Video: Do you trust Congress with health care after AIG?
posted at 12:20 pm on March 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Conservatives for Patients Rights formed earlier this year to push back against the expected nationalization of health care from Barack Obama. Rick Scott, who built two health-care provider companies, asks if Americans want to trust their health-care service to the 535 people who couldn’t find the AIG bonus exemption in the stimulus bill they passed:
Isn’t it amazing folks in Congress were shocked the plan THEY passed allowed those huge bonuses for AIG?
Now some in Congress want to raise taxes and spend $634 billion for the President’s health care overhaul – - WITHOUT even seeing all the details of his plan.
They just never seem to learn.
Call Congress today. Tell them not to raise taxes and spend billions messing with your health care without knowing what they’re buying first.
It’s an effective ad, and a good question. What will be the Outrage Du Jour when the federal government takes over the health-care industry? How many doctors and nurses will the populist mob chase out of clinics and hospitals through ignorance and hostility? And how many of these 535 people will really read the enabling acts for nationalization?
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Conservatives for Patients Rights have been running some pretty good radio ads here in norteast Ohio, for a couple of weeks now.
Easy to understand is the key to reaching more and more people.
myrenovations on March 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Is this internet only? It’s the dolts that watch tv and voted for Obama that need to see this stuff.
katy on March 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM
As much as I trust my ex-husband.
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I don’t trust government with anything. Maybe defense is an exception, and I know they waste money there, but at least I get some benefit from that.
Vashta.Nerada on March 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Do you trust Congress with health care after AIG?
Let’s say no…….I do not trust ODumma, either…
t on March 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Government by the congress, for the congress, etc, etc. Get in line for your healthcare…. when are these folks going to understand it is not a healthcare problem, it is a healthcare access problem. There aren’t enough doctors to treat the sick and the government can’t manage itself let alone a domestic program with this magnatude
workingforpigs on March 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
I didn’t trust them before AIG.
Dreadnought223 on March 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Repear the commercial with similar examples:
- Walter Reed medical center conditions
- Budget deficits
WashJeff on March 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Not just the bonuses but the lack of oversight of the gses aided and abetted by the democraps.
eaglewingz08 on March 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM
This reminds me of a 60′s song, I think it was “Sunshine” (help me out here as I can’t remember the title or artist) but it had a line in it that went, “he can’t even run his own life and I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine…”
That line is very apropos for this situation as well as our economic situation, the government can’t even run its own affairs right and it wants to run ours…I say NO THANKS or as my dad says, “don’t do me no favors!”
Liberty or Death on March 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Forget, “after AIG.” The question is, “After Madoff.” If you can’t stop a $50B Ponzy scheme after it is handed to you on a silver platter and can be discovered with a minimal amount of effort (like checking a single trade) then you can’t be trusted to do anything important.
TheBigOldDog on March 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM
You’ll have to interrupt their ‘stories’.
AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM
The Democrats want Wal-Mart-Care…
Skywise on March 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM
NO
BetseyRoss on March 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM
If anyone thinks Kaiser is a pain in the ass as a health care provider/insurer, just wait until the communist in charge gets his way. It will be the end of the health care profession and biotechnology (with the exception of developing new ways to kill humans)!
Nice job democrats, I mean COMMUNISTS!
calguyintexas on March 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM
I want the government to run my healthcare, about as much as I want personal grooming and diet advice from Michael Moore.
MDWNJ on March 27, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I wouldn’t trust congress to give me the correct time of day if they were looking directly at the output display of an atomic clock.
rplat on March 27, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Congress passes bills without reading them. Any one of us can do that. So, what else do they offer that makes them uniquely qualified?
a capella on March 27, 2009 at 12:34 PM
I don’t trust any of those clowns on either side of the aisle.
Not for nothing but, the GOP had six years to do something about health care and stop the march of Socialized medicine dead in its tracks, and what did they do? They expanded Medicare.
Rae on March 27, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Wonder what the gop counter proposal will be?
A picture of a doctor?
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM
With Friends like these, who needs the Taliban to destroy the heart and soul of America
I actually didnt think Kaiser was that bad. i had it growing up in cali and except for wait times and being restricted to Kaiser facilities it really was not that bad.
Yngmarine on March 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM
At this point, I wouldn’t trust Congress to pass a collection plate down a pew.
kingsjester on March 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM
But…but….but isn’t that the way Congress does things now. PASS IT REALLY FAST! That way we can repent at our leisure.
GarandFan on March 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Yay!!!!! Do it call. Ask for Nancy’s office. They were mean to me yesterday when I responded to that dorky ad that says poor poor Obama inherited a terrilbe job… and he needs all our wealth to help him get over the loss… Or something like that.
But this ad. This is right on.
No I don’t trust these bozos to do anything right.
We need TERM LIMITS AMEND THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! DO IT NOW!!!!! GET THESE GUYS OUT SO WE CAN RECLAIM OUR COUNTRY!!!!
petunia on March 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Leave my health care alone!!!!!
Maxx on March 27, 2009 at 12:37 PM
If you need another example of the government taking over something that was very good and turning it into an expensive horrible mess just look at the public schools.
Maxx on March 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Well, I’ll post it one more time, then I’ll take a hint, lol.
I don’t want government to make my career and health care as efficient as the US Postal Service, compassionate as the IRS or as easily accessable as the Department of Motor Vehicles.
I wouldn’t trust congress to run a bake sale much less health care.
DrAllecon on March 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM
I think a hunky, hairy, sweaty man might help take your mind off your troubles. It’s never too late.
a capella on March 27, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Yeah, kind of like the Democratic counter proposal to missile defense.
Actually, something a little less socialist. Conservatives have proposed alternatives.
amerpundit on March 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Creepy.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:44 PM
You are encouraging it to reproduce?
myrenovations on March 27, 2009 at 12:45 PM
The goal is to make it cheaper so we can compete.
Lets wait on the plan before saying no.
Geez.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Sunshine go away today,
I don’t feel much like dancin’
Some man’s gone, he’s tried to run my life
Don’t know what he’s askin’
He tells me I’d better get in line
Can’t hear what he’s sayin’
When I grow up, I’m gonna make it mine
These ain’t dues I been payin’
How much does it cost? I’ll buy it.
The time is all we’ve lost. I’ll try it.
He can’t even run his own life,
I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine
Sunshine
Sunshine go away today,
I don’t feel much like dancin’
Some man’s gone, he’s tried to run my life
Don’t know what he’s askin’
Working starts to make me wonder where
fruits of what I do are going
He says in love and war all is fair
He’s got cards he ain’t showin’
How much does it cost? I’ll buy it.
The time is all we’ve lost. I’ll try it.
He can’t even run his own life,
I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine
Sunshine
Sunshine come on back another day
I promise you I’ll be singin’
This old world she’s gonna turn around
brand new bells’ll be ringin’
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Yngmarine,
I also had Kaiser in California, you must not be a native if you call it Cali, and it is not bad for standard stuff, but if you have a serious need like my mom, you are out of luck, as my dearly departed mother was from Kaiser’s ineptitude.
And for those of you anti-Californians out there, it was a great state until everyone’s else’s freaks moved there and fucked it up beyond all repair causing the natives who built a great state with help from half of Oklahoma and Texas beginning in the 40′s to have to leave.
calguyintexas on March 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Yes, because we all know that the left waited for the Bush Administration to release a full, detailed proposals before blasting them. You know, minds don’t get erased on January 20th every four to eight years.
amerpundit on March 27, 2009 at 12:48 PM
IBM lobbies for $30B in stimulus money, plans to move even more jobs overseas
MB4 on March 27, 2009 at 12:49 PM
amerpundit on March 27, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Ah, the old they did it too argument.
Grow up.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Good. I like how this spokesperson looks like a healthy, not even a little bit evil James Carville, who looks like an orc.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Inexpensive would be nice. Cheap is deadly.
AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
I don’t trust Congress to hold a bake sale.
thomasaur on March 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
don’t feed the trolls. don’t do it.
maineconservative on March 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Hey Ed!
Sidebar.
Who are links that contain “cnn” sent to the cornfield?
MB4 on March 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM
My high school drill team did a routine to that song.
Our govenment is poised to propose a form of Health care that has been proven to not be effective. Soylent Green, anyone?
kingsjester on March 27, 2009 at 12:51 PM
maineconservative on March 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
Don’t do it.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Yeah, what could go wrong? Let me count the ways…Let’s see, the govt. runs the following and they are all either bankrupt or fraught w/so much fraud and corruption, they should be terminated…
*US Postal Service – Bankrupt
*Social Security – Bankrupt
*Medicare – Bankrupt
*Medicaid – Bankrupt
*Amtrak – Hasn’t turned a profit since Govt. Took it over 40 years ago.
*Walter Reed – Broken
Just a start. What else?
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 12:52 PM
At least they mastered third grade level grammar.
Out of the two or three irrelevant sentences you usually post, is it too much trouble to ask that they be intelligible?
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Yeah. Because the government is soooooooooo good at saving money…
pullingmyhairout on March 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Cheaper? You mean “free”, right?
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Thanks grammar police.
Do you have a point or just want to play teacher?
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:54 PM
The same people who ripped down Bush immediately at every turn suddenly demand that Republicans give Obama time to release detailed proposals and make his argument. And I’m the one who needs to grow up? Try again.
amerpundit on March 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM
No, health care is good business and helps the economy.
Cheaper is the goal.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Take two aspirins and get in the appointment scheduling queue.
Sigmund on March 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Don’t need to read no stinkin bills,
pass the dam(n)bill,will worry about
it later,
besides,Liberals are working really really
hard,for the American people, during this
biblical catostrophic doomsday neverending
ongoing ‘CRISIS’!!!
(Snark).
canopfor on March 27, 2009 at 12:56 PM
To decide who gets treated, to what extent they get treated, and who lives and who dies . . . that’s the goal. This regime wants to control every aspect of your life from birth to death. I demand liberty and I’ll take my chances with disease.
rplat on March 27, 2009 at 12:58 PM
+100. I want one of these dumbass liberals to tell me exactly how access is going to improve once we’re all on the equivalent of Medicare. It’s already a nightmare trying to find a doctor to see new Medicare patients. How brain damaged would a person have to be to think this is going to improve when all of a sudden we have 300 million Obamacare individuals in this country? Gads there will be people lined up at the ER to have splinters removed. Then, of course, the new Ministry of Health Care board of bureaucrats will have to confer first about how to direct the doctor as to the best way of removing the splinter. We’re doomed with this boondoggle.
It’s too bad we don’t have more intelligent and thoughtful trolls here who could actually articulate an argument in favor of this craptacular. I’d love to hear it.
NoLeftTurn on March 27, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I work in healthcare and all I see will happen to it when the government gets it’s mitts on it is: rationed care, unionized employees, specialists and nurses leaving the system in droves because they won’t be properly paid, and the absolute worsening of the health of the American citizen.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Congress in charge of Health Care?? I simply refuse to response that is so ludicrous!! My advice to all is DON’T GET SICK!!!
Dire Straits on March 27, 2009 at 12:58 PM
There is no plan you moron. Your leader gets things passed and then makes it up as he goes.
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Can you imagine the same type of person who works at the Department of Motor Vehicles taking your drivers licence picture helping you at your local health clinic?
That’s the kind of quality assurance we’ll get with socialized medicine.
pullingmyhairout on March 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
The problem with ‘waiting for the plan’ is that you can’t trust Congress to even READ the plan before they pass it.
I hate to bring celebrity into this, but has anyone else read the opinions that Natasha Richardson probably would not have died if she had fallen in Park City, or Vail, or almost ANY major ski resort in the US? That family can probably thank (blame) CanadaCare for their tragedy. Put it in terms the lowest common denominator can understand.
dish on March 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Actually, it’s the you wanted it, you got it argument. ALL of it. The responsibility, the ownership, the CRITICISM. It all belongs to this administration and this congress. You don’t like, don’t whine here about it. This forum critisized Bush plenty during the last 8 yrs. You however, seem incapable of any serious critique of your dear leader’s misguided plans. Your stupid one liners that attack the GOP are neither constructive or enlightened. You are LIGHTWEIGHT getalife. Thanks for playing. Now go eat your waffle. The grown-ups are in charge here.
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
I will wait for the plan before judging it and saying no.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Wow – once again, the troll getalife has managed to steer the conversation away from how the fat bandicoot democRATS will be stealing money from the “rich” to pay for socialized medicine.
whoever taught getalife tricks, did a good job.
nagee76 on March 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM
One of my Facebook friends wrote about how her eardrums were bleeding, and she was eating painkillers and sushi. The first dozen comments were: “Awesome. Drugs, sushi and rock n roll.”
I asked, “OMFG. Can they fix that?”
Her reply was, “Not without health insurance.”
This girl goes to loud concerts without earplugs, though she knew it would damage her eardrums. She has money to eat out, go out and order in. Yet, someone else is expected to pay for her hospital visits now that she recklessly damaged her health. That is wrong. These are the idiots of the left.
When I had surgery on my finger, I visited the Medicaid office. The hospital worked on adjusting rates for me, and I paid cash for my care. I know insurance is good for the life or death emergencies, but I have no dependents or any family, so I’ll just do it Russian style if it comes to it. Which I’m fine with. I prefer living my life my own, and I would not be a burden or contract myself out, either.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:02 PM
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:03 PM
No,healthcare is good business and helps the economy.
getalife on Mar 27,2009 at 12:55PM.
getalife: Like making Military soldiers pay for their own!
canopfor on March 27, 2009 at 1:03 PM
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
You forgot the word teleprompter in your childish argument.
Yeah the adults are in charge.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Yea, please. It’s about as interesting as dust.
scalleywag on March 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Nobody does until there is a plan silly.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Reading your comments once is painful enough. Expecting us to read your comments twice to discern whatever you’re on about is cruel, even torture.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Please Mr. Obama, I don’t wanna go
Hey, Mr. Obama, please don’t make me go
I had a dream last night about my comin’ medical care
Somebody said “What you’ll get is
DashleKennedy Care!’”And there I stood with a cheap rag in my mouth upon which to bite.
Please Mr. Obama, I don’t wanna go
Listen, Mr. Obama, please don’t make me go
There’s a bureaucrat a’waitin’ out there, just fixin to decide my fate
A complainer I’ve been called cuz I don’t wanna wind up screamin’ or dead
I wonder what the Kenyan word for friend is
Let’s see-friend– kemo sabe, that’s it
KEMO SABE!, HEY OUT THERE-KEMO SABE!
Nope, that itn’t it
Let’s see-friend– getalife, that’s it
GEATALIFE!, HEY OUT THERE-GETALIFE!
Nope, that sure itn’t it
Look at them durned socialists
They’re runnin’ around like a bunch of wild Kevorkians-heh, heh, heh
MB4 on March 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM
When I picture Barney Franks’s hands on freddie and Fannie, i suspect they will apply that proven business model on healthcare.
Obama consistently uses shady characters and a bulldog power grabbing approach with secret deals covering the problems.
Obama has one template and I predict it will have bioons of cost over runs and take service down many notches.
seven on March 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM
getalife
LIGHTWEIGHT.
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM
There is no comma before or.
Not a very good grammar police.
Give it a rest.
Do you have a point?
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Grow up.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Comma, much?
I don’t need to see a plan to know the government will screw it up just as it does with everything it touches.
Where you born yesterday, silly?
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM
getalife
BABY.
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:10 PM
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Ah, the premptive no.
Well, you do support the party of no.
Predictable.
Just say no.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM
OT – has anyone here watched the aftershow online shows of Fox’s Special Report (Wednesday nights, 7 PM) or Glen Beck (last night at 6)? They are excellent. And Bret Baier read my question to the panel!
Back on topic…
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Please Mr.Obama,……
MB4 on Mar 27,2009 at 1:06PM.
MB4:
Be advised,that getalife is dead in the water,battleship
barrage will commence,keep your distance in your strafing
runs!
That is all!hehe:)(Snark).
canopfor on March 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Just say no to getalife and Soylent Green.
MB4 on March 27, 2009 at 1:14 PM
This blog reminds me of arguing with children that just say no.
Do you say no on winning in Afghanistan too?
Grow up.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:14 PM
I wouldn’t tell Congress to take care of the family cat.
Dark-Star on March 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM
That’s how I do it as well. I pay $90 a month for a policy with a $5000 deductible. I have a $30 co-pay to see any PCP or specialist I want. I could pay more for a plan with a lower deductible and co-pay, but I don’t run to the doctor everytime I get the sniffles like most people in this country do. I take one of my $5.00 Wal-Mart brand cold tablets and go on with my day. Health insurance, to me, is for something catastrophic like cancer or a massive car accident. It’s not for colds.
I am REALLY happy with my BCBS plan and I am going to be MIGHTY PISSED if this asshat in the White House tries to take it away from me.
If they want to reform something, they should sit down with the major providers and discuss how they might make insurance more portable and not tied to employers, which it absolutely should not be. As someone under 40 with no health problems (knock on wood) and no dependents, I kind of resent that I am forced into choosing from a handful of health insurance plans that I will probably never benefit that much from, and which are not much cheaper than the plan I have now, but my co-worker with three kids and a wife gets to take full advantage. That amounts to an increase in pay IMO. Totally unfair to single, childless workers. If health insurance were removed from the workplace altogether, then we could all get paid more and cover our own costs. Everyone wins.
NoLeftTurn on March 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM
“The The Impotence of Proofreading,” by TAYLOR MALI
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM
trust, darnit.
Dark-Star on March 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM
The thing is, I don’t want a plan from this administration or congress. This is not the time to be addressing this issue anyway. Appropriating that 600B to set aside for something that they don’t even have a plan for in this economic climate, is in a word, IRRESPONSIBLE.
STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY JACK*SSES!
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:16 PM
O/T,and Bret Baier read my question to the panel!
ladyingray on Mar 27,2009 at 1:12PM.
ladyingray: So excellent!:):)
canopfor on March 27, 2009 at 1:17 PM
I agree…
I imagine nationalized health care as being about as successfully as the TARP plan. If congress has a hand in it, it will be a dismal failure. Only this time, we aren’t talking about the success of certain industries, we’re talking about OUR HEALTH. And if ANYONE thinks that Congress can come up with a viable solution, based on what’s come out of Capital Hill the past, oh, 10 years or so? God help them.
scalleywag on March 27, 2009 at 1:17 PM
gop new motto:
No, we can’t.
Just say no.
No way.
No.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:17 PM
This reminds me of a 60’s song, I think it was “Sunshine” (help me out here as I can’t remember the title or artist) but it had a line in it that went, “he can’t even run his own life and I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine…”
That line is very apropos for this situation as well as our economic situation, the government can’t even run its own affairs right and it wants to run ours…I say NO THANKS or as my dad says, “don’t do me no favors!”
Liberty or Death on March 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM
It was Jonathan Edwards – “Sunshine go away today, I don’t feel much like dancing…. He can’t even run his own life. I’ll be damned if he’ll run mine…” Amazing artist.
fullogas on March 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
How is my opposing the government to take over healthcare without a bill in hand to be regarded as a “pre-emptive no”?
Is that similar to the Democrats telling President Bush that the surge would “fail” before the troops ever got to Iraq? Is that similar to the Democrats saying “the war is lost” when it’s not even over yet? Is that similar to the Democrats saying “No change to Social Security” before Bush had a plan in hand? Is that similar to the Democrats not putting forward a spending bill for this current year because they didn’t want to have to bother discussing their plans with the Republicans?
Consistency, thy name is not getalife.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Getalife reminds me of a faulty computer program that is in an endless hard loop.
Do you say no to using a time exceeded parameter or a debugging tool?
Debug your code.
MB4 on March 27, 2009 at 1:19 PM
We voted for the most competent and qualified leader for our forces, and now we can only pray that the idiot who won the election will keep them safe and not bill their families for any injuries sustained in combat.
When we supported the troops during the previous administration, it was because we cared then, too, not just to score cheap political points.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:19 PM
PS re Getaclue – Get lost.
fullogas on March 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:19 PM
No.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM
NO ONE here ever considered losing an option. It was, of course, a desire of your side to lose Iraq and any other endeavor GWB proposed. But that’s just “progressive thinking”.
I hope Obama loses on his healthcare, cap and trade, and education initiatives. Let’s stay on topic, lightweight.
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM
fullogas on March 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM
No.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM
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