Open thread: Polls close in NY-20; Update: Murphy by 65 votes? Update: Thousands of absentees
posted at 9:28 pm on March 31, 2009 by Allahpundit
The boss is spot on: If we lose, it means nothing, and if we win, it means everything. This is Gillibrand’s district, which used to be solid red until she stole a victory there a few years ago by pretending to be a Blue Dog. The question is whether bailout/stimulus fatigue will drive it back into our column or whether The One — who finally endorsed the Democrat a few days ago — can keep it blue. More background here from MKH, noting that Murphy is now a slight favorite to win after trailing early on by 16 points. Jim Tedisco, the Republican, tried to make up the difference yesterday by campaigning through the night. It feels like Groundhog Day at this point. Will the GOP see its shadow or we will have six more years of political winter?
I don’t want to get people too excited, but if Tedisco pulls this out we might just be in for a humpbot cameo.
Update: Live results here. With 206 of 610 precincts reporting, Tedisco leads by four.
Update: Dave Weigel snarks, “Jim Tedisco’s ability to blow a 20-point lead proves that the GOP is back, baby.”
Update: With 505 of 610 precincts reporting, it’s Tedisco by … less than one percent.
Update: With all 610 precincts reporting, it’s Murphy 77,344, Tedisco 77,279. Are there 66 absentee ballots out there for the GOP? Should only take us a few weeks and, perhaps, a long court battle to find out!
Needless to say, there shall be no humpbot tonight.
Update: There won’t be a winner for a long, long time.
With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Murphy had 77,344 votes to Tedisco’s 77,279. Somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 military and absentee ballots remain uncounted, according to the Associated Press, and overseas absentee ballots will continue be accepted until April 13. In short, no winner will be declared any time soon.
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Goodnight, HA-ers
blatantblue on March 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM
The globalistic push in the US comes almost entirely from the lunatic left (which is everyone on the left), with a little help from a few on the right who have some unnatural love for the UN, like Bush. The globalistic push is not one of financial interests, for the most part, but mostly restricted to political morons. You confuse businesses working to expand market access, some of whom are misguided in their pursuit, with those who want ultimate political power vested in a unified authority and the elimination of nation-states, mostly as a reaction to their hate of the WEst (and this is the Western self-haters pushing it with support from every sh!thole on Earth that wants a piece of the Western pie stolen and handed to them.
Bush is not typical of the right in his globalist ideas (which seem to be a Bush family heirloom, as Bush Sr. was the first moron to empower the UN as the USSR dissolved), as should have been evident by his wild veering to the left for his second term. People like McCain, who seem to have no respect for US sovereignty, are a bit of puzzle, though McCain never has any great reason backing his arbitrary selection of positions.
Further, much of the US population has been trained to think that global institutions are, somehow, natural (which they are anything but) by the same indoctrination in schools that leads them to the many other LIBERAL ideas that they take as ‘natural’.
progressoverpeace on March 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM
So you’re saying that an attempted assassination of an ex-President of the US, as ordered by the head of state of a foreign country that the US was at war with only a short time earlier, isn’t a Casus Belli? You’re cool with that, huh? That’s just a big joke to you, right?
Dreadnought on March 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM
She can’t carry her bowcaster openly….
sven10077 on March 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Somewhere in half-darkened McDonalds ready to close for the night, Meghan McCain — sitting in the darkest corner of the restaurant with Big Mac thousand islands special sauce and whats left of an apple pie sloppily smeared all over her face — laughs manically, in all her pudgy glory, at our lost in NY-20 tonight.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM
I don’t trust the ballot box anymore. Strange stuff.
hawkdriver on March 31, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Pretty much. Nice way to make friends, influence people and squander $600B though.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Not if it’s close. No way.
ddrintn on March 31, 2009 at 11:00 PM
capitulus:
I realize that you were probably playing in a sandbox in 1998, but that was the year that Bill Clinton passed the Iraqi Liberation Act and promised all of us that not only did Saddam have wmd, he would by God use them.
And then in 2002 a Democratic Senate passed a resolution giving the President authority to go to war in Iraq, there were seventeen reasons given in that resolution, none of which was about Daddy.
The UN passed force Resolution 1441 authorizing the disarmament of Saddam by all means necessary soon after that.
Zinni, Berger, Clinton, Gore, Rockefeller etc all said Saddam was a threat. And it was not until it suited them poltically to change their minds that they did.
If Iraq ever becomes a decent country it will be in spite of and not because of people like you. If you had your way Saddam could wipe half his population off the face of the earth.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:00 PM
But yourself in the left’s shoes for a moment – not only is Utopia achievable, it isn’t really even that hard. All you have to do is get rid of those mean conservatives, get some super-smart leftists in government, and all of our problems will go away.
Now, if you really believed this was basically true, wouldn’t you be willing to lie, cheat, and steal to bring on the millennium? Certainly it is a small price to pay.
This is what we face, and our leaders are completely unable to understand it or react to it.
18-1 on March 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Amen
msmveritas on March 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM
She’s been heavily sedated by the O-team… Europe just isn’t ready.
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:02 PM
You owe me a new keyboard.
18-1 on March 31, 2009 at 11:02 PM
You deadenders need to give it up. Face it, no yellowcake, no WMDs, no immient threat, no bin Laden. Nothing. It’s guys like you that have reduced the GOP to a minor regional party.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:03 PM
it’s like the one time the Ewoks put that meat in the net….just too many “typical white people needing their souls saved by Barack”….
meat on the pit
sven10077 on March 31, 2009 at 11:03 PM
I don’t know if I can truly believe that all leftist activists have this Utopian goal… They just want power that the Constitution would never give them…
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:04 PM
capitulus is okay with people killing presidents. Nobody tell Obama.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:04 PM
You sound creepily like one of the Hitlerjugend.
ddrintn on March 31, 2009 at 11:04 PM
If this is true, lets hope they put her on different meds than they did Laura Bush. That Joker smile and 50 yard stare was downright creepy.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
To any of the numerous trolls who come here and are free to post unmoderated (Unlike HuffPo and DU) the only thing wasteful about the expenditure of money and lives lost in OEF and OIF is that it in part paid for the freedom and safety of a good portion of Americans who absolutely do not deserve it.
hawkdriver on March 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
New York agreed to count overseas absentee ballots until April 13 – instead of the initial April 7 cutoff – after the U.S. Department of Justice sued the state for not giving overseas absentee voters enough time to return ballots.
msmveritas on March 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
And, I might add, Hans Blix, no friend of GW Bush, in his final report to the UN before enforcement of 1441, stated that Saddam would not account for tens of thousands of liters of anthrax. This was not long after a hundredth of one liter paralyzed the US through the mail system.
Patrick S on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
^ Do you shower with that O armband?
ddrintn on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Unlike the 4 trillion budget your leader is forcing down our throats.
Knucklehead on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
I think Michelle Obama is a man.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Imagine KristalNacht for all small businesses that back the wrong party and you have their blueprint for “growth”….
sven10077 on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Kind of makes you wonder why Ogabe allows our military to violate sovereign Pakistani territory and continue Predator strikes.
What did I just say? Sorry…I keep forgetting how wars are “good” when a demorat President is leading the nation.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
capitulus on March 31, 2009
Who’s going to tranquilize this troll?
FontanaConservative on March 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM
+1
damn it someone fetch the fire extinguisher a moonbat is about to blow an internal logic gasket….
sven10077 on March 31, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Oh great, more time for ACORN to stuff the ballot box
Knucklehead on March 31, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Yes, Laura Bush = Creep.
Michelle Obama = Beautiful Greek Goddess…
My bad…
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I agree, but this stems from political operatives, not the Fed. The spending and the regulation are all products of the political side, not the Fed. The Fed just suffers from huge amounts of cowardice, which has been true for some time.
progressoverpeace on March 31, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Tranquilize? That’s the future, buddy. How Obama got elected.
ddrintn on March 31, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Ugh… Pa-kee-stan. You have to say it Pa-kee-stan or else you look like a Philistine. Jeez, the Europeans might be reading this thread!
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Indeed, and they don’t even know it, or don’t want to know it…they need to be squished like gnats, as they have no more value than that.
Entelechy on March 31, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Nothing would surprise me.
ddrintn on March 31, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Except this time they’ll just smash through the windows with the buses.
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:09 PM
If this is true, lets hope they put her on different meds than they did Laura Bush. That Joker smile and 50 yard stare was downright creepy.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Klingon physiology is quite different than our own, though I’m sure the professional chemists of Germany can find something to do the job. Maybe a 500cc bolus of Zyklon-B?
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 11:09 PM
+1
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Dude, if I lived in Fontana, I’d WANT to be tranquilized.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
capitulus:
speaking of dead enders:
You idiot. They found 550 metric tons of yellow cake in Iraq, the Canadians bought it.
and they found dozens of illegal weapons programs as well. According to the reports done by the weapons inspectors after the invasion the biological and chemical weapons could have been back in production in a matter of months.
This is the thing about people like you, you do not know what you are talking about. The vast majority of the information gathered, was gathered by the Clinton administration, not the Governor of Texas. In Feb 2000 General Zinni told the Congress that Saddam was our number one threat.
If indeed he was not, then the Democrats had 8 years to resolve that issue and did not. Instead they made regime change the national policy without any kind of plan to carry it out and went their merry freaking way.
And btw, Saddam was a mass murdering dictator, the world is a better place without him and his psycho sons in it.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
The 2004 election called.
It wants its relevant discussion back.
Hawkins1701 on March 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
What’s really odd is that the idiot messiah always says “Pah-kee-stahn”, but then, in the same sentence, pronounces Afghanistan normally.
progressoverpeace on March 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
And btw, $600 billion is chump change to the Obama administration.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Michelle Obama = Beautiful Neanderthal
GoddessGod…My bad…
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Fixed it for ya! Mmm… Them *toned* arms.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Speaking of deadenders, I remember visions of liberal utopia like this one.
Loxodonta on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
They may mistake her for the Obama version missile defense shield…
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM
You wouldn’t like it here, NASCAR is a city sport.
FontanaConservative on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Wow, Star Trek references. You must be really slick with the ladies. May the force be with you, you’ll need it.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Laura Bush was just a beautiful and soft spoken woman. When the left needs to attack her for fun, thats when you know there is not a shred of class left in them. Not a shred.
hawkdriver on March 31, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Ugh… Pa-kee-stan. You have to say it Pa-kee-stan or else you look like a Philistine. Jeez, the Europeans might be reading this thread!
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Shiitfire, you’re right! And to think I just took Ogabe’s advice and learned to speak French so Europeans would like me.
*trudges back to charm school*
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Yeah, what is up with that?
Knucklehead on March 31, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I mean clearly she was like such a drag… Now we have a politically active first lady… Finally, someone who wants power that the electorate never gave them…
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Listen to what they say.
Bush and/or the Republicans are responsible for all the world’s ills. Obama will heal our souls. We can have easily move to “renewable energy” if the skeptics would just get out of the way. We can give everyone high quality health care for free, if the Republicans weren’t stopping us. John Kerry will make the handicapped walk. Etc etc etc.
Now, the solution to every problem is always give Democrats/liberals/leftists more money or political power true. But I don’t see this as a binary choice. Essentially the left’s argument is give us your freedom and we will give you utopia.
18-1 on March 31, 2009 at 11:13 PM
I would also add, regarding WMD and Iraq, that it was only because of the invasion of Iraq that we scared the living sh!t out of Quadaffi and got him to puke up his whole nuke program, which gave us a true insight into the AQ Khan network (which was orders of magnitude larger and more complex and advanced than we had suspected) and allowed us to shut that down. That, by itself, was more MWD, and more important WMD, than was ever expected out of Iraq and came only because of the Iraq invasion.
progressoverpeace on March 31, 2009 at 11:13 PM
You deadenders need to give it up. Face it, no yellowcake, no WMDs, no immient threat, no bin Laden. Nothing. It’s guys like you that have reduced the GOP to a minor regional party.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Best of all dipshit, no Saddam!
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canopfor on March 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I don’t belive in UFOs, StarChambers, Castro killed Kennedy, or Jackalopes, but after several elections, in different locations, we end up 0/0.1??????
This dead carp appears to have been laying in the sun too long.
Limerick on March 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM
They will come through for us unless they are somehow thrown out.
katy on March 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM
That would be assuming they were keeping their word…
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Wow, Star Trek references. You must be really slick with the ladies. May the force be with you, you’ll need it.
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Dude, you’re mixing your sci-fi references pretty badly.
Figure out a way to use “Beam me up, Scotty” as a retort and try again.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I don’t disagree with much of what you say, and thank you for your kind and thoughtful response.
I mean this with no disrespect but I used to think the same thing just a little over two months. I was a typical conservative who thought that it was ONLY liberals that wanted a centralized government. I was wrong. Yes,I totally agree, the left and some in the Republican party want a stronger centralized government, but there is another layer of deceit that few see.
I clicked for me. I now the left and liberalism as simply a tool in a much larger toolbox. Liberalism is a pawn on a chessboard, a dangerous pawn, but a pawn nonetheless.
True_King on March 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM
That’s because it’s in Syria
Knucklehead on March 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM
She does pour a good lobster bisk. I will have to give her that.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I don’t know, but it smells awfully weird. Something to do with his childhood, I would guess … and connected to his trip to Pah-kee-stahn. I have the feeling it’s like the “hidden” finger he liked to give people. He gets a kick out of childish little digs like this.
progressoverpeace on March 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM
proggressoverpeace:
Yes, Quadaffi gave up the program for fear that he would be next.
But capitulus is an idiot who does not even know where Libya is.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Wrong. Saddam Hussein was a weapon of mass destruction.
His two sons were also.
carbon_footprint on March 31, 2009 at 11:17 PM
ROTFLMAO…. Silly hawkdriver, the left never had a shred of class, that’s why they are liberals.
doriangrey on March 31, 2009 at 11:17 PM
With 6-10.000 mil. votes this race is Tedescos. Cheer up!
This is also a test of an evergized public.
NO MORE MINNESOTAS
katy on March 31, 2009 at 11:18 PM
canopfor on March 31, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I will disengage for now.
FontanaConservative on March 31, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Per Sarah Palin, it’s one of the states in the great country of Africa. Yep that’s it. You betcha!
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Once the Democrats pull out their emergency vote reserve, it will be a lot bigger margin than 65 votes. I imagine more ballots are being “discovered” as I type this.
crosspatch on March 31, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Were you born this stupid or did your parents have to deprive you of food and oxygen for you to achieve this level of imbecilic ineptitude??? Yellowcake from Iraq…
doriangrey on March 31, 2009 at 11:20 PM
She does pour a good lobster bisk. I will have to give her that.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Just like the rest of us, Ogabe requires her to work.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 11:20 PM
You’re right of course Mr. Grey. I do wish there were a way to avenge their callous words though. In the words of Zell Miller, they’re lucky we’re not allowed to challenge to duels anymore.
Er, we’re not, are we?
hawkdriver on March 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Oh I don’t know about that. We use the word utopia to denote a perfect society, but if you actually break the word down from the Greek it means “no place”. :)
18-1 on March 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Bill Maher and Tina Fey have joined the party.
Knucklehead on March 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Wow the swamp is THICK tonight.
HornetSting on March 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM
“Per Sarah Palin, it’s one of the states in the great country of Africa. Yep that’s it. You betcha!
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:19 PM”
capitulus, you’re so dense you fit right in with the dunce in chief idiots like you voted for. Don’t you remember Axelrod’s instructions, it’s one of the *57* states that dumbo Obama campaigned in.
Sheesh, the libs are really scratching for some spokespeople nowadays.
Webrider on March 31, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Trolls aside, how, you number crunchers out there in HotAirLand, can these elections always end up so frakkin close? Gimme the quantum mechanics or just plain ‘ol arithmetic on why this is happening.
Limerick on March 31, 2009 at 11:22 PM
capitulus:
You know damn well she did not say that. But then again Obama did not know that Kentucky bordered his {smirk} home state of Illinois and he was a little fuzzy about how many states were in the union.
We could do this all night. Bottom line: Democrats had 8 years to deal with Saddam and Osama, they blew it. And that is why there was a war.
And you can yammer on about regional parties all you want, these things are always changing. Four years ago, it was the other way around, four years from now it could be again.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Africa is a continent and it happens to be the 57th state –or thats what the Kenyans think right about now.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
So what’s the Greek for “no plan but spend-u-lose?”
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
uh… voter fraud..
katy on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Terrye, dims never let the facts get in the way.
HornetSting on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Good question… How many Tea Parties before that changes…
doriangrey on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Please don’t confuse them with facts.
Loxodonta on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Per Sarah Palin, it’s one of the states in the great country of Africa. Yep that’s it. You betcha!
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Huh, and I thought it might have been in “Mesopotamia” per President Ogabe.
Bishop on March 31, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Lemerick:
Well, 70% of the highschool drop outs vote Democrat now. And tow thirds of the kids in the inner cities do not graduate.
Keep em poor dumb and Democrat.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:24 PM
The Socialist are better organized than we are and hungrier to win. Although, it being this close (as opposed to Gillibrands sweep) they are falling behind.
Punchenko on March 31, 2009 at 11:24 PM
It is socialism but with a powerful financial order on top. It will be megacorporations merged with government financed by the international bankers. Think fascism, Mussolini on a global level with a world central bank. It is pure evil and being implemented as we speak.
Eyes to see and ears to hear.
True_King on March 31, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Yes, facts are cumbersome and hard to process… Now spending more than Republicans… no problem.
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Don’t forget pregnant, to produce MORE dems.
HornetSting on March 31, 2009 at 11:25 PM
After seeing all the supposed “OHIO” residents coming from out of state to vote and then go home and fill out absentee ballots,I have to say I am more than a little nervous about the outcome of these ballots.
Either way,democrats hold the majorities in the House,Senate,and have the White House.
They have been telling everybody how much smarter they are and that “Hope and Change” is here.
Well there is some “change” coming and negotiating through allies,UN,and EU to address terrorist/genocidal regimes is the “smartest” way to deal with this according to liberals.
Bush went the UN route that is supposed to use world wide pressure to produce results but only brings failures like Rwanda and Darfur when dealing with terrorist regimes.
Bush was criticized and called a war criminal for actually bringing REAL CHANGE in Iraq.
Now the “smart ones” are going to have to back up their rhetoric if they can get their leader Obama to pull himself away from NCAA brackets,talk shows,and bashing Rush to confront this:
Netanyahu to Obama: Stop Iran—Or I Will
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200903u/netanyahu
Obama’s appearance and speaking skills don’t have the same effect on serious threats around the world like they do in hollywood.
It is going to take more than videos and appeasement for the Iranian regime to take the Paparazzi President seriously:
Iranians Respond to Obama’s Internet Greeting… Chant “Death to America” (Video)
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/iranians-respond-to-obamas-internet.html#links
Maybe democrats can just change the term “all out war in the middle east” to “playground disagreement in the sand”.
Calling the domestic terrorist Ayer’s acts of bombing “vandalism” and referring to terrorist acts as “man made disasters” has made all the difference in the world.
Baxter Greene on March 31, 2009 at 11:25 PM
HornetSting:
No kidding. Just think how different history might have been if Bill Clinton had spent as much of his time in the Oval Office concentrating on bad guys like Osama and Saddam as he did with his pants around his ankles.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:26 PM
No, I think the moto hear is, “abort, abort, abort, but if that fails, keep them dumb.”
Upstater85 on March 31, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Hey! Leave Bristol out of this! She tried abstinence like her mom suggested. It just didn’t work out – ok???
capitulus on March 31, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I understand your thinking. I disagree with it, but I don’t consider it beyond the pale, since we can all see the denigration of national sovereignty that has been taking place. I do not subscribe to your Fed theory because there are many events that have happened for which no one could have reasonably predicted what our government’s, and our nation’s, reaction to them. I have often disagreed with Fed policy (I think that recessions must be allowed on a somewhat regular basis, as they seem to naturally occur) but I see much of it in the same way I see conservative justices on the SCOTUS who turn liberal after a little while. It’s not so much a question of whether they believe in the liberal ideas, but that they don’t have the strength to remain conservative in the face of unpopular decisions they should be making. It’s tough to be a Scalia for so long. It’s easier to rule for some single mothers and be showered with love from millions, even if it is errant legal thinking. I see the same in the Fed. I don’t think Alan Greenspan ever wanted the US dollar to suffer, but he didn’t have enough guts to restrict money and possibly be blamed for “throwing an election”. Add that to the huge amount of cowardice in our government, in general, and it just makes for bad policy and eventual problems.
Now, with BHO, there is no question about why he wants to destroy the dollar, and has set out to do that, and it has nothing to do with the financial sector, which he plans to have run by the government, anyway. On top of that, for BHO, he wants to exact revenge on the US and the Western world, so he’s just looking to inflict as much damage as he can, calculating that he’ll be the one in charge when the dollar crumbles and martial law is necessary. I just don’t think he understands that things will not go as smoothly as he thinks. That’s how I see it.
progressoverpeace on March 31, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Yep, HornetSting, they like em barefoot and pregnant and registered to vote.
Terrye on March 31, 2009 at 11:27 PM
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