Video: Do you trust Congress with health care after AIG?
posted at 12:20 pm on March 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Conservatives for Patients Rights formed earlier this year to push back against the expected nationalization of health care from Barack Obama. Rick Scott, who built two health-care provider companies, asks if Americans want to trust their health-care service to the 535 people who couldn’t find the AIG bonus exemption in the stimulus bill they passed:
Isn’t it amazing folks in Congress were shocked the plan THEY passed allowed those huge bonuses for AIG?
Now some in Congress want to raise taxes and spend $634 billion for the President’s health care overhaul – - WITHOUT even seeing all the details of his plan.
They just never seem to learn.
Call Congress today. Tell them not to raise taxes and spend billions messing with your health care without knowing what they’re buying first.
It’s an effective ad, and a good question. What will be the Outrage Du Jour when the federal government takes over the health-care industry? How many doctors and nurses will the populist mob chase out of clinics and hospitals through ignorance and hostility? And how many of these 535 people will really read the enabling acts for nationalization?
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Just look at the tax code. What is going to happen over time as each Congress feels the need to tweak the healthcare plan?
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Ah, selective no.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM
No I don’t, not for a second.
And don’t go messing with it, we have a thriving healthcare industry here in Maine from all the Canadians that come here for their healthcare needs.
maineconservative on March 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Tell your children to just say no to drugs, ObamaCare, getalife and child molesters.
MB4 on March 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Thanks Knucklehead, as I said that song is very apropos for the times…
Liberty or Death on March 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Then please explain the difference.
Oh, and as my son is in the military, I care very much that we have success in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM
In fact, I’m trying to think of just one great piece of legislation that has come out of Congress in the last 10 years. Anyone?
As for Afghanistan, that’s another thread. Go check it out. Please.
scalleywag on March 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM
getalife
Oh wait… you’re already lost. Here’s your welfare check for this week – its a nickel – go out and buy a clue.
fullogas on March 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM
No.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM
fullogas on March 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM
No.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM
I like it. Of course, we still have John McCain, and now it’s a family act (kind of like the Aristocrats.)
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Good grief, scalleywag…you just made my head hurt.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:26 PM
This reminds me of a discussion with a child who only says “no”.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:27 PM
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Thanks. It is easy to just say no but to counter with a proposal like the budget, not so much.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:27 PM
You guys are letting getaclue take over this thread. Repeat after me: Ignore getalife.
Her arguments are nothing, she probably gets paid by Soros so that folks who hold opposite views don’t get to discuss it even on a conservative blog. She lies and we respond. Just say no.
Christian Conservative on March 27, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I just called the number in the video and voiced my displeasure with this so called national healthcare and $4 trillion dollar budget Barry is trying to ram down our throats.
The operator was laughing at me while I was speaking and then asked if I would like to speak to a senator because she didn’t take messages. I told her I didn’t want speak or leave a message for some senator who doesn’t listen, and I wanted to talk to the big boy up in the Oval Office.
Here’s the direct line to the White House comment line. 202-456-1111. Good luck getting thru. I wonder if you laughed at when you call this number?
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM
ladyingray
The intellectual lightweight cannot explain anything b/c she is an Obamabot. Pre-programmed since last year to glassy-eyed, mantra hopenchange chanting. She can neither think critically nor have a reasoned discussion about policy initiatives or there potential impact. Disengagement is probably in our best interest.
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Our future under socialized healthcare…pay attention getalife:
The Ugly Truth About Canadian Healthcare
RepubChica on March 27, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Remember how much Obama cared about Afghanistan as a US Senator on the Foreign Affairs Committee when he skipped three meetings and never met once with our own NATO allies on his own European Affairs Subcommittee? No wonder they’re all deserting us now.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM
When you’re right, you’re right.
Back on topic – Um, no, I don’t trust the government with anything.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Yeah, cut and run.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM
** you get laughed at**
don’t want to called out by the spelling police like I did yesterday
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Not to mention the Britians who are pulling their own rotten teeth because of a shortage of dentists.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Again, lets wait on the proposal and lauaghable counter proposal before saying no.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM
getalife return to base for diagnostic maintenance and overdue upgrading of central processing units and program updates. getalife come home.
DasObamaReich on March 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM
I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield through my employer. Costs me $32 a month. I’d have to be a complete lunatic to trade that in for something congress cobbled together. And I bet they’d make lunacy a pre-existing condition.
scalleywag on March 27, 2009 at 1:33 PM
RepubChica on March 27, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Seriously, we don’t need to see a plan. Why in the world when govt. healthcare is the plan in Canada and Europe do we need to see Obama’s version of it? It is the same thing. He said it yesterday. He thinks their systems are what we need. He is clueless. Just like his followers. This must be stopped!
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:33 PM
See, this is the thing that bugs me most. The politicians have perfect examples of the horrific results of government healthcare and they still want it. Are they actually arrogant enough to think they will do better?
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Yea, I remember how much he cared about visiting the Iraqi troops when he went on his “world tour” too. One of the first things he did in office, too, was to snub Purple Heart recipients. And then trying to sneak through legislation to make wounded Vets pay for their own medical care and have to be talked out of it? Appalling.
scalleywag on March 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM
RepubChica
Just some more anecdotal info. Friends in Britian, who also carry private insurance, of course, write to tell us that he pissed an alarming amount of blood when out for lunch one day. Called doc immediately. Got an appt. 3 weeks hence to see the specialist. Pissing blood. 3 weeks. Nice.
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM
I’m with ya there. They’ll be cooking the same ol’ goose. France, Canada, UK–all modern, industrialized nations with the same result…and keep in mind our starting point is a bunch of egghead incompetents with no grasp on balancing and controlling budgets. Scary.
RepubChica on March 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Thanks. It is easy to just say no
but to counter with a proposal like the budget, not so much.
getalife on March 27, 2009 at 1:27 PM
POLITICO March 26, 2009
Categories: House Republicans
Sources: GOP leaders split on budget “blueprint”
The argument, coming a week before the full House and Senate are scheduled to vote on the budget, underscores the minority party’s woes in a mounting unified opposition to President Obama’s $3.6 trillion FY2010 budget proposal.
Ryan, the ranking Republican on the budget committee, plans to introduce a detailed substitute amendment for the Democrats’ spending plan next Wednesday — and still intends to do so.
But he and Cantor were reportedly told by Boehner and Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) they needed to move more quickly to counter Democrats’ charge they were becoming the “Party of No,” according to House GOP staffers.
The 19-page document, prepared by Pence’s office, was distributed two days after President Obama criticized Republicans for trashing his detail-crammed 142-page budget outline without producing a credible alternative.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM
That blockquote didn’t quite turn out, but here is a link to the original article by Glenn Thrush.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Ha Ha Ha! YES! This is Obama’s version of Socialism. It is an abject miserable failure of a system everywhere it has ever been tried, but that is only b/c OBAMA wasn’t in charge of it. His version will work, I just know it! Don’t you?
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 1:40 PM
scalleywag on March 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM
You’re a day late, a dollar short, not to mention a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Excellent point! The only thing you can be sure of is that the people providing the healthcare will have the least amount of input to the formation or revision of the law. That, and the absolute certainty that members of Congress and the Administration will never have to live under the health care restrictions they apply to the rest of us.
I would assume that if the government nationalizes health care providers, they will also need to seize control of pharmaceutical companies and the companies that make medical equipment. Since most of the world, and all of the awful socialist health care systems in other countries, depend on the United States to provide new drugs and advances in medical technology, this would provoke a fairly rapid collapse in the quality of life around the world. Expect a lot of confused American socialists standing around and wondering why nobody is inventing new drugs any more.
Since socialist medicine depends on compulsory use of government doctors by all private citizens (but not members of the Party, who always have superior doctors and medical equipment reserved for themselves), one place the socialst health care plan will see exploding costs is enforcement. It’s going to take a lot of undercover health cops to prevent wealthy people from jetting off to Galts’ Gulch to get surgery from covert private doctors.
Doctor Zero on March 27, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Of course, we all know how well socialised medicine works everywhere else, and OF COURSE, the Obama administration which is stacked with the best, brightest, most ethical people EVAH is right on this with the wars and the financial crisis and everything else. This is the perfect time to bring up overhauling our healthcare system.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Well, when I consider how successful his cabinet picks have been…this man is…like… *swoon*
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 1:46 PM
A little over a year ago, I spent 1 day in the ER, 2 days in ICU, and 1 more day in a standard room. The bill was over $35,000. Because I had health insurance, about $32,000 of the bill vanished into thin air. The insurance company didn’t pay it and I was told I wasn’t responsible for it, so the hospital wrote it off. Can someone explain this to me? It seems that the care I received either was only ACTUALLY worth about $3000 or the hospital saved my life at a substantial loss. The cashier I spoke to assured me that if I didn’t have insurance they would in no uncertain terms discount the bill to that extent. So, what gives? Are they making up the losses by sticking it to the uninsured or making pure profit off the uninsured and the insurance companies are just keeping them honest? I can see a huge discrepancy here, but I’m sure socialization isn’t the answer. So what is the answer… the uninsured just hand them their car or the equity in their homes and the insured enjoy huge discounts at checkout? Or should billing be actual cost of the care received plus profit margin?
Storybec on March 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I have to give credit where credit is due. I’m impressed that getalife could summarize her dogmatic inconsistencies and intellectual dishonesty in such a concise statement.
waytogo,getalife.
BlueCollarAstronaut on March 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I have been watching Hardball, painful though that might be, because Matthews seems to be blowing a gasket lately on Obama and healthcare. Chrissy seems to feel that if Obama doesn’t get healthcare in the budget he won’t be able to do the reform this year. It looks as though he is not getting it in the revised Dem budget which made Matthews crazed. He believes he needs to get it done this year or he won’t at all. This of course would cast Obama in the category of unsuccessful in his legislation. Matthews really wants Obama to be successful as we all know. He is pushing for him to ram it through in reconciliation which is looking less likely to happen. If we can escape this year without healthcare we may just dodge the bullet. I can hardly imagine the clowns in Congress doing anything other than f’ing up healthcare as we know it.
msmveritas on March 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM
oops…. make that ” they would in no uncertain terms NOT discount”
My bad!
Storybec on March 27, 2009 at 1:55 PM
OF COURSE he needs to get it done this year! You think the House is going to vote on this in an election year? The Democrats can read the polls. They have to cram as much of their agenda through as possible because they are facing a bloodbath in 2010. It will be very hard if not impossible for the next Congress to undo a new entitlement. It will simply be stuck trying to figure out how to pay for it.
This is the reverse of the Reagan era “starve the beast” philosophy. Liberals want to push through as many new entitlements and regulations as possible, so that taxes will eventually have to be raised to punishing levels to pay for them. The specifics of health are do not matter as much as the principle of a large new entitlement that will have to be paid for with higher taxes.
The bonus is a million health care workers becoming unionized government employees.
rockmom on March 27, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Because the “do you” is implied. “Or” here marks the beginning of an independent clause.
Connecting dependent and independent clauses
There are two types of words that can be used as connectors at the beginning of an independent clause: coordinating conjunctions and independent marker words.
1. Coordinating Conjunction (CC)
The seven coordinating conjunctions used as connecting words at the beginning of an independent clause are and, but, for, or, nor, so, and yet. When the second independent clause in a sentence begins with a coordinating conjunction, a comma is needed before the coordinating conjunction:
Example: Jim studied in the Sweet Shop for his chemistry quiz, but it was hard to concentrate because of the noise. (CC)
You cannot call others “childish,” when a child has better grammar. You will have to answer to being ignorant on even the most frivolous points, which is your game.
chunderroad on March 27, 2009 at 1:58 PM
My husband is in healthcare finance and let me tell you the uninsured get the biggest discount of all. It is a total lie that they don’t get treated or that they are on the hook for $400 aspirins. Your bill didn’t disappear, I am sure you are mistaken. The bill gets submitted to insurance and they negotiate. It is a very involved process but no way are they charging the poor and uninsured extravagant rates and everyone with insurance something else. It just ain’t happening.
msmveritas on March 27, 2009 at 1:59 PM
What you are talking about are called “contractuals”. Insurance companies contract with doctors, hospitals, dentists, etc. Both the insurance company and the provider know the limit that the insurance company will pay, but the provider has rates above this. The reason the provider has rates above this is so that in the event that your insurance company isn’t contracted with that particular provider or if you don’t have enough insurance, you have to pay the “contractual” part. The people who pay the contractuals are actually making up the amount from the people without insurance who will eventually be written off as “charity”.
Nationalizing healthcare will not correct this situation. Nationalizing healthcare will only create an inability to get the healthcare you need because the government stooge in charge will simply deny your treatment.
No hospital bill, no contractual, no charity, no treatment.
See how they fix things?
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 2:01 PM
I work in healthcare too adn msmveritas is correct.
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Your care was eaten by the hospital who took a loss on your admission. Hospitals constantly operate in the red, in fact a good hospital is judged by how shallowly they are in debt compared to others. They certainly don’t get their money from the uninsured, and although we are technically committing fraud when we do it, yes we do try to bill people without insurance less so they aren’t saddled with crippling debt.
Sometimes that money is made up in grants, sometimes it’s made up by insurance companies that do actually pay for the work provided to their clients, but more and more often hospitals just eat it, until they can’t eat it anymore and close. Or they apply for emergency grants and either get them, putting more strain on the system, or don’t get them and shut down.
Do some hospitals overbill to make up losses? Sure, and when they’re caught they face huge penalties (and they should).
I don’t know what the solution is either, but somehow letting the gentle hand of the govenment involve itself even deeper in health care than it already is (and it’s in pretty deep already) is like getting a rectal exam with a razor-bladed glove.
DrAllecon on March 27, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Your consistent comment regarding “seeing a plan before criticizing it” is to say the least naive in many ways. One only needs to look back at some of our governments previous stellar plans such as Medicare, Medicaid, SS, etc. to get a fairly good idea of how government run health care will go, but then again you’re blinded by heir leaders silky smooth voice, his charismatic smile, and his celebrity to look at this objectively and provide one example of where our government (under the gop or dems) has ever proven themselves to be able to run anything in a manner that would be considered successful?
Sure get-a-clue, you can wait to see the plan before you criticize it, however I’m fairly certain that even if the plan was a complete and total crap-sandwich you would still hail it as a stroke of genius by heir leader as you are incapable of criticizing THE ONE as you have drunk too deeply of the kool-aid, so don’t even try to pretend you would criticize anything coming from your messiah!
Have you ever actually read an entire government proposal from start to finish? I haven’t, although I do have 20 years experience dealing with numerous government regulatory agencies and I can tell you just trying to understand the regulations is difficult enough, then add the fact that when you try to get information and/or assistance from said government agency the person answering the phone can barely put two coherent sentences together let alone know what department to transfer you to! Therefore based on my 20 years of direct experience dealing with numerous government agencies I don’t need to see the plan to know it’s not a good idea to have our government running our health care system!
As I stated, in my 46 years on this rock I have yet to see where our government (gop or dems) have ever successfully run anything and I challenge you to show me where they have, yet you want the government to be in charge of our health care? Personally, if I had a choice between government run health care or health care run by a Walmart, I’ll take the Walmart health care any day!
Go ahead get-a-clue, you wait for that plan and read it all, then let us all at HA know if you have any concerns or criticism for your dear leader, but I won’t hold my breath!
Liberty or Death on March 27, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Thank you all for your replies…. DrAllecon in particular. Just so you all know, pollitically I consider myself a conservative libertarian. But not being in the health care industry, I couldn’t understand how in the world I could actually receive $35,000 worth of care for about $3000 after the insurance payment and my copay. To say the numbers don’t add up is the understatement of the year. As for hospitals eating losses and eventually closing, I’m not sure where this is happening. I’m in Charleston, SC and the medical industry here is thriving. If anything the hospitals are expanding or moving into brand new modern facilities. I have yet to see one close their doors here. We are also now seeing some private doctors opening their own emergency care facilities. To a laymen like me, this screams PROFIT!
Storybec on March 27, 2009 at 2:29 PM
“What will be the Outrage Du Jour when the federal government takes over the health-care industry?”
Now Ed is onto something.
This is a good theme to keep hammering.
notagool on March 27, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Caring for my health is my business. Nobody elses.
Patrick S on March 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Thank you both for explaining it in much clearer terms. Gone also are the financial contortions hospitals undertake to fund research and innovative treatments like proton therapy. I guess the government will just fund the building of new proton treatment centers to make it widely available, or not.
I sincerely hope he fails to get this through this year. The ad is right what makes anyone think the Congress that couldn’t get the AIG bonus issue straight should be in charge of deciding our healthcare treatment?
msmveritas on March 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM
SC is a wonderful place, I’ve visited there often. As you might expect different areas have different needs and are managed differently to deal with them. I’m very happy to see medicine thriving there, all the more reason to leave it alone, lol.
I’m based in upstate, NY where litigation isn’t as bad as downstate, but is still heavilly influenced by laws, rules, regulations and taxes that would make anyone’s head spin (yeah, ask me what I think of Ms. Clinton). We have a high population of uninsured/underinsured, Medicaid/Medicare patients so our hospital only losing $100k this year was considered impressive.
Sadly, hospitals here have closed making health care harder to get, and again, having Big Brother provide MORE red tape, and LESS service while ultimately consuming MORE resources to accomplish even LESS care is what I see looming in the future if this all comes to pass. At least that’s MORE or LESS how I see it.
:)
DrAllecon on March 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Original health care system, up to 1950s: the doctor is paid for his services by the patient. Doctors therefore have an incentive to be price competitive – if they charge too much, they will have no patients, provided they are prevented from monopolistic collaboration like any other healthy industry. Patients have an incentive not to use medical care unnecessarily, because they have to pay for it. The technology to perform fabulously expensive procedures didn’t exist, for the most part, so the medical system didn’t have to cope with people needing organ transplants or extensive chemotherapy treatments.
Medical system from 1960s to today: companies began offering increasingly comprehensive medical insurance as an employment incentive. Instead of covering catastrophic needs, this “insurance” came to cover virtually everything, destorying the patient incentive to use as little medical care as possible, and the doctors’ incentive to control costs. Deep pocket insurance companies pay huge amounts of money the consumers never see, and impose expensive requirements on doctors and hospitals.
Besides direct government interference, the other factor in exploding costs has been the cost of malpractice insurance and the rise of opportunistic lawsuits, resulting in malpractice insurance costs passed along to insurance companies and unnecessary “defensive medicine.” There are few systems in the world that place as much distance between the provider of a service, and the consumer. Throw in the way hospitals shift costs for covering the uninsured onto paying patients (meaning their insurance companies), and keep in mind that almost no one pays for their own health insurance directly – it’s almost always paid wholly or partially by your employer – and you have a system that looks like this:
Consumers of other products and services >> employers (who charge higher prices to cover all payroll costs, including health care) >> insurance companies >> health care providers. This runs parallel to taxpayers >> government Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs >> health care providers. Health care providers are heavily influenced by government, insurance companies, and trial lawyers, all of whom have more to say about your medical treatment than you do.
It’s a bloody mess, but it will ony get worse if taxpayers fork over huge amounts of money to the government to pay for health care, since this tax will be as “progressive” as any other. “Free” health care will do what price controls always do: reduce supply, reduce quality, increase demand. Health care is presently distributed inefficiently by a complex system of insurance companies, government agencies, and employers; under socialized medicine, it will inevitably be distrubuted by political considerations and rationing.
Doctor Zero on March 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Excellent post and very informative, thanks Doc!
Liberty or Death on March 27, 2009 at 4:37 PM
I don’t trust Democrats.
Let’s be clear here.
Anyone who is a member of the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party should not be trusted with sharp objects, much less legislation.
All the problems this country currently face, can find their source in the Democrat Party.
None of these problems will be solved, as long as Democrats are in the majority.
Because until then, the morally and intellectually bankrupt Bed Crapper in Chief, can pass his idiotic, anti-American agenda.
Congress is not the problem. Democrat scum are the problem.
NoDonkey on March 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM
LBJ’s Democrats rammed through Medicare in 1965, allowing no debate. Republicans were completely shut out of all discussion on this issue.
Healthcare spending started skyrocketing immediately after Medicare was rammed through Congress by Democrat scum.
It’s simple enough to understand moral hazard and the distortions you get from third-party payments, but Democrat scum in Congress are willfully ignorant.
NoDonkey on March 27, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Similar adds should be made regarding everything that Mr. Teleprompter is trying to shove down our throats……..
is a strong argument, and all the pork filled and hidden legislation that Mr. Teleprompter has signed in the dark of night should be highlighted against his campaign promises for openness and line by line scrutiny for “earmarks”.
Seven Percent Solution on March 27, 2009 at 5:03 PM
With some of the best insurance out there, it took over three and a half years to diagnose a disease I have. In that time, many doctors and technicians worked to help me, all over the country. That wouldn’t have happened under national healthcare. Under national healthcare, I WOULD HAVE DIED. I WOULD HAVE DIED!!!!!!!
How many people will be thrown under the bus because it costs too much or it takes too much time? Are you willing to risk being one of those people? Not me.
oakpack on March 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM
In my opinion they should keep their filthy hands off our healthcare or we cut off those hands.
boomer on March 27, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Well I’m glad you’re still with us oakpak, and your case is an excellent example of why government controlled health care is a DEADLY BAD IDEA!
Liberty or Death on March 27, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Plus one million! Glad to hear you’re okay.
The two things government should never be allowed to do is speak for a “voiceless” constituency, and pass laws if the victims can’t complain when they fail. Environmentalism is the pre-eminent example of the first, socialized medicine the most awful example of the second. The least satisfied “customers” of socialist medicine won’t be able to file complaints, because they’ll be dead.
Doctor Zero on March 27, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Would you trust,
Harry Reid to take your blood pressure?
Nancy Peloozy to prescribe your medications?
Obama to put you under the anesthesia,
while Barney Frank picks up the scalpel?
JellyToast on March 27, 2009 at 6:58 PM
I don’t trust the government to pick up litter.
darktood on March 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Getalife
You still have not answered. Do you get paid for being a shill?
I can only guess that yes you do. Your check comes monthly.
Jamson64 on March 27, 2009 at 8:12 PM
FREE health care clinics will be run by ACORN workers…
TN Mom on March 27, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Hidden Provisions
Seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.
The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid. The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined (90-92, 174-177, 181).
Hiding health legislation in a stimulus bill is intentional. Daschle supported the Clinton administration’s health-care overhaul in 1994, and attributed its failure to debate and delay. A year ago, Daschle wrote that the next president should act quickly before critics mount an opposition. “If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it,” he said. “The issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol.”
More Scrutiny Needed
The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces almost 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. Yet the bill treats health care the way European governments do: as a cost problem instead of a growth industry. Imagine limiting growth and innovation in the electronics or auto industry during this downturn. This stimulus is dangerous to your health and the economy. (via bloomberg.com 2.9.2009)
TN Mom on March 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=322959200230800
How does US healthcare stack up? READ. Way better than ANY socialist country, I’ll tell you that!
JAM on March 27, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Hey, getalife…
…how about that market today????
ladyingray on March 27, 2009 at 10:27 PM
That was very funny. Cheaper is the goal, and we’ll get that from the government?
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on March 28, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Congress could screw up a one-piece puzzle.
-Dave
Dave R. on March 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM
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