New owner of GM: I’m pretty sure we’re not going to run GM

posted at 3:48 pm on March 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

Sure, he might have to boot a CEO now and then, but it’s not like R&D will be running the specs on the new hybrid by Geithner for approval, right? This reminds me of Steinbrenner’s infamous announcement after he bought the Yankees that he wouldn’t be involved in the day-to-day operations of the team. Before you knew it, he was firing managers left and right. Just think of Wagoner as Obama’s Billy Martin.

You know what’s always helpful, too, when trying to scare a failing industry into reforming itself? Promising that “we cannot, we must not, and we will not let our auto industry simply vanish.” Over to you, Kaus:

After visibly defenstrating GM CEO RIck Wagoner, and moving to replace the board of directors, won’t Obama now “own” the GM problem? If the company shuts down in the near future, costing tens of thousands of blue collar jobs, it will be under executives implicitly or explicitly chosen by Obama. It will be Obama’s failure, not simply GM’s failure, no? A public sector failure, not just a business failure. Doesn’t that make it harder, not easier, for the administration to walk away and force the company into bankruptcy (if, for example, the company’s plans for “viability” continue to fall short after the new 60-day deadline)? And doesn’t that, in turn, make extracting the necessary concessions (by threatening bankruptcy) more difficult as well?

Indeed. The One’s not just pumping money into this sinkhole, he’s pumping political capital. Which means that while he might control GM’s fate for the moment, increasingly GM will control his. Exit question: Did the new chairman consult with the rest of the “board of directors” before canning Wagoner? Exit answer: No, he did not.



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HHHMMMM…..Sounds like we’re getting closer to Communism than Socialism!!!
HarryStar on March 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Technically, Communism is government-enforced redistribution of wealth among individuals, and Socialism is government ownership of businesses.

But after a certain point, the distinction becomes irrelevant. If the government has distributed all the wealth, then it is de-facto owner of all businesses. And if the government owns all the businesses, then it also distributes all the wealth of its citizen-employees.

Stalin figured that out a very long time ago, and realized the best approach is to simply incorporate both philosphies into the system from the beginning.

Pure Socialism died with the Axis, and pure Communism is just sort of festering in China and a few of its allies. For the past fifty years, just about every other country in the world (including the US) has been steadily pursuing the Stalinist approach to collectivism.

logis on March 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

I’m pretty sure we’re not going to ruin GM

That was just too easy to avoid.

thomasaur on March 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Well, I honestly had been mulling over buying a new Camaro, but there’s no way I’ll order one now. Who wants to own an Obamobile?

Good thing I still have my Reagan-era 1982 Berlinetta.

Logic on March 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Headstone with “General Motors 1908-2009″)

Christien on March 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM

American Capitalism: 1776-2009

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Problem is……you can only go left.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 30, 2009 at 4:20 PM

“Uh, turn, uh, left, in, uh, fifty, uh, metres.”

/Two wrongs don’t make a right, but three lefts do!

Christien on March 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

The government now owns GM, for better or for worse. Just like they own AIG.

unclesmrgol on March 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

QuickLube: $29.95

ObamaLube: free

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Quicklube: Ina and out in 20 minutes

Obamalube: 3 month waiting list. 3 hours to service the vehicle and they forget to actually fill the oil after they drain it. When your engine seizes before you even pull out, they hand you a government 800 number to call to see about collecting on your government warranty. A year later you’re still trying to get your car fixed.

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

The Steinbrenner of GM……wont actually run it…..but he’ll change the coach/mgt 3x per year

sbark on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Reagan’s “open season on workers” belief system: 1981-2009

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

GM has announced it would begin production on the Volt at the end of next year and expected to price the four-passenger car to be around $40,000 — more than double many compact cars. The car will have a range of about 40 miles on its fully charged batteries and then use a gasoline engine to extend its range for up to 200 more miles.

I wonder if I can get a no money down adjustable rate mortgage to get one of these?

Caper29 on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Just wondering, now that Urkel owns GM will he continue sponsoring Limbaugh?

repvoter on March 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I happened to catch Hannity a few days ago going on and on about how great GM cars were and how everyone should by one.

MB4 on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

You have them the wrong way around.

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

2008 – Obama Lied, Journalism Died
2009 – Obama Lied, Capitalism Died

That’s change. What’s next?

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Well, three lefts still makes a left.

Kini on March 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Dateline June 12th 2011
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After numerous failed attempts to fill top positions at GM, the Obama administration has decided to allow the company to operate in the same way that the Treasury has for the past 2 years… Under staffed, unguided, and mostly unmanned at the higher levels, while running balls to the wall so far as printing and shipping go (or car making and parking out back in GM’s case).
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Critics say that this is an unsustainable situation, but administration spokesman Robert Gibbs told us that people said the same thing about him and he’s still Press Secretary, he thinks. Actually, he said that he’ll get back to us on that one.
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RalphyBoy on March 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Someone should draw a political cartoon of a side-view mirror:

Objects Closer Than They Appear

(Headstone with “General Motors 1908-2009″)

Christien on March 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Add the TOTUS navagation system and the Left Turns only sign… If only I could draw.

petunia on March 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM

When GM’s new business model fails (i.e., gob’ment controlled), then we can blame Mein Fuhrer.

And he won’t be able to pull any of that “previous administration” and “I’m the president” bull.

madmonkphotog on March 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

MB4 on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Does buying an Oldsmobile, though it is used, count?

Mine looks and performs a lot better than various imports, and eats Civics and Accords for lunch.

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

this won’t affect GM union employees at all. they will continue to draw their wages & sit around & wait for instruction on how to build a VOLT.

meanwhile, car dealers are not happy. but then again, they are capitalists.

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

ObamaLube: free

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

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I don’t care how much lube he uses… the answer is still NO!
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RalphyBoy on March 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

This move by Obama is nothing more than a “pay back” to the unions. This will become very clear in the days to come. Using our money while we all suffer to further an agenda that will only harm all of us; this has me seeing red… Politicians on both sides of the isle have failed us beyond anything nightmare scenario I could have ever come up with. Specter is right in the thick of it also…

Yesterday, National Right to Work Committee president Mark Mix took Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) to task in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review for what has been characterized as a cynical political move. Facing intense grassroots pressure and a tough primary battle, Specter announced he, for now, would not support the Card Check Forced Unionism bill (a.k.a. EFCA). This sounded like good news, but not so fast…

As Mark Mix reports, thousands of Pennsylvanians have urged the five-term Senator to vote against the union boss power grab which would force millions of American workers into union collectives without even the benefit of the secret ballot.

The legislation also wipes out certain National Right to Work Foundation-won employee rights while giving Obama administration bureaucrats the unprecedented power to impose terms and conditions of employment on private-sector employees and employers.

But Mix pointed out that rather than taking a firm, principled stand against this coercive, job-killing bill, Specter is instead advocating “compromises” which would have the same basic effect: forcing more workers into forced-dues-paying union ranks. Specter even suggested he will renew his support for the Card Check Forced Unionism Bill in its present form if his own forced unionism proposals fall flat – or when the economy claws its way to recovery.

Keemo on March 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

hey, GM is not going to fail because bambi has decreed it. and he has control of the money machine & everything else.

however, its stock won’t be worth anything because it is owned by the govt. & will never have the capability of making a profit ever again.

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Great. Now we can have some Chicago-style political quid pro quo for appointment to corporate boards.

patriette on March 30, 2009 at 4:41 PM

madmonkphotog on March 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

He set the stage for failure. There are folks in the South who want to make sure it fails. There are other countries (Mexico, Brazil, Japan, Korea, China) that want it to fail. There’s only so much you can put on any government to run it.

You’ll have to do better than that to blame Obama.

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:41 PM

meanwhile, car dealers are not happy. but then again, they are capitalists.

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

A few months ago, GM asked their ad agency to cut their bills by 20% and with today’s news, they may be announcing big layoffs at the agency fairly soon.

sherry on March 30, 2009 at 4:42 PM

At least GM no longer needs to worry about government regulations; laws never apply to the government.

Can I get a model with a nitrous oxide system already installed, maybe with a shiny red “Overcharge” button that kicks it in?

malclave on March 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Obamalube: 3 month waiting list. 3 hours to service the vehicle and they forget to actually fill the oil after they drain it.

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Obama will put Jethro in charge of GM product maintenance.

(Jethro and Cousin Pearl are driving in the truck to Jed’s place]
Cousin Pearl: Jethro, did you take care of those old brakes like I told you to?
Jethro: Yes, Ma, I pulled them off the truck yesterday. The new brakes should be coming in the mail next week.

MB4 on March 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

PappaMac on March 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

about the ad agency. why did GM continue to advertise when it was having all this bailout trouble?

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

You had ample warning to come to peaceful terms with GM and its workers. Now is the reckoning for continuing to bash them.

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Just think of Wagoner as Obama’s Billy Martin.

**whoosh**

Ortzinator on March 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Does buying an Oldsmobile, though it is used, count?

Mine looks and performs a lot better than various imports, and eats Civics and Accords for lunch.

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I had a Chevy Camaro 396 that ate just about everything for lunch. Problem is it also ate itself.

MB4 on March 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

I think it’s probably time to link again to that old classic: The Incredible Bread Machine.

notropis on March 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

malclave on March 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

With GM, you don’t need VTEC stickers, oversized spoilers or nitrous oxide. The power you’re wanting comes standard, not $75k later.

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Exit question: Did the new chairman consult with the rest of the “board of directors” before canning Wagoner? Exit answer: No, he did not.

From the link it seems that, according to Sen. Carl Levin (D-Michigan) Obama did not consult the Senate, rather, he informed them.

Obama told the members of Congress that Wagoner needed to resign so that the administration could show the public it was making an effort at a fresh start with helping the auto industry, according to Levin.”

Do these words make the purge official?

Arbalest on March 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I tried to read some of the details of this and what Obama had against Waggoner was that he couldn’t do anything about the pensions and healthcare benefits in union contracts.

So now what? Will the Unions cave to Obama? Or does Obama even want them to?

Does this make Obama one of those evil business owners now? And IF Obama ever gives up power will he get a retirement package as a former CEO of GM?

petunia on March 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM

GM
Government Made
Government Motors
Government Mandated
Gone Moonbat
Goodbye Michigan

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Well, well, well….

Under Wagoner, GM gave big to GOP

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Just wondering, now that Urkel owns GM will he continue sponsoring Limbaugh?

repvoter on March 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I’m sure Carville, Rahm etc. were all for the takeover, just for that reason.

hawksruleva on March 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

One more reason why government ownership of private industries is such a bad idea… companies are so tightly connected with each other that unforeseen (or at least unadvertised) complications are inevitable. I wonder how thrilled GM’s suppliers are to watch their biggest customer transform into a quasi-governmental agency run by egotistical politicians eternally in search of new scapegoats. Allowing a little bit of fascism into a free market is like becoming a little bit pregnant.

Doctor Zero on March 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM

“Each are going to do their part.”

Drive it like you stole it, Barry. Remember to torch her when you’re done.

Christien on March 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

I had a Chevy Camaro 396 that ate just about everything for lunch. Problem is it also ate itself.

MB4 on March 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Fine enough, but I don’t think the imports of choice from the Far East are really catching on to making that affordable.

Until then, I’ll buy used if I have to.

As a side note, is there a way to bust the union and deny Detroit’s enemies a cheap shot victory?

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

When GM’s new business model fails (i.e., gob’ment controlled), then we can blame Mein Fuhrer.

madmonkphotog on March 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Hitler gave us the Volkswagen Obama will give us the Chevy Barackmobile. It will be like the Flinstone cars where you put your feet through the floorboards and push becuase gas will be scarce and expensive by then.

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Seminar commenters, please stop defending the President with canned platitudes and bizarre “teh workerz suffer B cuz of Rethuglican greeeeeeeeed” non-sequiturs and rationally explain the overall benefit to the average person of a government-run American automobile manufacturer in the modern global economy.

ScottMcC on March 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Eventually, most of the trolls and lefties etc will have to admit that this has gone far beyond where it needed to go. It’s not about reviving anything. It is about controlling everything.
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Just a simple moment of truth… That’s all it takes. Put down the Cool-Aid and admit the facts out loud to yourself. Use a mirror if that helps. Obama has stepped completely beyond the bounds of the Constitution and is attempting to become dictator.
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It is so easy to see as to make the charade that the trolls play here and elsewhere laughable, as in: insane.
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Just admit the truth. Obama is attempting to become dictator and you are okay with that.
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RalphyBoy on March 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

The government Federal Reserve now owns GM, for better or for worse. Just like they own AIG.

unclesmrgol on March 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

We own the note, much like you “own” your home when you get a mortgage.

True_King on March 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

I believe the budget was drastically cut but advertising is pretty crucial to the auto industry at a corporate and local/dealer level. It’s the lure of the deal and who has the best one available when you are ready to go car-shopping.

sherry on March 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Abrogate your responsibilites, you surrender your rights.

Liberal Fascism, Goldberg’s book, has a nice run down of all the ‘isms’. They are all variations on the same statist socialism and all lead to tyranny. One of the points he makes it that the practitioners of the faiths for the most part hate practitioners of other ‘ism’ faiths. This leads to some strange results. Like Hitler’s NAZIs hating Mussolini’s Fascists and Stalin’s Communists. This puts just enough daylight, to what is essentially the same with different branding and minimum real differences.

What results is the modern statist liberals then use it like so, the NAZIs are the ‘right’s socialists’, when nothing could be further from the truth.

It is critical to recognize that they are all the same, not a dimes worth of distance between these statist socialists utopias — And they all fail, some faster than others.

Marx was a socialists and didn’t particularly like Communists:

The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property. Karl Marx

There is a specter haunting Europe, the specter of Communism. Karl Marx

What differs is how the supporters say they have the answer, not the differences in what the question is.

tarpon on March 30, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Well, well, well….

Under Wagoner, GM gave big to GOP

faraway on March 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM

And advertised heavily on conservative talk radio…

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 4:57 PM

I’m confused about whether the Feds have an equity position in GM or not. If the Feds are lenders only, what are the terms of the loans? If I were an existing stock-holder, I’m not sure I wouldn’t want to rethink my position if Obama, and not the board, is actually running things. If Obama is in charge, the stock-holders are not and their investment is at risk.

littleguy on March 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

To my fellow members of the new Proletariat, Greetings!. All hail Obama, the most merciful, who takes the burden of our miserable wages upon himself, in order to create a more perfect Socialist Nation. The Government he is creating will provide for us from cradle to grave. There is no need to burden ourselves with such unimportant things as motivation and personal freedom anymore. The Government will tell us how to live our lives.

Isn’t it wonderful? There’s only one problem with Mr. President’s plans. Socialism never works. I hope Obama’s plans fail miserably. Make no mistake, we are just beginning to see his plans unfurl. May God protect us.

kingsjester on March 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Okay, my side hurts. How embarrassing to be fired by a man with zero executive management skills. Zero. A person who has done nothing to build tangible value in products or services that could be sold to a customer for cash is now some kind of expert. Really my side hurts. It almost split wide open when I heard El Presidente talk about investing in the company to build the kind of cars the market wants and bring GM back to profitability. Stop it already! Stop it! The real joke isn’t in what he said. Sounds good ya know. It’s in the fact that he has no credible skills or experience that would make a reasonable person say “Oh yeah, he’s definitely going to fix GM in a couple of months.” Something GM or the other car makers haven’t been able to do in three decades as international competition has kicked the crap out of them. “Oh yeah, he knows what to do!” Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Acura…your days are numbered! We got da Man in charge now!

I can now scratch one more thing off my Bucket List:

Laugh until I cry!

C’mon stop it! STOP!! ENOUGH Already!!!

timajin on March 30, 2009 at 5:05 PM

If Obama is in charge, the stock-holders are not and their investment is at risk.

littleguy on March 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

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Quoteth Obama…
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There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses — now is not that time. And that’s a message that I intend to send directly to them,”
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RalphyBoy on March 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Isn’t it wonderful? There’s only one problem with Mr. President’s plans. Socialism never works. I hope Obama’s plans fail miserably. Make no mistake, we are just beginning to see his plans unfurl. May God protect us.

kingsjester on March 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Tax-cheat Tim says that in the future, wages won’t matter so much. My family seems to hold a somewhat different opinion — wonder why?

littleguy on March 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM

little guy: i’m not sure of the technical answer to your question, but here is the realistic one: the feds have so invested OUR money in GM, that the feds own it whether it is a stock purchase or not. the CEO doesn’t step down by the President’s command (without notice to the Board of Directors) unless the Feds own it.

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Obama formally announced Monday morning that he was rejecting restructuring plans submitted by GM and Chrysler because they would not make the two automakers viable.

and who actually made this determination, the tax cheat or the community organizer?

Ann on March 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Quoteth Obama…
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“There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses — now is not that time. And that’s a message that I intend to send directly to them,”
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RalphyBoy on March 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

little guy: i’m not sure of the technical answer to your question, but here is the realistic one: the feds have so invested OUR money in GM, that the feds own it whether it is a stock purchase or not. the CEO doesn’t step down by the President’s command (without notice to the Board of Directors) unless the Feds own it.

kelley in virginia on March 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM

You gotta love Obamanomics! He did say things would change, but ….. Next up, the lawyers — how in God’s name are they gonna sort this all out?? So, its goodbye GM, right?!! “Time to be patriotic, time to stand up” — time for a latter-day Volkswagen!! Oops, that can’t be good!!!

littleguy on March 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

and who actually made this determination, the tax cheat or the community organizer?

Ann on March 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Good question. Were they sent to anyone actually qualified to evaluate them?

INC on March 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Come on Down to Barry O’s Chevrolet at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. We’ve got a wide selection of new Government Made Chevrolets with Government Warranties to sell you.

And this week, and this week only, we are offering Government sponsored Fannie Mae auto loans at 0% for 60 months! No credit check and no income verification necessary! Everybody’s accepted! You won’t be turned down! I guarantee it!

So come on down to Barry O’s where we won’t be undersold!

TheBigOldDog on March 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Reagan’s “open season on workers” belief system: 1981-2009

sethstorm on March 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Idiocy of libtard trolls: never-ending

AZCoyote on March 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Will GM stay in NASCAR??? Does Chicago Jesus like NASCAR?? Bill France Sr. and Dale Earnhardt Sr. are shaking their heads right now.

Dire Straits on March 30, 2009 at 5:26 PM

They will never be able to sell the gumminent imposed green cars unless until gas is somewhere north of four dollars a gallon. Five or six would be better.

Uhhhbama was on TV a few minutes ago. My wife said “Look at how fast he’s blinking. That shows he’s lieing”

If the Japanese car makers are smart they will start cranking out the bigger cars – you know, the kind of cars people WANT

darwin-t on March 30, 2009 at 5:27 PM

New owner of GM: I’m pretty sure we’re not going to run GM

I’m pretty sure you’re not going to, either, Barry. Except into the ground, maybe.

uncivilized on March 30, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Will he get to name cars after his wife and daughters?

GarandFan on March 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I can see the Michelle Obama vehicle now: mean looking headlights, a disproportionately-sized grill, thick tires, and a huge back end.

AZCoyote on March 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I think this is outrageous. I heard there were rumors that Obama was going to get rid of the Board as well.

So much for property rights. Heil Obama.

Terrye on March 30, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Which part of restructuring do cons not understand?

Geez beckers.

getalife on March 30, 2009 at 5:45 PM

So, lemme get this straight. . .

Joe Citizen buys one of these new Volts at 40K in a down economy, then Joe gets in a wreck and is paralyzed because the air bag didn’t deploy. . . .

Joe now has to sue the government?

Yeah, that’ll cost us some taxpayer trillions of dolla’s right there.

Jason Coleman on March 30, 2009 at 5:46 PM

This was inevitable the moment the Big 3 asked for bailout money. I said to a friend in the auto industry during the bailout hearings on TV, “you’re looking at your new board of directors.”

I’ve owned an Oldsmobile Cutlass, a Buick Regal, a Chevy Monte Carlo and a GMC Sierra Grande, and I’ll never buy another GM vehicle. I expect I’ll get 200,000 miles out of my Honda, too, so it’s not like I was in any hurry.

DrSteve on March 30, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Which part of restructuring do cons not understand?

Geez beckers.

getalife on March 30, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Restructuring is like when mouses had two balls. Then, they had just one. Nowadays, they have no balls at all — just a teensy laser pointer.

Obama Franks Waters LLC

unclesmrgol on March 30, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Socialism is the ownership of the means of production by the State on behalf of the Proletariat.

Sounds like he’s right on track to me!

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM

RIP General Motors. We hardly knew ye.

SKYFOX on March 30, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Coming this Fall.. The GM Quagmire!

No more blood for Detroit.

DrW on March 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM

veritable fountain of obama cadillac jokes about to erupt in 5..4..3..2..1

DrW on March 30, 2009 at 6:18 PM

I’m never buying a GM car again. I had an idea for my own car though, and I may just build one.

Problem is, all the car body styles I liked were American.

*sighs*

Chaz706 on March 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Yes, well, this is why fascist economic systems like Obama is creating tend to end the messy process of elections, and so don’t need to worry about wasting political capital.

blue13326 on March 30, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Obama needs an OnStar button. This fool is always lost & in trouble.

portlandon on March 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I hear the 2010 Model TOTUS will have one as an option.

NY Conservative on March 30, 2009 at 6:27 PM

I was going to purchase a new Camaro too.

But NO Obamobile for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After all the BAILOUT money Tax payers should get new cars at no charge. WE ALREADY PAID FOR THEM.

JihadKiller1s1k on March 30, 2009 at 6:34 PM

I can see the Michelle Obama vehicle now: mean looking headlights, a disproportionately-sized grill, thick tires, and a huge back end.

AZCoyote on March 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I was thinkin Mater myself

NY Conservative on March 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM

NO MORE BRIDGES TO DETROIT!!!!!!!!!!!

GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE CAR BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JihadKiller1s1k on March 30, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Every time the One pulls one of these brilliant moves, W curses under his breath and says, “Dang it! Just a few hands of Texas Hold’em and I could have had that whole stinkin’ book advance!”

smellthecoffee on March 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

I can see the Michelle Obama vehicle now: mean looking headlights, a disproportionately-sized grill, thick tires, and a huge back end.

AZCoyote on March 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Yeah. Gotta have room for all that ‘junk in the trunk’.

BillH on March 30, 2009 at 7:00 PM

From the jocks to the socks.

But let’s be realistic here. It has nothing to do with the auto industry.

It has everything to do with the 1 to 2 million votes that are ironclad with the government guaranteeing the survival of the UAW, and even more tellingly, of the retirees pensions and health benefits.

Do ya think that might have somethin to do with it?

notagool on March 30, 2009 at 7:08 PM

GM IF YOU LAY DOWN FOR THIS YOU WILL LOSE ME AS A CUSTOMER FOR LIFE.OBAMA YOU BETTER READ THE CONSTITUTION .JUDGE ROBERTS PLEASE GET OFF OF YOUR CHAIR AND SLAP THIS COMMIE DOWN

wade underhile on March 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM

but it’s not like R&D will be running the specs on the new hybrid by Geithner for approval, right?

Uhm, wrong.

radiofreevillage on March 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Not sure if it’s been mentioned but Obama should ask for the union local president’s resignation as well. Then maybe GM might be viable again.

Big John on March 30, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Socialism is the ownership of the means of production by the State on behalf of the Proletariat.

Sounds like he’s right on track to me!

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM

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How often were you dropped on your head as a baby?

darktood on March 30, 2009 at 8:40 PM

GM has announced it would begin production on the Volt at the end of next year and expected to price the four-passenger car to be around $40,000 —

hmmmmm- LETS DO THE MATH.
2009 HONDA ACCORD lx – invoice about 19500.
29 mpg hwy.23 city
gas = 2.25/gal
40,000.00-19,500.00 = 20,500
20,500/2.25 = 9111 gals of gas
you only have to drive the volt 209,555 mile to hit break even point.
this doesn’t take ino account increased finance charges, insurance costs , etc.
hmmmmmmm

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on March 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Quick question – how does the heater, defroster and air conditioner work in an electric or hybrid car?

darwin-t on March 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM

So… we have a social worker running GM and Chrysler. God be merciful to us.

When will libs wake up? (Stupid question I know…)

Mojave Mark on March 30, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Quick question – how does the heater, defroster and air conditioner work in an electric or hybrid car?

darwin-t on March 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Not overly long answer, Darwin-t- On a hybrid, the HVAC will function identically to a “normal” car- that is, you will have a cooling system feeding the heater, the A/C compressor will be driven by the motor, and the defroster will continue to vent out to the windshield much as it always has. I’m not 100% positive on the electric car, but I can imagine that as you drive, the drive motor will power the compressor (it may wind up cycling on/off to conserve power- A/C takes quite a bit to power it), and there may be a smaller drive motor dedicated to the compressor (again, with the on/off cycling) to run the A/C during extended idling times. The heater may wind up being a couple of different things- it could be a heated oil or liquid type, much like a radiator type heater in your house, or it could be a resistive wire type (you know- where the wires glow, and send out heat), or it may wind up being a combination. Keep in mind that this is all very power-intensive, and requires a lot of energy to operate. The defroster may be akin to the regular car type, directing warm air from the liquid radiator heater, or it could be a grid or a metallic film that is switched on- just like the rear defrost on your car. Note that the film-type requires “I think” 240VAC to power that up- it needs a special, very expensive alternator to run.

BillH on March 31, 2009 at 1:18 AM

Fascism, Socialism vs Neo-Socialism

Fascism means you can do what you want except when it contradicts the state’s interests. This generally means both individuals and business.

In the traditional Socialism model you have government running business and distributing profits.

In the Neo-Socialist model you can do however you want, but the state will take most of your profits(business) or income(individual) and redistribute them as they see fit.

In the end its not liberty and therefore unacceptable, but its crazy how people see the above three scenarios as that different…

DavidM on March 31, 2009 at 8:41 AM

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