. Soon, when the stagflation hits, we’ll be paying $100 billion for a house, just like people in Zimbabwe or Venezuela pay tens of thousands of dollars for a newspaper.

Have faith in the Shining Path of Barack Obama, for He is true and wise.

Outlander on April 1, 2009 at 12:38 PM

I can’t be out of money — I still have all these checks!

DrSteve on April 1, 2009 at 12:38 PM

LOL-I bet PopTech is going batsh*t nuts.

More than he already is, I mean.

-Dave

Dave R. on April 1, 2009 at 12:38 PM

I’m late getting on today. Are the Palin pics an April Fools joke?

ErinF on April 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Six Degrees of Palin-Nation:
1. It has become very obvious that the Obama administration and its Treasury Secretary are floundering on the economy.
2. Long John Silver’s uses Alaskan Flounder.
3. Palin is governor of Alaska.

carbon_footprint on April 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

At what point does his ineptitude become criminal?

cannonball on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Are the Palin pics an April Fools joke?

ErinF on April 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Christmas in April.

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Ed, as far as I’m concerned, don’t even bother posting the story and thread at all. Just post Palin pics and i’ll be happy. 2/3 of the comments in every thread are about Palin anyway and that just shows me no one cares about the post, only our Queen Sarah.

Cant wait for Allah to wake up. I wonder how he’ll counter this? Probably post pics of Sanford or something…

davek70 on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Tim is too smart to count.

Christien on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

At what point does his ineptitude become criminal?

cannonball on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Please, please. Be nice to Allah. Give him a chance.

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

You HotAirHeads have it all wrong…

The Sarah wave is a result of the Con-flicker virus. Resistance is futile. Your CPU is ours.

Limerick on April 1, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Palin Rocks!

Firebird on April 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM

At what point does his ineptitude become criminal?

It doesn’t! That’s the beautiful part. He is equally inept with the rest of the administration, so therefore, no retribution will come of it. Inmates running the asylum.

ErinF on April 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Cant wait for Allah to wake up. I wonder how he’ll counter this? Probably post pics of Sanford or something…

davek70 on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Maybe Romney blowing a kiss?

Jindal winking?

Heh.

cs89 on April 1, 2009 at 12:47 PM

At what point does his ineptitude become criminal?

cannonball on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Peter Principle = government.

lorien1973 on April 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Tim is too smart to count.

Christien on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Someone should count him out.

the_nile on April 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Palin quotes:

“We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. They do not exist.”

“I was a queen, and you took away my crown; a wife, and you killed my husband; a mother, and you deprived me of my children. My blood alone remains: take it, but do not make me suffer long.”

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I wish we could go back to her speech at the RNC and have a redo of every day after. But we can’t. Get over Palin, people.

lorien1973 on April 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Amen to that!

I’m reading these fawning Palin comments here today and you all are starting to sound like the moonbats from Kos or the stuff I see posted at the CNN ticker. Has anyone fainted yet from looking at all the Palin pictures?

Get a grip folks!

Knucklehead on April 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM

What? what? I just woke up. Must have fainted.

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:50 PM

I’d believe this was April Fools, if it didn’t seem like every other day since this jackass administration came on.

chunderroad on April 1, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Treasury continues to insist that Geithner had it right.

Last I heard Timbo was about the only guy in the building, with 17 empty offices surrounding him. Of course Treasury thinks Geithner got it right. Treasury IS Geithner!

innominatus on April 1, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Geesh, give the guy a break! He did say “roughly.”

Mr. Bingley on April 1, 2009 at 12:53 PM

For the good of the order, I want to echo something that INC suggests above:

INC on April 1, 2009 at 12:23 PM

A former economic adviser in the Bush Administration (and elsewhere) recently began a blog on the American economy. NRO and others have chatted it up, and it looks good.

For what it’s worth, I’ll offer a link that goes back two parts before the link INC provided (that is, from last Friday)in which Hennessey argues that, contrary to Geithner’s claims, there’s only about $33 billion to $58 billion left, depending on some facts that needed to be fleshed out by the White House.

http://keithhennessey.com/2009/03/27/tarp-math/

I’d submit that he’s worth reading in the future.

BuckeyeSam on April 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Obama is the President for all seasons.

March Madness
April Fool

faraway on April 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM

the Government Accountability Office, a non-partisan federal agency, reports that figure is closer to $32 billion

“closer to”? So they don’t have an exact figure? No one knows? Yikes.

jgapinoy on April 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

More Palin!

Good gravy, that woman’s a looker!

Daddy-O on April 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Barack Obama is President of the United States.

April Fool’s!

Hey, wait a minute…!

profitsbeard on April 1, 2009 at 12:56 PM

We have recalled peanuts and we have recalled pistachios.

Can we recall his nuts?

Yoop on April 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM

So when can we start dinging the Treasury for the overdrafts? Do they get so many a month and after that there is a penalty of $38,000,000 a check? Oh how I wish the whole election last year had been an April Fools joke.

Where is that time machine when you need it?

petunia on April 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM

“That’s not a rounding error; it’s a gargantuan mistake”

Says who?

It’s a rounding error in the obaministration.

notagool on April 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM

How in God’s name would any sane person think that this man was “the only man who could do the job”. Gorillas in captivity with tutors are more impressive.

sherry on April 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM

This is the guy that will be taking over failing banks and other failing corporations, if Congress doesn’t stop him.

“Oopsies…what’s a little 103 billion between friends? Close enough for government work, right? No problem, hot off the presses at the Fed. Or we can raise taxes–no problem, I don’t pay them anyway! Ain’t I a genius?”

/sarc

Steve Z on April 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Six Degrees of Palin-Nation:
1. It has become very obvious that the Obama administration and its Treasury Secretary are floundering on the economy.
2. Long John Silver’s uses Alaskan Flounder.
3. Palin is governor of Alaska.

carbon_footprint on April 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

{{{teehee}}}

Thanks – I needed that.

tru2tx on April 1, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Maybe we could all chip in and buy Geithner a calculator.

petunia on April 1, 2009 at 1:00 PM

We have recalled peanuts and we have recalled pistachios.

Can we recall his nuts?

Yoop on April 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Paging Jesse Jackson…

Steve Z on April 1, 2009 at 1:00 PM

How much longer will this go on before Congress demands a change at the top?

Oh I don’t know… forever?

Mr_Magoo on April 1, 2009 at 1:01 PM

TT Timmy:

its not my fault, its the dam software again.

More Palin, please

james23 on April 1, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Short bus TurboTax Timmy will likely soon blame everything on the floating-point processor flaw in his old Pentium I series desktop computer.

viking01 on April 1, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Another “whatever” moment:

“The head of the TARP oversight committee, Elizabeth Warren, told a congressional panel last week that after handing out $254 billion, the government only got back $176 billion worth of stock.” – February 11, 2009

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29121745

Mr_Magoo on April 1, 2009 at 1:06 PM

BuckeyeSam on April 1, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Thanks for picking that up. Hennessey just started his blog last week and I think it’s going to be an important one.

http://keithhennessey.com/

He kicked off by saying:

Welcome to my new blog. If you would like to learn more about American economic policy, I would be honored to be your guide. I will do my best to explain the options faced by senior American economic policymakers, and to analyze the choices they make.

I anticipate defining “economic policy” broadly as we did at the White House, to include not just the macroeconomy, but also financial market issues, tax policy, energy and climate change, health care, trade and international finance, Social Security and Medicare reform, housing, transportation, pensions, technology and telecommunications, and agriculture policy.

He has two big series going on right now. The first is on auto loans, and the second is on the TARP.

He’s working hard at his number crunching and explanations. You may not agree with his conclusions, but it’s the first blog I’ve seen like this.

INC on April 1, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Cant wait for Allah to wake up. I wonder how he’ll counter this? Probably post pics of Sanford or something…

davek70 on April 1, 2009 at 12:43 PM

He’s tied up and gagged in a basement closet somewhere.

Ed, post on!

Sapwolf on April 1, 2009 at 1:09 PM

And we all remember the nonstop Dem outrage over Gonzales’s role in firing the attorneys?

The incompetence and malfeasance of Geithner pales in comparison.

BTW If the threads are going to focus on April Fools, could we limit the photos to the actual fools of this administration and the Dem legislators?

onlineanalyst on April 1, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Gimme one bottle of bourbon and one day, and I could have figured out this TARP stuff and bought out the loans AND actually hired a few people.

I would have done it for free.

And, convinced Megan Kelly to interview me daily at the WH while O-man is at G-20.

Sapwolf on April 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Liars, crooks, and radical idealogues. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, Geithner.

marklmail on April 1, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Geithner on a reason why he took the SecTreas position: “I understood that there would be no math involved.”

cyclown on April 1, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Leave little Timmy alone!

His performance gives me hope that this administration will completely unravel.

Oh… my… What’s this?!?!

Loxodonta on April 1, 2009 at 1:20 PM

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