CNN falls to third place
posted at 1:45 pm on March 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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CNN lost its cable-news-network lead to Fox years ago, but had a firm grip on second place … until now. CNN’s viewership has remained steady, but MS-NBC has grown its audience considerably, thanks to its partisan direction over the last year. Neither comes close to knocking off the champ, though:
CNN is poised to finish March third in the prime-time weeknight ratings behind Fox News Channel and MSNBC, the first time this has ever happened for the channel that pioneered the cable news genre nearly three decades ago.
CNN says its overall business is healthy and it is not straying from its straight news path. But it is suffering more audience erosion than its rivals since the peak days of the presidential election, further proof that the opinionated prime-time shows on Fox and MSNBC have greater audience loyalty.
CNN’s weekday prime-time ratings are relatively flat compared to last year during the primary campaign, up 1 percent from March 2008, according to Nielsen Media Research. Fox’s ratings have jumped 30 percent and MSNBC, the new No. 2, is up 24 percent. The biggest growth in cable news is for CNN’s partner, HLN, formerly Headline News, which is up 62 percent.
Fox remains on a mountain above its two closest competitors, with its prime-time audience in March more than that of MSNBC and CNN combined. “The O’Reilly Factor” has done particularly well, keeping more of its postelection audience than anything else on CNN and MSNBC.
CNN says they will continue to focus on straight news reporting rather than try to compete on the ideological bases of their competitors, but some conservatives will scoff at that notion. While CNN sets up their shows as straight-arrow reporting and analysis, many have detected subtle and not-so-subtle biases from hosts Anderson Cooper, Larry King, Campbell Brown, and others. They may not be as explicitly directional as either Fox or MS-NBC, but they have not plowed a down-the-middle approach.
Brown appears most in danger of losing her slot, falling far behind Keith Olbermann, who himself remains far behind Bill O’Reilly. CNN says they’ll stick with Brown in order to build her audience, but the populist schtick doesn’t seem to be competing with the more well-established populist schtick of her competitors. Brown will go on maternity leave, which might portend a change, but CNN will replace her with Roland Martin in the interim, who doesn’t have Brown’s charisma.
CNN might consider sticking closer to a straight news approach, and perhaps finally pushing Larry King into retirement. He’s barely beating Rachel Maddow now as it is, and both are getting clobbered by Sean Hannity’s solo effort. They’re not going to find ideological space any longer, not with MS-NBC going explicitly liberal. If they really want to provide an alternative, that’s the opening.
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I blame Glenn Beck.
lorien1973 on March 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Don’t forget that loathsome Jack Cafferty, who should also be pushed into retirement.
Richard Romano on March 28, 2009 at 1:48 PM
I am sure they want to make changes.
seven on March 28, 2009 at 1:49 PM
More Wolf Blitzer!
Firebird on March 28, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Nothing with Larry King on it could possibly be considered “down the middle.”
12thMonkey on March 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM
The only solution I can see for CNN is to go to the left…whooops sorry about that. Maybe they should go further to the left, hard to do but I am sure with a addition of one more hollowing moonbat they can do it.
Engrpat on March 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM
CNN has been and remains a pure “Obamafied” left wing propaganda machine. Their commentary is so slanted that no one other than a true believer would bother to watch or listen . . . MSNBC ranks a close second in this category.
rplat on March 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Conservative bias kicks liberal bias ass!
YYZ on March 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM
That’s MY
storybusiness model, and I’m sticking with it.Yoop on March 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Hoisted on their own petards. Serves them right.
Terrye on March 28, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Wolf Blitzer, I’m looking at you.
jix on March 28, 2009 at 1:55 PM
That the CNN boss kept repeating the “we’re doing straight news” line is laughable. They have as much editorializing as the other channels, they just don’t put it into one hour block programming.
If they did straight up news, they would end up just repeating everything each hour, much like Headline News and there is only so much of that an audience can watch.
The No Bias, No Bull program is laughable from the intro straight on to the close. Like the “no spin zone” if you have to announce it, it probably isn’t true.
I find myself embarassed on behalf of Larry King that they let him keep that kind of show going. I do not care for the Greta “white girls in distress” program, but King is so much worse.
myrenovations on March 28, 2009 at 1:55 PM
MSNBC relies heavily, in fact depends on, the US population remaining liberal and Dem. When that changes, and it will, they’ll sink, sink, sink. They are one note Johnnys.
jeanie on March 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM
What explains the HLN gain?
d1carter on March 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM
For the most part CNN is just as biased as MSNBC, they just don’t have an evening line up that has anything more exciting than Larry King. The thing that bugs me is this will reinforce MSNBC’s strategy of going left.
msmveritas on March 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Not a surprise.
becki51758 on March 28, 2009 at 1:58 PM
CNN: Crumbling News Network
veni vidi vici on March 28, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Can’t say I’m shocked.
vcferlita on March 28, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Now, that’s puzzling. I always thought the liberal viewpoint (AKA the “self-evident truth”) sells itself.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM
For CNN to be losing to MSLSD, would be like Fox News Channel losing to a John Birch Society (or Ron Paul) channel. How have the mighty fallen.
eaglewingz08 on March 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM
MSNBC and CNN are just fighting over that small moonbat portion of the population.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:02 PM
How on God’s green earth has Wolf Blitzer kept a job? HOW? Does he have naked pictures of Turner with a goat?
marklmail on March 28, 2009 at 2:02 PM
FIFY
Del Dolemonte on March 28, 2009 at 2:03 PM
The only shining light over there is Lou Dobbs and soon, he will be ousted I’m sure. Their nine o’ clock hour hosts a man that they have to wake from his crypt before the show. What does CNN expect?
Congratulations, Fox. We TRULY surround them.
HornetSting on March 28, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Campbell Brown has charisma? Who knew?
Wethal on March 28, 2009 at 2:04 PM
I have to say, I do enjoy Campbell’s show and never detect a bias from her. She goes after the people on either side who deserve to be put in line. I agree that Larry King needs to go, and also that Roland Martin is in no way cut out to host his own show on weeknights. He lacks everything a host needs, he’s good for punditry and that’s it.
zembla on March 28, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I’ve always thought Dobbs belongs on Fox. He makes too much sense too much of the time to be on Moonbat Central.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Oh wait, Moonbat Central is now MSNBC.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM
That’s a shame. I don’t watch CNN but I still like it better than MSNBC. And while I think anchors like Brown have a liberal slant at least she occasionally lambastes some Dems. And Larry King is not a hyper-partisan. I think the main reason why it is losing an audience is because it’s dull. Larry King and Campbell Brown are boring to watch. The only time I watch Larry King is when the other cable news channels have boring guests and his guest his more interesting, which isn’t often.
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Wolfgang, who as far as I can tell from extensive research had no journalistic training whatsoever, has lasted this long because he simply refuses to go home-he literally lives at CNN Headquarters. The man is on that network 7 days a week.
CNN’s problem is that their bias is so blatant it can be instantly fact-checked. For example, during the 2008 campaign Soup “Bias and Bull” Brown sniffed about the evil Sarah Palin returning to work so soon after her kid was born.
It took internet sleuths about 5 minutes to find out that Ms. Brown had herself done the exact same thing.
Del Dolemonte on March 28, 2009 at 2:08 PM
I would relish their fall, except for who took second place. Please tell me it is just that CNN is falling faster.
Vashta.Nerada on March 28, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Whew…….sigh of relief
Vashta.Nerada on March 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM
I think that Wolf Blitzer remains employed because CNN thinks of him as their Brit Hume.
Of course, he couldn’t wash Brit Hume’s jock, but that is beside the point.
myrenovations on March 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Well this just shows that actions have consequences. If your going to spend an entire election cycle reporting news in a blatantly bias fashion and deliberately trying to get a particular candidate elected viewers are going to notice. Especialy if the candidate that you pushed so hard for turns out to be as big a dunce as Obama is.
Dreadnought223 on March 28, 2009 at 2:10 PM
HornetSting on March 28, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Did you see the Dobbs segment on the amnesty bill the Piglet is trying to ram through Congress??? Dobbs did a good job calling this bill what it is.
Keemo on March 28, 2009 at 2:12 PM
My. Remote. Will. Not. Click. On. CNN.
Evaaaaaah!
Who is Campbell Brown?
Knucklehead on March 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Uh but MSNBC is now number 2. They more partisan that CNN. That’s not a good thing.
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:13 PM
A good programming executive, or at least a good business man would look at Fox to try and figure out what it is they are doing right. Why are their ratings consistenly the highest? What do they do differently? Then he would try and emulate it on his network.
But since most news networks are run by liberal thinking people, they assume it’s the peoples fault for watching the wrong network. It’s just that they (the viewers) don’t understand what is good and important. Time for government intervention.
I really do see where CNN is too big to fail. Then need new regulations and bail out money. If not the only working alternative most of these journalists have is at MCDonalds or the federal governmen. I don’t want them in either.
Tommy_G on March 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM
News is finally dead.
It’s not like we haven’t seen it coming.
AnninCA on March 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM
I channel surfed on to Larry King the other night.
He had several different people on talking about the death of Natasha Richardson. One guy was on the set specifically to talk about how celebs are dealing with the death.
Another guy was a doctor, who hadn’t worked on Natasha, but was making educated guess about her injury and what-not.
Who in the hell can watch that kind of crap for an entire hour?
myrenovations on March 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Meh, so more moonbats think MSNBC is preferable to CNN.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I wouldn’t watch CNN regardless. Not after that deal with Saddam.
Spirit of 1776 on March 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM
The reason they are in third place and Fox came into existence is because they can’t even tell the truth about their mission statement. Their coverage starting in the late 80’s became so slanted that they came to be known as the Clinton Network News. Then/now they still suffer from BDS. This all the while claiming they are about news rather than the PR wing of the Dem party.
Worse still they couldn’t even cover a war without bias. From the Peter Arnett during the gulf war to Eason Jordon’s cozy relationship with Saddam.
They are right where they deserve to be.
patrick neid on March 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Note to liberals: You know what will bring Fox News down from its number one spot? Another conservative cable network. Fox News has cornered the market on conservative cable television news. If someone else would appear, their ratings would drastically go down.
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM
I don’t think it is a good sign that people are going to hyper-partisan news. Although, I must admit I’m a hypocrite when it comes to this. I watch O’Reilly sometimes, who is a partisan himself. So I’m contributing to the problem.
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Really? Conservatives “scoffing” at Rick Sanchez? The horror!
RMR on March 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Maybe CNN could do straight reporting by covering news from both right and left.
Their viewers on the left would have their heads explode, not that there’s anything wrong with that…
Right_of_Attila on March 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
I think CNN should ditch the idea of hiring partisans or former government officials or whatever, and chart out some new ANTI-partisan, hyper-critical, anti-politician ground.
We need a network that starts with the assumption that anyone in government is lying, regardless of party, and does some hard reporting.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:24 PM
The sad thing is from all three cable news networks, CNN is probably the network that has more straight news reporting than the others and it’s not working for them.
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Cue Rick Sanchez.
//tiny vomit
WaltDakota on March 28, 2009 at 2:25 PM
And come on… people on both sides would eat that up! Imagine the entertainment value of a network that went out ever day of the week, and made our political class look like bumbling idiots.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Yeah, part of their problem is they may genuinely not see a difference. Most viewers aren’t so myopic.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I would love a channel that does “straight” news. Don’t interpret it for us, don’t bring in pundits that provide spin, just do a Joe Friday – “All we want are the facts, mam”.
If they want to have some programs for straight news and some for punditry, fine. Just don’t mix the 2 together. And make it clear which is which. If there is going to be analysis in a news program, do it the way Fox does with Special Report and have a segment that is clearly opinion and analysis.
huckleberryfriend on March 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I bet MSNBC’s viewership was down when the Marxist protesters were in the streets and away from their TV’s.
artist on March 28, 2009 at 2:27 PM
This will all change when we have mandatory Obama-vision.
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Dobbs has been ALL OVER the amnesty thing, to his own detriment. He is enemy number one for groups like la raza and maldef and I love him for it. Needs to move to Fox and take over Geraldo’s slot.
Geraldo Rivera: Proof that God is a prankster.
HornetSting on March 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM
It is not straight news reporting when a CNN reporter is at the site of a news making event and rather than just telling people what the event is, how it happend and so forth, they say things like “The Obama administration has been all over this news making event, which is a drastic departure from how the Bush administration previously mishandled such news making events.”
myrenovations on March 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Their “straight reporting” though is so heavily biased that it makes a sham of the term. At least MSNBC is honest and up-front in its bias.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Evidence with the assertion please.
Spirit of 1776 on March 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM
I wouldn’t worry about it. Their ratings still suck compared to Fox News. The reason MSNBC has seen its ratings increase is because they’re so blatantly in the tank for Obama and the Dems that the crazy leftists all tune into that network for their “news”. And with Fox getting all the conservative viewers and a lot of independents and even a fair number of Dems(likely the level-headed ones, not the ideologues), that leaves nothing for CNN.
Doughboy on March 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM
We need a network that isn’t personality driven… I want to go to a network and NOT see O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, etc. I want to see a rotation of personalities that show up now and then, but spend long cycles researching and preparing an interview or report. I have no confidence that most “talking heads” have even as much knowledge of the daily news cycle as I do.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Then people will be throwing their TV sets out the window, or else just watching DVDs or whatever. Obama is a yawn.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I’m shocked that Olberman is as high as he is. What does he have to give the loony liberal audience since Bush retired?
DannoJyd on March 28, 2009 at 2:30 PM
You’re right — CNN and MSNBC are competing for the same Lefty crowd (despite CNN’s risible claims to be a “straight news” network) and meanwhile FOX is outdrawing the two put together. Another Right-leaning network would cut into FOX’s preeminence and balance the field.
But, somehow, I don’t think that would help CNN’s declining market share.
cruadin on March 28, 2009 at 2:30 PM
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Guys, you sound silly… there is no question that CNN is now the most impartial network. It isn’t even worth discussing.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Seriously, though, the only thing that is better on CNN is Lou Dobbs (vs. Shep Smith).
Maybe Fox could make a swap.
Note to CNN: To continue receiving your “great” ratings, just let Anderson Cooper have his “AC 360 24hrs/day 7days/week” show… You know condescending snarkiness is always a draw…
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Here’s your “straight news CNN” : link. Plenty of examples like this. CNN actively slants the news.
Spirit of 1776 on March 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Nah all that is, is all the hard core lefty’s moving to a louder echo chamber. CNN’s problem is that they trashed their credibility during the election but they aren’t seen as being as committed to the cause as MSNBC is. The only choice left for them now is either go further down the left wing rabbit hole chasing that audience or get tough on Obama and try and lure back the independent and moderate conservative audience (but that’s going to be a tough sell because of their credibility issues).
Dreadnought223 on March 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM
We could ask Gordon Brown if we could borrow some of his DVDs… I think they work in North America (we can only hope).
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Then go to Fox as what you are looking for are known as the guests on O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck, …
DannoJyd on March 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM
ANother right-leaning network just might put both CNN and MSNBC way below the Game Show Network.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Discussion is futile!!! Do not question anything!!!
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM
ROTFLMAOKABTF!!!
DannoJyd on March 28, 2009 at 2:34 PM
DannoJyd on March 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Haha… no. If guest segments on O’Reilly are what you consider thoughtful, informative journalism, than you and MSNBC/Fox/sorta-CNN deserve each other.
Wow.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Maybe they can steal Bobbie Battista back from the Onion.
You Can’t Make This Up: Former CNN Anchor Now Working for The Onion
lowandslow on March 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Ha
Couldn’t agree more
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Show us some proof.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I only watch Dobbs and I’m waiting for the day he sees the light and moves to Fox.
I tried to give Campbell Brown a chance, but she lost me during the general election when she constantly trashed Palin.
CNN’s problem is that they tout that they’re “straight news”, but their bias and slant is so glaring, it’s embarrassing that they don’t see it. I can’t stand MSNBC, but at least they’re openly left-wing and biased and aren’t ashamed to broadcast it.
The lesson for CNN is to take a position and stick to it. When you try to be in the middle, it just doesn’t work.
yogi41 on March 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
So is this good news or bad. MS-NBC is horrible. I think that Satan is actually on the payroll. So the fact that is is second is not good news.
I have yet to see anything on CNN even remotely critical of Obama… not that I check often but it is all cheerleading. Dobbs excepting, of course. I don’t even check in with MSNBC anymore.
I leave it on FOX… which is sad because I used to want a little variety… but down right cheerleading just makes me want to puke… so it’s “fair and balanced” for me.
petunia on March 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
I never got the impression that O’Reilly was a partisan. But then, I can only take O’Reilly is small doses. He has that stereotypical Irish stubborn streak in him that can get annoying. It’s as if anyone that doesn’t agree with the Book of Bill is a “pinhead.”
eaglescout1998 on March 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Hmmm… in which timeslot would you say CNN is more partisan than either Fox of MSNBC? Methinks you haven’t thought this through.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
I don’t know of any other network that trashed their credibility more than MSNBC during the election. My goodness, MSNBC had Obama cheerleaders Matthews and Olbermann covered the debates and election results. If not mistaken didn’t one them even moderate a debate during the Dem primary? That’s a big no-no when trying to build credibility. All this and MSNBC still beat CNN. That’s nuts!
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Then why is it still on in every McDonald’s and airport?
Really, though, I’d rather they just turn the television off, since even Fox spends plenty of time on pointless celebrity reporting and such. Just doesn’t go well with McGriddles. Actually, the “personality” shows probably have the most intelligent reporting.
kc8ukw on March 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM
I agree that most of the actual reporting at CNN isn’t very slanted; however, whenever CNN get’s their opinion panel, it’s more of a joke than anything FOX news can put together.
It usually consists of 10 moderates, 9 flaming liberals, and 1 paleo-conservative (I’m barely exaggerating), and the so called moderates are afraid to ever disagree with the liberals for fear of having a slap fight.
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
I actually watch more CNN on the weekends than I do Fox News. Not in the morning/afternoon, because the Fox business stuff is much better than what CNN has.
But early evening, on a Saturday/Sunday, I have CNN for news updates.
myrenovations on March 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Economic crisis explained: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450&hl=en
Constitution1st on March 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
AC 360… Oh, and in all fairness, Lou Dobbs holds stronger opinions than Shep.
Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM
thomasaur on March 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Yahoo news reports that UPS has pulled advertising from Bill O’Reilly’s show. Cuz’ it’s evil, or something.
Good thing I have a choice about courier service. Unless I hear that it’s not true, I will be using not be using UPS for a while. I absolutely hate their commerticials anyway.
connertown on March 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM
They’re at least as partisan as Fox, maybe less partisan than MSNBC. It’s just that liberal bias is taken to be “reality”, not bias at all.
Ask Hillary Clinton which network was most impartial during the election season.
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM
By partisan, I mean we know where he stands on issues. I know O’Reilly’s position on abortion, gay marriage, immigration. I don’t expect straight news for him nor should I.
terryannonline on March 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM
O’Reilly, Beck, and Hannity have repeatedly said where they stand as far as how they normally vote and what type of candidates they gravitate toward. They are absolutely open about it.
Therefore, the audience knows exactly what angle those 3 are going to come at any given story.
When CNN tires to claim they do “straight reporting”, they are implying they’re covering all angles of the story without any huffing and puffing towards the point of view they disagree with. Ahh, but they do huff and puff. And don’t always cover every angle. This occasionally turns viewers off (me) b/c they don’t want an anchor telling them how to feel about something when the anchor won’t even be straight.
So, even though Beck rarely has a dissenting opinion on his show, he’s so open about his views, the audience knows what to expect.
This is why Beck and O’Reilly say that America is still a center-right country or “we surround them”, b/c even though Fox tends to be more conservative, they still have more viewers. So if people are going to choose an “ideology” (or a more truthful definition – sticking to the Founding Fathers America), they will choose to listen to that viewpoint.
yellow_railroad on March 28, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Not directly from him, but he has leftist people on his show all the time to tell their POV.
yellow_railroad on March 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I’d say compare the negative stories about Palin on Fox with the negative stories about Obama on CNN (if any).
ddrintn on March 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
What can
BrownObama do for you?Upstater85 on March 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
CNN should really do some introspection and push themselves to be bias free journalism. I used to watch MSNBC because it was less partisan than Fox. Of course they are now hyperpartisan and without credibility. I watch Fox for the most part but I would watch news coverage that did their level best to remove the bias altogether. They should also put Larry King out to pasture.
msmveritas on March 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Actually, CNN doesn’t match up well… flip Cooper and King to get more apt comparisons and it isn’t even close. I’m not saying that there is no bias on CNN, but it’s stupid to assert that Hannity is less biased than Cooper. Or that O’Reilly is less overtly opinionated than Blitzer, etc etc.
And on Fox you tend to get very polarized caricatures screaming at each other. At least on CNN you get intelligent people saying intelligent things once in a while.
Like I said, though… they all suck. The idea I described above is the key to having a good cable news network… maybe someone will do it one day.
DaveS on March 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I realize that thinking is passe in your party but we still do it on this side of the aisle. We can’t all get those “thrills up our legs” that tell us how to vote you know. All this stupid Obama crap could have been avoided if you all tried to use your dormant brains instead of your thrill levels.
O’Reilly isn’t a Journalist he is a Commentator… His job is to have opinions… I know that is a difficult concept that someone could tell the difference between commentators and news readers in your world, but with a little practice you might catch on.
petunia on March 28, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Moonbat analytical thinking:
MSNBC >>>> 5 letters
CNN >>>>>> 3 letters
Therefore: MSNBC MUST be better
Yoop on March 28, 2009 at 2:47 PM
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