Just leave it alone

posted at 10:30 am on March 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The New York Post has a story about a certain videotape that they haven’t fully seen, featuring a person whose identity they haven’t confirmed, allegedly using illegal drugs.  The purveyor of this tape wanted $2 million for it because it reportedly involves the daughter of a high-ranking American politician, but has cut the price to $400,000 instead.  The Post says they won’t pay for the tape, but they have run the allegation in its newspaper.

What should be done with this story?  It should be dropped.  I’m not linking it because I find it objectionable on two levels.  First, it shouldn’t have been reported at all until identities were confirmed.  It may be sad to say that a videotape of an ordinary woman snorting cocaine isn’t newsworthy, but it just isn’t, especially when the woman’s identity hasn’t been confirmed anyway.

If the woman’s identity was confirmed and she was a public official, then that would be news.  The person alleged to be in this tape is not a public official, but the adult daughter of a public official.  Does this inform us of public policy, competence or integrity in office, or corruption or abuse of power?  Not at all.  So what’s the point, except to take a cheap shot at a public official we may not like?

The Post should have left this alone, and so should the blogosphere.


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Fine, run with this, make a big deal out of it and if turns out to be not quite true or if it blows up in your face, be happy.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM

My God you are closed minded. You have no idea what I’ve been saying. You have taken an emotional, irrational position and cling to it with all your might. Mindboggling.

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Cool. I’m going to be watching how this plays out the next few days, and especially how the lib msm deals with it, since more will be coming out…right now it’s looking like this:

GOP Presidential nominee’s running mate’s pregnant daughter: HUGE story…

LIBERAL acting VP’s daughter taped using cocaine: NONE story.

They’re treading on dangerous ground here.

RepubChica on March 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM

peacenprosperity:

Getting closer? I am where I always was. I never said that if the woman was arrested for a crime or something the news should not report it.

I said that even if it is true, it might not help the Republicans. I also said that pushing it for political purposes could back fire.

As for who will investigate this…if she committed a crime I am assuming the law will. That is their job.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM

The Post should have left this alone, and so should the blogosphere.

Just the same way it happened with *deep breath now* Sarah Palin’s oldest daughter’s ex boyfriends mother.

DaveC on March 29, 2009 at 1:04 PM

if she committed a crime I am assuming the law will. That is their job.

Like they investigated teddy kennedy? Like they are investigating chris dodd and barney frank? What country do you live in Terrye? Are you in belgium or somewhere similar?

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

The problem is that conservatives are almost ALWAYS on defense. Period. That needs to change in whatever way.

ddrintn on March 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

peacenprosperity:

I could say the same thing to you. You have decided, based partly on a typo, that I am all for letting liberals off the hook or something when I never said anything remotely like that.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

To a certain extent that is true, but back when Kennedy was president you did not see a lot of stories about his womanizing. People did not run a lot of stories about FDR’s mistress. Even when Reagan was in office there was some discretion evident in reporting on his first wife or his children.

I agree (although that has nothing to do with stories like Octomom).

My issue is really with what Hot Air often does. Bloggers here seem to feel that to be honest, they must be the first person to reprimand a Republican politician and elevate the story for recrimination.

At the same time, they seem to think there will be a gold star for leaving some Dem story alone.

It doesn’t work that way, although I certainly don’t have the answer. I just don’t like the lecture “Leave it Alone”.
I’d be satisfied with “I (Ed) am leaving it alone”.

MayBee on March 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Don’t worry, most of us here know exactly what you’re saying are firmly in the No Quarter category. We understand what we’re up against: it’s not just the hard-left wing of the Dem party–it is a sweeping ideological apparatus and propaganda machine…

RepubChica on March 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM

peaceenprosperity:

Like they investigated Ted Kennedy?? What has this got to do with Ted Kennedy?

So you are saying that American law enforcement can not be expected to do its job either?

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Yeah, OK, Ed.

Here is the grave of Michael O’Day
Who died maintaining his right of way
His right was clear, his will was strong
But he’s just as dead as if he was wrong.

drjohn on March 29, 2009 at 1:07 PM

The press was obsessed with Bush and Palin’s children, and at least Biden’s daughter is an adult.

The only way to get the Left to abandon the politics of personal destruction is to turn it right back against them.

18-1 on March 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM

I can’t believe she used a red straw.

Socmodfiscon on March 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM

18-1:

The left does not care about Biden’s daughter. They will go right on doing what they do no matter what you say about this woman.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM

that I am all for letting liberals off the hook

More proof you have not read anything I have posted. I have no idea what typo you are talking about. You inferred that a large part of Palin’s popularity was from people feeling drawn to her because of the medias treatment of her. That cannot be farther from reality. Many people hate her because of how the media portrayed her, because if the media says it’s so then it must be. This is not about letting one person off the hook, it is about the media effecting our political procees through one sided tactics and whether or not we should just lie down and take it.

I’m done, I can’t bang my head against the wall anymore.

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:11 PM

The New York Post has a story about a certain videotape that they haven’t fully seen, featuring a person whose identity they haven’t confirmed, allegedly using illegal drugs.

For those of you just tuning in: It’s Ashley Biden — Joe’s daughter — on tape snorting down some lines of blow.

DaveC on March 29, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Snort! Snort!

In a Lilly Tomlin/Ernestine sorta way.

Shy Guy on March 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM

In fact can we be sure the left did not plant this whole thing? The first paragraph of Ed’s post:

The New York Post has a story about a certain videotape that they haven’t fully seen, featuring a person whose identity they haven’t confirmed, allegedly using illegal drugs. The purveyor of this tape wanted $2 million for it because it reportedly involves the daughter of a high-ranking American politician, but has cut the price to $400,000 instead. The Post says they won’t pay for the tape, but they have run the allegation in its newspaper.

I am saying wait until you really know something and even if it turns out that there is something to it, don’t be surprised if people feel some sympathy for Biden.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Many people hate her because of how the media portrayed her, because if the media says it’s so then it must be. This is not about letting one person off the hook, it is about the media effecting our political procees through one sided tactics and whether or not we should just lie down and take it.

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Might I add AllahPundit to that list of people in the media who hate her too?

DaveC on March 29, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Obama was right about people bringing knives to a gun fight, based on some comments I see here.

you would think people would be more open to focusing on spending, liberty and tyranny, and nat. sec.

blatantblue on March 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I understand your point. I really do.

But as points of view go, there is always another…

The hypocrisy and manipulation by the MSM must be CONTINUOUSLY and TIRELESSLY exposed as a background canvas for the greater political arguments.

One of the main threats to liberty, and acceptance of tyranny, is the overwhelming success that the MSM has in acting as the propaganda arm of the Leftist agenda while appearing to be an objective source of reason to the apolitical.

It is where these people are unsuspectingly programmed to form their opinions of spending, liberty and tyranny, and nat. sec .

Watch, as the new policy agendas will be about the need to legalize drugs while the left hijacks liberatarian principles for some sound bytes, then they’ll clamp down on the second amendment in order to protect the children.

They will not legalize drugs, of course, but the ruse will be in full operation as they feign concern with “liberty and tyranny”, and they will carry that image as they focus their true intentions on the second amendment.

The stories that the MSM “news” wing decides to bury, and run 24/7, is the story within the story. To us, it is obvious and blatant. So, we get complacent into believing that the financial failures of the nations newspapers and the falling ratings of the old broadcast news is indicative that their credibility has been fully exposed, so we can move on now.

Meh. They just operate in different theaters, now. And they need to be exposed 24/7, 365 days a year. Without any let-up on the throttle.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM

She’s had charges against her dropped twice. Face it, folks, she’s better than us nobodies–at least in the eyes of the law.

Nothing will happen to her, legally.

Christien on March 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM

peacenprosperity:

If you have no idea what typo I am talking about then that is proof that you are not reading what I am posting.

I made the mistake of letting my fingers outpace my brain and said something like the press was not condescending with Palin when I meant they were condescending with Palin. Both sides of the aisle in fact were condescending with Palin and it was not fair.

I do think that some people could see that the media was unfair to Palin and because of that they felt like she was being treated badly. I have heard a lot of people say that and not all of them were Republicans.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Like they investigated teddy kennedy? Like they are investigating chris dodd and barney frank? What country do you live in Terrye? Are you in belgium or somewhere similar?

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Don’t forget Gary Studd’s child molestation, the Clinton’s illegal use of the FBI and IRS against their political opponents, or Patches Kennedy’s drunk driving (and hitting a cop!!!).

Actually, it is ironic that you bring up Belgium. Ever hear of Marc Dutroux?

18-1 on March 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM

What? Newspapers and “journalists” aren’t for destroying private individuals anymore?

Hog Wild on March 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Even more mindboggling.

peacenprosperity on March 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Might I add AllahPundit to that list of people in the media who hate her too?

DaveC on March 29, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Hate is a big assumption. He seems more suspicious than hateful.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on March 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM

don’t be surprised if people feel some sympathy for Biden.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Find it hard to feel sympathy for Biden on almost any front except the auto accident. He comes across as so shallow and silly and I, personally, think the obama administration used him as a mild whipping boy or the butt of many sly jokes. If I were Biden, I would have quit long ago and gone back to the Hill. He’s hard to like and even harder to respect. Wonder if that’s why o chose him.

jeanie on March 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM

peacenprosperity:

I thought were done.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM

The stories that the MSM “news” wing decides to bury, and run 24/7, is the story within the story. To us, it is obvious and blatant. So, we get complacent into believing that the financial failures of the nations newspapers and the falling ratings of the old broadcast news is indicative that their credibility has been fully exposed, so we can move on now.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM

I couldn’t agree more. Imagine if the narrative the MSM was pushing in regards to Obama was:

Throwing parties while he can’t find time to staff the Treasury.

Pushing a hard partisan agenda – “I won” instead of trying to pursue a bipartisan agenda

Spending our children’s money to give to his friends and allies.

Angering our allies for no good reason.

All of the above are the facts, but they don’t seem to get mush press time for some reason.

18-1 on March 29, 2009 at 1:22 PM

jeanie:

I think Biden is a doofus. No doubt, but that does not mean that people will not feel some sympathy for the man if he is having problems with his daughter.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Snort! Snort!

In a Lilly Tomlin/Ernestine sorta way.

Shy Guy on March 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Sorry, Lilly’s busy trying to save the circus elephants from becoming depressed.

lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM

She’s had charges against her dropped twice. Face it, folks, she’s better than us nobodies–at least in the eyes of the law.

Nothing will happen to her, legally.

Christien on March 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Twice? That would change the picture, once her identity is confirmed.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on March 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Apparently the media is willing to talk about this or we would not be discussing it. Just like we know about Kennedy and his drinking and the woman he left to drown. All of America knows about that and the man will die a Senator.

It is not just about the media leading the people around, it is about the people telling the media what they want to hear.

Look at Fox News and its ratings.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this is another distraction brought to you by the fella’s in the White House or their buddies in the MSM? The Boy King is going to Europe and will more than likely sell us down the river, TurboTax was on MTP this morning and made an ass out of himself again, Korea put up another missle to launch today, Boy King did a major another major switcheroo on what he said about Pakistan a couple days ago and……

We’re all talking about Biden’s daughter?

Keep your eye on the ball folks.

Knucklehead on March 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Drudge has all the latest info on this “non-story.”

RepubChica on March 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Knucklehead:

No, you are not the only one. I wondered that too. Obama is off doing his global warming world order song and dance and here we are talking about a tape that might or might not exist.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:28 PM

For months the rabid msm press destroyed Sarah Palin and her family.

But Ed, the conscientious conservative who is perfectly willing to lose rather than fight back, cannot bring himself to even link to a report that is 1/1000th as bad and which he has no basis to doubt regarding one of the leaders of the commmiecrat coup of the United States.

notagool on March 29, 2009 at 1:34 PM

So you are saying that American law enforcement can not be expected to do its job either?

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Yep!

BetseyRoss on March 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM

I don’t care if she’s Biden’s wife, daughter, girlfriend or next door neighbor. Ashley has a job with a social service organization where her duties are reportedly helping troubled youth get jobs. Her motto runs somewhere along the lines of, “All these kids need is one person to give them a chance.” Now, if it turns out she’s a coke head, what is that going to do to the trust these troubled kids invested in her or any other adult who claims to be interested in their welfare? Besides, how many Mexican deaths is she responsible for?

jimboster on March 29, 2009 at 1:39 PM

It’s only a story in the MSM if it’s a child of a Republican or a conservative.

The question of whether or not it should be a story is, of course, a completely different discussion.

Don’t confuse the two, but consider both when this sort of thing comes up.

Asher on March 29, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I am saying wait until you really know something and even if it turns out that there is something to it,

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Abso-freakin-lutely!

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 1:53 PM

We’re all talking about Biden’s daughter?

Keep your eye on the ball folks.

Knucklehead on March 29, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Just remember.

This story is not going to go away, and if the right ignores it, the left owns it.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM

It’s interesting how quickly a conservative wants to jump to the moral high ground of “wait for the facts, lets not damage anyones reputation, this is a family matter” Lets take a moment and remember the Bush twins, and Jeb Bush’s daughter with a drug problem, Dick Cheney’s daughter’s getting beat up for “choices”, not to mention all the trash Sarah Palin took! IF this girl is busted doing drugs, Joe Biden needs to endure the same level of scrutiny and hypocrisy- The Libs (with the press’s help) can’t continue to ride this moral highground of “do as we say, not as we do”.

anniekc on March 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM

anniekc on March 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I’m not in for the tear a politician down because the offspring is an idiot routine.

Unfortunately, the main problem is, when the Left gets their talking points together, and the MSM gets their marching orders, they will make her out to be a hero, as well as her dumbass father, our VPOTUS.

What is important with stories like this is to pull the mask of the MSM to expose them for the propagandists that they are, while we simultaneously fight the greater political battles with substance.

This is an absolutely necessary combination of integrated strategy.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Just remember.

This story is not going to go away, and if the right ignores it, the left owns it.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Don’t worry, I’m keeping my eye on this ball too. I’ve learned well from watching TOTUS, thus the reason I’m suffering from a severe case of tennis neck.

Knucklehead on March 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

He seems more suspicious than hateful.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood

No, condescending and superior.

SKYFOX on March 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Does it raise a Constitutional question? No.
Does it discuss a noteworthy feat of a fellow citizen(s)? No.
Does it affect national security or welfare of the country? No.
Does it describe a rare or extreme natural phenomenon? No.
Does it bring corruption of a powerful person or entity to light? No.
Does it raise a public policy question that needs discussing? No.
Then I could not care less.

Send_Me on March 29, 2009 at 10:55 AM

This.

Dark-Star on March 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Well, how much time did Rush Limbaugh do?

The truth is that people with money and connections often do get different treatment, whichever side of politics they be on.

It might not be fair, but there are thousands of people behind bars who will swear it is.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Don’t worry, I’m keeping my eye on this ball too. I’ve learned well from watching TOTUS, thus the reason I’m suffering from a severe case of tennis neck.

Knucklehead on March 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM

I just had this picture of you with a neck brace on, chewing gum, with a fresh black eye, using a cane, but walking with your chin up, yet limping, defiantly illustrating we can walk and chew gum at the same time!

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM

errr….damn!

defiantly “demonstrating” would have been a better word.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM

I was unaware that Rush was video taped breaking the law.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Also unaware that Biden’s daughter would be shortchanged on legal representation.

*rolls eyes*

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Saltysman:

I am not talking about a video. We as of yet do not know if there is a video. For all we know the Democrats planted the story to keep people busy so they would not talk about what was really going on.

I am not saying that Rush was caught on tape doing drugs. I am saying Rush was able to afford a good defense attorney to help him when he was charged with doctor shopping or whatever. Some people might not have been so lucky under the same circumstances.

Rush had a problem and he dealt with it. I respect that.

I also never said that Biden’s daughter would be shortchange on anything. In fact, I am sure she will get the best money can buy.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

I am saying Rush was able to afford a good defense attorney to help him when he was charged with doctor shopping or whatever.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

I was unaware that the DA brought an indictment. Is that true?

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

For all we know the Democrats planted the story to keep people busy so they would not talk about what was really going on.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 2:25 PM

And you know, I hope, from an earlier post from me to you, that I stand firmly with you on this, right?

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Does it raise a Constitutional question? No.
Does it discuss a noteworthy feat of a fellow citizen(s)? No.
Does it affect national security or welfare of the country? No. Yes.
Does it describe a rare or extreme natural phenomenon? No.
Does it bring corruption of a powerful person or entity to light? No.
Does it raise a public policy question that needs discussing? No. Yes.
Then I could not care less.

Send_Me on March 29, 2009 at 10:55 AM
This. I don’t know what I’m talking about.

Dark-Star on March 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I’m not interested in gotcha moments. Nevertheless, if this woman on the tape is definitively identified as Biden’s daughter, I say use it as an object lesson in the war on drugs.

I don’t give a rat’s ass what either of you above thinks: Clinton was correct this week in blaming some portion (though not all) of Mexico’s drug violence on our country. Leaving addicts aside, the amount of recreational use in this country, as illustrated in the tape, must be substantial. And I disagree with any pinhead who argues that the sum total of our country’s recreational use amounts to nothing more than an innocent exercise of free will. Somewhere along the distribution chain, largely in Mexico and to a lesser extent in our country, people are losing their lives–and too many of them are innocents.

Prison reformers have criticized imprisonment for mere use and possession. Fine. I’d like our legislators to consider a criminal scheme of extraordinary prison time for dealing (first offense, five years; second offense, 20 years or higher).

More important, on the use side, for addicts, offer a yearlong amnesty period in which they can turn themselves in for appropriate rehab at government expense. Thereafter, if they re-lapse (to be monitored through periodic drug tests for an appropriate period), treat it as a mental health issue and force them into involuntary commitment until drug rehab professionals determine that they can be released.

For mere casual users, I suggest devising a scheme of severe financial penalties. My idea is not a mere fine, but a significant percentage of net worth (broadly defined) that would be a function of one’s total net wealth (progressive rates) and frequency of offense. Parents would be financially responsible for the use committed by their minor children. All convictions would need to be supported by positive blood test results. Those guilty would be imprisoned until their financial penalty is determined and paid or secured. Include attractive whistleblower awards.

I’m sure that I’ve scratched only the surface. But I think something dramatic is required. If the threat of prison time isn’t enough, consider the prospect of losing, say, 5 to 25% of your net worth on the basis of an accusation coupled with a positive blood test result.

I regard drug use as un-patriotic and un-American. Drug use is an activity that has NO socially redeeming qualities. Short of execution (which is, I believe, the way China remedied it’s opium problem many years ago), the U.S. needs to make the consequences of use so dramatic, that most people won’t dare use.

But to say Biden’s daughter’s drug use doesn’t affect national security (here, border security and drug violence) and doesn’t raise a public policy issue–especially in light of our Secretary of State’s remarks this past week–is silly.

Bring it on.

BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM

So Michelle Obama’s kids are snorting coke. Big deal.

Jarhead68 on March 29, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM

We know you are McShamnety’s daughter. Go away.

csdeven on March 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM

the palin parallel is well taken, but here’s why righties shouldn’t go too far out on this one: there’s good reason to believe that this video is a hoax, and, while the left can pull off “fake-but-accurate/larger truth” shennanigans, because this is actually a doctrine taught in j-school and thus they can rely on the msm for cover, the right cannot. if we get exsersized over what turns out to be an opportunistic fakery, it all splashes back on us.

eh on March 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Actually it sort of does. A few days ago Hillary said that Mexico’s drug-war was America’s fault because we have so many users, so if the person in the vid were a child of the VP it could have the potential of becoming sticky for the Ogabe administration.
Bishop on March 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

That’s quite a reach. Wasn’t this the same logic used by folks to say Palin had no sense of family values if her daughter is sleeping around? Then again, there is one major difference: Palin’s daughter did do the deed, whereas this is only a rumor at this point.
Again though: in either case, unless the parents (the public figures) did something immoral/illegal or failed to act in some way, I really don’t see a role for the press here.

Send_Me on March 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Ed, I totally agree with you and could care less about Biden’s kid.

Now if Biden’s daughter was showing her wares at Cannes, that is a different matter. : ))

When politicians kids enter the public domain is up to them, not up to the media. Leave her alone.

Angry Dumbo on March 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM

My issue is really with what Hot Air often does. Bloggers here seem to feel that to be honest, they must be the first person to reprimand a Republican politician and elevate the story for recrimination.

At the same time, they seem to think there will be a gold star for leaving some Dem story alone.

MayBee on March 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM

I suspect MayBee lives in an alternative universe, but then how did her statement make it to this one? If MayBee is able to read posts in this universe in which I live, I request she provide the name of the three bloggers with the attitudes she desribes. I’ll check if the bloggers with the same name in my universe behave like she says.

thuja on March 29, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Ed, I agree with you.

MedSchoolCatholic on March 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Sorry Ed but the Obama Biden team tore down that private family wall with their attempted Palin massacres and horrific treatment of the family, even attacking their five year old daughter and newborn son. This story may be like the Phelps story, that was greeted with skepticism at first. Why does the story have legs? Because the media, democraps and possibly even Joe Biden spread around the Bush/cocaine story, even though there was no proof thereof, and the alleged use was twenty years old. If they can smear our guys with a false story, we can call their hypocrisy if the daughter of the VP is a recreational user or addict. After all, Hillary just stated that America’s unsatiated use of drugs is causing the Mexican drug wars and leading to deaths of untold thousands there. So if that’s true, the VP’s daughter of the US Administration blaming America, will have to put some of the blame for these killings on the daughter of the VP. You know the democraps would do exactly the same thing with no remorse. If the Repub VP introduced an abstinence bill in the Congress and his daughter was found to be, what was colloquially known as a ‘slut’ (before pc times), the democraps would jump on that, even though it was supposedly a ‘private family’ problem.

eaglewingz08 on March 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Does it raise a Constitutional question? No.
Does it discuss a noteworthy feat of a fellow citizen(s)? No.
Does it affect national security or welfare of the country? No. Yes.
Does it describe a rare or extreme natural phenomenon? No.
Does it bring corruption of a powerful person or entity to light? No.
Does it raise a public policy question that needs discussing? No. Yes.
Then I could not care less.

I second that. This story might bring a public policy question (The War on Drugs) to light, but not in a particularly meaningful way.

Let it go.

Mike Honcho on March 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM

capitulus on March 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Go suck a big one and gag…

RepubChica on March 29, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Talk about being “called out.” And by a female.

Time for the poodle to get back up in his favorite lap.

platypus on March 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I don’t give a rat’s ass what either of you above thinks…

That’s apparent.

But to say Biden’s daughter’s drug use doesn’t affect national security (here, border security and drug violence) and doesn’t raise a public policy issue–especially in light of our Secretary of State’s remarks this past week–is silly.
BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Yep, one of the symptoms of our failing American culture is drug use. Sure, drug policy is a national concern and a national security issue. But, is it an issue now because it was allegedly the V.P.’s daughter involved in drugs? If a Governor’s kid got a speeding ticket, does that mean we should report all public officials’ family members’ traffic violations to underscore the increasing frequency of traffic infringements, which of course would constitute a growing public policy and public safety concern? The V.P.’s daughter’s alleged drug use is irrelevant with regards to the discussion of drug use in America. But who am I kidding? You “don’t give a rat’s ass” what anybody else has to say.

Send_Me on March 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Don’t worry about Biden’s daughter… she has nothing to worry about. Her old man has the best insurances against scandal that money can buy, but it doesn’t cost him a thing… he has a D after his name, and a corrupt media that will become totally incurious because of it. Bet the Delaware cops are pretty busy with other things too.

drunyan8315 on March 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM

She’s had charges against her dropped twice. Face it, folks, she’s better than us nobodies–at least in the eyes of the law.

Nothing will happen to her, legally.

Christien on March 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM

The Sellers DC lawer has already quit. Looks like the fireants were at his kankles.

lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM

If true, is absolutely a newsworthy story.

hawkdriver on March 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Normally I’d agree with not jumping on this. However, if it’s true this young woman has committed a highly antisocial act. No, not just the drug use.

Hillary Clinton has admitted that the US demand for illegal drugs and its consequent supply of weapons is fueling the wave of violent killings in Mexico’s drug wars.

It’s time to name, blame and shame the drug users that are tearing down both Mexico and the United States with this criminal behavior.

Mason on March 29, 2009 at 4:33 PM

I wrote about this, with implications for if the allegations against Ashley Biden were true, especially the double standards: “The Ashley Biden Cocaine Scandal”:

http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/ashley-biden-cocaine-scandal.html

Donald Douglas on March 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Because the media, democraps and possibly even Joe Biden spread around the Bush/cocaine story, even though there was no proof thereof,

It has always amazed me actually – the Left made a big deal about Bush’s claimed cocaine use, and how it meant he should not be president. The Left then went out and selected, and then elected, a former coke-head.

Do these people have no shame?

18-1 on March 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Do these people have no shame?

18-1 on March 29, 2009 at 5:30 PM

No. They really don’t.

myrenovations on March 29, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Even if this were not Biden’s daughter, and if it is true that a social worker is caught on tape using coke, that is news.

States are in the process of opening up (again) the discussion on whether or not to drug test welfare recipients. A social worker caught using recreational drugs should be part of the drug testing story.

myrenovations on March 29, 2009 at 5:34 PM

I just think that until we at least know what is really going on it might be a good idea to leave it alone. And even if it is true, we do not know how people will react. There are all sorts of people from all sorts of families who have relatives struggling with addictions of all kinds.

Terrye on March 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM

The problem is that our so-called “public advocates”, i.e. the Mainstream Media, are not doing their job. They did, in fact, admit to putting it all on the line, their reputations, their news organizations’ financial viability, and more, to prove that they could still influence public opinion by selecting a favorite candidate and utilizing news blackouts to protect him from criticism and project an image of him as an historic figure of immense importance to the growth and evolution of this great country. They were determine to get Obama elected President, facts and truth be damned.

They abrogated their roles and responsibilities as self-appointed public advocates when they began “managing” the news to achieve their ideals of what and how and when news matters. And as such, continuing in that vein to this day, they are useless when it come to investigating the real news that matters; news that would provide us with the facts we need to make informed decisions regarding our political representatives and our local, state and federal governments. They browbeat any issue, however petty, when it involves the GOP and/or Conservatives of any party affiliation, and they will literally have blackouts of news if it proves detrimental to Democrats or Liberals and/or Progressives.

In order to get the MSM to address news of import these days involving Dems/Libs/Progs, it requires massive public pressure, and in light of the fact that the MSM is actively practicing malfeasance in their role as public advocates, an alternative media has sprung up to investigate those pertinent issues and events which are essential for keeping the public informed.

Without talk radio and the blogosphere, we would have no source for information which might give us a clue as to untoward events or issues or, in the case of Biden’s daughter, the actions of people in positions of trust which might be highly detrimental to us, or in Biden’s daughter’s case, to young and very vulnerable children.

If we, thanks to the information being investigated and published via alternative media sources, and in that category I include generally conservative newspapers which tend to be small and have low numbers for circulation…. if we at least have a source for getting the real news, then we, and those sources, can and will apply enormous pressure such that the MSM will often have no choice but to do their “self-appointed” jobs and investigate and report on the matter.

But the more we take the “high road” and not go on the attack because in some respects it might seem unseemly (or unChristian), the more the Left and the MSM, get away with abrogating their responsibilities, and nothing changes.

I say that there is enough evidence, especially with her prior history, to put pressure on big time to investigate this extensively and publicly. At the very least she has displayed, in the past, an incredible arrogance and disrespect for the law, and for the safety of the children whose lives she touches via her job.

Enough is enough.

KendraWilder on March 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM

That’s apparent.

But to say Biden’s daughter’s drug use doesn’t affect national security (here, border security and drug violence) and doesn’t raise a public policy issue–especially in light of our Secretary of State’s remarks this past week–is silly.
BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Yep, one of the symptoms of our failing American culture is drug use. Sure, drug policy is a national concern and a national security issue. But, is it an issue now because it was allegedly the V.P.’s daughter involved in drugs? If a Governor’s kid got a speeding ticket, does that mean we should report all public officials’ family members’ traffic violations to underscore the increasing frequency of traffic infringements, which of course would constitute a growing public policy and public safety concern? The V.P.’s daughter’s alleged drug use is irrelevant with regards to the discussion of drug use in America. But who am I kidding? You “don’t give a rat’s ass” what anybody else has to say.

Send_Me on March 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Cry me a river.

Your analogy doesn’t work on at least two levels. And for that reason, you should join Obama and too many other Statists who repeatedly declare two situations as morally equivalent when, in truth, they are not.

A governor is a state executive, one of 50, with nowhere near the national prominence as a vice president of the United States. Beyond that, comparing (1) drug use and the carnage that too often precedes its end use to (2) a strict-liabilty offense which, at most, affects only the driver and his or passengers and, on occasion, the safety other drivers in the vicinity, sounds superficially appealing, but, again, it’s an analogy that’s not appropriate.

Taking into account the level of the societal costs, Secretary of State Clinton’s very recent remarks, and the prominence of Biden and his immediate family (her social worker background adds a nice twist too), I see this as tremendous springboard into the pool of debating concrete efforts at attacking drug use in this country.

On analogy, I thought what the left did to Palin and her daughter was nothing short of savage. That said, it’s my understanding that Palin is an advocate of abstinence-only sex education instruction. Therefore, without crucifying Palin or her daughter (though an unlikely prospect), I don’t have a problem with sex-education advocates citing their situation as a reason to debate the relative merits of abstinence-only and no-holds-barred sex education education. I admit that I don’t have a firm position one way or the other or a middle ground. But I don’t have a problem with the matter being debated and, more to the point, citing the situation of Palin and her daughter as a reason to have that debate. Likewise, I don’t have a problem with using Biden’s daughter’s casual drug use, if established, as a reason to have a serious debate about concrete alternatives.

BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2009 at 5:47 PM

libs confuse debate with character assassination and which order to use them.

lasertex on March 29, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Nix the legal talk, folks. We can fix this with three letters: R-E-H-A-B!

Laura in Maryland on March 29, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Liberals paraded the Bush daughter’s and Palin’s children with rumors and allegations. We never made Gore’s child an issue, we don’t have to make this an issue.

amazingmets on March 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM

While I agree that there should be a positive identification, the fact that Ed still believes this should not be a story is frankly discouraging. It’s bad enough that Hot Air continues to allow Allah to spew his liberal slant on everything, but now Ed?

Since when do we as conservatives cover up and gloss over illegal activities? First we are supposed to overlook and accept illegal immigrants and now illegal drug use? How pathetic have we become?

I don’t care if the person is a stay at home mom next door. Illegal is illegal and every paper in America used to print criminal activities.

It’s one thing that Ed wants to lead a one man crusade to take the high road in a media that could care less what conservatives think, it’s quite another to start glossing over illegal activities!

jmell7 on March 29, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Cocaine? Should that be a big deal? Isn’t that the same stuff Obama said he used – didn’t he write that in one of his books? If it’s ok for the POTUS, why not the VPs daughter or who ever it might be in the video? (How do you do that sarcasm button?) I know Michael Phelps was drug through the mud for his bong hit. But that’s marijuana. Maybe that’s worse?

jusgottabeme on March 29, 2009 at 6:32 PM

SO, being as this comes from the liberal Post I would guess a democrat’s daughter is about to be named, but even if it were to be the daughter of a republican, … who cares?

For how long is a parent to be held responsible for the acts of their children? Chit, the democrats won’t even allow parents to be informed if their pre-teen daughters work to get an abortion.

IMHO, democrats can only be hypocritical on the issue, and republicans should know better than to drag any child through the mud. Also, the Post would front page the item if the child were from a republican family. I don’t include McCain’s family in the last as everyone knows he isn’t a true republican.

DannoJyd on March 29, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Good, because I’m sick and tired of all of the National Enquirer type stories.

That’s got zip to do with politics.

AnninCA on March 29, 2009 at 6:43 PM

After what was done to the Bush twins (for having margaritas in a Mexican restaurant) and Bristol Palin, and seeing the free pass that Al Gore III got after he was caught driving with all sorts of illegal drugs/meds, I don’t see why we should give them anything.

If they want to attack our young adults, we should go after theirs. Unilateral disarmament has not been working. We need to hit them the same ways they’ve been hitting us. Obama’s a fascist. His actions are worthy of contempt and ridicule. He’s an incompetent bumbler who can’t go 24 hours without screwing something up. And Biden’s kid is a cokehead–just like Young Barack. Obama’s an addict, too. He can’t quit the cigarettes.

Didn’t Joe Biden teach his daughter not to do cocaine?

What a trashy family. Just pure trash. And they want to boss us around. They want to take away our health care and retirement savings. The trash in the White House thinks it knows better than us how to run our lives, but Joe can’t even keep his daughter away from blow.

If Barack Obama had not used campaign assets to push the Bristol Palin story, I would not be saying these things. This is how Obama wants family members of politicians to be treated. His choice, not mine. I’m just going with the flow.

daryl_herbert on March 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Yeah, Ashley Biden’s job is to take children away from parents that abuse drugs. So no, reporting or talking about this has no validity.

Does being a child of a Democrat Veep make you want to abuse drugs? Ask Al Gore 3rd how his latest pot crop is growing.

BelchSpeak on March 29, 2009 at 6:57 PM

I think we should hammer this if it turns out to be true. Liberals have been piling on Sarah Palin’s family even though she’s not even in the national spotlight anymore. These liberals could use a taste of their own medicine.

Vegi on March 29, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Vegi on March 29, 2009 at 6:58 PM

I’ve got an idea! Let’s stop acting like the looney liberals, and instead offer our heart felt sympathies, prayers, and consolences … often!

DannoJyd on March 29, 2009 at 7:03 PM

While I agree that there should be a positive identification, the fact that Ed still believes this should not be a story is frankly discouraging. It’s bad enough that Hot Air continues to allow Allah to spew his liberal slant on everything, but now Ed?…..

jmell7 on March 29, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Say what? Allah, liberal?

Pragmatic, yes. Cynical, perhaps. Not tending to motate blindly over the cliff with sheeples, most definitely. But liberal?

I read his stuff every day, and sorry, I just don’t see it. There are extremes in both directions, and he’s one of the rare few who applies the brakes first and asks “What’s going on?” before any crowd/mob mentality can taint his powers of reasoning. And largely the same is true for Ed, although Ed still believes, for some reason, that it might be possible for Libs and Conservatives and Moderates to ‘just get along’ on some level.

But Allah a Lib? Nah. I really think you might want to visit the archives here for a bit before you post something like that again. Even though I don’t always agree with him, Allah’s articles are rife with independent thinking.

KendraWilder on March 29, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Well. According to Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden’s daughter is the cause of Mexican violence down on the border. At the very least, she should go through the legal process, be charged with a crime of doing cocaine, be fired from her goverment job, give back her last year’s salary of tax payers money, and never be allowed to work for the goverment again. Ever! Thank YOU Hillary!!

apco on March 29, 2009 at 7:38 PM

But Allah a Lib? Nah. I really think you might want to visit the archives here for a bit before you post something like that again. Even though I don’t always agree with him, Allah’s articles are rife with independent thinking.

Wow, it is amazing how far some will go to justify spewing liberal talking points of ignorance. I see it is now called “independent thinking”. One with little awareness may need to go through the archives to see Alluh’s liberal slant, but most will not need to go through more than the first page of his postings to see it is obvious. But I am quite confident that you must also be a big fan of Kathleen Parker, David Frum, David Brooks, and the like! You know…”independent thinkers”!

jmell7 on March 29, 2009 at 7:48 PM

But even if it isn’t Biden’s daughter, but still a social worker allowed herself to be videotaped getting coked up in public, that is a story isn’t it?

My mother’s a NY social worker and they are, according to her, less then the cream of the crop and they’re responsible for dozens of deaths every year as high profile cases like Nixmary Brown proves. A social worker using hard drugs and showing such irresponsible judgment as to be filmed doing it yet who is (no doubt) going to be protected by the Union seems like big news to me.

They should have confirmed it first, but even sans Biden angle this is important if true.

Rob Taylor on March 29, 2009 at 7:55 PM

But Allah a Lib? Nah. I really think you might want to visit the archives here for a bit before you post something like that again. Even though I don’t always agree with him, Allah’s articles are rife with independent thinking.

Wow, it is amazing how far some will go to justify spewing liberal talking points of ignorance. I see it is now called “independent thinking”. One with little awareness may need to go through the archives to see Alluh’s liberal slant, but most will not need to go through more than the first page of his postings to see it is obvious. But I am quite confident that you must also be a big fan of Kathleen Parker, David Frum, David Brooks, and the like! You know…”independent thinkers”!

jmell7 on March 29, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Sorry, sugar, I don’t play in sandboxes any longer. And flame wars went out with News Groups.

Frankly, unless you can justify your charge against AP with specific linked references, I’d venture that your opinion, right now, has just about as much value to me as a 10K gold-plated tie tack with a Herkimer diamond set in it.

KendraWilder on March 29, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Maybe we shouldn’t mess with the guy since he has some family issues that he will be having to deal with. We would expect the same thing when Bush and Cheney were in the White House. After all, the families aren’t elected officials. They just stand on the stage with their families to appear like all is well. No special treatment at all. Give them a break, and give the parents time and privacy to work out their issues. Just like they did to Sarah Palin.
The funniest part about Ed’s comments is that it sounds like he believes that these families get no benefits, special treatment or anything else, and actually resist the public attention. They don’t even mind the public attention when they are snorting coke! Which last time I checked was illegal. Should we not keep watch on whether she is prosecuted? Or is that invading her privacy?
What a load of crap.

JeffinOrlando on March 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM

If you go after the daughter, remember that Biden’s son Beau went to Iraq and his first wife and their daughter were killed in a car wreck back in 1972. They had gone out to get a Christmas tree or something and were broadsided by a truck.

Oh, give us a break! As tragic as it was, Mrs. Biden caused the collision that killer her, he baby, and severely injured the boys. Old Joe, blamed the truck driver involved for the accident and accused him of drinking. Neither was true. In fact, both were a blatant lie. And he did this for years and it devastated this man and his family.

Blake on March 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM

A governor is a state executive, one of 50, with nowhere near the national prominence as a vice president of the United States.

Wow, did you learn that in government class? On a more serious note, both serve in an executive status of government.

Beyond that, comparing (1) drug use and the carnage that too often precedes its end use to (2) a strict-liabilty offense which, at most, affects only the driver and his or passengers and, on occasion, the safety other drivers in the vicinity, sounds superficially appealing, but, again, it’s an analogy that’s not appropriate.

So, is the analogy not valid or is it “not appropriate”? Both involve crime. Both involve “carnage”. I’ve lost more friends to traffic issues than to drugs. Here’s something for you: “There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005. The financial cost of these crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States — one death every 13 minutes.

I see this as tremendous springboard into the pool of debating concrete efforts at attacking drug use in this country.

Allegations of drug-use against the V.P.’s daughter does this? So, by this standard of logic, you won’t mind if folks use Palin’s daughter’s situation as a “tremendous springboard into the pool of debating concrete efforts at” rediscovering the Christian model for families “in this country”? What if Palin’s daughter was alleged to have used crack, whereas Biden’s daughter was set to deliver a baby in a couple of months out of wedlock?
Oh, and just for background, I’m neither a Democrat or Republican. As Adams said, “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties… This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”

Send_Me on March 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM

If this story was about Sarah Palin’s daughter it would be front page in the New York Times! If it were a Bush twin…HELLO, everywhere. The potential hypocrisy of the american media is stunning.

mathscience41 on March 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

So what’s the point, except to take a cheap shot at a public official we may not like?

When the news comes out — and it will, I will sorrow with the parents.

Nobody should wish this kind of stuff on someone else. I did once in a hot comment on this very board, and have regretted it ever since.

My son did this kind of stuff to us (maybe that’s not the right way to say it, but it’s how it feels).

And, interestingly, it wasn’t difficult to figure out what was happening once we were warned — the kids put everything up on facebook, and didn’t protect access at all.

We were not bad parents. But the drugs made him a bad son. And that’s how I’ll feel, no matterwho the daughter is related to.

unclesmrgol on March 29, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I actually saw people on DU bring up Bush in terms of cocaine use today, in relationship to this story – and not a WORD about Obama. Not ONE.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

This young woman is in her late twenties – not a child. If one of GWB’s daughters were videotaped doing lines of cocaine, does anyone here doubt that we would hear about it? Over and over??

I’m sorry. I’ve been punched in the gut too much to care whether the Bidens suffer over this. I’m just sick of being on the losing side of this war all the time. Screw it. Report it or don’t, but if they don’t, I don’t want to EVER see another negative word written about a Republican’s kid. I will come unglued.

capitalist piglet on March 29, 2009 at 9:38 PM

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