Pro-abortion groups freak out over license plates
posted at 9:32 am on March 31, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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One might think that a license plate that emphasized choice would please the people who style themselves as “pro-choice”. Not in Virginia, though, as Democratic Governer and DNC chair Tim Kaine has discovered. Kaine approved a new option for license plates that displays the phrase, “Choose Life”, and pro-abortion groups have hit the roof:
Tim Kaine, the Virginia governor and President Barack Obama’s hand-picked choice as the head of the Democratic National Committee, infuriated abortion-rights groups Monday by signing legislation that gives abortion foes a long-sought victory.
Kaine brushed off intense lobbying by abortion rights supporters in Richmond to sign a bill that allows Virginia motorists to advertise their anti-abortion views by sporting “Choose Life” specialty license plates. …
“It is surprising that Governor Kaine would do this, but it’s all the more surprising that he would do it as chair of the DNC,” said Paulette McElwain, the president of the Virginia League for Planned Parenthood.
McElwain exchanged numerous calls with the governor’s office over the license plates and organized a grass roots effort that logged more than 2,000 calls to the governor’s staff.
“We provided him with abundant information,” she said. “We’re terribly disappointed that he decided to sign it.”
In Washington, NARAL/Pro-Choice America channeled more than 17,000 emails and 200 calls to the DNC urging Kaine to veto the bill.
“It is unfortunate that, even after receiving thousands of messages from Virginians and pro-choice activists across the country, Gov. Kaine has opted to sign a bill that advances a divisive political ideology at the expense of women’s health,” NARAL/Pro-Choice America president Nancy Keenan said in a statement.
The license plate doesn’t say, “Stop abortion” or “Make women sick”. It says “Choose Life”, and shows a simple drawing of the faces of two children. How is that a “divisive political ideology”? Successful gestation is an ideology?
More to the point, why is the phrase “Choose Life” such a threat to NARAL and Planned Parenthood? At least for the latter, convincing fewer women to have abortions cuts into their revenue stream. They’re going to lose money if women “choose life” and they’ll get to kill fewer fetuses.
And isn’t more than a little ironic that NARAL/Pro-Choice America has such a heated reaction to the phrase “choose life“?
Many states now have specialty license plate programs that allow various groups to promote their mission. Kaine noted when he signed off on the Choose Life plate that Planned Parenthood could come up with its own, but that he had little choice but to approve the request on his desk. All they need is 350 people to prepay a $25 fee for a plate that says, “Kill your fetus,” and they’re good to go.
Kaine himself is a moderately pro-life politician, alhough he promised not to actually act on it as Governor. The pro-abortion lobby feels betrayed by a license plate. Nothing proves their radical absolutism in pursuit of abortion better than this kerfuffle.
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I wonder what they think of George Michael’s ‘choose life’ theme back in the 80’s and 90’s. They’re probably OK with that since he’s gay and all. Gayness gets you membership at the liberal OKness I guess.
ThackerAgency on March 31, 2009 at 9:35 AM
I don’t see this group going ape over the divisive political ideoplogy over the Washington DC license plates…you know, the one that says “taxation without representation?” That’s also the license plate that was created unilaterally by the DC government, btw.
JohnTant on March 31, 2009 at 9:35 AM
choose life
ThackerAgency on March 31, 2009 at 9:36 AM
I love it when secularists pretend to be all confused over what we mean when we identify them as the Culture of Death.
A child could understand. Why not the democrat party?
jeff_from_mpls on March 31, 2009 at 9:37 AM
To be fair, it is a tactic endorsement of one side. Hypothetically, they’d have the save problem with “choose death.” They’d prob want something along the lines of “choose life, or don’t.”
Trent1289 on March 31, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Well perhaps they could come up with their own design showing a dead infant and the words: “Choose Death”.
carbon_footprint on March 31, 2009 at 9:38 AM
They’re afraid there might be one less dead baby.
Pro-choice is a euphemism for murder.
davidk on March 31, 2009 at 9:40 AM
they’re just ticked because license plates showing an aborted fetus with the phrase “kill babies” wouldn’t sell as many plates and therefore not raise funds for their cause.
gatorboy on March 31, 2009 at 9:40 AM
My Minnesota “Support Our Troops” license plate will probably have to go away too, it’s divisive and an affront to MorOn.org and Code Pink.
Good on Kaine for sticking to his guns and following the law rather than the outraged outrageousness from the ding-dongs.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM
I wonder what they think of George Michael’s ‘choose life’ theme back in the 80’s and 90’s. They’re probably OK with that since he’s gay and all. Gayness gets you membership at the liberal OKness I guess.
ThackerAgency on March 31, 2009 at 9:35 AM
George Michael was expressing the joyness of his life as a happy gay man, and the future choice to be in a relationship with another man and still have the freedom to cruise other guys in public restrooms.
Ghoul aid on March 31, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Or maybe a license plate slogan that says: “This statement is both true and false.”
Pretty much sums up moral relativism.
jeff_from_mpls on March 31, 2009 at 9:43 AM
Like the governor said, if Planned Parenthood or whoever comes up with a license plate, he’ll approve it too. The answer to speech you don’t like is more speech, not telling the other guy to shut up.
Sekhmet on March 31, 2009 at 9:44 AM
The ACLU tried to force Indiana to stop allowing vehicle owners to choose a license plate with “In God We Trust” on it. The ACLU lost last year.
Great how these organziations that alledgedly support choice want to squash it.
WashJeff on March 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM
This just shows that NARAL, Planned Parenthood, the NAG Girls and Statism itself is a death cult. These people love death; death of unborn children in the womb, death of children who have survived an abortion, and later in life, euthenasia of the sick and mentally ill. Statism is evil and always will be.
Ceroth on March 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM
I love it when pro-abortion groups get angry over sweet sayings like “choose life” w/ two little kids…it makes then look totally INSANE!!!!
vitaatcaritas on March 31, 2009 at 9:45 AM
abundant information about what, exactly? I’m trying to figure what logic was used to try to talk Kaine out of approving the plate.
Quisp on March 31, 2009 at 9:46 AM
We’ve had the same plate in Florida for some time now. I have them on all my cars. I wasn’t living here when they first came out but I recall hearing about the same “outrage” when they became available. It’s just another example of the left allowing only speech they approve of.
crusader1145 on March 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM
How soon before they organize “civil disobedience” against cars with the license plates?
ctmom on March 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Don’t these people claim that they want to make abortion safe, legal, and RARE?
They give away their true motivation with protests like this. They want to make abortion the only option for women who are having questions or doubts.
There was a big protest locally over a counselling clinic that actually let women know all of their options, even adoption. As well as letting them know what kinds of support would be available if they decided to keep their children.
MarkTheGreat on March 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM
I wouldn’t put that on my car out of fear that someone would shoot me or run me off the road. I don’t understand the need for controversial plates, it’s just asking for trouble.
scalleywag on March 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Information like:
- The NEA will not support you financially.
- The SEIU will not support you financially.
- Soros will not support you financially.
WashJeff on March 31, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Maybe a plate with a coat hanger and a smiley face would work for them.
trl on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Heh. I didn’t vote for Kaine, but I’m glad he did this. Though the above is also true, and I expect the pro-choice folks will have their own version soon. The whole thing is silly, people drive around with bumper stickers that say the same, why not have it on a license plate?
4shoes on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Isn’t “choose life” part of the pro-choice dogma or is the only acceptable choice in pro-choice movement the choice of death?
sdd on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
They support choice, but only as long as you make the choices they support.
MarkTheGreat on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
As a pro-choicer, I have no problem with the plate unless there is some kind of regulation forbidding political statements on license plates. Pleae let’s not play innocent and pretend that “Choose Life” is not a political statement. It is. It is the motto of the political movement to ban all abortion.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
No. The phrase would be the oft-used pro-abortion slogan Every Child a Wanted Child. But that would take up too much space on the license plate, so they’d have to shorten it. Maybe — No Child Unwanted. Wait — isn’t that what Choose Life means?
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
It’s a license plate, not a fu*king soapbox or a billboard.
Both sides need to go get a bumper sticker and stfu.
In the 70’s, the provincial government in Quebec had the stupid idea to only require a rear license plate. This led to an annoying whoring up of the front license plate into everything from Pepsi ads to political statements to hackneyed FU*K WINTER/MY OTHER CAR IS A PORSCHE/I HONK FOR GEESE/etc cliches to beloved cartoon characters peeing on the competition’s truck. Epic, epic fail.
It’s a license plate. It has one purpose. Let it do its job.
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 9:50 AM
I just wish they would get rid of all these nonsensical vanity plate options. Why can’t the state just stay bland and boring? Well except the religious ones, they should keep those so I know just what kind of idiot I am dealing with on the road.
LevStrauss on March 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM
As a pro-choicer, I have no problem with the plate unless there is some kind of regulation forbidding political statements on license plates. Pleae let’s not play innocent and pretend that “Choose Life” is not a political statement. It is. It is the motto of the political movement to ban all abortion.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM
oh no! what would all those wh-res do then if they couldn’t murder their babies???????????????? OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ghoul aid on March 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM
So is “Live Free or Die”.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Like most Libs, they only like choice if you choose the same way they do. Examples:
Freedom of speech – as long as your speech is tolerant, understanding, and otherwise filtered.
Also – you’re free to put an effigy of Pres. Bush in your yard, but not a Christmas tree.
Freedom of the press – as long as your articles support the Democrats.
Freedom of Assembly – as long as you’re marching for a Leftist cause.
Freedom to organize in the workplace – as long as you unionize.
Free trade – as long as we “protect American jobs”, don’t pay “excessive” salaries, and give loans to people that can’t repay them.
hawksruleva on March 31, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Pro-choice means choice. The movement is about preserving choice whatever that may be. I frankly think they make a mistake when they go after this kind of silly stuff. I couldn’t care less if pro-life groups take out billboards, make commercials or whatever.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 9:53 AM
It is — making money for the state. Each one nets an extra $25.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM
It is gut wrenching how so many people are so tirelessly dedicated to the abortion death mill cause.
Anyone who believes that true evil does not exist, has never been on the inside of an abortion clinic, or is too morally and intellectually bankrupt to notice it.
Not content with millions of murdered children every year, they also want to kill any sort of alternative message.
I am glad I have a soul and a mind and am not a pro-abort.
NoDonkey on March 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM
No. “Pro-choice” is ThinkSpeak for “Pro-abortion”.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Back in 1770s before this country was founded.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM
It’s because choosing life is good and choosing death is bad. They like the option of death but don’t want to be seen preferring it.
Dusty on March 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Yet another appearance of the “abortion foes” phrase instead of the more neutral “opponents of abortion.”
Bill Ramey on March 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
We do so need to encourage teenage girls living in poverty to have children. Ann Coulter’s latest tells us what great parents they are.
thuja on March 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Pro-choice means choice. The movement is about preserving choice whatever that may be.
I’ll try to remember that when the “assault rifle” ban is reenacted.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
But Lev, for the plate to serve that function, you have to be tailgating — and when you do that, you deserve whatever the idiot in front of you dishes out.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
A little out of character for a leftie to slip and admit anything has a purpose.
Careful.
jeff_from_mpls on March 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM
So that is what Choose Life means? I don’t recall the liberal music industry objecting to this?
Although I was very surprised.
keep the change on March 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Fine. Go ahead and cling to your silly language. It is the reason your movement has made no progress in 30+ years.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Sickeningly, Ed, that’s all. That’s it. That’s the only thing they care about.
MadisonConservative on March 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM
But they keep saying that the GOP is the close minded party.
myrenovations on March 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:56 AM
No I got good eyesight, unlike those who have those plates.
LevStrauss on March 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM
The state police should make a vanity plate that states “Legalize Pot”. Earn an extra $25 for the state and make it easier to identify those cars that need their trunks searched. ;-)
WashJeff on March 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Then maybe they ought take the anachronism off the plate, since we live in more enlightened times….
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM
The left: “Free speech for me, but not for thee.”
Vashta.Nerada on March 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM
I have to kinda agree with you, the gov’t shouldn’t be printing out dozens of types , just keep to one per state. That said, I love this story and hope that VA residents, esp. ones close to DC use these to make the “pro-choice” people pull their hair out. And dont get me started on the commonwealth of Pennsylvania’s boring plate(mine) or California’s “surfer-dude” font
thebrokenrattle on March 31, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Bull. Anyone can be in favor of the choice to have an abortion and still be against them. I’m in favor of the choice to smoke but I still hate cigarettes.
MadisonConservative on March 31, 2009 at 10:00 AM
It is — making money for the state. Each one nets an extra $25.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM
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I assume it costs something extra but it’s not worth it and it’s wholly inappropriate.
Who decides which specialty plates get made? What if neo-nazis want a plate? How about pro-pot potheads? Or is it just going to be another platform for the governing party to get their message out?
It’s a can of worms. Put the lid back on it.
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Whoa! The angry Canadien is advocating limiting the scope of government. There’s a surprise every day.
fluffy on March 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM
You sure there isn’t a speck in there somewhere? After all, they might be slow, but they are ahead of you.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM
It’s hard for me to get angsty about this when some pro-lifers have been celebrating the plane crash that killed 14 people, including children, in Montana.
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/646579835.html
SnarkVader on March 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM
its wonderful to see the far left wing of the Va. Dems hating the Dem. Va. Gov.
these people are so stupid that they say “well, Thank Goodness Kaine didn’t get picked for VP”. because somehow he would be worse than Biden?? ha ha ha
kelley in virginia on March 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Freedom of speech, Dave — something which I understand is alien to Liberal Canadians.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
I guess it produces additional revenue for drained state coffers, so good for VA.
dedalus on March 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
hawksruleva on March 31, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Freedom to keep and bear arms as long as they are disassembled and locked up at the police station.
Freedom to educate your kids but only at government schools of the government’s choosing.
Freedom to smoke but only in a deserted field five miles from anyone or anything.
Freedom to discipline your kids but only with a time out or gentle cooing.
Freedom to drive what you want but only if the vehicle is an underpowered, three cylinder death trap.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
If “Choose Life” is unacceptable to some NAGs, perhaps a license plate with “Adoption: Every Child Is Wanted” would make their tiny heads explode.
Right_of_Attila on March 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
The state police should make a vanity plate that states “Legalize Pot”. Earn an extra $25 for the state and make it easier to identify those cars that need their trunks searched. ;-)
WashJeff on March 31, 2009 at 9:59 AM
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Funny but true.
Drivers are actually putting a target on themselves with these plates. A pro-choice cop might be more likely to ticket a 55 in a 50 zone pro-lifer just to be a di*k, which, again, is wholly inappropriate.
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Fine. Go ahead and cling to your silly language. It is the reason your movement has made no progress in 30+ years.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 9:58 AM
no sweetcheeks, the past 30 years have gone to hell. but i’m sure you like it that way! btw, have you had your glass of kool aide this morning?
Ghoul aid on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
No..we need to encourage young teenage girls to respect their bodies and wait to have sex until they are married. The last time I checked babies come from sex.
vitaatcaritas on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
How exactly does a slogan on license plates adversely affect women’s health, Nancy? Are these “choose life” license plates going to jump off the cars and bar the doors to all the Planned Parenthood abortion clinics in Va.?
If you can’t muster a coherent argument in support of your position, maybe you should just keep quiet.
AZCoyote on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
I don’t think “Pro-Choice” is advocacy of a freedom to smoke, as you are positing.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
There’s a plate I would buy.
CDeb on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
The irony is that many pro-lifers would be the first to scream about paying welfare for teenage/unwed mothers. Their concern for the child extends up to delivery. After that, sorry you are on your own.
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM
They’re probably happier with George’s more recent “Choose Restrooms” t-shirts.
jon1979 on March 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Hey look, a customer for the “legalize pot” plate!
CDeb on March 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Yes, I’m sure that is the right approach. Then again, maybe that’s why the 1st Amendment is immediately followed by the 2nd Amendment…
CC
CapedConservative on March 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Freedom of speech, Dave — something which I understand is alien to Liberal Canadians.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM
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Hey I heard there were these things called bumper stickers and there are things written on these bumper stickers and you stick them on your bumper and people can read the words that are on the bumper sticker. Now you’ve learned new today. Hooray!
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:05 AM
No, it’s the motto of those who recognize that it is a choice, hence the word “choose” in the motto.
“Abortion stops a beating heart” and other variations are the mottoes of those who want abortion ended.
Esthier on March 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM
How about telling teenage boys to wait until marriage? And I am sure that no here has had sex outside the boundary of marriage…..
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Whoa! The angry Canadien is advocating limiting the scope of government. There’s a surprise every day.
fluffy on March 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM
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Common sense trumps politics every time, tabernack*
*complicated word beyond the scope of understanding of unilingual Americans.
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM
As long as pro-choice plates are also allowed, then there should be no problem.
keep the change on March 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM
As my (ex) girl friend used to say, “Everyone is entitled to their opinion”. Which meant that she was entitled to her opinion, and since my thinking conflicted with her conclusions then I should just shut up.
Skandia Recluse on March 31, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Master of the Universe “The Won” won’t find the humor or logic in Tim Kaine’s signature on this bill. or maybe Tim Kaine & bambi plan to keep the Catholic vote this way.
kelley in virginia on March 31, 2009 at 10:08 AM
What was in this “abundant information” package that Paulette McElwain provided? Was there an argument that government health care would be over-burdened?
Rovin on March 31, 2009 at 10:08 AM
That depends if you dismiss those who have a position based simply on a label rather than hearing them out. Anyone who is truly patriotic about America is “pro-choice”, because this country stands for the individual’s right to make choices about how they will live their life without the state making those choices for them. Just because feminists and neo-eugenics creeps have hijacked the phrase doesn’t mean we can’t still claim it.
“Pro-choice” means being in favor of every American’s right to make their own decisions, be them about firearms ownership, what church they choose to go to, what they want to eat, where they want to live, what job they want, etc. Lots of those choices are disliked by others. The beauty of this nation is the protection of those choices from the law, while still being subject to all the consequences those decisions carry(well, unless you choose not to pay your mortgage).
MadisonConservative on March 31, 2009 at 10:09 AM
We do so need to encourage teenage girls living in poverty to have children.
No..we need to encourage young teenage girls to respect their bodies and wait to have sex until they are married. The last time I checked babies come from sex.
vitaatcaritas on March 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM
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No, Captain LastCentury, we need to educate teens about birth control. Last time I checked, the vast, vast, vast majority of teens rejected abstention.
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Well, he’s now opened up a can of worms. Watch for a slew of political license plates.
AnninCA on March 31, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM
It’s not that complicated, nor is it appropriate.
Quit putting whiskey in your cup of Tim Horton’s.
fluffy on March 31, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Guys, pay attention. Dave is telling you the only way you’re allowed to express your opinion, and as a Canadian, he should know what we can and cannot do. Why even bother arguing?
Esthier on March 31, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Planned Parenthood’s problem is that it has no effective slogan for a license plate. There’s Ed’s suggestion: “Kill your fetus,” accompanied by a tombstone marked with “Fetus X RIP.” Guess not. There’s always the nonsensical “Choose Choice.” Face it, here’s a situation in which the left lose on the substance and on the language. And the really great thing is that a truly positive message exposes these cockroaches for the ghouls that they are.
BuckeyeSam on March 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM
What a joke, as if killing babies isn’t divisive.
What I’d like to see are these fabled “health” problems that require a baby be killed.
Out of 1,000,000 abortion performed maybe one or two is a legitimate “health” issue. I really would like to see some stats.
darwin on March 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM
vita….I don’t think many people waited for marriage even in the 1950’s, nevermind now.
AnninCA on March 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Nope. The equivalent plates would be “choose abortion”.
MadisonConservative on March 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Considering your own grammar mishaps here, I wouldn’t be throwing stones, Dave.
Esthier on March 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I think about 90% of Americans have premarital sex.
dedalus on March 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I’ve also heard that, in Canada, there’s some wierd Human Rights Commission that can haul your *ss into court for having anything controversial on a bumper sticker. Now you’ve learned new today. Hooray!
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Talk about blinded by an ideology. Sheesh.
samuelrylander on March 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM
No, it was the box of maple bars….
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Don’t Kill your baby…That’s a bad thing to a liberal. You’d think people would have noticed that.
tx2654 on March 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Esthier on March 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM
He spelled it wrong, too.
fluffy on March 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM
The word as used by its adherents means anything but what you’ve described. It’s ThinkSpeak.
unclesmrgol on March 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Right, cause that’s worked out so well for us if you ignore all evidence to the contrary.
The more we push birth control, the more pregnant teens we have. Abortion and readily available birth control have only meant more teen parents, not less, and to pretend that these kids just don’t understand how to put a condom on is to pretend they’re too stupid to know how intercourse works.
Esthier on March 31, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Bull. Anyone can be in favor of the choice to have an abortion and still be against them. I’m in favor of the choice to smoke but I still hate cigarettes.
MadisonConservative on March 31, 2009 at 10:00 AM
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This is exactly my position. Anti-abortion, but pro-choice: I hope we can get to the point where abortions are no longer performed (except for rape/danger to the mother/etc), but I accept that this imperfect world is not there yet – especially with jacka$$es (like, say, the Pope) railing against birth control and ludicrously suggesting that abstention is the ONLY thing that should be taught, or people using abortion itself as a form of birth control.
Dave Rywall on March 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Keep government out of your bedroom. Too long for a plate. We need something shorter. Any ideas?
Chekote on March 31, 2009 at 10:15 AM
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