Obama on troops in Pakistan: Never mind
posted at 12:00 pm on March 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Three days after his administration strongly hinted that President Obama would order American troops into Pakistan when targets became open, Obama himself reversed that position. In an interview with the Associated Press, Obama said he respected Pakistani sovereignty and foresaw no reason to violate it — at least not with ground troops:
As he carries out a retooled strategy in Afghanistan, President Barack Obama says he will consult with Pakistan’s leaders before pursuing terrorist hideouts in that country.
Obama said U.S. ally Pakistan needs to be more accountable, but ruled out deploying U.S. troops there. “Our plan does not change the recognition of Pakistan as a sovereign government,” the president told CBS’ “Face the Nation” in an interview broadcast Sunday. …
Without directly referring to the strikes, Obama said: “If we have a high-value target within our sights, after consulting with Pakistan, we’re going after them. But our main thrust has to be to help Pakistan defeat these extremists.”
Asked if he meant he would put U.S. troops on the ground in Pakistan, Obama said: “No.” He noted that Pakistan is a sovereign nation and said: “We need to work with them and through them to deal with al-Qaida. But we have to hold them much more accountable.”
That’s different than what the administration said on Thursday. As Wired reported, it sounded like Obama had decided just the opposite:
President Obama has just laid out his new war strategy. And he’s made it clear that the fight is both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. So I asked Dennis McDonough, with the National Security Council: Does that mean U.S. ground forces in Pakistan? Or more drone attacks? “I’m not going to comment on the notions you laid out there,” he answered, during a White House conference call with bloggers.
But during a separate press conference, Bruce Reidel, who recently completed a strategy review of the region for the White House, offered some hints. “Thus far, our policy sees Afghanistan and Pakistan as two countries, but one theater of operations for our diplomacy, and one challenge for our overall policy,” he said. “We have very concrete proposals for increasing economic assistance to Pakistan, proposals that have already been put forward by the Congress. We’re also looking at what we can do on the military side.”
Michele Flournoy, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, added, “I certainly believe we are going to be increasing our intelligence focus in this [Afghan-Pakistan] theater, and as opportunities arise that may increase the pace of operations, as well.”
“One theater” suggests no boundaries for US troops, a perception that the administration did not reject when explicitly asked on Thursday. Today, Obama has rejected it, although he threatened to invade Pakistan with American ground troops as a candidate. So is this “smart power”, or simply chaotic and fumbling messaging from the White House?
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I don’t think we should question Obama because he is the president and he is a liberal.
tomas on March 29, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Obama did say today that afghanistan is “America’s War’
I guess that comes as a shock to all of our allies in Afghanistan
William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Change we can believe in.
Jay on March 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM
This would be the answer. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to know that you do not telegraph your military strategies and intentions.
WashJeff on March 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM
We hired a nitwit community activist for the most important job in the world.
Better learn some Mandarin…
TexasJew on March 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM
This is yet another example of Ogabe trying to be all things to everyone. If anti-war groups start attacking Ogabe with any of the fervor they leveled against Bush, you can expect Ogabe to immediately change course in an attempt to placate them.
Bishop on March 29, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Better learn some Arabic, too.
Disturb the Universe on March 29, 2009 at 12:08 PM
The adults are in charge now.
Historians have already concluded that O’bama is the greatest President of all time. And the National Park Service is already measuring a spot on Mt. Rushmore for him.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM
He’s so experienced in these things…we must keep our mouths shut and let him govern…/sarc (is there really any need for the sarc button anymore?)
d1carter on March 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Ogabe’s homework while at Camp David this weekend is to write 100 times:
I will remain quiet and let people think I am an idiot rather than speak up and remove all doubt.
WashJeff on March 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Hillary already cornered the market on reset buttons.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM
“after consulting with Pakistan”….
Great. We all know the PAKs will zip their lips.
Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Remember, Barry’s very smart. And Joe is there by his side. I don’t worry. I also don’t own a gun yet. Better look into that.
strosfan on March 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM
It is one theater, at least the north-west areas of Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan. But you can’t chase militant in Pakistan with ground troops from Afghanistan which will only push them deeper into the mountains. The ground troops should be dropped in Pakistan and chasing them from there, in effect let the terrorists get caught in a pincer from both sides. I doubt anybody’d be willing to do that.
On the whole, Obama is hitting Pakistan because it was an ally, however insalubrious, of the US and to keep people from focusing on Iran.
promachus on March 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM
He says one thing, then the next says another. No wonder a lot of World Leaders don’t trust him. He lies to suit the situation. Mean while another worry
sheebe on March 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM
We will have to hire the Taliban after his four years in office to bring the monument down. They are really good at destroying large stone statues.
WashJeff on March 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Pelosi had to remind Barry we attack Paki from Afghani secret bases..
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM
This is why I don’t want Ogabe to send our troops anywhere. He’s unable to take political heat from any side of the aisle. Bush took shit from just about everyone without changing course until it was right for the country and/or the Armed Forces. With Ogabe it’s ALL ABOUT HIM!
I see Blackhawk Down Part 2 in theaters soon….
Caper29 on March 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM
You know what Obama and America needs ? More Muslims in positions of Power
Ugh
William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM
That’s a rhetorical question, right? All evidence so far indicates that “smart power” is chaotic and fumbled messaging from the Obama White House.
ProfessorMiao on March 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM
You don’t have to hire someone if they’re already doing the job.
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Words, just words. Obama is king of fluff.
petefrt on March 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM
If you don’t like what Obama says today, just wait. He’ll CHANGE it tomorrow. Consistency, that’s what we’re looking for.
GarandFan on March 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM
I’m sure he is just tired…He is working really hard, just like Clinton,Geitner and others in the administration.
tomas on March 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM
“One theater of operations for our diplomacy”? I guess diplomacy precludes ground troops?
Hey, where’s the Meet the Press thread? I was looking forward to seeing HAers beat on Geithner.
He would look less weaselly if he’d just pick his chin up when he speaks. But nothing can make him sound less weaselly.
Rosmerta on March 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I think you can safely rule out “smart” in anything done by this administration so far.
Guardian on March 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM
the economy is in recovery, and the mission
is completed. the war is over.
the stock market rally belongs to
Oboma.
the adults are now in charge.
all you cons need to go back
to sleep. we will take care of
things now.
i will now go brush my teeth and
turn my bra around.
(brought to you by GTOIC: getalife’s
teleprompter of inane commentary)
Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Well, cons want him to fail but when it comes to war, they never tell the truth.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Heh. Right on cue Yoop.
Guardian on March 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM
WHOA! Talk about timing.
Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Its called “keeping it REAL”
William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Let’s not forget that O’bama’s the brilliant guy who called the 15,000 to 20,000 foot tall mountains on the Pakistan/Afghan border “hills”.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM
As a lying candidate, saying whatever you think the crowd wants to hear will not work when you are president.
Jimmy Carter still smiling.
jukin on March 29, 2009 at 12:35 PM
the military, even the lowest of enlisted ranks, doesn’t like this flip-flopping. they don’t feel properly “supported” by the top. for bambi’s sake, i hope his total disregard & disrespect of the US military doesn’t come back to bite him in the ass.
kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 12:41 PM
This sarcasm isn’t funny anymore. The question is even way past being rhetorical, a feat made all the more amazing by the swiftness at which Obama has nurtured it’s obsolescence with his constantly idiotic inaptness of tongue.
Obama is completely, totally, onmipotently inept at anything other than saying what he doesn’t mean. His intellectual rigor insults that of sluggards everywhere.
Dusty on March 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM
I’m sure it was the teleprompter’s fault that he makes no sense.
This imbecile could take a vacation in the middle of WW3 and the media would only focus on how mean Republicans are for criticizing him.
gsherin on March 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM
He’s a liar. Plain and simple. He doesn’t need a strategy; he just needs to look busy.
bluelightbrigade on March 29, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Put me in the “another Black Hawk Down!” category. God save them!
On election night as the results were coming in, I was frightened for our nation, but I wept for our military and their families. They begged us not to elect this Marxist as their Commander in Chief. Many bloggers, and more public voices pleaded with Americans to stop and singularly think about our men and women in the military before pulling the lever for this Marxist. Or to stay at home and not vote because you were hacked off at the Republicans!
As everyone is constantly saying these days, “There are consequences to elections.” It is beyond heartbreaking to me that our bravest and brightest are the ones who are going to pay the highest price; along with their families for THIS election. “I am so sorry” just does not seem to adequately describe how bad I personally feel for placing these people in such a horrific situation.
I hope and pray as each one of us gets up each day to hear the new Marxist move of our overlords; I seriously pray that we take the time to be more determined than ever to become extremely active in doing something, ANYTHING to defeat these people on behalf of these men and women in the military, and on behalf of the family members here at home. The economy is impacting their families and they have one serious loon as a Commander in Chief. If you cannot get motivated because you are mad at the RNC, then get over that and think about these people. If you are not for war and are not a big military supporter; you had better come to love them because we are going back to a pre-9/11 mentality, and THEY are the only things between us and another attack. We cannot and must not allow our military to believe we have let them down and will not fight here at home. WE MUST NOT GIVE UP AND WE MUST FIGHT! Go to a tea party, send email to Congress, talk to your family members and neighbors and for the love of these who REALLY VOLUNTEERED to protect and defend YOU; fight like hell during these NY elections and for the 2010 elections. We are Americans by God, and WE THE PEOPLE must fight against tyranny that is now not just foreign, but very, very much domestic.
Now go out there Americans and kick some liberal butt! Fight for your Constitution! Fight for our military! Fight for your children’s futures! Fight for the love of this nation! WE ARE THE LAST MAN STANDING!
freeus on March 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I think we should build a gate that is guarded only by pigs.
tomas on March 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Obama promised to kill OSL within his first 100 days. Obama also told America that Bush could/should kill OBL if he really wanted him, could have done this at any time.
Times running out Mr. President!
Keemo on March 29, 2009 at 1:00 PM
The drones will get them. They look up at the sky and running scared.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Why does Barry say “Pock-EE-stohn” but “Afghan-IH-stan“?
Shouldn’t it be “Afgone-EE-stohn“?
Sure glad his military strategy is clearer than his pronunciation problems.
(And a real question: does Al-Qaeda consider him an apostate?)
profitsbeard on March 29, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Gee, I thought we were killing innocent women and children. Those drones sure got accurate after January 20, 2009. The drones must have new “evil detectors” and “innocent sensors” as part of their on board systems!
mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Obama rightly identified the main threat to us as al Qaeda, which he wants to “disrupt, dismantle and defeat.” Then why are his efforts overwhelmingly directed toward the Taliban?
I don’t like the Talibs, but they didn’t attack us on 9/11. Dirt poor, they just made the mistake of renting some fleabag motel rooms to al Qaeda. And they paid heavily for it.
The Taliban strategy is to make Afghanistan ungovernable for us. What if, instead of trying to claim worthless territory in the name of a corruption-poisoned Afghan government, we flipped the rules and just kept Afghanistan ungovernable for the Taliban?
We’d need far fewer troops. And the investment’s return would be higher.
Or how about Obama’s ringing claim that the Taliban have “nothing to offer the Afghan people but terror and oppression?” Many Afghans — at least among the Pashtun plurality — don’t agree.
The tribals deep in those valleys and the Pashtuns in Pakistan feel a lot closer to the Taliban’s values than to ours. They might not mind a new road, but they’ll skip the bikinis and Budweiser, thanks. The Talibs are home-boys. We’re the foreign element. Why is that so hard to grasp?
All of this circles back to the core of the problem — and it’s not Afghanistan. Afghanistan’s not worth a mullah’s hemorrhoid. Putting the bulk of our effort into Afghanistan amounts to attacking a crisis in California by rescuing Nevada. It’s Pakistan that lies (and lies and lies) at the heart of this problem.
To his credit, Obama noted Pakistan’s importance. Then he got all the solutions wrong.
Start with his inane — but touchingly American — statement that “the people of Pakistan want the same things we want.” Oh, really?
How many readers think Sharia law would be a good idea? How about beating the crap out of women just for yuks? Or stoning them to death because they smiled at the wrong time? And let’s ban alcohol, bare arms, dating and jobs for women. And grow those beards, fellas!
Yeah, we’re tight. We’re such good buds that, while the Pakistanis protect the worst elements within the Taliban, manipulate our key supply line and pander to terrorists, Obama wants to guarantee Pakistan’s stunningly corrupt politicians $1.5 billion in aid every year. Plus military aid.
Why on earth should the Pakistanis help us when we reward them lavishly for screwing us?
And since it’s still our policy to punish those who aid terrorists, we need to punish ourselves. We bear a portion of the responsibility for every Pakistan-backed terror attack on India. Why? Because the Pakistanis know that, no matter how brutal the deeds of their terrorist auxiliaries, we’ll step in to “mediate” and prevent the Indians from retaliating.
Want a truly fresh strategy that would work? End all support of any kind to Pakistan. Close our embassy. Do what makes military sense and reduce our forces in Afghanistan to a level that can be supplied by air. And concentrate on destroying al Qaeda, not on “owning” village X. (Obama’s approach just stinks of Vietnam.)
Imagine how different the situation would be if we weren’t Pakistan’s strategic prisoner and didn’t stand between Islamabad and Delhi. What if the Pakistanis had to behave responsibly and stop sponsoring terror attacks against India — or face India’s wrath? Nuclear war? Pakistan would vanish, India would lick its wounds. And the Pakistanis know it.
And how about asking ourselves the fundamental question: “Why is India a success story and Pakistan a complete failure?” Any chance that backward Islam might have something to do with it? We can’t bribe people to succeed.
Our president identified al Qaeda as Pakistan’s No. 1 enemy. That’s wishful thinking. Pakistan’s leading enemy has always been corruption. No. 2 is its home-grown Islamist insurgency. Al Qaeda’s way down the list.
Our pathetically naive president articulated one sound goal — defeating al Qaeda — then told us how he wasn’t going to do it. Like LBJ, all he can think of is more troops and more aid. Can’t we ask ourselves why the Taliban’s thriving? After the military beatings we’ve given them? How many of our troops must die for an empty policy?
Ho . . . ho . . . BHO. . . Why don’t your supporters go?
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Fixed it!
jerseyman on March 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM
I’m not surprised, Obama wants to have it both ways on every issue.
just ONE example:
“… the deficit will grow even larger, but we need to spend now ….. my agressive economic plan will reduce the deficit.”
fogw on March 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM
The drones can’t operate in many of the narrow, remote high altitude valleys in that part of the world. That’s where the remains of the upper echelon of AQ are hiding, too.
Heck, flying airplanes with human pilots in those valleys is hard enough-witness the numerous crashes of planes carrying Himalayan mountain climbers.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Brought to all by GTOIC.
Be sure to hit the tip jar.
Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Hey, hey, ho, ho, BHO, why don’t your supporters go?!!!
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Rank Amateur.
HondaV65 on March 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Good morning Liar.
Craving another another beat down, I see.
fogw on March 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Depends on what “grow” means – Slick
lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM
“So is this “smart power”, or simply chaotic and fumbling messaging from the White House?”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
notagool on March 29, 2009 at 1:29 PM
(Fist bumping Yoop) Best parody EVAR!
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 1:29 PM
The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia.
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM
It’s impossible to have confidence in the Commander-in-Chief, when he used his power as a U.S. senator to try to turn Iraq into another Vietnam.
Christien on March 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Obama reminds me of a poster that I had a few years ago. It was a rooster with it’s head pointing both ways. Poster said “I’m so confused, I don’t know which way to point my pecker”.
suzyk on March 29, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Paraphrasing Gen Petraeus (see headlines): I wouldn’t necessarily conclude that Obama is in totally over his head, that he’s virtually begging Russia and Iran to push us out of Central Asia, Israel to act on its own, India to seek accomodations elsewhere… I wouldn’t necessarily conclude that it’s getting time for conservatives to re-assess their assumptions about the uses of American power under this new economic and political context.
CK MacLeod on March 29, 2009 at 1:40 PM
He just pronounces things the way he wants to, on the theory that if he says it that way, it must be the right way.
If you look up these words in dictionary.com, the audio pronounces them the way the rest of us do.
Alana on March 29, 2009 at 1:43 PM
The truth is cons want the President to fail.
I don’t.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 1:44 PM
He’s a mack daddy
50sGuy on March 29, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I had a dream last night that Obama got hit by “friendly fire”. Weird.
marklmail on March 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM
His Muslim overlords told him he’d better not.
Disturb the Universe on March 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM
This is a guy who will say anything, at any time, confident that the press will cover it up if it goes bad. It’s completely amazing.
mr.blacksheep on March 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Didn’t we win in Iraq with a “surge”?
RealDemocrat on March 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Wait, he can’t send ground troops into Pakistan. You know, if you’ve never actually been in battle the lefties cry that you’re a chicken hawk and you should send your own kids first. Hell, Barry has never even been in the military. (Well unless you count the Kiss Army.)
Dave_d on March 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM
IOW, you’ve run out of bullsh!t and retreated to an out of context Limbaugh qoute. pwn3d!!!
mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Classic case of “Obama Unplugged” from his prompter.
He needs to plug back into his personal smart grid before he starts a war.
econavenger on March 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM
mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I have not seen one post supporting the troops.
Except for mine.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM
“He just pronounces things the way he wants to, on the theory that if he says it that way, it must be the right way.”
Actually the only thing that Obama has got right about Pakistan is learning how to pronounce them like a Pakistani or an Indian does. As an Indian i can attest that he pronounces it the right way.
He visited Pakistan in the 80’s as a young man – http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2008/08/obamas-1981-visit-to-pakistan.html – most readers of HotAir probably know this by now.
He does not pronounce Pakistan the way a typical Caucasian or a black American would – because..umm.. he is not a typical black or white American. It is this “exotic” quality of Obama that endears/endeared him to the liberal elites. Of course, exotic is a word you use with islands, animals etc but for liberals it is a compliment when you use it to describe a person’s background !
And by the way should’nt this latest joke by Obama be filed under “Obamateurism of the Day” or something? He has been the Obamateur for the longest time – right since he announced his candidacy. His amateur views on Iraq, Afghanistan, economic policy, Social Security was on full
display.
Thank you liberals and “independents” and “moderates” for successfully foobaring America for the next several decades. You should all be mighty pleased with your President.
nagee76 on March 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM
That’s because you want an “inherently flawed” America to fail. We cons don’t.
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM
I thought you were writing about drones doing the job? BTW, we weren’t the ones who claimed the troops were raiding villages, and terrifying the womens and childrens. That was oblameless[nmp], memba? I can link it if you’d like.
mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM
BS.
The President made the decision.
Support the troops.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Our support for the troops goes without saying.
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:02 PM
LOL. When has President “Present” ever made a decision?
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:03 PM
getalife continues to show her ignorance and hypocrisy with every post.
And as is typical with liberals and their selective outrage,they had no problem yelling for Bush to fail while we were at war.
It was speaking truth to power then.
Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/11/carville-wanted-bush-fail/
Democrats Have No Right To Be Snooty About Rush Not Wanting the President to Succeed
Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:37 am
http://patterico.com/2009/03/08/democrats-have-no-right-to-be-snooty-about-rush-not-wanting-the-president-to-succeed/
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 2:03 PM
So, you want be like the liberals.
Geez.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Wit the cooperation of the Iraqi people. A surge strategy is possible in Afghanistan, but a ground force invasion of Pakistan is suicide.
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Not if they look like you! :P
chunderroad on March 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM
The whole point is the hypocrisy. Did you want me to link oblameless’ quote regarding the troops raiding villages?
mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Translation: “I just got bitch-slapped by Baxter Greene.”
Better put some ice on that, kid.
Just curious-when Bush was the President, did you want him to succeed?
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM
If the troops are reading this thread:
Good luck and get obl and his thugs.
You have my support.
God bless.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Which is a continuation of Bush’s policies.
Logan to Obama: Remind me, how does your policy on the Pakistani tribal areas differ from Bush’s?
posted at 4:45 pm on July 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/21/logan-to-obama-remind-me-again-how-does-your-policy-on-the-pakistani-tribal-areas-differ-from-bushs/
Predator Strikes Under Obama Much Like Ones Under Bush
http://environmentalrepublican.blogspot.com/2009/01/predator-strikes-under-obama-much-like.html
And you can always count on a 180′ from liberals when it is a democrat that is doing the same things that they criticized Republicans for doing.
Change! Thousands of Pakistani Islamists Protest Barack Obama
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/01/thousands-of-pakistani-islamists.html
Obama Begins Air-Raiding Villages & Killing Innocent Civilians
Still waiting for all those protest from the super smart liberals like getalife against chickenhawk Obama and the war crimes he is commiting.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Nice to know you support both the troops and their Commander in Chief, no matter who is the president.
NOT.
Or were you talking about your brownie troop?
fogw on March 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Nuff said.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Notice: The GTOIN will be down for a short interval for reprogramming.
It has come to the attention of the owner that “support” does not mean wearing a bra backwards to make the shoulder blades “perky”.
Your patience is appreciated.
Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Can we all say “NEVERMIND!” about the election?
SouthernGent on March 29, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Yup.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Hearing this from a liberal literally makes me clench my fist. You are an abhorrent lot. How in Gods name can you come here after the last eight years of liberal attacks on President Bush and the military and profess your freaking holier than thou attitude.
Damn you! I wish you were banned.
I am honestly starting to feel hate for you all. This is and has always been a game to liberals. A game of words and a game of timing. You hate the military when a Conservative is in power and yet you demand support for the liberals you put in power.
The Soldiers Creed does not apply to you. I do not support you. I do not deploy for you. I will not die for you. As an American who wouldn’t lift a finger to try to get people of your own political persuasion to support George Bush, you come here now and try to act as though the Conservatives here are something less than Patriots? Damn your very soul. I have read during my deployments these people on Hot Air and their comments were always in support of the servicemen and women who were overseas.
While you called the Marines in Haditha murderers, while you donated money to the insurgents in Fallujah, while you said the war couldn’t be won, while you told young people if you didn’t get good grades your only future was the Army and Iraq and when you were protesting the war, these Hot Air people did things like protect the families of our fallen from “Democrat” Pastor Phelps and his vile followers, put together care packages, donated money to military causes and came here and supported us with words and encouragement. I know because I read it.
You should be ashamed. I honestly feel more and more like you must have to be paid for what you do here on Hot Air. Only a paid mercenary could be as cold and as calculating in their words.
The advanced party for my unit is pulling pitch in mere days for OEF for the second time in three years. If God forbid some harm falls on any of us, just understand none of it is for you. A paper cut in the office would be too big of a price to pay for dedicated support the likes of which you liberals have given. Any sacrifice my unit might have to make would be in spite of you.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM
So you voted for Bush in 2004? Thanks for admitting that.
Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Sounds like Barry is trying to have his Cake and eat it when it comes to the war in Afghanistan.
Dreadnought223 on March 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Nice rant but I am a proud Independent that supports the troops.
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM
getalife, your comments of support are really apprenticed.
Now, just call 1-800-USA-ARMY and show that your support is real.
You can do it. We will make you all that you can be.
You will become getagun who will getaterrorist.
MB4 on March 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM
wasteoflife declares debate is ovah!
“I don’t want to talk to you no more”—French Soldier, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM
The troops know all to well how liberals like getalife “support them”.
Here are few examples of “support” coming from getalife and
her liberal friends that never saw a Soldier that they would not exploit and stab in the back:
Patriotism Alert: Airman Shot In Heart By Anti-War Protestor; MSM Covers Up Anti-War Motive
—Ace
Another outbreak of Democrat anti-troop hatred
By Michelle Malkin • November 6, 2006 07:27 PM
Hoosiers react to monument vandalism
Kris Kirschner/Eyewitness News
War is Sh!t
by And Tuesday, Feb. 01, 2005 at 7:43 PM
“This is not an act of free speech. This is a crime.”
By Michelle Malkin • May 29, 2007 12:19 AM
Special report: Tracing the Left’s escalating war on military recruiters
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/07/special-report-tracing-the-lefts-escalating-war-on-military-recruiters/
Don’t worry getalife,our military is very informed on how liberals like yourself “support the troops”.
Baxter Greene on March 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaKziuu1nP4&feature=related
(Short, un PC, yet still safe in mixed company)
Count to 10 on March 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Which part of proud Independent that supports the troops do you not understand?
getalife on March 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Rant huh? I thought you supported us? You would have paid money for some soldier to speak out in opposition to George Bush.
hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I think getalife has identified herself as retired.
Count to 10 on March 29, 2009 at 2:40 PM
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