GIVE … until it’s mandatory?
posted at 11:38 am on March 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I’ve received a lot of e-mail over the GIVE Act, the new $6 billion boondoggle for voluntary national service. It’s a bad plan, with its five-year cost projection looking like a very odd idea in a time when Capitol Hill has screeched over $165 million in contractual compensation for people doing actual jobs. The boss rightly attacks GIVE for the bad and bipartisan idea that it actually is:
Maybe it’s just me, but I find federal legislation titled “The GIVE Act” and “The SERVE Act” downright creepy. Even more troubling: The $6 billion price tag on these bipartisan bills to expand government-funded national service efforts. Volunteerism is a wonderful thing, which is why millions of Americans do it every day without a cent of taxpayer money. But the volunteerism packages on the Hill are less about promoting effective charity than about creating make-work, permanent bureaucracies, and left-wing slush funds.
The House passed the “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act” – or the GIVE Act – last week. The Senate took up the companion “SERVE Act” Tuesday afternoon. According to a Congressional Budget Office analysis of the Senate bill, S. 277, the bill would cost “$418 million in 2010 and about $5.7 billion over the 2010-2014 period.” And like most federal programs, these would be sure to grow over time. The bills reauthorize the Clinton-era Americorps boondoggle program and an older law, the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973.
The programs have already been allocated $1.1 billion for fiscal 2009, including $200 million from the porkulus package signed into law last month. In addition to recruiting up to 250,000 enrollees in AmeriCorps, the GIVE/SERVE bills would create new little armies of government volunteers, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps, Veterans Service Corps, and and expanded National Civilian Community Corps for disaster relief and energy conservation. And that’s not all.
Michelle goes on to list some of the notable recipients of these funds. Be sure to read the entire column.
But the tenor of the email on this has not focused on the waste of money GIVE represents in a time when federal revenues will fall dramatically from their Bush-era highs, thanks to the flopping economy. People attack GIVE as compulsory national service, which it isn’t. Gateway Pundit has been calling it the “Hitler Youth Act”, which is unfair and historically inaccurate. GIVE funds voluntary organizations and does not create a compulsory cult-of-personality organization.
It does, however, contemplate mandatory national service, commissioning a study to determine:
(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
Again, in fairness, this is neither new nor particular to Democrats. Misguided politicians from both parties have argued for some sort of national service that would encompass a military draft and options for civilian service as substitutes for it. Most of these came shortly after the end of the draft in the early 1970s.
Lately, though, the idea seems to come more from Democrats, who used to oppose the notion of compulsory service on grounds of individual liberty. Barack Obama talked about a “civilian national security force” during the campaign, but retreated when he received criticism for it. Variations of this idea have floated around for months, including the creation of an infrastructure labor force that would displace businesses in public-works projects and so on.
It’s a bad idea. The GIVE Act is a bad idea on other grounds, too. Republicans have an opportunity to stand for individual liberty and the limitation of government control over the lives of young people across the nation by opposing GIVE’s new study and all talk of compulsory service. Ask college-age students how they feel about taking two years out of their post-educational lives to dig ditches and build bridges not because they want to do it, but because it will become illegal to refuse. I suspect they will start Google-mapping the best routes to Canada — or stop voting for the people proposing to enslave them.
Update: Moe Lane tackles an aspect of the emails I neglected, that of the GIVE Act’s limitations on political and religious activity while in volunteer service. Again, if the service is voluntary, then that’s less of a problem for me than if it’s mandatory. I do agree with Moe that whoever wrote GIVE doesn’t trust college students very much.










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Why is it called voluntary when taxpayers are forced to pay for it?
JohnJ on March 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM
GIVE until it hurts.
RobCon on March 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM
My wife is from Russia, maybe I should recount her years of “mandatory service” during summer in the russian potato fields as a child.
lorien1973 on March 25, 2009 at 11:41 AM
It’s voluntary in the sense that it’s like a red light or paying your taxes.
As long as you comply, no one puts a gun to your head.
lorien1973 on March 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM
But you can tell the kids, ” On the bright side, you’ll get a brand new brown shirt and a spiffy looking black beret.
Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.
God protect us all.
kingsjester on March 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Bwahahahahahah!! Good one, Ed. I needed that.
Grafted on March 25, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Ah, this is obviously some new use of the word “voluntary” of which I was not previously aware.
JohnJ on March 25, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Old:
New:
jgapinoy on March 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM
The term is actually “voluntary compliance”
lorien1973 on March 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM
This word you use, “voluntary”, I do not think it means what you seem to think it means.
JohnJ on March 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Not a word about this while Congress screamed its head off about AIG bonuses.
WTF?
Where’s the list of the vote in the House?
BuckeyeSam on March 25, 2009 at 11:46 AM
My kids are going nowhere.
The GOP better get their acts together and take back congress in 2010.
I believe Obama will be an easy one-timer POTUS.
Oink on March 25, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Yeah, because there’s nothing a bunch of 20-somethings in college love more than to be told that they have to give up their free time by law. Methinks so many would ignore it that it’d be made obsolete.
amerpundit on March 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM
You vill volunteeeeerrr…
AubieJon on March 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I have to disagree with this, Ed. You said it yourself, Obama wants to create the “civilian security force just as well funded and well manned as the armed forces.” This is how he backs into it, not by creating “Obama Youth,” but by co-opting this legislation, perhaps even going so far as to create an organization which can be funded through this.
crazy_legs on March 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM
My wife is a teacher and they had interns that were with Americorps. It was a joke. The interns were paid so little it wasn’t worth their while to volunteer. They’d have been better off just getting a real job and a student loan.
roux on March 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM
And yet His approval ratings are still in the 60s. I think the problem is that too many people don’t realize just how stupid and/or immoral large sections of America have become.
JohnJ on March 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM
On the bright side, since they won’t have time for a job – due to voluntary slavery – they’ll need that college loan bailout.
So it really works out fine. Just fine.
lorien1973 on March 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
This is just another social engineering project at the federal level. Until our society realizes that the BEST “charity” is a profitable business, spending will remain out of control.
WashJeff on March 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
evil. tyrannical. oppressive.
my one consolation is the thought of the look of dawning realization on some obama-supporting, corporate water- eschewing college kid’s face when he is conscripted to scrub the toilets at the local HUD office without compensation.
patriette on March 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
This is freaking creep….
Beyond creepy….
We have gone gone to the start of “Mandatory Volunteering”.
**Hears Sirens** Crap, we have now become… the Western Europeans!
upinak on March 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Teleprompter
Always
Knows
Everything
Shy Guy on March 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM
I wonder if being part of an ACORN rent a Mob counts as national service in these plans?
Dreadnought223 on March 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM
I’m actually missing Clinton. How is this possible?
carbon_footprint on March 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM
JohnJ on March 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM
If I’m not mistaken, Jimmy Carter had a 70% approval rating and he was a one term Prez.
jcheney on March 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM
This sounds like one of those really bad ideas that when put into practice turns into a really bad program which will then require really bad adjustments for years and years to come.
Let’s do it!
myrenovations on March 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM
I hate sounding like a broken record, but where is their Constitutional authority for this? Certainly the feds have the authority to make military service mandatory, but where is their authority for this crap? And don’t we already GIVE enough? Try adding up all of the taxes you pay sometime and then you will understand why its so hard to make ends meet.
Democrats are fond of saying the American people won’t mind paying a little more for this and a little more for that so Democrats can fund their contributor pay-back schemes. Don’t speak for me Democrats… trust me, I mind.
Maxx on March 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM
SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!
Would you like to kno more?
pseudonominus on March 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM
I’m actually missing Clinton. How is this possible?
carbon_footprint on March 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM
because you have a fraud for a president who just so happens to hate America. i’d hate America too if my mother was a w-ore and the true identity of my daddy had to be kept a secret.
Ghoul aid on March 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
As many Obama supporters on this site have said “who cares about the constitution”
lorien1973 on March 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
And another part of Jonah Goldberg’s book becomes eerily prescient. Instead of a draft to fight against a military enemy, we have a draft to provide the moral equivalent of war and continue our slide into fascism.
I kind of want to see what happens to the conscientious objectors… “I’m in jail because I didn’t want to work at a free day care for homeless people……”
JohnTant on March 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Yep, there’s that.
carbon_footprint on March 25, 2009 at 11:58 AM
FIFY
Snowed In on March 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM
I was P-0′ed that my Rep, Bill Shuster voted for this, I sent him a not too kind e-mail. Still waiting to hear back from him.
This is a bad idea and I sure don’t want my grandkids to have to do this. Why not let ACORN members do this “volunteering?” That’s one way they can earn those millions they have gotten from the taxpayers.
becki51758 on March 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
The idea stinks like every other idea being proposed by this gov-expansionist administration. Why? We don’t have the godD&#%n money for this crap.
RepubChica on March 25, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Well… they _did_ get Obama elected… :p
tigerinexile on March 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Brings to mind the link from another HA thread recently where Harry Reid was insisting to an incredulous interviewer that paying income tax is voluntary! These guys live in a parallel universe.
Christian Conservative on March 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Brings to mind the link from another HA thread recently where Harry Reid was insisting to an incredulous interviewer that paying income tax is voluntary! These guys live in a parallel universe.
Christian Conservative on March 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Sorry for picking yours at random, when this could apply to any number of others.
If this were going to be WORK — gut-busting, sweating, tedious WORK — then I’d agree with your premise; but suppose word gets out that it’s really two more years with minimal actual work, free room & board, some spending money, just a time to get high, hang out with and sleep around with the other “givers”, and mutually congratulate themselves on how they are ‘changing the world’ — I can see this being a bit hit with the young folks. And it’d be two more years of indoctrination into socialist viewpoints.
This is one of those situations where the devil is in the details — and it looks like the devil will be dictating the details. That spells trouble to me.
RegularJoe on March 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Just a note to everyone, especially the college students, that voted for Barack Obama: You were used. There is no hope and change. The only difference between him and other politicians is that he is more up front in his desire to remake this country into a European Socialist Nation. This proposed program is a propaganda front against freedom. How do you like him now?
kingsjester on March 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM
I can remember way back in my earlier years when volunteering was voluntary.
If you had a few things you no longer needed, you made sure that someone who did not have these things had a chance to obtain them. Or, you dropped a few extra dollars in the red kettle out front of Higbee’s or Dillard’s. Or, if you had the time, you went down to the local river bank or local park and pitched in with the Boy Scouts to get the trash picked up and made the place a little bit better for others. Maybe spent a few nights a month cooking and serving meals at the local Lutheran or Catholic services soup kitchen.
That was it. You volunteered. You did it because if you didn’t, who would?
You didn’t do it because you were going to get a nice fat paycheck, or get a massive tax reduction, or to get your college paid for. You did it because…well, that’s what people used to do…volunteer.
Now? Seems volunteerism is a major industry. Billions of dollars a year spent on voluntary programs…tax dollars mostly.
And those who want to really volunteer find they cannot, unless they accept a lot of pre-conditions. Want to work the local Lutheran soup kitchen? Have to be approved. And if the local Lutheran soup kitchen doesn’t hire the required number of Moslems, the ACLU will shut them down.
Want to support a Boy Scout Troop? Most cities no longer even list the Boy Scouts in their United Way campaigns…seems that the Boy Scouts are nothing but bigoted little Hitlers, if you believe the ACLU.
Compulsory volunteerism?
Ayn Rand said, “It negates man’s fundamental right – the right to life – and establishes the fundamental principle that a man’s life belongs to the state, and the state may claim it.”
If it is compulsory…it is not volunteerism. If it pays a regular salary or an hourly wage…it is a job…a job.
coldwarrior on March 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM
But hyper-PC Canada will probably round them up and send them back here to the United Socialist States of America.
whitetop on March 25, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Doesn’t manditory voluntarism violate the 13th ammendment?
Isn’t that government-speak for SLAVERY?
kurtzz3 on March 25, 2009 at 12:09 PM
I really really need to invest in brown shirts and hobnailed boots.
Bishop on March 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM
And, learn the words to “Die Fahne hoch” (“The flag on high”)
coldwarrior on March 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
We’ve been “giving” for eighty years now, and it hasn’t solved poverty, provided a livable pension, or given us medical care with reasonable costs.
Dana Gould, one of my favorite comedians, put it brilliantly: “The conservative says ‘I’ve got mine, you get yours and f%$@ off!’, while the liberal says ‘That person’s in trouble, he needs help! Let’s give him some of YOUR money!’.
Is it crap, or chocolate-covered crap?
TheMightyMonarch on March 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Well if you’re going to cut the charitable donation in income taxes, the “charity” has to come from somewhere.
Transformative presidency indeed. Transforming the US into a fascist state, where we are all dependent on Uncle
SamObama.rbj on March 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Those volunteering will be required to voluntarily give up their voting rights.
AubieJon on March 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Given the context I posted, it is voluntary. Voluntary compliance.
Reid was correct in what he said; he just couldn’t articulate it very well.
lorien1973 on March 25, 2009 at 12:15 PM
For people like Harry Reid, paying taxes IS voluntary. Like Leona Helmsley except harder on the eyes.
TheMightyMonarch on March 25, 2009 at 12:17 PM
This is nothing more than a ploy to politically indoctrinate our youth and it reeks of pre war Germany . . . don’t fall for it, don’t accept it and don’t participate.
rplat on March 25, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Is the term Orwell used “Newspeak”?
petunia on March 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
My son is two years away from college and he is FURIOUS about this. He has already written an essay in his honors social studies class about it. He has done volunteer work through our church since he was 10 years old, and gives free guitar lessons to kids in our local homeless shelter. He does not need or want to be shoved into a government-run “volunteer” program and told what services he should be providing. We have made plans for his college education and will not barter it for his “services” as an Obama Youth.
He will be elgible to vote in 2012. I don’t have to tell you who he will NOT vote for. Nor will any of his friends, or their parents.
rockmom on March 25, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Dittos.
petefrt on March 25, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Kalapana on March 25, 2009 at 12:25 PM
To be followed by “Arbeit Macht Frei.”
rockmom on March 25, 2009 at 12:26 PM
My husband was a VISTA volunteer after he graduated college. This pretty much describes his experience. Smoked some dope, banged some chicks, got paid 500 bucks a month, went to some cool conferences. One time in two years he actually worked helping to pick up after a bad tornado. The rest of the time he wrote a couple of grant applications and sat around shooting the shit with other community organizer types.
rockmom on March 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM
At least the Cap Troopers didn’t have to worry about some limp-d*cked reporter calling them ‘baby killers’ if they got home in one piece. In the world of Starship Troopers, I think anyone who published such a thing would be arrested and used as live bug bait.
Dark-Star on March 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Good government is about making tough choices, and absolutely nothing else.
If Congress ever passed a “Happiness and Sunshine for Everyone All The Time ACT,” I wouldn’t necessarily complain about it. But I’d definitely support a program of mass political assassinations.
logis on March 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM
This can’t possibly really happen here. NO EFFEN WAY.
LODGE4 on March 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Don’t ever say that. Not about this, not about anything.
Dark-Star on March 25, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Fascist state, indeed.
The problem is, the Republicans don’t have their act together. A bunch of them voted for this.
Alana on March 25, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
But, then again…what does Obama need with some crappy Constitution?
ZJPolitical on March 25, 2009 at 12:51 PM
For all who think Orwell makes for some scary reading right now — how ’bout a little Lewis?
If you haven’t read this, you really should. Really.
RegularJoe on March 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM
If they won’t pay back their student loans, it sounds like a FINE idea to me.
Besides, if they weren’t built for college-age hippie trash, then who ARE those FEMA forced labor camps for?
/sarcasm off
My collie says:
CyberCipher on March 25, 2009 at 12:55 PM
If this ‘change’ is initiated we can give up all ‘hope’ of being a free nation. [What hopenchange is all about.]
docdave on March 25, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Daniel Hannan to his British Prime Minister
Daniel Hannan MEP: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government in Britain.
Conservative legislators in America can quote Hannan to Obama as pathologically unable to accept responsibility with his penchant to blame someone else, anyone else but himself for his own faults and his own spending and taxing to coerce our nation into bankruptcy.
Hannan bewails the British 10% deficit; whereas Obama places the USA above a 12% deficit, twice over Cuba’s domestic misery. No wonder Gordon Brown was brown-nosing Obama while being stiffed without proper diplomatic protocol as our most valued ally. He was urging Obama to overextend the USA economy worse than Britain’s deficit so as to be superior in his own mind to his British constituents. “Carrying on wantonly, willingly driving us into bankruptcy!”
They know, we know, and they know that we know that Obama is the devalued President of a rapidly devalued global power nation.
maverick muse on March 25, 2009 at 12:59 PM
So a bunch of bureaucrats will sit around and think: “Gee, should we expand our bureaucracy justify, more tax increase and our own increased salaries by putting unpaid kids to work on things we would have had to pay for?
“What’s the downside?”
Socratease on March 25, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Consider well that when citizens graduate there will be no other jobs available, and they will be competing for the ditch digging job with illegal aliens. Follow Obama over the cliff because he ordered you to jump. Or impeach him before he drives you into extinction. Wake up and smell the burning flesh.
maverick muse on March 25, 2009 at 1:04 PM
So when do we get the hip-hop remake of the Horst Wessel?
/sarc.
darclon on March 25, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Hey Ed, I think this section
comes from H.R.1444 Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act not HR1388 Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act.
Of course I could of missed the reference in HR1388.
ltcatack on March 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM
I’m thinking that Czechoslovakia is sounding like a great place to live. Having suffered under the tyranny of Soviet-styled master planning, they appreciate the blessings of liberty.
Buy Danish on March 25, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Yeah, like the Crips and Bloods and MS-13….
I’m sure they’ll dig the neat-o, cool uniforms too.
tru2tx on March 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM
These Statist thugs should just research the methods of the Nazis and the Communists – both of which were well versed in mandatory service to the State. These people WILL co-opt the children, as did the Nazis and the Communists. Their target is the children. The Nazis had their Hitler Youth. The Communists had their Little Octobrists and their Young Pioneers. America will have her brainwashed youth, too. Ready to serve the State. Ready to inform on their parents. Ready to submit, for the good of the State.
If these people are not stopped, we will live under the same totalitarianism that many of our fathers fought to stop.
I’m only glad that my father isn’t around to see that his efforts were in vain – and that his country would collapse into totalitarianism.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Nail, head, sledgehammer.
It’ll be awful hard to refuse what’s being GIVEn to you when the alternative is being a bum.
Dark-Star on March 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM
P.S. The day will come when the mandatory service to the State will include the rounding up of people who do not desire to serve the State, who speak out against the State, and it will include the confiscation of guns from their homes. The State abhors dissent. The State abhors an armed People.
After all, to serve the State means to follow orders. And follow orders they will.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM
I will be damned if my children are forced to do this.
ChuckTX on March 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM
I’ll see you and raise you – I think I am missing Carter, now.
Vashta.Nerada on March 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Amendment Thirteen, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America reads as follows:
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
alexraye on March 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Doesn’t the 13th Amendment ban involutary servitude?
Lincoln freed the black slaves by the Emancipation Proclamation, and fought a war to enforce it. Now a black President wants to re-impose slavery.
Steve Z on March 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM
I’m sure Planned Parenthood would not be classified as political or religious, but pregnancy counseling centers that advocate keeping the baby would be labeled as such.
Y-not on March 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM
silly me…i forgot that Liberals dont care about what the Constitution says
“Its a living breathing document”
alexraye on March 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM
I think this is possibly a foot in the door to what Rahm Emanuel wrote about, and Obama said he wanted.
I guess we’ll see. They are all about incrementalism.
capitalist piglet on March 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I’m guessing there will be a reinactment of the Gunfight at the OK Corral here at my house.
Come’n get ‘em, boys.
tru2tx on March 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM
There is no such place. There is the Czech Republic, and there is Slovakia. They are… two WILD and CRAZY countries!!!
The Monster on March 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM
And this is a bad thing? Call me daft, but it could be a win-win situation for the good guys (that would be us). I’d be more than happy to see Canada flooded with moonbats.
Knucklehead on March 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Pardon me Sir, but I think it’s closer than many of you wish to admit. Playing word games with the language and twisting the meaning of words, (such as give), is a lunge toward the Big Brother style of progressive/socialist/Marxist thought that Liberals have longed for in this country for decades.
oldleprechaun on March 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Ed, you might want to take a look at the full-text version of the bill. The copy I downloaded the other night from the Thomas.gov site (where Congress archives its bills) outlines some pretty scary stuff in sections 155 through 158, setting up a heirarchy involved, separate facilities (which were originally to be called “Camps,” run by “Superintendents.” I’m sure we’re all greatly relieved to hear that those names have been changed in the final bill to “Campuses,” which are now to be run by “Campus Directors”), and compensation to the volunteers – the only item of which that is directly specified being “uniforms.” Which was changed from the original item of “clothing.” It’s still voluntary, sure, but it’s still pretty creepy stuff.
Blacksmith on March 25, 2009 at 1:59 PM
From AmericanThinker.com, as per Michelle’s site.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM
The adults are in charge now
getalife
Del Dolemonte on March 25, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Clinton would always look at the evidence before making a decision. Obama’s already read the liberal handbook, and his mind is made up, regardless of those pesky facts. That’s why he believes that borrowing and spendin is the best way to reduce deficits. Government efficiency and wisdom will save us!
Clinton’s failings were mostly personal ones. Obama’s failings are mostly ideological.
hawksruleva on March 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM
It’s not involuntary servitude – because Democrats say it’s voluntary.
Of course, they could drum up some sort of petty offense. “Failure to give proper respect to the central authority” or some such. That way they can say the service is punishment.
hawksruleva on March 25, 2009 at 2:41 PM
“It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.”
- Ayn Rand
Seven Seas on March 25, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Ghoul aid on March 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Right on!
calguyintexas on March 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Now a black nationalist Muslim President wants to re-impose slavery.
Steve Z on March 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM
FIFY!!!!
calguyintexas on March 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Permit me to paraphrase the president on this one: if it were truly “voluntary” these young adults would do it for free.
After all, that was exactly his reasoning for limiting the charitable deduction, right? Or is logical consistency now above his pay grade, too?
cackcon on March 25, 2009 at 3:39 PM
What about if we called it GISI, the Generational Invigorating Slavery and Indoctrination Act?
PrincipledPilgrim on March 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I’m volunteering for the local militia.
Chaz706 on March 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Even Gore is looking pretty good right now. And I want Daschle and Gephardt back!
neuquenguy on March 25, 2009 at 4:16 PM
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