Obama on troops in Pakistan: Never mind
posted at 12:00 pm on March 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Three days after his administration strongly hinted that President Obama would order American troops into Pakistan when targets became open, Obama himself reversed that position. In an interview with the Associated Press, Obama said he respected Pakistani sovereignty and foresaw no reason to violate it — at least not with ground troops:
As he carries out a retooled strategy in Afghanistan, President Barack Obama says he will consult with Pakistan’s leaders before pursuing terrorist hideouts in that country.
Obama said U.S. ally Pakistan needs to be more accountable, but ruled out deploying U.S. troops there. “Our plan does not change the recognition of Pakistan as a sovereign government,” the president told CBS’ “Face the Nation” in an interview broadcast Sunday. …
Without directly referring to the strikes, Obama said: “If we have a high-value target within our sights, after consulting with Pakistan, we’re going after them. But our main thrust has to be to help Pakistan defeat these extremists.”
Asked if he meant he would put U.S. troops on the ground in Pakistan, Obama said: “No.” He noted that Pakistan is a sovereign nation and said: “We need to work with them and through them to deal with al-Qaida. But we have to hold them much more accountable.”
That’s different than what the administration said on Thursday. As Wired reported, it sounded like Obama had decided just the opposite:
President Obama has just laid out his new war strategy. And he’s made it clear that the fight is both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. So I asked Dennis McDonough, with the National Security Council: Does that mean U.S. ground forces in Pakistan? Or more drone attacks? “I’m not going to comment on the notions you laid out there,” he answered, during a White House conference call with bloggers.
But during a separate press conference, Bruce Reidel, who recently completed a strategy review of the region for the White House, offered some hints. “Thus far, our policy sees Afghanistan and Pakistan as two countries, but one theater of operations for our diplomacy, and one challenge for our overall policy,” he said. “We have very concrete proposals for increasing economic assistance to Pakistan, proposals that have already been put forward by the Congress. We’re also looking at what we can do on the military side.”
Michele Flournoy, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, added, “I certainly believe we are going to be increasing our intelligence focus in this [Afghan-Pakistan] theater, and as opportunities arise that may increase the pace of operations, as well.”
“One theater” suggests no boundaries for US troops, a perception that the administration did not reject when explicitly asked on Thursday. Today, Obama has rejected it, although he threatened to invade Pakistan with American ground troops as a candidate. So is this “smart power”, or simply chaotic and fumbling messaging from the White House?
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More selective patriotism coming from liberals that called Iraq “Bush’s war” since 2003.
Could you at least pretend to know what you are talking about.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Which part do you not?
Count to 10 on March 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM
We know you are a liar, so we’ll take that as a ….. Nope.
fogw on March 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM
The part where you’re lying through your teeth.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Sweetie, they’re not the lynch mob.
If the troops are reading this, we all appreciate your sacrifices to ensure the safety of our country, and we’re sorry your CIC is an idiot. We didn’t vote for him. Hopefully, he will not unnecessarily endanger your lives, and you can come home safely to your families soon.
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM
retired.
Count to 10 on March 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM
You got that right and they would take me.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM
The only “independent” you are is an independent contractor for the DNC or one of Soros’ groups who gets paid to try to disrupt a conservative website.
kingsjester on March 29, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Thanks
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 2:43 PM
You wouldn’t last ten seconds in our world.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Improve your mind.
Buy a dictionary.
Have someone teach you how to use it.
fogw on March 29, 2009 at 2:43 PM
An independent critiques both sides and usually uses facts as a guide.
Two things you have never done on this blog.
You are simply a liberal that is too embarrassed and weak to
admit it.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Oh good news, getalife! The Marines have apparently also heard about you and now they want
to get their hands on youwant you to join up!Just call 1-800-MARINES.
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Wow, supporting the troops and the President is “disrupting a conservative website.”
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM
A liberal will criticize your every move to make a living and then gladly write a check from your bank account, while complaining that you don’t do more.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Every Conservative on this website supports the Troops, you waste of oxygen. Nobody in their right mind would stick around a web site and take about unless a) They are an attention junkie. or b) They are getting paid for it.
Which are you?
kingsjester on March 29, 2009 at 2:49 PM
The missing part of your announcement that you have just called either the Army or Marine recruiter and are joining up. That part. You can do it. They even take girls now. And no KP anymore. For you it will be a snap.
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 2:49 PM
about=abuse
kingsjester on March 29, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Folks,
No point trifling with trolls. Take it up with Ed, Allahpundit, and Michelle. You might be surprised with the results.
Christien on March 29, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Tell us who you voted for in 2004 for President. Then we will really know if you support the troops or not.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Supporting the Troops is just a talking point for libs.
How can you support the troops when you do everything in your power to wish them failure? Oh, I forgot, support the troops and not the mission. Because GWB was POTUS. I understand completely. You feel the same way Benedict Arnold felt.
RedCoat in America.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 2:55 PM
getalife, your President needs you in Afghanistan and maybe in Pakistan. Don’t let him down.
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM
I will contact AP and Ed and ask them if they will do a special live blog when getalife graduates BCT.
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM
She is a commie scumbag on govt. assistance with the communication skills of an indoctrinated 5th grader. She is not an independent as her posts readily show. I won’t lift her rock as it is useless. I would lift it though if I could slam it back down before she could slither out from undeneath.
thomasaur on March 29, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Hey Mr. Proud Independent, we’ve seen you use the term “cons” about a thousand times on this site, yet we’ve never seen you use the term “libs”.
Explain.
Oh that’s right, you can’t.
fogw on March 29, 2009 at 2:59 PM
C*nt Und*rstand N*rmal Th*nking
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Day late, dollar short.
“You” and “Your” people did the damage to the military and the war effort right up until Inauguration Day. Thanks, we got it now. We learned to defend ourselves against the unpatriotic bastards and whores from the left for the last eight years. We really don’t need your help from the unpatriotic Hot Air regulars now.
Thanks anyway! No really, thanks all the same!
And to all the Hot Air folks who I really have read so many words of encouragement from over the years, THANK YOU from all of us in the military. You’re patriots one and all. Thank you for all of your support even when President Bush was in power. Thank you for all you did for the military. Thanks for standing up for us against trolls like GAL when their side was wishing we’d lose. Thanks for praying for our safety as they were praying for big casualty numbers in the evening news. Thanks for wishing ill against our enemies as the liberals prayed for more suicide bombers and IEDs.
Your military is not fooled for a second by Johnny Come Lately’s leftist supporters. Not for a second.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM
He is a good song for you getalife. You can sing it in BCT at 6am PT.
If I die in the Afgan drop zone
Box me up and ship me home
Cross my arms across my chest
Bury me in the front leaning rest,
Tell my President I did my best.
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Here is
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM
The best way little miss liberal can prove she is really an independent is to reference her posts of condemnation against Obama for lying and breaking these promises:
What he did next:
What he did next
Please little miss independent.
Where are your criticisms and condemnations for your liberal hero and the mounting lies and broken promises he has on his record just a few months into his Presidency.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Great post,gave me a lot to research and think about.
Very well said.
Thank you and MB4 for your service and our Freedoms.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Independent Closet Liberal= coward
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM
http://www2.morganton.com/content/2009/mar/27/letter-block-amnesty-illegals/
RealDemocrat on March 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Obama is just so confusing or confused. One day he is invading Pakistan, then he is not, then he is..is not..is..is not.
Whatever.
So, I take this means that if he has Osama in his sites and can not use a drone, he will call the Pakistani leadership and ask them if it is okay for him to go get Osama? It seems to me that he was pretty hard on McCain and Bush for letting a little thing like a border and a nation’s sovereignty get in the way of going after the bad guys. The real bad guys, not the fake bad guys like AlQaida in Iraq and Zarqawi.
Yeah, sure getalife supports the troops. smirk. snort. eye roll. sigh.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 3:19 PM
When will Obama take out the “Father of the [stolen] Islamic Bomb” A.Q. Khan?
Terrorist nuke proliferator?
I know he’s in Pock-ee-stan for sure, Barry.
profitsbeard on March 29, 2009 at 3:24 PM
BTW, I saw a headline at CNN about some Spanish judge wanting to try Alberto Gonzales and several other Bush administration officials for Gitmo etc.
Just imagine the reaction if the United States decided to start dragging Arab and European and Chinese officials off to jail for much worse.
Who even asks what goes in a French prison? How many people get locked up and lost in China? How many Arab countries routinely torture and kill without any semblance of due process. The hypocricy of these people is just stunning.
There are about 700 people at Gitmo and they have been getting all sorts of press for years. I bet there are people languishing in Turkish prisons for a lot less and a lot longer and the Spaniards could give a rat’s behind.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Thanks, but in this thread we in the military thank you Hot Air regulars. If it were not for knowing that you all are here and feel the way you do and support us the way you always have, there is no way I could do this again.
For all of you great Hot Air folks, here’s a link for the Pegasus Team as we head out. I tell our people about you all and Michelle Malkins site and how you support us. More of them read your comments than you’ll ever know and they really appreciate it.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM
I saw a headline at Fox too about Iran watching North Koreans test their missile. There is Bush’s axis of evil right there. It seems they are not in the least afraid of offending Obama or the Japanese or the Europeans or the United Nations.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 3:27 PM
ObaMcCarthy has a war table with little toy soldiers that he plays war games with. Apparently his 4000 extra troops lost his play war game in the last three days.
csdeven on March 29, 2009 at 3:31 PM
this is likely less of a policy change than it is face saving for the Pakistani government. I doubt America’s military stance has changed all that much over the last 12 months. We’ll be conducting our own war and denying that we are doing anything wrong. Pakistan looks the other way and crows about their ’sovereignty’ (which they don’t recognize over the Taliban).
ThackerAgency on March 29, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Neither. It’s simply the standard mentality of a Progressive. Whatever he says is true, for the instant he says it. Then, when he says another thing – even if it contradicts the first in reality – that second assertion is also ‘true’. The paradox is resolved by recognizing that, to a Progressive, there is no such thing as an objective fact, true independent of what anyone thinks. There is only perception and belief.
They are beyond lying because that would entail at least an implicit recognition that reality is real, no matter what anyone says or believes.
JDPerren on March 29, 2009 at 3:33 PM
On Wings of Eagles
Catch The Wind – God Bless
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Hey hey! No need to offend the rest of us! Use intelligent dialog to refute other’s claims or argue a point. Don’t just get offensive.
jusgottabeme on March 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Obama is stupid enough to trust the Pakistani government and call them first before making a strike.
Just like the super smart liberals in the Clinton administration called Afghanistan first before sending over millions of dollars of Tomahawks to blow up a camel and a couple of tents because the Afgans warned Osama of the attack.
We are being blackmailed by the Pakistanis because of supply routes and need for our money that we have no idea where it is going.They will only give us a few hits at a time to keep us in the game:
Afghan Strikes by Taliban Get Pakistan Help, U.S. Aides Say
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/world/asia/26tribal.html?pagewanted=print
By MARK MAZZETTI and ERIC SCHMITT
But of course any cooperation we get from the Pakistanis is then under cut by the “smart ones” and their “smart power”:
Good work, Feinstein: Senator blabs that U.S. drones are based in … Pakistan
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-uspakistan13-2009feb13,0,4776260.story?track=rss
“Yes We Can!!!”
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM
May your way forward be clear,
and may God have your six.
Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM
It only offends if its true. Suck it.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 3:39 PM
For all of you great Hot Air folks, here’s a link for the Pegasus Team as we head out. I tell our people about you all and Michelle Malkins site and how you support us. More of them read your comments than you’ll ever know and they really appreciate it.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM
God’s speed and success on your mission.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 3:39 PM
He’s not much of a leader, but he sure is good-looking. You gotta give him that.
Paul-Cincy on March 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM
getalife:
General Petraeus is a U.S. Army officer who is on active duty; I assure you, if he were so unwise as to make a public statement denouncing or disagreeing with his Commander in Chief, he wouldn’t be on active duty for long. It’s a matter of good management, not fear of reprisal – you never make disparaging remarks about your boss in public, nor do you give your employees a public “dressing down”.
uncivilized on March 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Please relay to your team Hawkdriver that we are praying for them and their families. We are very much behind our military no matter who happens to reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. We are going to fight back the scumbags here at home while you guys are deployed. We love each and every single one of you and cannot thank YOU enough for all you all do in protecting us and this nation. May God bless you and look over you and keep all of you safe.
freeus on March 29, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Hawk,
You make sure that you let us know when you ship out so we can intensify our prayers for you, your family, your mates, and their families. I also saw the ‘Mr. 5000′ article and I’m glad to see that I’m not the only ruggedly handsome over 50 alpha-male that visits HA.
: o )
thomasaur on March 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I can hold my breath longer than BHO can go without a gaffe or a flip-flop.
innominatus on March 29, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Hawkdriver:
Be careful, be safe, and be home as soon as you can.
My daughter is an Army Reservist, a light-wheeled vehicle mechanic, and we’re basically just waiting for them to say “when”. You and your guys (and gals) will be in our thoughts and prayers. Just make sure everyone there knows that getalife and his/her kind do not speak for the rest (or even most) of the American people.
uncivilized on March 29, 2009 at 3:46 PM
thomasaur on March 29, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Yeah, I’m here, too. Hawk, we’ve got your back. God Bless you and the rest of our fighting men and women and their families back home. You’ll be in our prayers as your battle our foreign enemies. We’ll keep vigilant back here watching our domestic ones.
kingsjester on March 29, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Much better.
You know, some Independents read this blog and see you do not welcome an Independent in your little tent.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM
A high ranking military officer once criticized his Commander in Chief, a guy who was a draft dodger and as President staged 4 aircraft carrier photo ops.
That officer was removed from his post.
The Commander in Chief was Bill Clinton.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 3:56 PM
…also because he is a pretentious, arrogant elitist who is absolutely in love with his own intellect.
uncivilized on March 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Are they going to prosecute Bush for only providing 3 full course meals a day of lemon fish,rice,chicken,and fresh vegetables or for not having enough batteries available for their gameboys:
Guantanamo detainees to have art lessons and video games to distract from jihad
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/cuba/3514028/Guantanamo-detainees-to-have-art-lessons-and-video-games-to-distract-from-jihad.html
Maybe this judge is trying to get a career in hollywood.
Everyone knows that the first step to getting work is to ignore the facts and realities of the Bush administration and make outlandish,unsubstantiated claims to be a memeber of the “in” crowd of Beverly Hills.
The reality is that Gitmo prisoners have it better than prisoners overseas of even in the US:
Review Finds Detainees’ Treatment Legal
Pentagon Report on Guantanamo Urges More Interaction for Some, Official Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/20/AR2009022002191_pf.html
By Peter Finn and Del Quentin Wilber
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, February 21, 2009; A03
But if This judge wants to go forward with this,maybe he could call these Obama administration officials to testify.
Eric Holder the Neo-con
Solicitor general nominee says ‘enemy combatants’ can be held without trial
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-solicitor-general11-2009feb11,0,7158432.story
Or better yet,maybe Spain could step up and take these prisoners off our hands.
I am sure this judge has enough room for a few at his house.
I am still waiting for the Rosie O’donell’s,Shawn Penn’s,and Susan Saradon’s to volunteer to take some of these “victims” of the Bush Administration in.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Hey, you know, that’s a great idea!!! I’m sure they’ve got plenty of room…they wouldn’t mind a bit!!!
uncivilized on March 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM
And some villagers who read this blog now know where their missing idiot is spending his time.
Cheshire Cat on March 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Just curious, how come you won’t tell us who you voted for in 2004? I’ve asked you twice now, and you’re afraid to tell us.
I’ll assume by your silence that you voted for the empty suit from Boston who said only idiots join the military and get sent to Iraq.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM
getalife:
If you are an Independent, I am Rush Limbaugh.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
My husband retired from the Marine Corps in 1998; his Certificate of Retirement has Billy Bubba’s signature on it. My husband won’t display it, for that very reason. In fact, I’m not sure where it is, but I know it’ll never see the light of day.
uncivilized on March 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Baxter:
Maybe the Spaniards would like to come get them. But then again, maybe Obama will extradite.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Thank God for Marines, thank you for yours.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM
❤ Hawkdriver
RushBaby on March 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Ummmmmmm…….
……. I’m going to go out on a limb and choose ‘chaotic and fumbling messaging from the teleprompter’.
Hawkdriver, thanks for the link to Pegasus Team…..
……. Good Fortune, and God Bless!!
Seven Percent Solution on March 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM
You all said that everything Obama says has an expiration but this was quick. Sounds a bit like cowboy diplomacy to me.
larvcom on March 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I would love to see that.
Usually though, people that scream the most do the least.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Yea Right!!!
When has a liberal ever backed up their faux morality or ignorant rhetoric.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Hawk,
Godspeed comrade…
Baxter,
Excellent posts here today…
I just got this from newsmax:
Hezbollah Smuggling Across U.S.-Mexican Border
America’s porous southern border is an entry point for more than Mexican cartels and their illegal drugs — the Iranian-backed Lebanese group Hezbollah has been smuggling drugs and people into the U.S. as well.
Hezbollah has long been involved in narcotics and human trafficking in South America, and is now using the same routes into the U.S. that the Mexican cartels use for smuggling, according to an exclusive report in The Washington Times.
The group relies on “the same criminal weapons smugglers, document traffickers, and transportation experts as the drug cartels,” said Michael Braun, who recently retired as assistant administrator and chief of operations at the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.
“They work together. They rely on the same shadow facilitators. One way or another, they are all connected,” he said.
Hezbollah, which fought a 34-day war with Israel in 2006, funds its operations in part from a large Lebanese Muslim diaspora, and some of that funding comes from criminal enterprises.
Salim Boughader Mucharrafille, a Mexican of Lebanese descent, was arrested in 2002 for smuggling 200 people, including Hezbollah supporters, into the U.S. He was sentenced last year to 60 years in a Mexican prison.
But the cross-border flow of drugs and people has intensified since the U.S. reduced access to the country by air and water following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. And the drug wars between the cartels have claimed the lives of more than 8,000 people since January 2008, destabilizing Mexico along the border and prompting President Barack Obama to send additional agents there.
Adm. James Stavridis, commander of U.S. Southern Command, recently told a House committee that the connection between drug traffickers and “Islamic radical terrorism” is a growing threat to the U.S.
Braun said members of the Quds force of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards have been operating in South America and “could be commanding and controlling Hezbollah’s criminal enterprises from there.”
And a senior U.S. defense official said that in addition to Hezbollah,
al-Qaida could also use the Mexican cartels’ trafficking routes to smuggle operatives into the U.S.
“The Mexican cartels have no loyalty to anyone,” another official told the Times. “They will willingly or unknowingly aid other nefarious groups’ [entry] into the U.S. through the routes they control. It has
already happened. That’s why the border is such a serious national security issue.”
Just think, we’ll be paying these terrorists our tax dollars soon enough, while putting their children through school. The Obama legacy!
Keemo on March 29, 2009 at 4:49 PM
And the liberals have fought like he!! to keep the border from being secured.
Just like they created the Gorlic wall,said we would lose in Iraq,and fought against any regulation of Fannie Mae.
This is just scary stupid.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I have come to believe that Liberals want the people in turmoil; as much fear and turmoil as possible.
Keemo on March 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Ummm, is this a real question, or, you know, one of those rhetorical things?
Contrary to the media Spin, the current TOTUS is not all that smart. No Smart equals no “Smart Power”……
Janos Hunyadi on March 29, 2009 at 4:58 PM
getalife also voted for Ohama,who proudly took money from code pink,answer,and hollywood.
All groups of people who have called our Soldiers baby killers,war criminals,murders,child predators,spit on our Soldiers and vandalized recruitment centers all in the name of peace.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Why does he feel the need to pepper every public speech with insults to his predecessor? Why not focus on a positive message without the constant hate?
JohnJ on March 29, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Thank God for people that think for themselves and don’t pull the GOP company line.
True_King on March 29, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Did you support the troops in 2004? Who did you vote for that year?
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I’m tired of hearing this dangerous embarrassment say how smart he is. On policy: Obama is to Bush as Biden is to Einstein.
Basilsbest on March 29, 2009 at 5:16 PM
A proud independent is someone who is now too embarrassed to acknowledge he voted for this moron.
Basilsbest on March 29, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Is it open season on idiot politicians yet?
Mercy4Me on March 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM
LOL…. EPIPHANY TIME!!!
Just hit me…. there are TWO Identical Teleprompters…. one Good, One EVIL!!! One Right, One Left….
Thats why we have these constantly changing positions…
Romeo13 on March 29, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Yeah, but the only reason Getaclue calls himself Independent, is that he is too far LEFT for the Democrats..
Romeo13 on March 29, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Amateur hour. For over two months now.
hepcat on March 29, 2009 at 5:49 PM
It’s important to remember all that is involved in “supporting the troops”.
To do so, one has to support all of the troops, not just certain groups of troops. If getaclue wants to support the troops in Afghanistan looking for al Qaeda that is fine, but getalife then also has to support the troops fighting Bush’s war in Iraq. The same war that O’bama is on record as having opposed from the very beginning.
Likewise, when one says they support the troops, they also have to fully support the troops’ mission, as the two cannot be separated. This is a mistake Leftists frequently make.
Third, one cannot support the troops unless one also supports the officers who command those troops. And it’s common knowledge that in the officer corps, Republican officers outnumber Democrat officers by a 7 to 1 ratio. People like Wesley Clark are the exception, not the rule. To support the troops one has to support all of those evil Republican command people.
And finally, one cannot support the troops without also supporting their Commander in Chief. Another reality that Leftists frequently ignore.
They can be excused, of course-after all, 90% of them have absoluterly no knowledge of the military or how it works.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 5:50 PM
We are and we are not buying your crap.
We served proudly under President Bush and were aware all the while of the Left’s hatred towards us. We saw the anti-military rallies from your side. Now that Obama is President you think patriotism is somehow cool. In a flash you went from having us air raiding villages and killing innocents to professionals you can now suddenly be proud of. I think I can sum it up in just 2 words.
F**K You.
Guardian on March 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM
The more I read it, the more I’m convinced that getalife is an Eliza Doolittle program that gets fed a weekly script by its “progressive” programmers and is programmed to monitory HotAir and post talking points from its canned scripts:
Eliza Doolittle
Given the lack of intelligent debate from getalife, the pretty much 24/7 nature of getalife, and given that its postings are sort of on topic most of the time, one could reasonably conclude that a well-written program could respond in the manner that getalife responds to stimulus.
If this is not the case, then I would contend that getalife is the wetware equivalent to a canned script since it exhibits no originality from James Carville talking points and thus is providing no value-added to the “progressive” movement.
AZfederalist on March 29, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Tim Shipman, a British reporter, is already comparing Barry to Jimmy Carter.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 5:54 PM
That should be ‘monitor’, not ‘monitory’
AZfederalist on March 29, 2009 at 5:54 PM
getalife supporting the troops AND using God’s name.
Next she will curse Barry and say she loves Bush.
Operation DeepCover, sorry Independent.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 6:09 PM
I was a Bush supporter in 2000 and 2004. Why?
True_King on March 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM
He’s a Stalinist?
True_King on March 29, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Uh, because you were defending getalife, who refuses to answer the same question?
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Or…. bleeding heart Anarchist? you know, one of those Oxymoronic “philosophies”? Like Compassionate Conservative?
Romeo13 on March 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM
pinchaloaf has in fact directly responded to questions or comments from individual posters on this forum, which seems to indocate a paid shill.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM
It depends upon the depth of the responses to those posters. For example, if you look at the link to Eliza Doolittle type programs I provided, the program does not just parrot the talking points, but will appear to be answering the responses to the program:
For example, the DOCTOR program can appear to be responding to questions in a context in which the question “Who is your favorite composer?” can be answered acceptably with responses such as “What about your own favorite composer?” or “Does that question interest you?” A reasonably respectable update to that program could produce an intelligent-seeming contextual conversation on things such as, for example, supporting the troops or not supporting the war in Iraq.
I’m not saying that getalife really is a program, just that its responses are pretty much indistinguishable from such a context-driven program. A program would certainly provide a good explanation for how its responses seem to be scattered throughout the day, every day and at all times of the day.
AZfederalist on March 29, 2009 at 6:29 PM
+1000
maineconservative on March 29, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Obama talks out of his poopie hole.
- The Cat
MirCat on March 29, 2009 at 6:38 PM
True_King:
What exactly is the GOP line? I mean to be honest, if I have the choice of a GOPer and Obama…I will take the GOPer anyday. As for their line, I think people would have a hard time agreeing on exactly what that was.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Guardian has a point. I wonder if getalife was with Murtha when he called our Marines cold blooded murderers. Betcha money he/she/it was. I wonder if the claims of wanton torture by our troops of all prisoners seemed plausible to getalife, or if it seemed like an anti war ploy to demonize the troops and undermine support for the war?
I think we all know the answer.
getalife is just partisan. If the president who took out Saddam Hussein had a D behind his name instead of an R, all that flag burning crap would never have happened.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 6:45 PM
AZfederalist:
Good point, in fact I don’t think getalife has ever posted anything that required more than a few words.
Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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