New drama: McCain staffers angry at Palin for saying she didn’t want to pray with them

posted at 5:58 pm on March 26, 2009 by Allahpundit

She said she meant no disrespect by it, but it’s hard to see how: “So I’m looking around for somebody to pray with, I just need maybe a little help, maybe a little extra… And the McCain campaign, love ‘em, you know, they’re a lot of people around me, but nobody I could find that I wanted to hold hands with and pray.” She ended up praying with Piper. Maybe she meant there was no one there with whom she felt close enough to share a moment like that?

Anyway, I’m sure it’s all their fault for feeling insulted.

“We all talked this A.M.,” said one former Palin aide in an e-mail. “This set off a nerve for sure with a lot of people.”

“It’s yet another example of the few staff still loyal to Palin questioning their loyalty and ardent defense of her over the several months since the campaign,” said the aide, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly about campaign colleagues…

“It’s about us people who were on the plane, who showed extreme loyalty to Palin, continually getting thrown under the bus or slapped in the face by her comments, whether she means it or not,” the staffer said, adding that Palin’s remarks “cause you to question not only your loyalty but her judgment as a leader.”

The former aides said they place part of the blame for Palin’s post-campaign candor on the governor’s staff in Alaska. Several have reached out individually to offer advice or assistance to the governor, but “have gotten only pleasantries in response,” said one aide.

No way to tell, obviously, whether the source here is a true Palin loyalist like Randy Scheunemann describing sincerely how his feelings are hurt or an (allegedly) false loyalist like Nicolle Wallace seizing the opportunity to throw a few rotten eggs back the ‘Cuda’s way. Exit question: Did she ever single out Scheuenemann or any other former aide by name for praise to distinguish them from the people who were sniping at her after the election? Maybe this is a case of some loyalists thinking she doesn’t appreciate them when she really does.

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“Both returns name Todd Palin as proprietor and the couple’s Wasilla home as a main office. On her public financial disclosure form, Palin describes the business as a sole proprietorship owned by her husband,”

Hmmm. I thought they ran the business together. Not really sure why that’s such a big issue.

What do you think about having a tax cheat as the head of the IRS? I’m assuming you have absolutely no problems with THAT.

ErinF on March 27, 2009 at 2:05 AM

Ahh… I see. They wanted obama to win and America to lose. Since both happened, you’d think they would have very little to squawk about.

ErinF on March 27, 2009 at 1:43 AM

ROFLMAO! I did not want the neo-marxist to win that does not mean I am going to vote for economic illiterates like McCain and Palin. Romney, Rudy, Fred or Paul I would have voted for. So I had no choice and voted Libertarian. I sleep great at night and will do it again if another economic illiterate is nominated. If you don’t think third party votes matter go check out Indiana’s 2008 election results.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Poptech’s Google is larger than his brain, I believe.

Give it a rest and stop acting like an infant. You are only acting to steel other people’s resolve because our attitude and tone immediately moves them into a defensive posture.

But I suppose you’d have to actually understand being a human or human behavior for that matter. People who act this infantile rarely do though.

Trust me, it isn’t just the Palin supporters here than think you are a troll of the worse sort. Posting your entire Word document full of negative Sarah Palin facts in seperate posts, on every thread is tiresome, lazy and just… well.. annoying.

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 2:10 AM

So even Dick Morris is a fan. Sarah is getting quite a following of prominent supporters there.

sarahpalinfan99 on March 27, 2009 at 1:49 AM

Awesome endorsement, the guy who worked for Clinton endorse Palin! ROFLMAO! How dumb are Palintologists? We may never know. Nobody can make me laugh like a Palintologist.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:12 AM

Should have been ‘your attitude”.

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 2:12 AM

ROFLMAO! I did not want the neo-marxist to win

Really? You didn’t want the neomarxist to win, and yet it looks like you enjoy defending his positions on a regular basis.

ErinF on March 27, 2009 at 2:12 AM

Palin Praying

I’ll pass on the hand holding.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM

yet it looks like you enjoy defending his positions on a regular basis.

ErinF on March 27, 2009 at 2:12 AM

OMG, Name ONE position of his I defended. This should be fun. How dumb are Palintologists? We may never know.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:14 AM

Awesome endorsement, the guy who worked for Clinton endorse Palin! ROFLMAO! How dumb are Palintologists? We may never know. Nobody can make me laugh like a Palintologist.

Wow, poptart, your Palin obsession is pretty strange. Your fear is very evident.

ErinF on March 27, 2009 at 2:15 AM

Posting your entire Word document…

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 2:10 AM

What is with the “Word Document”? Are all Palintologists computer illiterate? You could use any number of offline and online programs or sites to compile information.

You don’t even need Word and haven’t for years, you can download OpenOffice for free. That is irrelevant as I can do everything online.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:18 AM

Awesome endorsement, the guy who worked for Clinton endorse Palin! ROFLMAO! How dumb are Palintologists? We may never know. Nobody can make me laugh like a Palintologist.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:12 AM

Dick Morris is now a staunch conservative and a highly respected political pundit and influential mover and shaker. I thought you would know that. I guess you just are not that informed about the world of politics which would explain your posts.

sarahpalinfan99 on March 27, 2009 at 2:18 AM

ErinF on March 27, 2009 at 2:15 AM

Name ONE position of his I defended.

What? Nothing…. Just like i thought. So much for the myth that everyone who does not support Sarah Palin is really a liberal Democrat who voted for Obama. (gasp..shock..horror)

I love reading the comments where people go off insulting Obama as if I care. LMAO.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Palin Praying

I’ll pass on the hand holding.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM

If we are going to overlook Mitt’s religion, then perhaps we shouldn’t be quick to denounce Palin’s religious beliefs as irrational; however, maybe you weren’t…

If we are going to take into account how a potential leader’s religion may say something about his/her abilities/knowledge/wisdom/&c, then it is all fair game.

Upstater85 on March 27, 2009 at 2:22 AM

His obsession is apparent, his sanity is questionable, but fear, no you’ve got to be sane to be afraid. I think he firmly believes in his unnatural obsession with Palin.

Somehow Palin fulfills an obviously uncontrollable need for Poptech to feel superior by posting facts, then typing acronyms in every post like an infantile teenager texting their bestest friend when someone disagrees with he/she/it posted.

I personally don’t like Palin, but I don’t turn it into some kind of obsession and develop an superiority complex against people that don’t.

That kind of behavior is for children.

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Dick Morris is now a staunch conservative and a highly respected political pundit and influential mover and shaker.

sarahpalinfan99 on March 27, 2009 at 2:18 AM

Oh I have complete trust in someone who worked side by side with Clinton for YEARS.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Oh I have complete trust in someone who worked side by side with Clinton for YEARS.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:23 AM

You forgot to mention the reason he had a “fallout” with the Clintons …

I like Goldberg’s position: “I do not trust Dick Morris. Period.”

Upstater85 on March 27, 2009 at 2:25 AM

You knew exactly what I meant by referencing a Word Document, but your rabid knee-jerk reaction and immediately calling me your little pet-name (which you think is so clever… though who’s laughing except for you I wonder) shows that you don’t really read anything that people post, if you had you would see that I’m not a Palin supporter, I just think you act like an infant and are a troll.

Calling a Senior Systems Analyst of ten years computer illiterate is rich… suggesting that fact because I referenced one of the most popular text editing programs used is even funnier.

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 2:28 AM

It says go into a private spot and say a prayer. Heck, just find a corner, bow your head and utter a prayer in your mind.

The Wall on March 26, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Do you lie every second of the day? Your initial argument was that it is unscriptural for two or more Christians to pray together. You said Sarah Palin was wrong to want to pray with another Christian before last October’s vice presidential debate. You said,

I believe the scriptures say that when you pray you should: “enter in thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to the Father which is in secret; and the Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly”. Notice that it doesnt say to find somebody to hold hands with if you can find somebody that you are comfortable with and who doesnt bother you too much.

The Wall on March 26, 2009 at 9:17 PM

As I, and cs89 told you earlier, there are examples in the Bible where people are praying together. For instance the apostle Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns together:

“And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.” Acts 16:25

Like I said dude….even YOU…YOU..a Lucifer worshipper knows how weak that was.

Please, stop wasting my time with your stupid messages.

apacalyps on March 27, 2009 at 2:36 AM

hey poptech, what is wrong with having a strong personal faith in Jesus Christ?? I can say for myself and many other Christians here that we wont just pray with anyone. You have to have a close connection to someone to share an intimate moment like that.

ousoonerfan15 on March 27, 2009 at 2:48 AM

You knew exactly what I meant by referencing a Word Document,

Calling a Senior Systems Analyst of ten years computer illiterate is rich… suggesting that fact because I referenced one of the most popular text editing programs used is even funnier.

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 2:28 AM

No I do not know what you meant. I don’t use Word nor would I waste time using a word processing program to store information requiring me to be on only one computer when I could use online applications and easily access them from anywhere.

You are a senior systems analyst? Um… yeah.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:54 AM

Prayer is a very personal thing and when judgement of your prayers or non prayers appears it makes the judges look disgusting in my eyes.

mixplix on March 27, 2009 at 3:05 AM

You really have missed the point, but that isn’t surprising considering that every single post I’ve read by you lacks any real thought process other than hitting copy/paste.

Classic redirection of the argument away from the actual issue, which is that you are a troll that apparently keeps your little treasure trove of facts at the ready, ready to re-post them in every single thread that contains a hint of Sarah Palin.

I can only imagine that I hit home with my criticisms of your behavior, since you have become derailed by such a distraction. Denial isn’t becoming.

Yes, I am. I have programmed in VB.NET, C#, Java, SQL for the last ten years at a company that recovers millions of dollars for companies on a yearly basis… so yeah….that is a little deeper than using a web browser,Google, or whatever electronic media you choose.

You act like a petulant child, you wear your precious facts like you think it is some kind of invincible armor that allows you to say or do whatever you please, in what every manner you please without retribution or derision.

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 3:14 AM

Yes, I am. I have programmed in VB.NET, C#, Java, SQL for the last ten years at a company that recovers millions of dollars for companies on a yearly basis… so yeah….

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 3:14 AM

That is nice, who uses C Sharp? You use Word too I take it. That reminds me whatever happened to the Cisco Router Guy? He was like Haxors on the routing tables.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 3:28 AM

Twinkle Toes … LOL are you argueing again? Don’t you have a “Business” to run? LOL Fabio Tech, might wanna get some sleep!

upinak on March 27, 2009 at 3:29 AM

Don’t you have a “Business” to run?

upinak on March 27, 2009 at 3:29 AM

It is effectively automated by computer.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 3:48 AM

Looks like “Poptech” has a full time job here.

PaddyJ on March 27, 2009 at 4:44 AM

Why would anyone care what a mccain staffer, and that’s what they were, has to say about Palin? Let’s not forget that these are the ones that sent her to be ambushed by couric and gibson. Most of them probably voted for barry anyway. Let them get pissed off and go join the democrat party, they will cause less damage.

peacenprosperity on March 27, 2009 at 4:59 AM

I will pray with groups, but I do not like to hold hands.

gooddad on March 27, 2009 at 5:34 AM

No I do not know what you meant. I don’t use Word nor would I waste time using a word processing program to store information requiring me to be on only one computer when I could use online applications and easily access them from anywhere.

You are a senior systems analyst? Um… yeah.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 2:54 AM

Hmm, it seems you do not understand the concept of flash drives or portable systems like laptops or handhelds. Using Word format also does not prevent you from using online applications. There are some of those that can understand Word documents. Google Docs comes to mind immediately.

You can have a slap-fest with the folks here all you want over technology. But I fail to see where you are proving any sort of technical superiority. Any person that understands IT and systems design knows there are always a dozen answers to any given problem. Just because you favor a specific tool set does not mean that you do not have drawbacks with your approach.

You may not realize it, but your arguments look to me more like the position of a tech zealot than a true technologist.

Hawthorne on March 27, 2009 at 5:37 AM

Looks like “Poptech” has a full time job here.

PaddyJ on March 27, 2009 at 4:44 AM

Nah, He has to keep his day job at the Pizza Pit.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 5:50 AM

I am bored with the whole argument about who is the leader of the Republicans.

Let’s face facts here. There isn’t one. Not the kind that we really need anyway.

We need a leader with the intellect, charisma, demeanor, and eloquence to smack down the competition. They should not be a “politician” that says what they feel needs to be said to win. They need to be a leader, that brings people around to their way of thinking. They need to be able to make people understand that liberalism is the wrong road and that conservatism is not evil or mean. They need to be able to teach without boring people or insulting people.

That person does not exist in our current stable.

Hawthorne on March 27, 2009 at 5:56 AM

Hawthorne on March 27, 2009 at 5:56 AM

All wrong. What is needed to bring in the “middle” is simply someone interesting in a non-scary way. Look at the last 8 elections. When Republicans ran a milquetoast against an interesting candidate, they lost, when they ran a milquetoast against a milquetoast, they won, when they ran an interesting candidate (have to go back to 1980 for that) they won. Heck, even when the people actively disliked the incumbent, they went to the interesting Perot before pulling the lever for the milquetoast Dole. You want to gain the “middle” vote? Forget policy, except to make sure it is non-scary, and make the candidate interesting. That is the only way to attract the “uncommitted” vote.

Anyone care to name a Presidential race where I am wrong? I’m sure there’s got to be one, but damned if I can find it.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 6:18 AM

Random:

Dole was not a milquetoast. He is a brave man who fought with courage in a war where real courage was needed. It seems to me that we have lost the meaning of milquetoast. The same is true with the Bushes. These men were strong in their character. Bush’s father was shot out of a plane. But today to too many courage means shooting your mouth off on the radio or yelling or screaming or attracting attention to yourself by being outrageous in some way.

I was raised by that greatest generation and I was taught that character was saying what you mean and meaning what you say. It was persistance and integrity. I think the larger problem is today we penalize people for having this qualities. They are considered milquetoasts.

Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM

Hawthorne:

I saw an interesting post over at the Anchoress about Mike Rowe, the man who does dirty jobs. She made the point that he would be a good man to have in politics, and she added that he would probably be torn to shreds if he did enter politics.

Maybe we don’t have a leader because we are too busy fighting our little wars. Everybody has their favorite and they make it their job to tear down the other guy’s favorite. No one person is going to please all these people until they let it happen. I don’t think Reagan could do it today, not the real Reagan. The make believe one people have invented since his death maybe, but not the real one.

Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 7:04 AM

Memo to McCain staffers and Palin staffers: cease fire. This kind of article does not do the Republican Party any good.

Phil Byler on March 27, 2009 at 7:09 AM

Phil:

Very true. I am not sure why Allah feels the need to always run with this stuff anyway. Half of it is nonsense.

Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 7:12 AM

I just wrote about this on Newsbusters. I am not a Palin fan. I voted for McCain/Palin. Palin was chosen I believe because she was a woman, and was inexperienced. Her inexperience was used to show how much less experience Obama had, and what a poor President he would be(Obama is proving this correct)She was/is a glorified hockey mom who had some political success, but as Governor, was much more preferential to a Senator(do nothing blowhard)who was in a National position for only 143 days before announcing his candidacy for a job way over his pay grade.

Then there’s the religious element. I was raised according to what Christ said in one of the Gospels,i.e. “one should pray behind a locked door, so no one could see their devotion to God. When fasting, don’t wear a miserable face, bringing attention to your suffering rather than showing deference to God.” This is where Evangelicals have it all wrong. They use God as if he were a sports team,”He’s my God and he beats your God.” As Christ said, “Let them know you by your works.” Telling people you’re a Christian is pretty much beside the point. Like Hitler, when interviewed, said he was a nice, gentle man. Telling someone something is not as valuable as showing them through your works. Your works should speak for themselves. This is why people who have little or no faith find Evangelicals and their ilk to be hypocritical buffoons. I believe wearing your religion on your sleeve is a worse sin than having no faith at all. As far as Palin needing to pray with someone-ridiculous. Evangelicals constantly use the phrase “personal relationship with Jesus”. If it’s personal, why do they need to make a circus out of faith?

adamsmith on March 27, 2009 at 7:32 AM

Good to see Palin ripping into the McCain staff. They did it to her – now they can sit back and reap the benefits of a pissed off Saracuda.

I’ll keep screaming this – Palin is ONLY relevant as long as she does two things – keeps up her ratings with Conservatives (done) AND … demonstrates an ability to bring in CASH for the Cause.

I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY NUMBERS ON HER SARAHPAC – however, with the escalating attacks on this woman and increased interest in her – I’m inclined to think her PAC is earning a WAR BUCKET of cash.

WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS?? I’ve looked everywhere. Where are the hotshot HOTAIR bloggers? Get us numbers on earnings!

In fact – a good story would be to compare ALL of the major conservative pacs and see who’s hauling in the most money. That will tell you who will really be players in 2012.

HondaV65 on March 27, 2009 at 7:32 AM

Terrye on March 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM

I know all about Dole’s qualities as a heroic and truly great man. It doesn’t change the fact that he was dull on the campaign trail and entirely uninteresting to the “non-political”. Same with the Bushes. To the average eggplant-head in the street, they were all wonky-dull. I’m not talking ideology, I’m talking packaging. Ideology will get you through the primary, but to get the votes of the drooling, dont-give-a-whoop “middle” you need to be interesting.

Given a choice, dull-right will beat dull-left and interesting-right will beat interesting-left, but dull will always lose to interesting, no matter what. Sometimes just the change in deology alone is enough to push things over, but only when the interesting factor is a wash.
It ain’t pretty, but it’s the way things are.

Life sucks, but we all get over it somehow.

Doesn’t mean I have to like it, though.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 7:35 AM

Oh, I see. Not praying with someone is a big sin. But aborting a baby is not. Thanks for clearing that up for me, McCain libs.

bloggless on March 27, 2009 at 7:38 AM

You can’t tell me that these very same staffers are enamored of Meghan McCain, but they would never, ever admit it. But Governor Palin is a nice, easy target for these losers, who could not even get John McCain elected. I’m thinking SCAPEGOAT.

bloggless on March 27, 2009 at 7:39 AM

Crap, I wake up and find this!?!?!?!!

But, but but….Meghan started it! Then that Carl, malicious Fox vulture thew her under the bus!

Why oh why did JTP wanted to leave McCain behind? Because of stuff like this? Children’s nagging gossip?

Go to Alaska, get in her face and then come back and complain, OK?

ProudPalinFan on March 27, 2009 at 7:40 AM

PPF: I’m willing to bet it’s worse. I think some hack sent a Dowdified quote to some bitter ex-staffer of McCain’s just to get this reaction.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on March 27, 2009 at 7:47 AM

Wow, what a huge crisis.

Dave Rywall on March 27, 2009 at 7:48 AM

McCain staffers pissy at Palin and sticking knives in her? Wow! Never would have expected that.

aikidoka on March 27, 2009 at 7:54 AM

She ought to do some praying with Bristol the unwed mother. You need prayers after being raised by that idiot woman.

Amen!

capitulus on March 27, 2009 at 7:56 AM

That pathetic statement spells out everything anyone needs to know about you. You can’t let go of the tech issue because it’s a useful distraction from your realization that everything you post here is annoying, both to people that support Palin and people who don’t.

Now, I’m off to a real job where yes, we actually develop code in C#, and use *gasp* Microsoft Office!!! What a radical and foreign concept.

I’m almost moved to use an all caps emote.

Almost…

ManInBlack on March 27, 2009 at 8:19 AM

now they can sit back and reap the benefits of a pissed off Saracuda.

HondaV65 on March 27, 2009 at 7:32 AM

Oooooh Nooooo!!!!

Mean Girl (Salon)

I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY NUMBERS ON HER SARAHPAC – I’m inclined to think her PAC is earning a WAR BUCKET of cash.

HondaV65 on March 27, 2009 at 7:32 AM

OMG you have no idea I just sent Woooohooo (gasps and faints) $0.50 OMG (collapses) Next month I am going to send…… a $1 (orgasmic shock)

SaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahPAC! You Betcha (Wink) (Fist Pumping) (Lusty Drool) Wink.

War Bucket indeed! The Cuda Soldiers are ready for Battle! Hail the glorious leader!

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM

Hey guys the corservative REV-O-LUTION has begun send your nickles and dimes to the Cuda Baby!!! Pennies too (wink)

I am SOOO Pumped, I heard Sarah Talk and was like OMG she is like the greatest and well yeah Obama is the anti-christ and well SARAH is going to do it! I mean she prays like you know, me. She is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Pro-LIFE. The babies, yeah….. OMG I just cannot take it. I opened up a new browser just to keep SARAHPAC.com open ALL day. This browser is now dedicated 24/7 to SARAHCUDA, OMG. Anytime I buy a six-pack I give my change to SARAH, you should too. Yes we can! I am going to cry, we need teh Sarah.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Breaking News
Hot Air comment records smashed due to more engaging postings and Poptech talking to himself but mostly Poptech talking to himself.

But I have to agree that Palin aint all that and furthermore
There is no repub or demo capable of leading this country because they are POLITICIANS, not leaders.
Their #1 concern is how to get money from your pocket to theirs and their friends.

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Hey guys the corservative REV-O-LUTION has begun send your nickles and dimes to the Cuda Baby!!! Pennies too (wink)

I am SOOO Pumped, I heard Sarah Talk and was like OMG she is like the greatest and well yeah Obama is the anti-christ and well SARAH is going to do it! I mean she prays like you know, me. She is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Pro-LIFE. The babies, yeah….. OMG I just cannot take it. I opened up a new browser just to keep SARAHPAC.com open ALL day. This browser is now dedicated 24/7 to SARAHCUDA, OMG. Anytime I buy a six-pack I give my change to SARAH, you should too. Yes we can! I am going to cry, we need teh Sarah.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Easy man, your head is going to explode and you won’t be able to spew anymore of this drivel.

rplat on March 27, 2009 at 8:50 AM

Poptech on March 26, 2009 at 7:08 PM

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Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Over 12 straight hours of Palin hate there Poptech, that is some serious emotional obsession you have. I recommend you seek professional counseling soon. Or does this mean that there is more than one puppetmaster pulling those strings?

canditaylor68 on March 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM

wow, weak post, even by Cattiepundit’s standards.
meow

james23 on March 27, 2009 at 8:58 AM

This thrown your own under the bus to increase site traffic approach will never work. Also, allowing trolls to run rampant creating a Jerry Springer type of environment will only alienate conservative readers and chip away at the credibility of people who run this site. May as well take the high road and cut your losses than turn this site into a full blown circus that mocks its party more than it promotes.

Christina_M on March 27, 2009 at 9:04 AM

May as well take the high road and cut your losses than turn this site into a full blown circus that mocks its party more than it promotes.

Christina_M on March 27, 2009 at 9:04 AM

So Palin is the party now? The collective has spoken, no other candidates exist but the right wing ONE.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM

There are about five people that I work with who claim to be evangelical Christians, but only one who I would want to pray with in a time of crisis.
Here’s the problem with American Christianity: While there are multitudes of wonderful Christians here, there are millions of what the Bible calls “tares” (wheat-lookalike weeds growing among the wheat). It’s easy to say you believe in Jesus here, and many mean-spirited or foul-mouthed or perverted people do say so.
For the purest Christianity, look in places where the Church is persecuted.

jgapinoy on March 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Five Minute Analysis
Poptech:
Sex: Female
Age: 19> 22<
Edu: Liberal Arts Major
Inc: From Parents
Away from home first time
Scared to go outside
No romantic interested parties
Poor diet
Poor hygine
Glasses that don’t fit properly
Weight issues
under/over medicated

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM

OMG you have no idea I just sent Woooohooo (gasps and faints) $0.50 OMG (collapses) Next month I am going to send…… a $1 (orgasmic shock)

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM

Obama’s campaign was made off small donations – so I can understand your extreme fear of her if she managed to duplicate his success in internet fund raising. Thanks for a purely trollish post (and I see you have several) – they’re so insightful and contribute so much to the convo we’re having this morning. Glad you take time away from eating your breakfast cereal in your mom’s basement to share this with us. :)

HondaV65 on March 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM

jgapinoy on March 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Look for quiet, generous people who seem contented all the time.

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Don’t you have a “Business” to run?

upinak on March 27, 2009 at 3:29 AM

It is effectively automated by computer.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 3:48 AM

Har! Poppy is one of those mega-spammers who blasts your email like he blasts Palin threads. AP, isn’t the spam blocker on your server working?

littleguy on March 27, 2009 at 9:19 AM

capitulus on March 27, 2009 at 7:56 AM

You’re just bitter because some Alaskan shot the wolves that raised you.

littleguy on March 27, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Poptech on March 26, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Over 12 straight hours of Palin hate there Poptech, that is some serious emotional obsession you have. I recommend you seek professional counseling soon. Or does this mean that there is more than one puppetmaster pulling those strings?

canditaylor68 on March 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM

14 hrs and still tweeking.

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Methamphetamine causes psychotic episodes and hallucinations, and P-tech is proof positive.

thomasaur on March 27, 2009 at 9:32 AM

littleguy on March 27, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Heh! I’m stealing that one!

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Was she speaking of a moment or a plurality. I could say damn I didn’t have someone to pray with and not mean anything bad about anyone else in the group.

tomas on March 27, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Do the condemned ever pray with their executioners. I didn’t think so.

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Heh.

It’s amazing how quick an honest remark from an outside-the-beltway-politician generates the same exact talking points to the fax machines of both parties.

It use to be the politics stopped at the water’s edge, but I guess it stops a the city limits.

Saltysam on March 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Do the condemned ever pray with their executioners. I didn’t think so.

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Yes. In some cases

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Yes. In some cases

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:36 AM

No. Sarah Palin looked around her and all she saw was a group of people who were trying to squelch her beliefs and convictions to make them fit under McCain’s wimpy campaign umbrella. Why would she pray with those people? It was better to pray with an 8 year old whose convictions were stronger than the adults around her.

And the only times I know of when the condemned “prayed” with their executioners, it was led by the executioner and the condemned had no say in the matter.

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Do i hear ferral cats howling and crying in the background MREOOOOOOOOWOOOWOOW

The ‘pubs’ should stop their backbiting and petty crap soon and start thinking about the 2010 election.

Alaska would vote for Palin as senator or congressman in New York minute. Groom Palin for 2014, it may take that long

Burgher on March 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Can anyone imagine the grief she would have been given, if she did pray with those people? The media tried to burn her at the stake as a witch, just because some evangelic preacher got a little carried away on a video.

Besides…… there are some people you pray with and others you pray for.

joedoe on March 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

So in all the history of lawful execution, condemned and executioner have never regretted the situation and both prayed for forgiveness together?
You’re a moron. Go away. This an adult discussion.

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Go Sarah Go!!!!!!!!

joedoe on March 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM

In Palin’s situation she chose not to cast her pearls before swine

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Hey Beto,

Take your pomposity and your palpable lack of knowledge and cram it up your weasley ass. You know nothing and spew that nothingness at will. Bite me, buttlick!!

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Who was Al Gores’ running mate and why the hell didn’t we talk about him for 4 years after 2000? Sarah is great has her opponents scared to death and they treat her like a super star. Always trying to get unflattering photos, news, gossip etc., even go after her kids. I love her and say——-GO SARAH IN 2012

Herb on March 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM

In Palin’s situation she chose not to cast her pearls before swine

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Which is exactly what I was saying, but you can’t seem to see that for the crap you believe to be knowledge on your face. Arrogant POS!

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Clearly, the divide in this country is still widening. I believe the notoriety of a simple, off-hand remark like this is attributable to the theme concocted by the left to discredit Republicans, in general, and Palin in particular. That being, religious extremist, anti-intellectual, corrupt and immoral. Oops, forgot racist and homophobe. The fact that former McCain staffers are useful in selling the theme is not surprising, given their participation in trashing Palin in the closing days of their failed campaign. I pray that someone is keeping a bozos-list of all the bums from the McCain staff that should never work in Republican politics again.

littleguy on March 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM

(sniff) so offended…(sob)
Not by a foul mouthed knuckledragger

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:58 AM

(sniff) so offended…(sob)
Not by a foul mouthed knuckledragger

Beto Ochoa on March 27, 2009 at 9:58 AM

This “knuckledragger” has more sense, education and more class than you could ever muster, so where does that leave you? Go back to your medicianl cannabis and your jack-off magazines. Time’s ticking on.

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM

They freakin lost! Seriously WAKE UP!!! This fantasy land of Palin helped McCain? What? Lose? ROFLMAO!

Poptech on March 26, 2009 at 11:46 PM

I’ll say it again, and give you this clue, oh-so-not-glorious-couch-potato. In MY district, when people were absolutely disgusted by the selection of McAmnesty, when word got out about Palin via her speech at the Republican National Convention there was finally an upwelling of republican voters. Without that McAmnesty would have cost my district dearly. With the addition of Palin we kept all of our local officials, added 2 new members to the state house, and would have done much better without conservative bashing McCain.

I know these facts because I Was There! What did you do that put yourself in the thick of the last election battle? Tell your friends how horrible Palin was? If so then please stop helping us. We already have the illiterate liberal media to contend with, thank-you-very-much!

Back to the topic, perhaps Sarah still doesn’t know who amongst the McCant staff was knifing her in the back Poptech style. In her place I would have done exactly the same thing.

Palin 2012!

DannoJyd on March 27, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Maybe Sarah should pray more often with her kids instead of finding grownups to pray with in the McCain camp. Instead of praying for help against Biden (because we all know God is a republican, baptist white american) maybe she should ask for help in becoming a better mother to her children.

Monkei on March 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Monkei on March 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

You’re either basing your assertion that she’s not a fit mother on the fact that her teenage daughter got pregnant out of wedlock, or you’re saying she’s unfit because she works outside the home. Which is it?

Unless you have some deeper knowledge of her personal life, those are your two options. If it’s the second one, then you’re living in the 19th century and are a male chauvinist. If it’s the first one, many parents face that sort of problem and meet it much less grace than Sarah Palin did.

AubieJon on March 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM

You know what is galling to both Democrats and RINO’s; in spite of the MSM onslaught to force McCain to invoke the Eagleton option before Sarah’s convention speech and the nasty rumors circulated about Trig and Bristol, Sarah gave the greatest convention speech by a member of a GOP ticket since Reagan’s 1980 speech.

And despite mocking and ridiculing Sarah as a result of the Gibson and Couric interviews, and perceived by many in need of a miracle, Sarah prays with Piper just before the debate and ends up beating Biden, a 35 year member of the Senate and a supposed expert in foreign relations.

And then after the election with McCain’s handlers dumping all over Sarah in a most unflattering manner and several journalistic narratives written or pundit narratives spoken that Sarah was a ‘drag on the ticket’ and now beyond rehabilitation in terms of media damage, a losing VP candidate who retreated back to Alaska and should never have been heard from again, and that is pursued in Alaska by Democratic and Leftist anklebiters constantly-like a phoenix re-emerges from the wilderness stronger and more prominent than ever, more flush with greenbacks that anyone could ever imagine, the belle of the ball in a terms of GOP popularity and the keynoter at the Congressional leadership dinner in June, usually reserved for the GOP’s most prominent ‘leader’.

Do you believe in miracles? If you do, you are in the process of witnessing one.

technopeasant on March 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Anyway, I’m sure it’s all their fault for feeling insulted.

There’s the passive aggressive Allah we’ve all come to know and sometimes love!

t.ferg on March 27, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Monkei on March 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

By your logic if a child of yours crosses the street and gets run over by a car, the mother has been negligent in teaching her child the danger of traffic; if a teenager watches pornography on his home computer, his mother is guilty of not watching him in the wee hours of the morning, if a son or daughter goes to a party and gets stoned, the mother should have warned her son or daughter about the dangers of drugs, and if a teenage girl gets pregnant it is somehow the mother’s fault that the her daughter and a boy full of sexual, uninhited passion decide to copulate.

If that is what you are saying there are probably over 50m American mothers you could also blame for their children going astray.

I guess you have never heard of something called free will. That’s right your a Marxist or a Fascist and the only will you subscribe to is the will of the collective or the will of a Messaianic figure. Free choice is a foreign idea or unworthy of your considerration as a superior person.

technopeasant on March 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM

She’s given plenty of post-campaign compliments, stayed out of the news even when some of these “aides” were bashing her publicly.

Frankly, who watches a state GOP fundraiser? I think it’s hilarious that’s what is being followed.

AnninCA on March 27, 2009 at 10:29 AM

6 days later after a local speech the MSM focuses on a 10 second clip by a state governor who has not been active in national politics for 4 months.

Could it have anything to do with her Presidential running mate giving her most of the credit for the almost 60m votes that he amassed and that the MSM had to go into damage control mode to protect its template of Sarah Palin being ‘a drag on the ticket’ and ‘damaged goods’?

technopeasant on March 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM

…because we all know God is a republican, baptist white american.

Monkei on March 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Har! That being opposed to your god — the one whose kingdom lies in DC. All hail Lord Obama!!! Lord of clueless hate-mongers!!

littleguy on March 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM

http://www.conservatives4palin.com is now showing Sarah’s entire convention speech with the opportunity to provide comments to it, especially as it relates to Obama’s current agenda and his plan for massive deficits and spending programs.

technopeasant on March 27, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Allahpundit must be so proud of how this thread turned out. Pretty soon, he won’t be able to tell the difference between the posters on this site and the ones that he used to make fun of — just remember AP, that followers are a reflection of leadership, or in this case lack thereof.

This truly is pathetic. I honestly believed HotAir was a cut above for a long time, but continued threads like this one proves that we all devolve to the lowest common denominator.

Way to go, AP!!

haikusrock on March 27, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Oh, my goodness.
On topic: I’m sure that being stabbed in the back repeatedly by staffers engenders a real desire to open up her heart to them while she prays.

And I’m just as sure that someone with a heart for prayer would NOT find offense at Palin’s remarks, but rather would seek forgiveness for not being apparently available for someone who was supposed to be in their care.

And now I’m really perplexed about all the comments about a loving act being so vile about it and to each other.

Oh, well. Another day, another dingleberry.

Tennman on March 27, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Again the lefties are mad that Sarah called upon God to help her to vanquish Biden and that mere mortal Biden was not able to overcome Sarah’s ‘godly’ advantage and heavenly-inspired performance.

Do you really want to know why the Left appears to hate Christians? It’s not so much they hate Christians; it’s the fear that Christians through the GOP will discover or rediscover the power of God and use it for their maximum benefit to neutralize the hold the earthly Messiah has on his flock, take the Socialist’s power away from them and relegate them to sidelines for an extended period of time.

technopeasant on March 27, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah!!!!!!

Time to make another donation to SarahPAC

joedoe on March 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Poptech on March 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM

Just getting back to you…you stated in another post that computers confuse people who support Palin…which is funny coming from someone posting on a site that has so many supporters…shows how you comprehend.
Poptech, all kidding aside, I was serious about you taking some time off and seeing a professional.
You seem to be overly obsessed with Sarah Palin, starker style.
Most stalkers never see them as that, they either think that the person they are stalking would “fall in love with them”, or they think who they are stalking are a huge threat and needs to be “exposed” and “contained”.
You fall into the latter category, and I really fear for your mental health.
I know you don’t see yourself as a stalker, just like alcoholics never see themselves as that either, but please listen, you are not well…you are obsessed…she is just a Gov. in Alaska…she won’t harm you.
If I had your real name, I would ask for some help for you…I hope your family, if you have any or you are in contact with them, will assist you.
Please take care of yourself, there are people who care about you…

right2bright on March 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM

I believe wearing your religion on your sleeve is a worse sin than having no faith at all.

adamsmith on March 27, 2009 at 7:32 AM

What do you mean?

As far as Palin needing to pray with someone-ridiculous.

Read again. She wanted to say a prayer with somebody before her debate with Biden, she didn’t need to. That was a big night, y’know. There was a lot riding on that debate. Lot’s of pressure. Remember? Now, I’m not one myself who goes around asking people to pray with me. Most of my prayer time is by myself or at church, but I see no problem with another Christian coming up to me and asking if I could say a prayer with them. It is clearly shown in the Bible to happen, people often prayed with each other singing hymns to the Lord. You said you were raised according to Christ (whatever that means). You miss that part of the Bible?

Evangelicals constantly use the phrase “personal relationship with Jesus”. If it’s personal, why do they need to make a circus out of faith?

There are a lot of slimy evangelicals on TV hurting the cause of Christ. Christians should be giving to the community, not taking from it.

apacalyps on March 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I used to think that even though he wasn’t a fan, AP posted a lot of threads about Palin because she has a significant number of supporters here at HA. Of course the end result that those threads generated a lot of hits for the site was also a plus.

However his continued tolerance of the obsessive Palin bashing trolls makes me think that he enjoys what they say and how they debase any Palin thread with their childish drivel. They say what he can’t. IMO the Palin hate of some of the posters here has become worse than the BDS. Makes me wonder if this is still supposed to be sort of a conservative site.

katiejane on March 27, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Is Allahpundit a Democrat running a sock puppet? It’s the only reason I can come up with that he’s pumping Palin and hoping the GOP is stuck with her. Palin is the Republican version of Maxine Waters… some people love her too.

popularpeoplesfront on March 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Palin is the Republican version of Maxine Waters… some people love her too.

popularpeoplesfront on March 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I am always interested in what creates this kind of hyperbole…please give me a link where she makes comparison statements like Waters…
Maxine gins up racial divide, whose husband has sat on boards that have taken gov. money…accused business men of purposely stealing, and so much more.
I will be waiting for your similar links to Gov. Palin’s actions.
Let’s see if your facts match up to your post…

right2bright on March 27, 2009 at 12:22 PM

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