Biden to Zapatero: Hey, thanks for all that help in Iraq

posted at 9:48 am on March 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Barcepundit catches Joe Biden in Spain doing … well, what Joe Biden does best.  Joe Biden remembered to thank Spanish Prime Minister Jose Zapatero for all the help he gave us in Iraq, except that the only thing Zapatero gave us in Iraq was the finger:

MAN, BIDEN IS A GAFFE WITH LEGS: during his meeting with Spain’s primer minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero in Chile yesterday, Biden thanked Zapatero for his effort… in Iraq (link in Spanish, haven’t found this detail in any English-language media).

As everybody knows, the first decision Zapatero made after his unexpected win in 2004, right after the Madrid train terrorist attacks, was to abruptly and unilaterally pull out from Iraq. So either Biden made a gaffe, or he was thanking Zapatero for angering Bush…

No, I think Biden would have been blunt enough to just say, “Thanks for ticking off George Bush.”  It should be noted that the Spanish Finger to the US didn’t just include pulling out of Iraq, but also refusing to train Iraqi security forces.

Originally, Zapatero explained his abrupt retreat by objecting to a lack of UN mandate for the mission.  When the UN finally did give the US a mandate for rebuilding Iraq, Zapatero refused to return to the coalition.  In doing so, he earned the (unfortunately) undying gratitude of … Moqtada al-Sadr.  So I guess Biden and Sadr share that feeling of gratitide.  In the end, of course, the fast retreat Zapatero conducted did nothing to remove the former al-Andalusia from al-Qaeda’s sights.  Just six months after announcing their withdrawal, AQ tried bombing their High Court.

Regarding Iraq, Biden should have said, “Thanks for nothing.”  But then again, no one but Barack Obama really thought Biden was a foreign-policy expert, anyway.


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From Joe Biden today

“The very good news is that we are willing to and want to collaborate. The bad news is that you don’t have the last (US) administration to use as an excuse … for non-action,” he said referring to former US president George W Bush.

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Well, that much is true.

Ed Morrissey on March 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Well, that much is true.

Ed Morrissey on March 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM

He should say it to the democrats as well Ed

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Biden really is a bionic moron.

Amadeus on March 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM

What a tool

50sGuy on March 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM

a moron & a tool, yes. but unwittingly humorous nonetheless. an absolute joy to watch.

kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Every time I think, “he can’t possibly be that stupid,” I remember:

Yes he can!

trubble on March 29, 2009 at 9:57 AM

so what about the cocaine–bambi admitted to using.

kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Biden is an Idiot’s idiot.

rplat on March 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Biden thanked Zapatero for his effort… in Iraq

, Biden then went on to thank the spanish for that inquisition thingy.

conservnut on March 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM

why can’t this administration get the heads of state & the recent history/culture researched? any of us could do it in 15 minutes.

kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 10:01 AM

maybe the Earth Day people forgot to cut Biden’s brain back on.

kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 10:01 AM

But, you see, Obama’s complete lack of experience with foreign affairs is made up for by the presense of Biden.

That’s like saying it’s OK to let Stevie Wonder drive because he’s got Ray Charles riding shotgun.

Crusty on March 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Since when have they been interested in facts?

conservnut on March 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Get that man a teleprompter or a gag…. stat!

Hog Wild on March 29, 2009 at 10:03 AM

But then again, no one but Barack Obama really thought Biden was a foreign-policy expert, anyway.

As a matter of fact Ed, there was someone else. According to the galactic netmind known as Wikipedia, Biden styled himself as a foreign affairs pro. He also suggested that all the other Democrats in the primary thought so too:

At a 2007 campaign event, Biden said, “I know a lot of my opponents out there say I’d be a great Secretary of State. Seriously, every one of them. Do you watch any of the debates? ‘Joe’s right, Joe’s right, Joe’s right.’”

A must-have individual for the very modern US government…

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Joe is a geek but man, I love watching the guy.

What I don’t love so much is the almost total media-whore dismissal of the stupid and contradictory things he says.

Bishop on March 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Get that man a teleprompter or a gag…. stat!

Hog Wild on March 29, 2009 at 10:03 AM

NO! I say turn him loose and let him run with it!

Oldnuke on March 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM

What do you expect from Biden? A zebra cannot change his stripes.
What do you expect from Spain? The Reconquista of Andalusia is inevitable.

tommylotto on March 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Joe Biden makes me pray for Obama’s health.

Uniblogger on March 29, 2009 at 10:05 AM

So either Biden made a gaffe, or he was thanking Zapatero for angering Bush

More likely thanking him for breaking up the Alliance.

Tony737 on March 29, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Obama travels with a teleprompter and Biden travels with a laugh track.

suzyk on March 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM

look, i would much rather have biden than bambi. he would make all the same horrible policy, but he would be more fun.

kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Joe Biden makes me pray for Obama’s health.

Uniblogger on March 29, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Then comes Pelosi, Byrd, Clinton and Geithner. If that lineup doesn’t scare the hell out of you….

Oldnuke on March 29, 2009 at 10:09 AM

That’s like saying it’s OK to let Stevie Wonder drive because he’s got Ray Charles riding shotgun.

Crusty on March 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM

That is funny and at the same time it is a tragically true analogy of the administration.

thomasaur on March 29, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Fox News should hire Dan Quayle to come in and comment on the gaffes made by that blithering idiot, VP Joe Biden.

Zorro on March 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Instead of The Gang Who couldn’t Shoot Straight, we have The Administration Who Couldn’t Speak Straight.

kingsjester on March 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM

When does the campaign promise bit about “repairing America’s image abroad” kick in? I kinda had my ‘hopes’ up, at least for getalife’s sake.

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Biden won. Get over it.

The adults are in charge now. Historians will rate Biden the best Vice-President ever.

Nyah nyah.

getalife

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Biden couldn’t be worse than Gore. or Agnew

kelley in virginia on March 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM

As everybody knows, the first decision Zapatero made after his unexpected win in 2004, right after the Madrid train terrorist attacks, was to abruptly and unilaterally pull out from Iraq.

But that is the help Biden was talking about.

promachus on March 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM

No signs of higher brain activity. No hope for a meaningful recovery or quality of life.

When are they going to pull Joe’s feeding tube?

Mr Snuggle Bunny on March 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM

He can’t be this stupid! He simply can’t be this stupid!
How could he NOT know this?

HOW!!!!

I REPEAT…HE CAN’T BE THIS STUPID!

katy on March 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM

The bad news is that you don’t have the last (US) administration to use as an excuse … for non-action,” he said referring to former US president George W Bush.

No because the Obama administration already has this use copyrighted.

Caper29 on March 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM

In a possible defense of Biden, perhaps he was thanking the PM in that official’s representative capacity. That is, he was thanking Spain the country for its early help in Iraq, not meaning to thank Zapatero personally. Or perhaps Biden was being cleverly sarcastic, as in “yeah thanks a lot Zapatero, you craven weasel, for pulling out of Iraq.” Biden was an Iraq war supporter and for quite awhile as I remember it.

Bennett on March 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

“Biden quickly recovered from his faux pas by profusely thanking Prime Minister Zapatero for that terrific film ‘The Spanish Prisoner’. “I was swept away from the opening credits,” quipped Biden.”

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

He graduated at the top of his law school class, you know.

Or, maybe not.

Cicero43 on March 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM

How in this world can Biden NOT know about Zapatero pulling out of Iraq after the train bombing? It’s not like Biden is a first term Senator or something even though that would not really be an acceptable excuse for this either. This leaves me in total disbelief.

Dollayo on March 29, 2009 at 10:29 AM

President Obama and his new foreign policy team, led by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, have hit the ground running and are showing the world that the real America – the best America– is back……(Dem Fund Raising Letter)–Signed, Nancy Pelosi and Madelaine Allbright

And the best and brightest are out there serving us well!

Herb on March 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM

He’s not that stupid, he’s that wrong.

This the guy Obama chose to be just one heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Speakup on March 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Biden is the Ignoramus in Waiting at King B. Hussein’s court.

Mojave Mark on March 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Biden then asked if he could meet El Cid.

Bishop on March 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Biden won. Get over it.

The adults are in charge now. Historians will rate Biden the best Vice-President ever.

Nyah nyah.

getalife

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM

And to think, choosing Biden was Obama’s assurance to the country that since the streets of international affairs were to dangerous for a schoolboy in his knickers, that uncle Joe would be there to hold his hand to walk him across.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Bennett on March 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

That kind of logic… gave us Obama dude.

katy on March 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Maybe he was thanking him for this:

Spanish court considers trying former US officials

and it is interesting nothing was mentioned about it in those articles.

JeffinSac on March 29, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Joe is a stand up guy.

Wade on March 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Right after the invasion my son worked with a group of Spanish troops for a short time. Knock their government all you want but their boys went when sent.

Oh, and yesterday Joe Bib-on told the G20 protestors to “give us a chance” yesterday. I’m sure all those yooths just hung their head in shame and went home. The man is Joe Plumber without the brains.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Maybe the Administration should put together their own Special Olympics softball team or something…at least they’d have a good excuse.

Wyznowski on March 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Joe is a stand up guy.

Wade on March 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Even for those in Wheelchairs

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Biden won. Get over it.

The adults are in charge now. Historians will rate Biden the best Vice-President ever.

Nyah nyah.

getalife

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Funny thing is, for a second there I thought that WAS getalife.

Anyway, didn’t we avert disaster by not having that know-nothing Palin in there? LOL

ddrintn on March 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

They arrested the Sunni leader and trying to disarm the Sunnis.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Hey, cut Joe a break. He’s model his life after a famous fictional character. Unfortunately it’s this guy

Dave_d on March 29, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Let me try that again,

Here’s the link to the famous character

Dave_d on March 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Biden, the gift that keeps on giving each time he opens his mouth.

GarandFan on March 29, 2009 at 10:47 AM

…and the hits just keeping on coming!

TampaBayBull on March 29, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Hey here’s Joe talking about
cleaning up Chicago

Dave_d on March 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Just like the French helping the US kick hezbollah out of southern Lebanon in 2006.

mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 10:50 AM

We really dodged a bullet not having that hick from Alaska as VP.

aikidoka on March 29, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Perhaps Joe was thanking him for this:

A high-level Spanish court has taken the first steps toward opening a criminal investigation against six former Bush administration officials.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Our enemies are rubbing their hands together mightily, the way you would on the rare occasion of accomplishing more in a day than expected.

Having softened us up, they are now drooling in anticipation of finishing us off.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Inquiring minds want to know: “Does Joe gird his loins before these trips?”

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Joe Biden makes me pray for Obama’s health.

Uniblogger on March 29, 2009 at 10:05 AM

..and Obama makes me pray for the nations..

OneConservative on March 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Jesus-Mary-Joseph.

Taking glee from a foreign court prosecuting an American citizen for political reasons?

Getlost.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Funny thing is, for a second there I thought that WAS getalife.

ddrintn on March 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM

LOL, I’m not sure whether to take that as a compliment or an insult.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Man, is this guy fn retarded, or what?

Is he like the president of the U.S. special Olympic debate team?

He make Boooosh look like John Bolton.

TheSitRep on March 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

LOL, I’m not sure whether to take that as a compliment or an insult.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

It’s a compliment, of course.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM

I seem to remember Joe Biden and Hitlery Clinton voting for the war. Sorta kinda selective in their war crime prosecution.

mossberg500 on March 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

He can’t be this stupid! He simply can’t be this stupid!
How could he NOT know this?

HOW!!!!

I REPEAT…HE CAN’T BE THIS STUPID!

katy on March 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Ah, Katy: yes, he can be this stupid.

Obama chose him because he knew Joe would do what Joe does best, thereby making Obama look less stupid.

The bar was set very low by this administartion on purpose.

Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Jesus-Mary-Joseph.

Taking glee from a foreign court prosecuting an American citizen for political reasons?

Getlost.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

From wizbang:

This particular Spanish inquisition will be a litmus test for the Obama administration as it will tell the public whether real adults are in charge of US foreign policy and the War on Terror or if the radicals bent on revenge at all costs have assumed control.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Yoop on March 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

LOL…the Abbot and Costello of the Beltway.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM

LOL…the Abbot and Costello of the Beltway.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM

More like dumb and dumber

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

When will normal Americans stop underestimating the “base” of the Democrat Party and its mission to destroy its enemy…America?

The GOP, meanwhile, believes that domestic politics is simply a game of friendly croquet, and the loser makes brunch.

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Saltysam on March 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Yep. The boxing gloves are holding us back.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

LOL…the Abbot and Costello of the Beltway.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM

More like the ‘Lloyd Christmas & Harry Dunne’ of the Beltway.

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

BO’s best choice was Biden, he is a distraction you can count on.

Wade on March 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

More like dumb and dumber

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Sorry William, I didn’t mean to step on your line. I’m on dial-up and I don’t refresh ‘all that good’.

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Yep. The boxing gloves are holding us back.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

BOXING GLOVES?? Are you suggesting that we are contemplating hitting someone?? That doesn’t sound like smart power to me.

No, I think the world community is going to get talked at, and they better learn to like it. /sarc

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 11:16 AM

LOL, I’m not sure whether to take that as a compliment or an insult.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM

It’s a compliment, of course.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Complement INDEED! Del captured your complete ignorance, pointlessness, and absolute inanity to perfection.

Well done.

BigWyo on March 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Nah..I was commenting back to Saltysam about the panty-waist my GOP has become.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Nah..I was commenting back to Saltysam about the panty-waist my GOP has become.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM

+uno (trying to stay on topic)

Peri Winkle on March 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM

an absolute joy to watch

Yep. Biden is Pat Buttram to Obama’s Gene Autry.

uncivilized on March 29, 2009 at 11:23 AM

The whole administration is “stuck on stupid.”

Disturb the Universe on March 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM

As FDR said on TV in 1929:

Aquellos polvos traen estos lodos.”

[The chickens have come home to roost.]

profitsbeard on March 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

It will be okay as long as they never leave our country:

From the Washington Post:

“When CIA officials subjected their first high-value captive, Abu Zubaida, to waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods, they were convinced that they had in their custody an al-Qaeda leader who knew details of operations yet to be unleashed, and they were facing increasing pressure from the White House to get those secrets out of him.

The methods succeeded in breaking him, and the stories he told of al-Qaeda terrorism plots sent CIA officers around the globe chasing leads.

In the end, though, not a single significant plot was foiled as a result of Abu Zubaida’s tortured confessions, according to former senior government officials who closely followed the interrogations. Nearly all of the leads attained through the harsh measures quickly evaporated, while most of the useful information from Abu Zubaida — chiefly names of al-Qaeda members and associates — was obtained before waterboarding was introduced, they said.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

How long before this incompetence on members of the Obama administration gets somebody killed? it will cease to be funny then.

Just A Grunt on March 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Sorry I dont believe any terrorist who says they were tortured. Have an unbaised account ?

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

There’s little hope that Biden will ever change his gaffe-prone pronouncements. Hopefully, America will fire him in 4 years and send him back home to another less prominent goverment job. Where’s the piano wire? What’s the frequency Kenneth?

apco on March 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Mr. Bean goes to Washington.

SKYFOX on March 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Right, because high level top secret information on what really happened is going to be released to the NYT and the Boston Herald.

Smart anti-terrorism tactics don’t include advertising how much you know on the front page of every rag in the nation.

Bishop on March 29, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Sorry I dont believe any terrorist who says they were tortured. Have an unbaised account ?

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I know cons have a problem with reality but the story is from CIA officers and State Dept.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM

getalife at 11:26 AM-

…Neary all of [Zubaida's]… leads… evaporated

They should have then executed Abu Zubaida for lying to them.

profitsbeard on March 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM

profitsbeard on March 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM

They learned it does not work.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Oh, and yesterday Joe Bib-on told the G20 protestors to “give us a chance” yesterday. I’m sure all those yooths just hung their head in shame and went home. The man is Joe Plumber without the brains.

Limerick on March 29, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Joe Biden is like Joe the Plumber on brain-Drano®.

onlineanalyst on March 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM

getalife at 11:39 AM

Executing terrorists does not work?

Since when?

profitsbeard on March 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM

I know cons have a problem with reality but the story is from CIA officers and State Dept.

getalife on March 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Un named officals. Conveinent dont ya think ?

William Amos on March 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM

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