Video: Barney Frank calls Justice Scalia a homophobe
posted at 5:55 pm on March 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The Hill had this moment in its Briefing Room over the weekend, but I didn’t hear about it until HA reader Danno sent us an e-mail. Maybe Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) doesn’t give a damn if people hear him call Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia a bigot, or maybe he thought no one outside of 365gay.com’s target audience would notice. The remark happens almost immediately:
Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) called Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia a “homophobe” Friday for opposing gay rights.
“I do think that this argument that it’s unconstitutional for the federal government to pick and choose which marriages it will recognize is a good one,” Frank said Friday in an interview with a gay news website, 365gay.com.
“At some point it’s going to have to go to the United States Supreme Court,” he continued. “I wouldn’t want it to go to the United States Supreme Court now because that homophobe Antonin Scalia has too many votes on this court.”
The Supreme Court has no basis for intervening in what is a policy dispute. The Constitution does not have any language that requires the federal government to recognize gay marriage, or to force states to do the same. Regardless of Scalia’s personal biases or lack thereof, the matter belongs to the states and to the legislative branch. If Barney Frank wants to overturn DOMA, let him introduce a bill to do so, and it will have the same shot that DOMA did of passage.
Pointing this out does not make someone a homophobe. Would such a bill pass? Probably not, because a large number of Frank’s Democratic colleagues would oppose the bill on two grounds: jurisdiction and tradition. Frank wants to let his colleagues off the hook — notice that he doesn’t refer to them as “homophobes”, even though they have a lot more to do with the current policy than Scalia — by pressuring the Supreme Court to act as a legislative body on policy rather than rule on the Constitutional application of law.
It’s a cheap shot, and one I’d like to say was beneath the dignity of a member of Congress, except we’re talking about Barney Frank here.
Update: Tommy Christopher has some background in response to the Fox News version of the story::
He went on to conclude that “the Texas statute undeniably seeks to further the belief of its citizens that certain forms of sexual behavior are immoral and unacceptable, the same interest furthered by criminal laws against fornication, bigamy, adultery, adult incest, bestiality and obscenity.”
While sodomy does include many activities favored by heterosexuals, I think we all know what they’re talking about. Frank seems to be on steady ground here.
Well, no, he’s not. In his dissent on that decision, Scalia (like Clarence Thomas) allowed that the law might or might not be stupid, but it wasn’t unconstitutional. The Court in Bowers refused to find a fundamental constitutional right to homosexual sodomy, and also refused to do so in Lawrence, but overturned the law anyway largely on the basis of their distaste for the Texas law. Scalia wrote:
Texas Penal Code Ann. §21.06(a) (2003) undoubtedly imposes constraints on liberty. So do laws prohibiting prostitution, recreational use of heroin, and, for that matter, working more than 60 hours per week in a bakery. But there is no right to “liberty” under the Due Process Clause, though today’s opinion repeatedly makes that claim. Ante, at 6 (“The liberty protected by the Constitution allows homosexual persons the right to make this choice”); ante, at 13 (“ ‘ These matters … are central to the liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment’ ”); ante, at 17 (“Their right to liberty under the Due Process Clause gives them the full right to engage in their conduct without intervention of the government”). The Fourteenth Amendment expressly allows States to deprive their citizens of “liberty,” so long as “due process of law” is provided:
And later he explains that the court overreached in Lawrence:
Let me be clear that I have nothing against homosexuals, or any other group, promoting their agenda through normal democratic means. Social perceptions of sexual and other morality change over time, and every group has the right to persuade its fellow citizens that its view of such matters is the best. That homosexuals have achieved some success in that enterprise is attested to by the fact that Texas is one of the few remaining States that criminalize private, consensual homosexual acts. But persuading one’s fellow citizens is one thing, and imposing one’s views in absence of democratic majority will is something else. I would no more require a State to criminalize homosexual acts–or, for that matter, display any moral disapprobation of them–than I would forbid it to do so. What Texas has chosen to do is well within the range of traditional democratic action, and its hand should not be stayed through the invention of a brand-new “constitutional right” by a Court that is impatient of democratic change. It is indeed true that “later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress,” ante, at 18; and when that happens, later generations can repeal those laws. But it is the premise of our system that those judgments are to be made by the people, and not imposed by a governing caste that knows best.
That’s the basis of democratic self-governance, rather than clerical rule, regardless of whether the clerics adhere to a religious faith or an autocratic class of ideologues.










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I can not stand Barney Frank.
StephC on March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I suppose Scalia’s knowledge of Latin is better than Frank’s, and Scalia might respond, “I’m not afraid of men.”
Wethal on March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
This guy makes me want to spit!
Hunt035 on March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
And Barney Frank is a heterophobe.
carbon_footprint on March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
That interview was gay.
Bishop on March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
So what?
The Dean on March 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Open mouth, insert foot. er..
becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
1 out of 9 votes is too many?
SoulGlo on March 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
He just makes me want to vomit.
ctmom on March 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
He seems to have put a lot of work over the years into pronouncing homophobe correctly.
Kelligan on March 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
There is something queer about this 365gay.com site……
Seven Percent Solution on March 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
People who say that stereotypes don’t exist in real life haven’t heard this prancing, lisping queen do an interview.
teke184 on March 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Barney Frank knows he’ll have no opposition in ’10, so he can say or do whatever he wants as long as he stays out of jail. He’s a walking advertisement for term limits.
ddrintn on March 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Barney Frank is a liar and a crook. The other week he called for the prosecution of those who were responsible for the economic meltdown. Now this.
Frank ought to be in jail.
INC on March 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
David Patterson down to 29% approval rating
William Amos on March 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
What president was it who signed DOMA? Bill, somebody?
Wethal on March 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
How does he get away with calling a Supreme Court Justice a homophobe? Isnt that hate speech?
He needs to apologize anyway. What an idiot.
becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
The very term “homophobe” is ridiculous on it’s face. Homo means self, phobe means afraid, so homophobe would mean to be afraid of oneself. What? Even granting some poetic license and “assuming” that “homophobe” is short for “homosexualphobe” it would still make little sense as that would mean someone who is afraid of homosexuals.
BTW, Barney Frank is so God damned ugly that why would any man or woman want to get anywhere close to him anyway?
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I reckon Fwankie has never heard of Baker v. Nelson.
Of course, reading up on it would just detract from any future rage-filled diatribes about how anyone who disagrees with him, the homosexual agenda or revisionist pastors are homophobic.
Ryan Gandy on March 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM
David Patterson down to 29% approval rating
William Amos on March 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Probably because he’s gay.
Bishop on March 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I think what Frank does while on the job is far more offensive and damaging than any dopey and stupid thing that he farts out of his mouth.
Weebork on March 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Hey Barney, several million Americans refer to you as a homo-sexual, a homo-crook, a homo-thug… Back at ya ass wipe.
Keemo on March 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM
What a class administration. Name calling, laughing while discussing dire situations, a Press Secretary that uhhhs and ahhhhhs with no clue, scores of them not paying taxes until caught, foreign policy is sending a beta-max tape to iran…..sighhhh..
malkinmania on March 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM
What a bitter fruit. Sour cocktail..A smelly polecat…Sorry, but I just don’t like that pumpous azz.
Itchee Dryback on March 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM
At what point do we start demanding for this man to be removed from office? I mean, WTF are these creatures doing having power over our lives!
Keemo on March 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Coming from someone as morally and ethically corrupt as Barney Frank, being called anything derogatory by the representative from Mass should be considered a compliment.
Barney Frank is so corrupt….
How corrupt is he?
When he is dead and gone he would soil the pig sty under which he should be buried.
jcrue on March 23, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Old twinkle toes really knows how to shape his answers doesn’t he!
regmgr on March 23, 2009 at 6:07 PM
becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
I am shocked, woman. Shocked, I tell you.
Bwahney Fwank…the Elmer Fudd of Congress.
kingsjester on March 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM
I think gays are quite presumptuous to think that those that don’t like them are phobic. Phobic means fear.
keep the change on March 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
You have one life, let it be gay
Shouldn’t one do as one’s told to?
No, let the moment enfold you
Grab up every golden chance
Life is such romance
Give this world a sweeping glance
Let it set your soul a-dancing night and day
Vivez!
Live, here’s to life, let us all be gay
Let go of each inhibition
No one need give you permission
What are you waiting for?
Vivez!
PercyB on March 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
This is the crook who ran a gay escort service out of his DC home WHILE in office? You know our country is in trouble when this guy is put up as a credible person by the MSM. It’s criminal.
marklmail on March 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
meanwhile, name that party! (you can kinda infer from the last parargraph, but they sure don’t come out and say it)
http://tinyurl.com/d2ge4l
BuzzCrutcher on March 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Thank you! +1
Christian Conservative on March 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
There is something called 365GayNews? I thought with The One in the White House, there would be no need for grievance and identity politics.
I’ll be over by the gallows having a couple laughs
billypaintbrush on March 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM
The use of the word “homophobe” is the mark of an uneducated mind or a person who just wants to smear others who don’t march in lock-step with themselves with a made up slur.
GardenGnome on March 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Hey Bonny Fwank,
He only has one vote the remaining belong to the other members of the court.
thomasaur on March 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM
becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM
I’m not a homophobe: I think Barney Frank should be executed.
Right_of_Attila on March 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Is Bonny a normalphobe or something? I think we need hearings.
thomasaur on March 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Is Scalia afraid of homosexuals? Nope.
Is he opposed to twisting the text of the Constitution to create special rights for people who choose to engage in homosexual behavior? Damn straight.
OhioCoastie on March 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Click on the March 18 Ramirez cartoon!
INC on March 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM
LOL Looks just like him!
becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
It’s all just another one of Barney Frank’s distractions.
In an interview with CNBC, Representative Barney Frank says he wants to push for prosecution of the people who caused the country’s financial meltdown.
A September report from the Business & Media Institute suggests one possible target for investigation: a senior member of the House Banking Committee. This congressman is “a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989″ and “was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive.” The same congressman “was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae.” We won’t mention his name–oh wait, come to think of it, we already did.
In other news, O.J. Simpson has gone undercover in a Nevada prison in search of the real killer.
- James Taranto
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
I don’t know if was the Banking Queen or that tart of an interviewer……………
………….. but as they moved in their chairs, you could hear ssssssssssqqqqquuuuuuiiiiiiisssssshhhhhh.
Seven Percent Solution on March 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
What? You mean Bwaney still, isn’t in prison?
Kjeil on March 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
becki51758 on March 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM
You’re right. It looks like the overwhelming consensus of the posters on this thread is that Bwahney gives useless people a bad name.
kingsjester on March 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
I wish he were asked to justify that remark.
DaveS on March 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Frankaphobe, Guilty
JohnBissell on March 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Breaking news on Barney Frank.
petefrt on March 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
More importantly,..where are the Banking Queen’s teeth?
a capella on March 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Maybe Barney is a frankophobe.
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Man, I love this guy. He just tells it like it is and doesn’t give a rats behind who he offends. Thats the sweet freedom he has coming from the state of MA. They love him there and he’ll be in office until he decides to leave. Go get em, Barney!
dcwvu on March 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Gee, a gasbag of extremely low moral character (no, I’m not referring to his sexual orientation) calls Justice Scalia names? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell ya! I’ll take whatever help we can get on certain issues, but all in all I’d like to see this bum tossed out on his plump rear.
JohnAGJ on March 23, 2009 at 6:20 PM
The ONLY reason the deeply corrupt Barney Frank is in congress instead of in jail is because he plays the victim card so often.
American Elephant on March 23, 2009 at 6:20 PM
You should deduct me 1/2 for failing to mention that his part in Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac means he should be first in line!
:-)
INC on March 23, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Apparently, the Midol wasn’t working for him.
AubieJon on March 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM
As a gay Jew, I find Barney Frank an utter embarrassment. At least, we have a good Jewish Congressional leader in Eric Cantor. When do we get some good gay Republican Congressional leadership?
thuja on March 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Go directly to jail.
BetseyRoss on March 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Prison would be a gift for this queer. With his weak position on Iran I say send him there.
lavell12 on March 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM
The word “dignity” and Barney Frank are strangers. That fat little degenerate wouldn’t know the meaning of the word anyway.
GarandFan on March 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM
The state of Massawhatsis sure has some mighty strange people. They talk very funny too. Someone should start up an English program there as well as a search for all the missing R’s.
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Now that’s just wrong on so many levels.
thomasaur on March 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Man, I love this guy. He just tells it like it is and doesn’t give a rats behind who he offends.
In the old days, that was known as “Bush Being Dumb”, now it’s a profile in courage?
Ahh, the old days.
Bishop on March 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Jail is where he belongs. Where is the outrage? Where are the Congressional investigations?
petefrt on March 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM
The SCOTUS is supposed to be a respected, equal part of our system of checks and balances.
Oh well, Frank’s comment reflects on him more than Scalia.
cs89 on March 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Barney Frank looks like he has been whopped with an ugly stick. Someone call an him an ambulance.
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Scalia’s got too many votes? You mean making judgments on what the Constitution says has too many votes? “so authenticated” means the Federal Government has the right to decide what qualifies, and frankly I appreciate any federal measure to promote state power.
I personally support gay marriage, and I don’t support government being involved in marriage because I support gay marriage and I don’t want to ever push that upon people who don’t. But DOMA is law, and overturning it in the courts to avoid having to get the votes just undermines the rule of law. Getting those who interpret the rules to misinterpret the rules is not a justifiable substitute for winning the game.
galenrox on March 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM
This guy has a talent for coarsening any conversation he is in. Way to conduct yourself in a manner befitting the office you hold, Barney.
And I suppose the people who want to hold him accountable for running a prostitution ring out of his townhouse are homophobes too, right?
Scrappy on March 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Har, better than your story about the chest hair?
petefrt on March 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Let’s see, Ted Kennedy is a Senator. Bwahney Fwank is a Congressman. Evidently, discernment is not a spiritual gift of the majority of Massachusetts voters.
kingsjester on March 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Barney Frank: Who you calling ugly, you homophobe?
Fred Sanford: I’m calling you ugly, I could push your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies.
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Barney Frank is a shining example of the need for term limits.
brogers on March 23, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Imagine a US map, long about Springfield, Mo. there’s a large push button that says, reset.
Time to push it.
Speakup on March 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM
I expect nothing less from “The Banking Queen”
Bicyea on March 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Next time someone disagrees with me, I’m going to label them as a ‘Betta-owner-phobe”.
How does Barney Frank like them apples?
If Frank has a legal argument he’d like to make OR he has some evidence that Scalia bases his decisions off of a fear of homosexuals, he can feel free to make those arguments.
If, however, his entire argument is simply one giant ad hominem, he should sit down and let the adults speak.
JadeNYU on March 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM
We expected any better from this nutcase (Rep. Frank?).
I’m getting tired of his grand-standing. If it’s not gay-rights, then he’s trying to pawn off responsibility for the economic mess on others and not himself.
Citizens of Mass. Get a clue and give this guy his walking papers.
If this dummy isn’t Exhibit #1, along with Pelosi as #2 for anti-gerrymandering laws, I don’t know what is. I’ve long held that all 435 US House seats should be contested and “not safe” in each election that happens every 2 years. If we had that, which the Founders intended, then our political system would begin to look quite different, I’d wager.
mngander92 on March 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Hey Fwank, most of us aren’t “phobes” at all, we simply recognize how illogical your lifestyle is. Sadly too many have abandoned logic in the past couple of generations.
RightWinged on March 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Fred Sanford: Who is it?
Barney Frank: It’s Barney!
Fred Sanford: Barney who?
Barney Frank: You know Barney who! Open this door you homophobic fool!
Fred Sanford: I can’t open the door!
Barney Frank: Why not?
Fred Sanford: You too ugly!
Barney Frank: But Fred, I need your help.
Fred Sanford: But, Barney, I’m a junkman, not a plastic surgeon.
Barney Frank: But, Fred, I need your truck.
Fred Sanford: I agree. Son, take the truck and run over Barney’s face again.
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Gerry Studds was unavailable for comment.
Wade on March 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Actually the rack wasn’t bad, it’s just too bad about the growth on the neck.
thomasaur on March 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Lawd Gawd, you reckon his partners are as pretty as he is?
Lincoln Cadillac on March 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
It may have been about 30 years ago there was a good Republican from Maryland who was gay. Someone thought he should be outed and did so. Of course it was terribly shocking at the time. He joined the Log Cabin Republicans but moved to San Francisco and I don’t know if he ever went back to elective office again. His name was Bob Bauman and as I recall he came from a pretty conservative district on the Eastern Shore. It was pretty sad as someone just couldn’t mind their own business. It was his decision to come out on his own, but some busy-body just couldn’t shut up.
BetseyRoss on March 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Credit default swaps? Hell, Barney said nothing was wrong with fannie and freddie, So, with the full faith and credit of the federal government behind these forced loans, why not make a buck in the market? Barney, you did say there was nothing to worry about – more than once – right? Frank, and Dodd, and Maxine Waters should all be in prison.
marklmail on March 23, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Mr. Frank’s pomposity is laughable. He is an utter disgrace and an embarrassment to the people he pretends to represent. His lust for power is sickening.
One day his crimes will catch up with him.
Zorro on March 23, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Fred Sanford: I agree, butt no rear end collisions.
Wade on March 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM
I’m not a homophobe but whenever I see Barney Frank, I wonder who in hell would ever date him.
myrenovations on March 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Barney Frank will puke a buzzard off a gut wagon.
ladyingray on March 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM
should read if people hear him call
pabarge on March 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Exactly, the man is such scum! Of all of the politicians I dislike he’s the one I HATE and I would not think twice of biatch slapping him, but then again if I did I would be brought up on charges of a “hate crime!” When in actuality my biatch slapping him would have absolutely nothing to do with the fact he’s a D**K smoker but instead has everything to do with th fact he’s a hypocritical, lying POS that is in government for himself not the PEOPLE!
Liberty or Death on March 23, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Term limits….
d1carter on March 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM
“It’s a cheap shot, and one I’d like to say was beneath the dignity of a member of Congress, except we’re talking about Barney Frank here.”
There is no such place.
AnotherRightWingConspirator on March 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Barney Frank does not care what y’all think. He won. Your guy lost.
Remember this: if Republicans had not lost the good will of the American people, Obama would not be president and Barney Frank would be a member of the minority party.
Frank should have been tossed out of Congress when he was caught letting his boy-toy run a prostitution ring out of Barney’s house.
pabarge on March 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Ramirez is great!
INC on March 23, 2009 at 6:46 PM
We’re coming for you liberal freaks. I hope they initiate hearings on every single Lib crook. Hell, I’d run on that platform across the country. Bring back honesty. The slam ads alone would damn the Libs.
marklmail on March 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Barney probably just pinned the blame on his boy-toy like he’s trying to pin the blame on AIG.
Christian Conservative on March 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM
For the same reason any man in a position of power can attract sexual partners: he can use his power to help his sexual partners get power (and/or money). As Kissinger said, it’s an aphrodisiac. Doesn’t matter if Fwank’s a lisping, lipless, wrinkled, smelly old queen. As long as he has power, there will be people willing to bed him.
AZCoyote on March 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM
The man is uncommonly ugly. Maybe it’s his great personalty? No, that can’t be it. Must be his $$$.
MB4 on March 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM
H.P. Lovecraft picked the right place to base his stories.
Feedie on March 23, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Bawney Fwank, living proof that you don’t get a round mouth from eating square meals.
I really care not what Bawney does in his bedroom, I’d rather not know, but feel free to do it. That said, you have no more right to force your personal lifestyle choices down my throat, than I to force mine on you.
If America does not want gay marriage, it is the choice of the American people, sorry, deal with it. I have no issues with gay people, but do not support gay marriage.
I often wonder how liberals can look at the Constitution and clearly see the right to abortion and gay marriage as an individual right, yet there is no right to firearm ownership, WTF?
Perhaps we should support abortion and gay marriage, that would cut down on the number of liberals down the road.
Oh well, we can at least be reassured that there will be no spawn of Bawney.
M-14 2go on March 23, 2009 at 6:56 PM
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