Glenn Beck: It’s time for a march on Washington
posted at 7:20 pm on March 27, 2009 by Allahpundit
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He’s playing this off like he’s just tossing out the idea, but come on: Anyone not think he’s at least toying with the possibility of planning a mass protest himself? His Oprah-fied populism is a huge hit; why not take it to the next level and see how many people he can pull into the streets for a march? He could even get this guy to don his cravat and lead the parade. It won’t do much to scare Congress so long as The One’s approval rating is high, but it might be a shot in the arm for the GOP. All they need is a date — Tax Day? May Day? — and a few hundred thousand conservatives willing to take a day off and travel a few hundred (or thousand) miles. Exit question: Would you go? Nah, you wouldn’t.
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Beck said he was invited to San Antonio, with the Alamo as a backdrop on April 15th…..he said that may be an option….San Antonio, Texas is beautiful this time of year and Fiesta is usually around that time, a whole week of great Mexican food, beer, parades, and fun. You deserve, you worked hard, hell, you might just stay there. Texas is said to be ‘recession’ proof.
HornetSting on March 27, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Just a question…anyone know how to build a guillotine? Those French sure knew how to throw a protest.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Don’t take a guillotine to Texas, you’ll get your ass kicked. Just carry your torch, you’ll be fine.
HornetSting on March 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
oink:
The longest I ever went without a whole day off was three years.
Three years of milking cows every day. I even did one milking with a broken finger. Those cows did not care what the weather was like, or if your mother died, or if you had the flue. They expected you to show up at the barn, set up the milkers and get out the feed.
I fed in the stanchion barn while I milked. That made the cows happy.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
I’d go.
At best, you get folks energized to go back to their homes and work for conservative causes.
At worst, you meet a lot of cute conservative women.
Seems like a win/win.
Jack M. on March 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
One step at a time big guy…
;o)
katy on March 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Heck man…I’m in Texas! We’re not a recession proof as everyone thinks. We do still have a budget surplus year on year with no state taxes however!
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
I believe we were talking about tea parties.
But since you bring it up.
Washington’s army went through hell before they were in such pitiful condition. Congress failed to get them enough provisions and armaments, plus the small pox outbreak etc.
It was not from a lack of will to fight. They were literally pushing their bodies to the limits of endurance. They had a rough go, no doubt about it.
They certainly weren’t worried about catching the final four after the protest.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Well the, you don’t have far to go. I guess it depends on your area. Sorry, mojo. I hear Obama says there is no shame in enjoying your little vacation…..
HornetSting on March 27, 2009 at 10:42 PM
By the way, I used to work on those d^&*med Hornets…even got the nerve to ride in one a few times.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM
A million conservatives marching to Washington. Sounds good. Let’s make history. It is possible.
apacalyps on March 27, 2009 at 10:45 PM
I plan on it, bought a new tractor and am in the process of putting in a 5 acre garden, I think I may need it before it’s all said and done.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Was the discussion about a friggin’ tea party, or not?
Geeesh!
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 10:45 PM
They had a tea party … they sacrificed something … the tea on which the government levied a tax. What are we sacrificing to starve the government of their tax or those in government of their major campaign contributors’ cash?
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Some folks apparently like weak tea.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Saltysman:
Yes, we were talking about Tea Parties and then you started talking about people refusing to pay their taxes or something. And when I pointed out that it might be hard to get people to risk a fine an imprisonment when they don’t even know they are supposed to risk a fine or imprisonment…things went south. At this point I don’t even know what you are talking about.
And yes Saltysman, there was a will to fight. Men were leaving, they were losing hope. Washington saved his army with a few very good men. But most Americans at that time were not all that gung ho.
In fact New York City actually sided with the British.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:47 PM
I have no association with those d*Y^%#E( Hornets. It just describes my life, hornet nest. BTW, I am also putting in a garden, I think we are ALL going to need one in the future. Good luck to you, mojo. When one door closes, another always opens.
HornetSting on March 27, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Go Galt…it’s all the rage this spring and summer!
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:48 PM
you don’t have the vast majority of the people behind you, unlike the civil rights movement. the silent majority was not a giant block of voters. and they didn’t necessarily like nixon. in fact, many of them hated the pigf__er, but kept with him because they were terrified of the future, the economy, vietnam, the communists, etc., and the last thing they wanted is some damn marchers and troublemakers destroying their remaining sense of normalcy.
i think first you should escape the notion that the president and his people are out to destroy this country. they have a bunch of centrist, non-ideological guys who are working like crazy to fix things. the world knows it, too, that’s why the markets still function. yes, everybody’s taxes will go up a little. you will have to put up with. as much as it pains you, paying higher taxes at this time IS THE PATRIOTIC THING TO DO.
sesquipedalian on March 27, 2009 at 10:49 PM
I’m going to be in Annapolis on the 15th, Capitol of my State, and the US for a very short time. I’m telling all I know and have garnered lots of support for the Tea Party.
People of all political stripes are pissed, we are being screwed, and it is hitting home for people of all ideologies.
From here we go down the road to Washington, play the liberal game, bitch, moan, then bitch some more. WE are the majority, we just choose to do stupid shit like work and raise our families. We simply can’t take a month off to do the leftist protest tour.
Show up at a Tea Party, if a march is planned for Washington, come if you can, I will be there. Race or financial stature is not important, just be an American that is sick of being taken advantage of.
M-14 2go on March 27, 2009 at 10:50 PM
The government already has my tax money, they took it out of my check. I got a whopping $153 back. That is the way it is with most people. They file to get money back, not to pay money. The government can take your check, your bank account…I knew a man who actually had his home padlocked by the IRS several years ago.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Liberte didn’t mix well with the wine.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Ah, just figured with the name…but no worries, I know the feeling. Opportunity is always there, it’s up to us to decide to what to do with it!
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:52 PM
First off, do you truly think the Dems would benefit by disbursement of power?
They only benefit because of the dependency on the party machine for the exorbitant sums required to get and stay elected. Reduce that dependency to affiliation, so that no one need sell their political soul to get party support, and both parties would fly to pieces and reform into new parties with new leadership, at least in the House. We may actually get the parties to separate into pro-federalist and anti-federalist parties once again and get back to cases, rather than have to keep up the current kabuki theater of supporting crap because the party says so.
The most powerful body in the Federal Government is the House, where all taxes and spending originates. If the House wants it persistently, it will become law eventually. That power was meant to be disbursed and must be, if we are to survive as a republic.
Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 10:53 PM
sesquipedalian:
So why does this centrist who just wants to fix things have so many unpatriotic people in his cabinet?
You know something? I think Obama is taking advantage of the situation to push a policy that does not have majority support.
But if you are right, what are you worried about? These Tea Party people are no threat, right?
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Terrye, bless her heart, loves a parade.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Of course I’d go.
Ah, another drive through the Shenandoah.
Another drive through: Palin Country!
Hey, anybody notice how we get WAY LESS troll activity on the non-Sarah threads? I wonder why?
Sapwolf on March 27, 2009 at 10:54 PM
By unpatriotic people I am referring to all the people who just could not be bothered to pay their frikking taxes until someone put some heat on them.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM
You obviously made too much money! Spend more time sitting on the porch smoking a doob and drinking beer and less time working and you can get back more than you paid in!
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Mark Levin uses “statism” as in “look at this peachy kean new term I invented.” Hey Mark, no one has a clue what that means and its not gonna catch on. The days of the gop coming up with slogans and terms to win elections is so 2004. Like the true braindead conservative he is, he thinks writing a red meat book for his cult will inspire his “cause”. Mark, you’ve already got the base, you need moderates and independents to win elections. Those groups think todays conservatives are whacked. Their not going to join your coalition. Modern conservatism won’t change their litmus test. Results, Democrats win more seats. Any questions?
athensboy on March 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Random:
Ross Perot=Bill Clinton.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM
OMG…
Starship URANUS is due to arrive at 0600 hrs. They are taking you home good buddy…
katy on March 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM
I’d gladly attend a local tea party if I knew ahead of time when and where so I could schedule some vacation time if need be from work.
Yakko77 on March 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Saltysman:
No, in fact I don’t like parades. Never did.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Thank you, Joe Biden. I think your hairplugs are eating through your brain.
HornetSting on March 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Maybe it’s time for patriotic people to follow that example? Hrmmm….
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Yacco:
Try googling Tea Party for your state. Something might pop up.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Right about the time government spending is cut back and no new programs are launched. It’s a two way street.
Cindy Munford on March 27, 2009 at 11:01 PM
As I said before, my little fantasy just is not going to happen, short of a major upheaval. The current system is so entrenched it would take a civil war to knock the bloated posteriors of both parties off enough pedistals to make it happen, and the possibility of other, less desirable ends to such an upheaval make me shudder and pray that I and everyone I love are long dead before it happens.
In the real world, rather than my preferable one, I will stick to trying to get some responsive reform from the GOP rather than piss away my efforts on a fantasy. If the circumstances change to where my preferred outcome is possible without bloodshed, however, expect me to get behind it and push.
Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM
The Tea Party got the throne’s attention?
It was, yet another, direct threat to the King’s tax revenue?
It was an ACT of audacity, and not a wonderful day chatting with friends and walking around with cute slogans on their signs attempting to re-create outright bravery that happened a couple of hundred years before.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I do know a couple of people who pay quarterly who are talking about not filing. I would not be surprised if some people simply refused to. And if they are willing to pay the price if caught, that is up to them.
But I think that organizing a tax boycott would be difficult. People have responsibilities and families to take care of and will be hesitant to risk trouble with the IRS.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:05 PM
I’d contribute $$ to a fund to bring over Daniel Hannan!
Bring over Hannan for a Boston Tea Party!
How great would that be…a Brit speaking out against taxation at The Boston Tea Party redux
moxie_neanderthal on March 27, 2009 at 8:12 PM
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Now that is clever
I would donate too.
scruplesrx on March 27, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Saltysam:
I am running out of ways to make my point. What are you going to do sky write it? We are talking on the internet here right? There are literally hundreds of millions of people in this country. Will this be a spontaneous psychic sort of thing?
Do you see what I am saying. It would take some organization to get all those people to refuse to pay their taxes because some people on the internet told them not to. Or because Rush told them not to or because Glenn Beck told them not to.
I can see individuals coming to this decision, but not tens of millions of people who do not know each other.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Nuh uh uh. Remember the their/they’re rule. :) Heh, just kidding.
NathanG on March 27, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Ralph Nader + Pat Buchanan = GW Bush
Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM
“athensboy on March 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM”
Right. If you have nothing to add to the conversation or can’t actually argue the point, you simply attack the messenger and call names and stuff. Pretty typical elementary school playground debate technique.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:11 PM
And Saltysman you completely ignore the fact that most American Colonists did not take part in the Revolution. Most Americans did not make the kind of sacrifice that our founding fathers did. Most of them did not make the kind of sacrifice that the men who actually fought made either.
And yes, what those men did took audacity and courage, it really did. But this is not 1776. The number one concern of most Americans today is not getting Independence from the British, it is keeping their jobs.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:13 PM
What we need is an ‘incident’. One where some little guy gets abused by the government, and stands up to them. Then Obama bullies him and kills him and/or the ones around him by overreacting to the situation.
Draw the line. Obama crosses it. A few bones and lives are broken. The fire is lit.
We need a martyr. Then the marching will come.
Sapwolf on March 27, 2009 at 11:13 PM
I know the 4th is the appropriate day but I will be in Little Rock, AR…family meeting. Unless Huckabee organizes something there *ducking shoes*
ProudPalinFan on March 27, 2009 at 11:13 PM
I would go. I think it is time.
unseen on March 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Terrye … if you don’t pay your taxes they just take away your car, your bank account, garnish your wages … and eventually send over the sheriff to evict you so they can sell your house.
You don’t really own anything in this country. You rent it from the government. And every year they raise the rent.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Random:
True enough. But that was the end of Nadar wasn’t it? And for that matter 1992 was pretty much the end of Perot.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
How about a caravan all the way across the US from LA for the
Freedom March in Washington? Flags and banners flying to let everyone along the way know where we are going and what we intend to do when we get there. Perhaps pick up some folks along the way who would like to join the party caravan.
Designated places to start out the journey from one end of the west coast published on HotAir or Tea Party postings.
Also, perhaps a train party to Washington.
What do you think Calgrammy?
dragondrop on March 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Well…
in my case…
it’s because I have responsibilities to my family that I’d be willing to risk trouble with the Federal government and its thug arm, the IRS.
What am I supposed to do?
Pay my taxes like a good little peasant, and struggle for words when my children say, “Daddy, I’m hungry.”
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:16 PM
crosspatch:
This is true. That was kind of my point. If you refuse to pay, they just come get it.
Look at property taxes. A piece of property can be yours free and clear, but if you fail to pay the taxes the state will take it. It is like renting your own property.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:16 PM
You’re right, the revolution was STARTED by a very few with a grand dream. The average man was drawn into it when they saw the horrors that were being perpetrated to try to stop what those few had started. The British poured gasoline on a smouldering fire and caused a conflagration.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM
But some will. And when YouTube has all the arrests, intimidation, blatant government abuse all over, tempers will flare is some of the populace. Throw in a protest at an IRS office that gets out of hand, or somebody firing a gun off nearby just like at Lexington Green. Hey, all huge snowballs stared very tiny.
Marches are driven by PASSION.
Sapwolf on March 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Nice debate concerning not paying taxes.
Easiest way is to file Form 4868 and attach a ten dollar check, or some similar low amount instead of the entire amount. This is an extension until October 15th at which time a 1040 must be filed and taxes paid; for all those who owe, it is the way to place more stress on the communist in chief’s plans. That’s my plan because I’ll be busy at the Alamo on April 15th!
calguyintexas on March 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Saltysman:
Do what you want, but that does not mean you have the right to demand it of others.
And you still did not get my point. How are you personally going to organize something like this? And if not you, then who? Do you see what I am saying?
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Independence meant feeding their families and not being a slave to the state.
Keeping your job means feeding your family and not being a slave to the state.
This is 1776, year 233.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Sapwolf:
But would it be abuse to demand that people pay their taxes? After all when it became apparent that Obama had people in his government that did not pay their taxes, the right did not give them an atta boy…no it was pointed out that not paying your taxes is really kind of a crime.
Some people are hesitant to break the law. Especially if they are being urged to do it by people they do not even know.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Howdy neighbor!
I know, OH and PA suffer the same syndrome. I am in NW PA. Love Cedar Point!!! :D
ProudPalinFan on March 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Rather than a tax boycott, boycott the people who contribute the most to these idiots. Buy non-union products. Don’t go to movies. Honda and Toyota are built right here in the USA with American labor. You have options. Use them.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I like that idea! We could set up stops along the way – meeting places to pick up more people.
We could have the I-70 route and the route from all parts north that come down and pick up I-70. Then we could have the southern-route folks.
We could put those little flags on our cars that you roll up in the window. You know what I mean…
Oink on March 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Hornet,
This is the link for the national tea party site.
Uh, if it works.
I’ve not tried to do links, I’m a computer novice.
Janna on March 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I know I’m not the only one getting tired of Allah’s relentless mocking of Beck… and I’m tempted not to feed it, but seeing as Allah clearly doesn’t watch his show and treats him the way the left who doesn’t watch Fox News treats the entire network, based on what they read on the internet, I have to say a couple of things.
Beck is 100% right when he answers people like you, Allah, by saying this isn’t some “populism” game he’s playing, he’s been saying the same things and issuing warnings for a couple of years… and guess what, now we’re seeing Beck’s long held nightmares occurring in Washington on a daily basis. You can put on blinders if you like. Ignore that we’re $80 trillion in debt and growing, and the party in power’s effort is to only make things work. That’s your right to do this.
But the next thing I’m wondering is about how detached you’ve become. You suggest “tax day”… Are you aware of the Tax Day Tea Parties? I can’t imagine you haven’t heard, because MM has brought a lot of attention to them, that they wouldn’t have otherwise had. Hell, I can’t even get on the website now:
http://taxdayteaparty.com/
But we’re talking about 300+ cities across the country (which likely includes all major cities where the turnouts will be in the thousands if not tens of thousands… who knows, maybe more in some places).
My point being that (mockingly) suggesting a march on DC only a couple of weeks away indicates your detachment from the conservative movement, because most of those willing to march on DC will be busy that day.
At any rate, there are DC marches I’m hearing buzzing about:
I’ve always felt that July 4th would be the perfect, symbolic day, but until this week I’d only heard about one on 9/11…
BUT I saw a sign in some video from the Orlando Tea Party the other day and there was a sign pushing for a march on July 4. Guess we’ll have to see how Tea Parties go, and move on from there.
RightWinged on March 27, 2009 at 11:24 PM
the country is in war, the economy is in shambles. the top economists of the country tell you that there’s no choice, taxes will have to go up. those who tell you otherwise are entertainers making big bucks because you treat them as leaders, and emasculated, sycophantic politicians beholden to them.
i see a moral obligation here to consider this as sacrifice. just look at the tax rates during world war II. you know how far we are from there? the taxes have been consistently been going down. at what point do they have to stop going down, or government cannot function? what if the desire to lower taxes for short-term political gain stifles economic growth in the long term, because there’s less investment in key areas like education and infrastructure? if the only way to reduce wasteful spending is to have no spending at all, which is preferable? whatever rush says, the answer is not always rigid ideology. even if you don’t agree with me, you have to accept that these are legitimate questions, not marxist fantasies.
sesquipedalian on March 27, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Saltysman:
The founding fathers did not rise up against the monarchy because they were starving. That was not what compelled them.
And no one is asking you to be a slave of the state. I don’t care if you pay your taxes or not. But I still do not know how you plan to see to it that tens of millions of people you do not know..don’t pay theirs. Especially when the government can just seize their property.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Well, crud.
How about this
officialtaxdayteaparty.com
the old-fashioned way.
Janna on March 27, 2009 at 11:25 PM
ses:
Actually Barack Obama promised that taxes would go down for 95% of us. Was he lying or just wrong?
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:25 PM
So giving the government less money over all while they are spending trillions more than ever before is patriotic?
In case you are a little slow, I will explain. Every single time taxes have been cut in this country, the government has actually received more money because more people use that extra money to buy stuff, which in turn allows the government to collect more tax dollars from companies and they don’t even have to raise taxes on those evil corporations.
Also ever since these ridiculous spending bills have been talked about there have been people crunching the numbers and they’re are multiple sources out there that have said that the government could confiscate 100% of income from every single person that makes $500,000 a year or more and there still wouldn’t be enough money for all of the crap the left wants to put us on the hook for. With the ridiculous budget and the talk of another spending bill, I wouldn’t be surprised if that number drops to $100,000 or even $75,000.
MobileVideoEngineer on March 27, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Bingo, tonight’s winner.
Thanks Badmojo.
One Tarleton-type event by Obama’s brown shirts or other government agency and it’s on. From there the fire can’t be put out.
Sapwolf on March 27, 2009 at 11:26 PM
How about “QuitSpendingMyMoney” ?
That’s what my sign will say – QUIT SPENDING MY MONEY!
Oink on March 27, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Terrye, I think the problem is that you don’t differentiate between what is a constitutionally legal tax and a government sponsored redistribution of wealth. Nowhere in the constitution does it give the federal government the right to take money from my labors and give it to someone else to make up for their lack of labors. Taxes are collected to pay for the business of the nation as a whole, common defense, infrastructure where needed, and I’ll even allow for a level of social safety net as in disability. The government should not be in the business of collecting massive taxes on the producers of the nation in order to buy the votes of the non-producers.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 11:28 PM
No, I wouldn’t go to DC. Why? I won’t show up because I am a law-abiding citizen and am not able to carry a firearm for personal protection there. However, Texas has a reciprocity agreement with Arizona and New Mexico recognizes Arizona CCW holders. I could do Texas.
I think there could be a better showing if we all met at our own instate capitol and get our local elected thieves on the stick and start asserting 10th Amendment rights.
Arizona has a tea party on Apr 15th on the capitol steps. I will be present.
One thing I won’t be doing … mailing tea bags. Cute, but they aren’t taxing my tea … Want to get their attention … mail them a recently spent case. Remind them that though it had a part, taxing tea did not start the last revolution. The Intolerable Acts and then attempting to disarm the citizens did.
No, it’s not illegal to mail a spent piece of brass.
AZ_Redneck on March 27, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Sapwolf:
I am not so sure about that. And I don’t think it will happen like that anyway.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Are you guys having trouble finding this site or something?
http://taxdayteaparty.com
RightWinged on March 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Thanks Janna, yeah, I’m gonna rustle up a few people and see what they are doing on Tax Day…..
HornetSting on March 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM
“Nowhere in the constitution does it give the federal government the right to take money from my labors and give it to someone else to make up for their lack of labors.”
The constitution gives the federal government the right to tax however the House of Representatives decides to. If the House votes to tax people with yellow shirts and give money to people with green shirts, so be it.
The federal government has the right to tax. The House is responsible for ratifying tax measures. What they tax, and who they tax and for what reasons are not in the constitution. The option we have is to change the people who make up the House.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Will you please stop with the “demanding it” and the “because you say so’s”?
Do you need to make things up?
I said “sign a petition and pledge”. That’s a far
cry from your accusations of coercion.
Of course I get your point. I don’t know how to organize it. “It” was not the point. “It” was simply a suggestion and not the be all and end all of ideas. Simply a suggestion to illustrate the need for an ACT that has the same type of impact as the original tea party.
I’m all for protesting. Hell, if you read my posts to Katy, you know that I’ve participated quite a few times, myself. I’ve helped to organize some. I’m just jumping up and down over here trying to point out that THAT IS NOT ENOUGH!
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:32 PM
BadMojo:
I think the problem is that you think I am arguing whether or not the government should be doing something or whatever.
You can argue till the cows come home about the right of the Obama administration to tax you or whatever, but the IRS can and will seize your property all constitutional arguments aside.
My larger point is that you have no control over what your fellow Americans do and do not do…so arguing over whether or not they will or should pay their taxes is moot.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:33 PM
terrye … let it go. 50% of the population is below the median intelligence level but everyone thinks they are to the right of that center line.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Haven’t had time to read the entire thread, but I will be at the Chicago Tea Party on April 15th. And supposedly the National Tea Party is set for July 4th.
Tax Day Tea Party Link.
Be there or be square.
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Finally. I was beginning to think that I was shouting into the void.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Hornet, New Mexico is having tea parties 4/15 in Farmington, Hobbs, Albuquer uh etc.
Las Cruces and Santa Fe.
My sign in Oklahoma will say
Your Mortgage is not My Problem.
Janna on March 27, 2009 at 11:35 PM
5280 feet/mile divided by 4 foot armspan = 1320 people per mile
Los Angeles to Washington DC = 2671 miles
1320 x 2671 = 3, 525, 720 people needed to form a chain across USA
Media would have to notice.
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definitely make a statement
would require vast organization
AND the chain would probably be two people thick in the heartland
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we need a creative statement like this……everyone think..!!!
1 trillion pennies is still too much….10 billion dollars
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what kind of statement can we make that the MSM would have to notice
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Truly support the TEA Parties !!!!!!!
scruplesrx on March 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Saltysman:
Fine, send out petitions or whatever. Tell people that going to Tea parties and talking to their Congressmen and women is not enough. Tell them that exercising their right to vote is not enough. Tell them that unless they look at this situation as a threat to their freedom as real and present as the threat posed by the British in 1776, then they are wasting their time. Their tea parties are not going to do jack. Go ahead.
Of course I would have to quit my job to stop the IRS from just taking the money out of my check. But what the hell.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM
And crosspatch is here to sort us all out.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM
They could and they may, but it will not be seized by IRS agents in pressed suits I promise.
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM
if you say so, Saltysam.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM
So you admit to being below average?
BadMojo on March 27, 2009 at 11:41 PM
People need to feel like they have some control over what is happening. They need to express their dissatisfaction with the present state of affairs. The point to the Tea Parties is to give them a way to do that. It is a good thing for that reason alone.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM
There you go again…
making it sound like I said something that I didn’t in order to demean what I really said.
…and you get angry with the mainstream media.
*rolls eyes*
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:43 PM
crosspatch:
Well, I am stubborn and singleminded, but it is late and I have had enough.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I’m late to the party as usual, but I’m with you 100% so you’re not preaching on deaf ears. I was thinking about this last night when trying to get to sleep.
The revolution has started.
Good evening BadMojo!
Knucklehead on March 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM
It is! I agree!
And I’ve never said that it wasn’t.
Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM
If the US Government wants to pass a tax on blue paint, they can. he House of Representatives is YOUR voice in the government. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it “illegal” or “unconstitutional”. The constitution gives the federal government the right to levy taxes. The House must approve those tax levies. THAT is your say so. If the house votes to redistribute the wealth, than that is the will of the people. ALL taxes are basically a redistrubution of wealth.
What you need to do is concentrate on something that can actually make a difference … like changing your member of Congress … and concentrate on less silly rhetoric like “redistribution of wealth is unconstitutional”.
We have basically given the federal government the right to collect taxes at the point of a gun. If you don’t believe me, don’t pay them. Eventually the guy with the gun will show up. Whether you like it or not.
Change does not come from the top. A President can not make a law. If you want change, you need to change Congress because only Congress has the power to tax and it is the House that has the final say.
crosspatch on March 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Saltysman:
Once again, I don’t know what you are talking about. It seems to me that you are picking a fight for no good reason.
Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM
AP – I have never seen someone so out of touch (and so cocky about it) with not only with their own reality but their cultural environment and the pulse of the Nation.
As much time as you spend blogging and watching the news cycle one would think you have a clue or one creative idea.
You are truly the most dunder-headed fool I’ve ever witnessed and I’ve met so many.
Don’t hide behind me when the sh!t falls apart you pinko.
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amend2 on March 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM
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