What the heck does Treasury do?

posted at 9:12 am on March 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama hasn’t nominated 17 of 18 positions at Treasury needing Senate confirmation after more than two months on the job.  The Financial Stability Oversight Board (FINSOB) has yet to meet during his administration despite a legal requirement to do so on at least a monthly basis.  Politico now reports that President Obama’s vaunted Presidential Economic Recovery Advisory Board has yet to meet since its inception in early February:

Six weeks after President Barack Obama appointed a blue-ribbon panel to help him dig America out of its economic crisis, the board has yet to hold an official public meeting.

The White House initially said that the 16-member Presidential Economic Recovery Advisory Board, headed by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, would meet “every few weeks.” Last month, a spokesperson told POLITICO the group would meet monthly. And more recently, the White House said the high-powered board, set up to address what Obama has called the worst economic emergency since the Great Depression, would gather only about four times a year, with the next session due in “late spring.”

But comments from board members and Obama himself indicate that some members of the panel are meeting, in smaller gatherings that have not been announced or opened to the public. And that raises the question of whether an administration that prides itself on openness and transparency is in fact finding it more convenient to conduct public business in private.

Now, the administration finds itself in a Catch-22: It does not want to say that the president’s economic panel, announced amid much fanfare, is not meeting during the worst economic crisis in generations. But if it is meeting, where’s the announcement, the agenda, the minutes? In short, where’s the sunshine?

Josh Gerstein may have left one option out of this.  The Obama administration could be conducting its business in private, reneging yet again on its promise of openness and transparency in governance.  It could also not be governing at all.

As I wrote when discussing the lack of nominations flowing from the White House, staffing is one primary responsibility of any executive.  The focus of staffing demonstrates priorites.  Obama told 60 Minutes last night how much he needed to focus on the economy, but all of the staffing effort taking place has gone into other areas: Womens and Girls Council, an undersecretary in charge of culture, and so on. Without a properly staffed Treasury, Obama and the administration won’t get a handle on all the necessary data and have the required diversity of voices for the proper derivation of policies and solutions.

But even the few voices they have won’t matter if Obama doesn’t hold meetings with them.  Congress mandated the FINSOB meetings as a key part of oversight over the distribution of TARP funds, and the failure to hold those meetings and provide minutes keeps Congress and the American people in the dark.  The failure of this economic advisory panel to meet as promised doesn’t break laws but does show that the administration seems oddly detached from the crisis and unwilling to engage in public on it. And the poor performance on staffing Treasury makes it look as though Obama doesn’t have much focus on it at all.

If Obama doesn’t fill these positions and hold the necessary and legally required meetings, a more hostile Congress could start making the case for dereliction of duty.  Fortunately for Obama, he doesn’t have a hostile Congress, but if Democrats don’t start pushing him into action, he may face one in 2011.

Update: John at Verum Serum gets confirmation of sorts that FINSOB has held no meetings since January 15th.

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by 2011 he’ll have all the commisars at Treasury filled….

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Fortunately for Obama, he doesn’t have a hostile Congress, but if Democrats don’t start pushing him into action, he may face one in 2011.

That’s the only hope this country has…but I fear it will be too late to save the Republic.

ladyingray on March 23, 2009 at 9:15 AM

How many times did we have to hear about Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force meeting in private during the early days of the Bush Administration. And now we have this economic Star Chamber plotting the takeover of the entire economy meeting in private, and you hear not a peep.

gridlock2 on March 23, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Is anyone keeping an eye on Soros? Who’s he been meeting with?

ctmom on March 23, 2009 at 9:17 AM

It’s official. Obama is not even remotely interested in governing. It’s not good governance or bad governance. It’s no governance. Nada. He’s a community organizer who is good at sloganeering and throwing bombs and he’s doing just that. Governing consists of filling potholes like Gov.Palin said. He doesn’t want to stoop to that level. He’s just interested in using the biggest bully pulpit the world has to offer to lecture us into submission.

promachus on March 23, 2009 at 9:20 AM

With any kind of luck, there’ll be a massive voter revolt next year in the mid-terms.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Barack Obama hasn’t nominated 17 of 18 positions at Treasury needing Senate confirmation after more than two months on the job.

Don’t forget the 3 months he had during the transition to get this together.

But, he did manage to ram through the worst, most expensive bill in US history (so far), in a few days – without even letting anyone read it. There was quite a lot of Precedential giggling over that weekend, while he waited to sign the ‘catastrophe-stopping’, phenominally bad piece of legislation.

progressoverpeace on March 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Josh Gerstein may have left one option out of this. The Obama administration could be conducting its business in private, reneging yet again on its promise of openness and transparency in governance.

This is where my mind keeps going.

Candy Slice on March 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Without a properly staffed Treasury, Obama and the administration won’t get a handle on all the necessary data and have the required diversity of voices for the proper derivation of policies and solutions.

Good Lord, what HR department did that come from?

I can understand why Crab Pot was irritated this morning.

BigD on March 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

BigD on March 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

This isn’t the kind of “diversity” Ed’s talking about. With even much smaller, less complex problems, you don’t send one guy off to arrive at a solution. You put lots of people on it so that you can get a broad set of ideas.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Barack Obama hasn’t nominated 17 of 18 positions at Treasury needing Senate confirmation after more than two months on the job.

And Ed, as of 17 March, he still has no members on the President Intelligence Advisory Board .

BDU-33 on March 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

My feeling is he’s either doing it in private or not at all, either of which is unacceptable.

But does anyone really think congress or the media is going to hold him accountable?

I fear the damage this guy is doing to our country. Let’s just hope his teleprompters continue to fail, exposing what an empty suit he really is.

av8tr on March 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Intentional, malevolent incompetence.

rbj on March 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM

They are using the Clinton team.

Triple digit gains in the Dow today.

Economy saved.

Thank you President Obama.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Honestly, if Obama asked any of you to serve in his Treasury, would you? I sure as heck wouldn’t. Day by day, this administration its fiscal/economic competence to be lacking in trainwreck proportions. Talk about a career and reputation killer. The thing is, where are all his campaign “PLANS”? He went on and on about these “plans” to the point that he should have been able to start implementing them on Jan. 20.

@ Promachus, I couldn’t agree with your sentiment more.

tmq on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

the administration seems oddly detached from the crisis and unwilling to engage in public on it

Could that be because they don’t know what the hell it is they are doing?

Who is in this “administration”?

- Lawyer/Community Organizer/Social Climber
- Career gasbag Senator
- Campaign wonks who know nothing about anything else
- Left wing hacks
- Academics

What do all these people have in common?

They’ve never held actual jobs. They have never worked in the top levels of the private sector.

In short, these people don’t know what the hell it is they are doing. I don’t know why people continue to “hope” or to expect that they might.

NoDonkey on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

another boring, cookie cutter ed post.

not an obama fan, but in defense of him, he probably has hundreds of committees and focus groups and other buzzwords he has to attend to.

Xolom on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

BigD on March 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

This isn’t the kind of “diversity” Ed’s talking about. With even much smaller, less complex problems, you don’t send one guy off to arrive at a solution. You put lots of people on it so that you can get a broad set of ideas.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Really?? Wow, I never would have guessed if you hadn’t told me.

BigD on March 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Oh, they have plans in place. The vacancies in Treasury and missed meetings are integral parts of that plan. There is no other logical explaination.

marklmail on March 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The Treasury simply follows orders from the Federal Reserve. That’s why the Treasury Secretary is always someone that is deeply involved in the workings of the Fed and it’s subsidiary banks. Such as Paulson, Volcker, and now Geithner.

Also, we have an emerging carbon trading market and we will eventually have a global carbon tax that will be managed by the same banking monopoly that manages most of the worlds economy.

Check out this press release.
Rothschild Australia and E3 International to take the lead in the global carbon trading market

Terrible news. Wake up America! We are headed towards global governance.

True_King on March 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

He is too busy campaigning and giving interviews. Why should he worry about such trivial things as staffing? ahem

becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM

They are using the Clinton team.

Great, so we’re going to solve this mess through another dot com bubble and slick accounting tricks?

Because that’s all the Clinton team ever brought to the table.

Oh, besides the tax cuts the Republican Congress passed, along with the welfare to work program

So you’re for tax cuts and welfare to work?

NoDonkey on March 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Makes me think of all those episodes of 24 where a weak President was removed due to mental incompetence.

The Kafkaesque part is that it would be crazy Joe Biden trying to convince everyone HE was the sane one.

jeff_from_mpls on March 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

NoDonkey, they’ve never held actual jobs in the lowest/lower levels of the private sector either. There is no actual tangible work experience.

tmq on March 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

God bless President Obama for saving our economy.

Dow up 143.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

The failure of this economic advisory panel to meet as promised doesn’t break laws but does show that the administration seems oddly detached from the crisis and unwilling to engage in public on it. And the poor performance on staffing Treasury makes it look as though Obama doesn’t have much focus on it at all.

This is all intentional, Ed. He’s holding the banking crisis hostage in order to do all of the other cr#p, that will assure our destruction. There is no other way to read this.

progressoverpeace on March 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Is anyone keeping an eye on Soros? Who’s he been meeting with?

ctmom on March 23, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Very observant of you ctmom…

Keemo on March 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM

another boring, cookie cutter ed post.

not an obama (sic) fan, but in defense of him, he probably has hundreds of committees and focus groups and other buzzwords he has to attend to.

Xolom on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

I am so glad you pointed this out as I failed to see the humor.

Wade on March 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Who is in this “administration”?

NoDonkey on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Not to mention his shadow administration.

Obama’s tactic is to ignore the Constitutional offices or treat them as formalities, while he gathers unofficial Commissars around him, and it’s the Commissars who are calling the shots.

Don’t turn around.

jeff_from_mpls on March 23, 2009 at 9:37 AM

They are using the Clinton team.

Triple digit gains in the Dow today.

Economy saved.

Thank you President Obama.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

101 is a triple digit, he lost 122 on Friday….no wait Bush snuck back in….

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM

True-King: I don’t agree with all you write here, but global governance is a scary thought, indeed. and here, we are all just worried about Federal dominance in govt. but you are right, the big money rules the world. and since bambi is tanking our economy, it looks like we won’t be on the “ruling” side of it.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

oh and GetaClue….that’s the opening bell not the dinner bell.

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

you guys are smarter than this…

Obama simply makes the public pronouncements, the dutiful MSM reports it.

No follow up, no follow through, just more words from the telepromter in chief

gatorboy on March 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

let’s home GetaClue is right & bambi saves our economy. me thinks GetaClue doesn’t pay taxes.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 9:41 AM

3/23/09 Recession over.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Thanks for pointing that out to him. Let’s see how the DOW is after Timmah speaks and Obama speaks.

becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

getalife….Please do….

ODumma has saved nothing…

t on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

let’s home GetaClue is right & bambi saves our economy. me thinks GetaClue doesn’t pay taxes.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Massive government spending cannot end a recession unless there is investor confidence built by it….

GaL and Ogabe’s masturbatory drama on AIG kills confidence.

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

OT:

Brits to replace world’s blood supply using embryonic stem cells. No more blood donations?

faraway on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

In a way I guess this is kind of good news. I’d rather Obama screw around with brackets and late night talk shows than affairs of state.

patriette on March 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Xolom on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

The problem with what you’ve posted is that an actual leader – someone who has actually led…anything – sets up a committee, gives them a set of directions, and checks up on them, or has someone do it to be sure those directions are being followed. The fact that Obambi has made himself available for photo ops, Leno, and the Wednesday night smokers says that he isn’t doing much of anything besides being the narcissist that he is.

AubieJon on March 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Obama, the Special Olympics Commander in Chief.

Tzetzes on March 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

OT:

Brits to replace world’s blood supply using embryonic stem cells. No more blood donations?

faraway on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Jesus doesn’t like.

Xolom on March 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Brits to replace world’s blood supply using embryonic stem cells. No more blood donations?

faraway on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

embryonic stem cells lead to concer in tests….100% lethal cancers…

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

3/23/09 Recession over.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Now it’s clear get-a-spine is just goofing on us. Can you blame him? I think we’re looking at a traumatized, depressed, and disillusioned Obamaniac.

Maureen Dowd?

Peggy Noonan?

jeff_from_mpls on March 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM

I can’t believe they aren’t holding these meetings. I heard these kinds of meetings were a laugh riot. All kinds of joking and joshing around. Competitions to see who can come up with the funniest doomsday economic scenerio.

Gosh, who wouldn’t want to attend those meetings?

myrenovations on March 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Thanks for pointing that out to him. Let’s see how the DOW is after Timmah speaks and Obama speaks.

becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Agreed.

I’m seeing a repeat of the first big Geithner underwhelming announcement circa Feb. 10, when the DOW was seeing heavy gains on expectations of hearing specifics of Geithner’s plans after Obama puffed them up the day before then the bottom dropping out after he spoke and people realized there was nothing of substance there.

teke184 on March 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM

3/23/09 Recession over.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

And your conclusion is based on what?

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM

If we can just hold off the new “$1 trillion dollar economy-saving plan” that bambi & tiny tim unveil today until 4/15, then i don’t think it will pass.

protest on 4/15 or before or all the time! everyone should.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Don’t let it hijack another thread. Engaging it is like debating a looped meme generator.

mossberg500 on March 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM

embryonic stem cells lead to concer in tests….100% lethal cancers…

sven10077 on March 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

The Brits are doing something totally different. They are not injecting raw embryonic cells willy nilly and hoping the cells turn into something good.

They are creating blood cells in a test tube, then copying them by the billions. This will work.

faraway on March 23, 2009 at 9:49 AM

To hold meetings you’ve got to have a staff. What is the reason they haven’t filled the Treasury positions? Does he not expect Turbo Tax Tim to last?

kingsjester on March 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Don’t let it hijack another thread. Engaging it is like debating a looped meme generator.

mossberg500 on March 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Brilliantly stated; direct & to the point.

On with the conversation.

Keemo on March 23, 2009 at 9:51 AM

With any kind of luck, there’ll be a massive voter revolt next year in the mid-terms.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Such things don’t happen by luck. It takes work on all of our parts to accomplish it. Share news with your friends and co-workers. Ask questions. Write your legislator. Urge the GOP to run conservative candidates, and to replace misguided Washington fat cats.

hawksruleva on March 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM

What the heck does Treasury do?

I am delighted to see the government tie themselves up into knots in trying to ‘stimulate’ the economy. This is the way they normally work at anything they try to do (think of the Post Office as opposed to UPS). It would be terrible if Congress and the White House were actually efficient. They would destroy America in a few days.

However, the downside to their inept behavior is that all of the government’s stumbling, bumbling and retroactive rules have scared the Stock Market and Banks to death. Who in their right minds would want to get into bed with these clowns?

So not only are they tripping over their own big fat feet, but they have panicked the very people they are threatening to help. This new Soviet style 5 year plan from the new Ministry of the Treasury is not going to work.

Uniblogger on March 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Such things don’t happen by luck. It takes work on all of our parts to accomplish it. Share news with your friends and co-workers. Ask questions. Write your legislator. Urge the GOP to run conservative candidates, and to replace misguided Washington fat cats.

hawksruleva on March 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM

You’re right, of course. But with the MSM carrying the Dems’ water, we’ll still need a bit of luck.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:55 AM

But . . . but . . . but how can this be?

Didn’t Bambi tell us just a few weeks ago that he likes being President and that he’s “very good at it”?

AZCoyote on March 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM

This new Soviet style 5 year plan from the new Ministry of the Treasury Kommissariat of Finance is not going to work.

Uniblogger on March 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Fixed. Yeah, I have no idea if “Kommissariat” is even a real word, but I liked the sound of it.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Recession is over so lets turn our attention to the war.

“The new U.S. policy for Afghanistan to be unveiled soon will contain an exit strategy and include greater emphasis on economic development, President Barack Obama said.”

It will be over too.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Barack Obama hasn’t nominated 17 of 18 positions at Treasury needing Senate confirmation after more than two months on the job.

McCotter nailed it the other night. “No one in their right mind would want to work there.” Stone and a hard place. More damaged leadership cred if he offers jobs to people who turn him down, versus damaged leadership cred for not filling critical positions.

Welcome aboard TurboTimTitanic mate! How’s your backstroke?

swede7 on March 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM

another boring, cookie cutter ed post.

not an obama (sic) fan, but in defense of him, he probably has hundreds of committees and focus groups and other buzzwords he has to attend to.

Xolom on March 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

1) Obama doesn’t PERSONALLY have to attend all of those meetings.
2)it’s about priorities. If economy is job #1, then wouldn’t you expect him to spend more time on staffing and meetings for the economy? I mean, couldn’t he spend a Wednesday night going over Treasury nominations, instead of dancing? Or trade some town hall meetings with a meeting with his economic advisors? Or nominate a Treasury person instead of a minister of culture?

Obama pays lip service to to fixing the economy, but he really doesn’t seem to care any more about that than anything else. Kroft asked him about the economy, and Obama laughed and brought up Iraq. Uhhh – what about the economy?

hawksruleva on March 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM

You’re right, of course. But with the MSM carrying the Dems’ water, we’ll still need a bit of luck.

flipflop on March 23, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Agreed.

hawksruleva on March 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM

When is Obama scheduled for Oprah?

albill on March 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Dow up 216.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Recession is over so lets turn our attention to the war.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM

How are you even defining recession? And if you actually use the correct standard English language term, how/when will you answer this:

3/23/09 Recession over.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

And your conclusion is based on what?

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

3/23/09 Recession over.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Wow! That was easy! Thanks, President Obama. I guess we can all go back to improving our bowling averages now that you’ve miraculously solved the global economic meltdown brought on by the policies that you championed.

Getalife, I appreciate that you are a poorly-paid astroturfer recruited from your local college chapter of White Suburban Communist Kids for Consensus or some other such foolish organization, but please, take pride in your work. Why don’t you actually TRY to make your comments nuanced, interesting or thought-provoking. Engage in a debate of ideas. Challenge our policies. For the love of God, do something more than throw out the same old tired rah! rah! propaganda that is both meaningless and factually incorrect. Be a proud little soldier and at least pretend that you care enough about your job to be effective. At the very least, be funny. If we’re going to be stuck with each other, at least make it entertaining.

patriette on March 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Data trends going up.

Buy,buy,buy.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

I sure glad we dodged that Sarah Palin bullet!

jerryofva on March 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Everyday! EVERY STINKIN’ DAY it’s something else that proves this guy wasn’t fit to run a lemonade stand let alone the U.S.A.

My God, how did this guy fool so much of America and/or how did so much of America allow itself to get fooled?

Yakko77 on March 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

when do we get to read this new Treasury plan? look what happened when we didn’t read the Stimulus Bill? Since this administration is so non-capitalism, i would interested in seeing this big answer to our problems.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM

God bless President Obama for saving our economy.

Dow up 143.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

You’re kidding, right? Up 143 and the economy is saved? You do realize that the Dow is down thousands since this time last year, right?

Whatevs. If +143 makes your leg tingle, then go enjoy yourself for the few hours (or minutes) it lasts. The trillion dollars the Fed just quietly printed out of thin air and pumped into the banking system is about to cause hyperinflation like nobody’s business. The Dow is just one cog in an extremely complex economic machine that you clearly don’t understand. Unfortunately, neither does our President, who once said that he thought $10/gal for gas sounded great to him, and later followed up by saying how wise it would be to bankrupt the coal industry.

Seriously, enjoy the +143, getalife. It may be the last positive economic sign you see for a very, very, very long time.

aero on March 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Data trends going up.

Buy,buy,buy.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

In what way does an hour of one session make for a ‘trend’?

And how are you defining recession? I cannot believe anyone who uses the term in its correct economic usage could even say such nonsense…judging from one hour from a single session.

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Data trends going up.

Buy,buy,buy.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Personally I prefer Vegas. Better odds, a free room and some shows. End result the same. You lose, but with Vegas you can have some fun.

swede7 on March 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM

You’re letting the thread get hijacked!

Where are all those civic minded liberals who want to help olbameless staff the Treasury. Oh yeah, who wants to be a scapegoat for odummer—no one!

mossberg500 on March 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Wall Street is reacting positively to the last piece of the puzzle.

The dreaded toxic asset plan. This is great news, the banks will lend again and no more bailouts.

GM will probably go bankrupt and the too big to fail companies will be broken up to manage better.

Regulations will be installed by the Treasury because Congress can’t be trusted due to being bought and paid for by the bailed out institutions.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

when neil cavuto tells me the recession is over, then i’ll believe it.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Data trends going up.

Buy,buy,buy.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

You first, pal. Invest your own money in this market if you feel so confident.

And BTW, the end of a recession is not determined by a single day on the DOW. Read a book on economics sometime and you’ll understand this.

Doughboy on March 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Thanks in advance for answering the three questions I posed. Appreciate the courtesy for eventually getting around to them.

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 10:26 AM

The dreaded toxic asset plan. This is great news, the banks will lend again and no more bailouts.

getabrain
Since you can’t discuss the topic, I guess you’ll be in line to invest in all this worthless paper? Won’t be much of a line, champ, and this is the key to Turbo Tim’s plan.

Titanic stock available. Get in quick.

swede7 on March 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Shall I expect to see them sometime today?

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM

NoDonkey, they’ve never held actual jobs in the lowest/lower levels of the private sector either. There is no actual tangible work experience.

tmq on March 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

I’ve kind of noticed that.

You know, a guy who had an OK high school career at QB, do you think any NFL team would start him at QB?

Of course not.

But that’s what this country did.

We elected a guy who had a very mediocre political career (and that’s being generous) as President of the United States.

I guess we take sports more serious than we do politics.

NoDonkey on March 23, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Regulations will be installed by the Treasury because Congress can’t be trusted due to being bought and paid for by the bailed out institutions.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

LOL, so you advocate a non consitutional group, writing LAWS to govern and punish? Because thats what “regulaiton” is…

Might want to go read a bit of history, when an unelected group controls a country, its called an Oligarchy…

Romeo13 on March 23, 2009 at 10:32 AM

And if you listen to the President, he told you where to invest.

Alternative energy is the new bubble.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Shall I expect to see them sometime today?

anuts on March 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Don’t hold your breath. And don’t bother the poor boy with facts, his mind’s made up. Buy up those toxic assets getathot! Let me know how it goes.

swede7 on March 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM

The market burst up on existing home sales beating expectations, will it hold up? Still too early to tell. How do I know this? In the epistemological sense, I don’t. However, my opinion is certainly as valid as any other anonymous name posting here.

The market goes up and down–bear trends are interrupted by hard bullish rallies as shorts cover to send it down another leg. Of course the trolls will praise Teh One on the up days, while they stay oddly quiet during the breaks.

It’s a fool’s game to assign the vicissitudes of daily market action to the actions of any single actor. The trend is the name of the game.

Over time the trend will make clear the DL policies are not helping wealth creation. In the meantime, the wise poster will avoid feeding the trolls.

youngjim on March 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Im with you..Cavuto knows his economics. As does Stuart Varney.

becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM

You have to remember that the TOTUS is from Chicago. These 17 appointments are worth a lot. He is not just going to give them away for F$@k!ng nothing!

Laurence on March 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM

True-King: I don’t agree with all you write here, but global governance is a scary thought, indeed. and here, we are all just worried about Federal dominance in govt. but you are right, the big money rules the world. and since bambi is tanking our economy, it looks like we won’t be on the “ruling” side of it.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Thanks for your kind response. Kelley, believe me, I knew that if I started speaking out about what I’ve discovered I would be ridiculed and be called a fool on this site, I don’t like it but if I’m to speak about what’s going on it’s just the price that has to be paid.

I have only discovered and started to research all this stuff very seriously within the last 4 weeks or so, prior to that I was just a typical conservative that listened to Limbaugh and Levin and loved Sarah Palin. After my research much of that changed. I realized that there really are people behind the curtain, sort o speak, that move the direction of world policy, and most of them we don’t know.

I simply stumbled onto some info and then it all clicked for me. I then had to make the decision to keep it to myself or speak out against a horrible tyranny and be called a kook. Obviously I chose the latter. :) I’m now a proud kook. A former 2 time Bush supporter and hardcore supporter of the wars, that’s changed as well.

We have a choice of either confronting evil or just play the medias game of feigned outrage and political back and forth.

You have to look beyond the 2 parties, you have to be willing to see things without the prism of partisanship, it simply clouds the vision.

As a Christian, world government is a prophetical truth, I simply stumbled upon the mechanism that will coalesce the world into that order: Global finance that is controlled by a very few. Much like the Gospel is spread by individuals, so does the negative also have to be implemented by individuals. The New World Order doesn’t just happen with a snap of the fingers. It comes about through long term planning.

Check out this Club of Rome document, it’s from their website, on page 10 you will read about a document written in 1974 that states that the world needs to be organized into 10 major economic regions. Here it is. http://www.clubofrome.org/archive/publications/AURELIO_PECCEI_-_MASINI_LECTURE.pdf

I have to go to work now but I’ll see if i can dig up a copy of the original document.

World order is coming whether we want to or not, the question is whether our nation will participate or whether we are the deadly wound that is inflicted to the worldwide political beast.

God bless you all.

True_King on March 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM

I would bet some big money that they have Tom Daschle in there every day working on the big health care plan. They can’t do that in a public meeting or in any meeting that is subject to the Advisory Commissions Act. They probably have a lot of other leftwiong freakshow economists meeting regularly with the official White House staff. Christina Romer was just window dressing.

rockmom on March 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM

3/23/09 Recession over. DEPRESSION just begining

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

FIFY, BTW, getaclue already!

NY Conservative on March 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Dow up 265.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM

They probably have a lot of other leftwiong freakshow economists meeting regularly with the official White House staff. Christina Romer was just window dressing.

rockmom on March 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM

I sometimes wonder how Romer can possibly sleep at night.

myrenovations on March 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM

World markets surge on US bank assets plan
World markets surge on US plan to remove up to $1 trillion in bad assets from banks’ books

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/World-markets-surge-ahead-of-apf-14713644.html

You wanted him to fail.

You lose.

getalife on March 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM

there is a discussion over at Ace about whether the new “Plan” will actually fix anything. Does anyone know if the new Plan that calls liabilities assets will actually help?

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM

i don’t understand this. if we “remove” toxic assets, where do they go? doesn’t someone hold them? if the govt. holds 80% of them, doesn’t that devalue our currency or something? or create inflation?

and where does the govt. hold these assets? who would invest in that?

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:50 AM

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM

They said on Fox and Friends this morning that Paulsen found out the problem with toxic assets is the buyer does not want to pay what the seller is asking. There is too much resistance to the idea of buying toxic assets. That is why Paulsen backed off.

kingsjester on March 23, 2009 at 10:50 AM

please don’t tell me that yall left me alone on this thread with getalife.

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:51 AM

kelley in virginia on March 23, 2009 at 10:51 AM

No. sweetie. I’m here. I was just trying to not feed the Troll.

kingsjester on March 23, 2009 at 10:52 AM

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