I agree we need to have friends in the Muslim world, but I think we fool ourselves about who are really our friends in the Muslim world and how far we can trust them to remain friends.

Subsunk on March 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM

I’ve met at least five of them. I won’t name them because the Islamofascists would be after them.

Really? Pro-American? Name five of them.

Subsunk on March 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Agreed, the vast majority (over 66%) of muslims support jihad, global Islamic conquest and the imposition of sharia law.

Over 50% of Pakistanis consider Osama bin Laden a hero. People in the West want to believe the “radicals muslims” are maybe 1% of the muslim population because they’re terrified of facing the reality that we’re at war against at least half if not more of the muslim population.

A century ago there was only about 100 million muslims but their population has grown 10 fold and continues to keep growing like a bacteria. This should be disconcerting for all free nations since Islam is a supremacist, fascist totalitarian ideology that strives to dominate others.

Our elites haven’t even begun to ask serious questions about this global plague (Islam), let alone begin to work to resist and defeat it. Unfortunately the longer we take to wake up the more blood, lives and treasure it’ll cost. In the meantime Islam continues to chip away at our rights and freedoms using intimdation, lawfare and are building their numbers to eventually overwhelm us and take over.

As the siege ended, black-clad Pakistani commandos fired their guns in the air in celebration at the top of the building, shouting “God is Great!” and “Long live Punjab police!”

Could you imagine our security or police professionals acting out in this way? Yet it’s commom practice over there.
What’s the definition of a country below third world status? um … medieval?

And nobody should delude themselves into thinking Pakistan is an ally. They’re part of the 57 Islamic nations OIC group that is trying to force retarded muslims norms on us all, killing free speech and threatening western leaders. They’ve gotten pork banned in the G20 summit and our leaders are caving to their thuggery.

We have no dog in this fight except ourselves and fellow democracies like India, Israel, Europe-who can also be great allies. We should find a way to take away their nukes though so they don’t get into the Taliban/AQ’s hands.

Let the muslims annihilate each other and arm both sides since we’re too squeamish to do the killing ourselves. We should’ve done the same in Iraq. Democracy will fail there as long as Islam is permitted (look at Turkey).

These savages don’t want to live in the 21st century and they want to drag us all back to the dark ages. We should be dropping daisy cutters in their countries right now ffs.

I agree that the ones who seem to follow the Koran closest are our enemies, but there are hundreds of millions who call themselves Muslim who also call themselves pro-American.

jgapinoy on March 30, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Really? Pro-American?

Name five of them.

Subsunk

By now you’ve probably heard that Islamists stormed a Pakistani police training station, killing 11 before they themselves were killed. I’ll direct you to Ed Morrissey’s post on the matter for the details. As for me, things look grim in……

Hundreds of millions of Muslims who call themselves pro Americans? Now there is an empty legacy from W likely to cause many lives in the future.

Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISI,Paki army – these are all pretty much the same, nowadays. But nothing to worry here, “most” Pakistanis are “moderates” and they dont support the Tollybon!

i’m getting the impression from the comments here that the govt of Pakistan is so weak & in some ways scared of the terrorists & therefore don’t want to hunt down the terrorists because then the govt will be toppled.

is this what yall are saying?

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 9:51 AM

I think the government is only as strong as the army is loyal. The government is worried that a fight against the Taliban might fragment the army since many of its officers and soldiers sympathize with the terrorists and the taliban more than they do with Pakistan’s government. This could topple the government.

Best to secure them ourselves, now.

If our leaders had any brains or cojones it would have already been done.

The waiting will be murder.

For those who end up on the receiving end of one.

is this what yall are saying?

That AP story you link to conflates the number of Pakistani civilians and police killed with the terrorists who caused the carnage. 19 dead? Well, only when you tally up the 8 police, 3 civilians and 8 terrorists.

Rather than report that 14 terrorists murdered 11 Pakistanis in a brazen raid, this is the kind of reporting we get.

The series of attacks in Lahore will press the civilian government into taking some kind of action.

What would that be:
- A different font on the next “peace agreement.”
- Yield more land to the terrorists\rebels.
- Allow Babu to come back to America and reopen his restaurant.

Sounds like this country deserves a military dictatorship.