The Geithner plan: Still a contradictory bag of slogans

posted at 10:16 am on March 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The New York Times got the obligatory leak from the nearly-empty halls of Treasury for today’s scoop on the plan from Tim Geithner and Barack Obama on how to fix the economy.  To no one’s great surprise, it involves more regulation and intervention by the government, but the only thing clear about it is that Geithner and Obama still don’t have specifics.  At one point, the Times report suggests that the Obama administration knows how destructive its plan will be — and that they’ll wait to apply it when it will no longer be necessary:

Officials said the proposal would seek a broad new role for the Federal Reserve to oversee large companies, including major hedge funds, whose problems could pose risks to the entire financial system.

It will propose that many kinds of derivatives and other exotic financial instruments that contributed to the crisis be traded on exchanges or through clearinghouses so they are more transparent and can be more tightly regulated. And to protect consumers, it will call for federal standards for mortgage lenders beyond what the Federal Reserve adopted last year, as well as more aggressive enforcement of the mortgage rules.

If those rules focus on ensuring that mortgages go to those who can afford them, then that sounds great.  It would get the government out of the social-engineering business when it comes to credit markets.  I have a sneaking suspicion, though, that it will include tighter enforcement of the Community Reinvestment Act, which is what created the housing bubble in the first place.  That will have the government penalizing banks that lend responsibly — and bailing out banks that joined the social-engineering plans of Washington’s elite from both parties.  That approach will put us right back where we are now in just a few years.

The big splash for this story was that it showed the Obama administration going after executive pay, even in areas where government regulation doesn’t reach now.  However, a closer look at the Times article shows that the Obama administration has no idea how it will do it, where it will go, or even if it wants to take that leap in any real way:

The officials said that the administration was still debating the details of its plan, including how broadly it should be applied and how far it could go beyond simple reporting requirements. Depending on the outcome of the discussions, the administration could seek to put the changes into effect through regulations rather than through legislation.

In other words, it could just be a Sarbanes-Oxley approach for executive compensation at publicly-traded corporations.  As far as I know, publicly-traded corporations already have reporting requirements for executive compensation.  The AIG bonuses, about which Democrats lied to stoke all this righteous indignation and class warfare, were disclosed in their SEC filing last November and known to Tim Geithner at the time, as well as at a March 3rd hearing before they went out (via YidwithLid).  Anyone paying attention to AIG’s filings would have known about the bonuses, and the fake outrage from Barney Frank and Chris Dodd make pretty clear that they’re either lying or completely incompetent at their jobs.  Or both.

But the Obama administration doesn’t seem to have much idea how to apply their new standard … or when.  Their sources suggest that all of these economy-saving efforts might get put off until — well, until they’re no longer needed:

Officials said the plan would also call for increasing the levels of capital that financial institutions need to hold to absorb possible losses. In a sign of the economic system’s fragility, officials said the administration would emphasize that those heightened standards should not be imposed now because they could discourage more lending. Rather, they would be put in place after the economy began to rebound.

So we’ll wait until the economy begins to recover, and then we’ll discourage lending?  If these standards are bad for the economy now, they’ll be just as bad later.  Why impose them at all?

The one clear message that comes from this report is that the Obama administration still has no plan.  It has a few concepts, some of them contradictory, but no clear commitment to any details at all.  Which again begs the question: just what has Tim Geithner been doing with his time at Treasury?

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Obama was bought and paid for by AIG. And we caught him.

Even the lefties like Clift, Rich, Krugman, Reich and the AP are bailing on him… and thats just been the past few days!

Wheres your messiah now, hasnojob?

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 12:20 PM

They are all bought and paid for by these bailed out institions due to the cost of getting reelected.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:26 PM

the Community Reinvestment Act, which is what created the housing bubble in the first place.

The CRA did not create the houing bubble, it merely exacerbated it. But more important, the bursting housing bubble per se does not account for the worldwide financial meltdown. This is the result of willful blindness among the politicians and lenders. You cannot have a stable system of not only derivatives but derivatives on derivatives without a proper accounting for the risk. And it was not in the interests of the financiers and politicians to do that; they were making too much money and getting too many campaign contributions to want to look clearly at the risk.
Let’s put it this way. Everyone knew we were in a housing bubble. This has been obvious for some time. For example, I read several years ago about a practice where teh seller would gift the buyer enough money to afford the downpayment. Clearly the bubble was ready to go. Any yet, no one bothered to ask, when the bubble bursts any day now, won’t that devastate the basis on which an inverted pyramid of debt and economic activity has been based?

edshepp on March 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM

And Gregg is on CNN saying Obama’s economic team is on the right track with the bailed out institutions.

Is he bought and paid for?

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM

The bailed out institutions give them money. Billions over the last ten years so they can get reelected.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM

In 2008, out of the top 25 recipients of AIG donations, 14 of the 25 were Democrats. Two of them received about twice as much as the others. Those two were

1. Chris Dodd (D-CT)
2. Barry O’bama (D-IL)

Between 1989 and 2008, the top recipients of donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were

1. Chris Dodd (D-CT)
2. Barry O’bama (D-IL)
3. Jean-Claude Kerri (D-Cambodia)

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Why ignore the gop on that list?

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Troubled banks still donate to campaigns :

http://thehill.com/business–lobby/troubled-banks-still-donate-to-campaigns-2009-03-03.html

Got em running scared in Washington.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Pretty damming. the One was bought and paid for.

Why ignore the gop on that list?

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Why ignore The One? He’s caught and wiggling in the net. Good thing he’s staying away from lobbyists on his team or his credibility would be shot.

a capella on March 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Well done Ed. I’ve been looking forward to your and AP’s thoughts on this since last night, and I’m sure AP will have something later on. As far as this is concerned:

The one clear message that comes from this report is that the Obama administration still has no plan. It has a few concepts, some of them contradictory, but no clear commitment to any details at all. Which again begs the question: just what has Tim Geithner been doing with his time at Treasury?

This can’t be more destructive to the markets. From all that I’ve read and watched in the finance world, they are desperate for direction. The vagaries you point out, do nothing but put people on pins and needles, scared to do anything, which is NOT what we need right now.

Weight of Glory on March 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM

And Gregg is on CNN saying Obama’s economic team is on the right track with the bailed out institutions.

Is he bought and paid for?

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Nice try.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090322/ap_on_go_co/gregg_budget

WASHINGTON – The top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee says the Obama administration is on the right course to save the nation’s financial system.

But Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire also says President Barack Obama’s massive budget proposal will bankrupt the country.

Gregg says he has no regrets in withdrawing his nomination to become commerce secretary. He pulled out after deciding he could not fully back the administration’s economic policies.

The senator said Obama’s spending plan in the midst of a prolonged recession would leave the next generation with a country too expensive to live in.

Gregg appeared Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM

The CRA did not create the houing bubble, it merely exacerbated it.

If the law requiring eligibility for credit to be based on the race of the applicant rather than their ability to pay regardless of their race didn’t cause the housing bubble, what did?

single stack on March 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Why ignore the gop on that list?

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Because the two leading recipients in both examples I cited are the two major players in the current scandal?

You really need to get Begala to pay you more.

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 12:49 PM

getalife-

Its the dems in power and Obama and Dodd that did the bidding for their AIG masters.

Not the GOP.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM

3 of the Top 10 Democrat AIG recipients in 2008 are now

1. President of the US
2. Vice President of the US
3. Secretary of State

3 of the Top 10 Republican AIG recipients are now

out of office.

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM

1. Chris Dodd (D-CT)
2. Barry O’bama (D-IL)
3. Jean-Claude Kerri (D-Cambodia)

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I believe #3′s actual name is Jean-Fraud Kerri

thomasaur on March 22, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Not the GOP.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM

That is dishonest and you know. It strated under bush and the gop are involved.

Get real and quit lying.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:09 PM

“We are strongly urging our clients to invest in guns and ammunition”

quax1 on March 22, 2009 at 11:11 AM

The stocks to invest in:

Smith & Wesson

Remington

Winchester

FMC (Federal Metalic Cartridge)

Colt Arms

Teleprompters-R-Us

Yoop on March 22, 2009 at 1:10 PM

This is disastrous. The very people who created the problem are hired on by the taxpayers to fix their foolish errors.

True_King on March 22, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Stop enabling them liars.

The gop are involved and you know it.

Stop lying.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:12 PM

That is dishonest and you know. It strated under bush and the gop are involved.

Get real and quit lying.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:09 PM

It started under Jimmy Carter, actually, Dem talking points notwithstanding.

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM

That is dishonest and you know. It strated under bush and the gop are involved.

Get real and quit lying.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:09 PM

This is true, and it shows that there is very little difference between the two parties.

Yes, Bush is responsible, but President Obama has taken things to a much higher level. It’s his party now.

True_King on March 22, 2009 at 1:14 PM

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Sorry, I can’t believe anything ya’ll say until you admit your party is to blame.

Lets get honest for a change.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Sorry, I can’t believe anything ya’ll say until you admit your party is to blame.

Lets get honest for a change.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Tell me specifically how the GOP is to blame. By not cracking down on FM/FM sooner? Sorry, your party was in the way.

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Yes, Bush is responsible, but President Obama has taken things to a much higher level. It’s his party now.

True_King on March 22, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Thank you for your honesty.

Yes, it stinks to high heaven of corruption and a broken fsystem.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Lets get honest for a change.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM

LOL…. you first….

Romeo13 on March 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:16 PM

When you can get honest, I will engage.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM

If the law requiring eligibility for credit to be based on the race of the applicant rather than their ability to pay regardless of their race didn’t cause the housing bubble, what did?

The same kind of economic irrationality that has created bubbles throughout history. So far as I know, the Dutch government in the 1600s had no racial mandates for the purchase of tulip bulbs. Since the advent of modern finance in that time period down to the present day there have been bubbles, many of far greater magnitude than the subprime bubble. Japan did not need a CRA to get their 1980s real estate bubble. The UK managed to join in this recent bubble without a CRA. Madoff did not need the CRA for his ponzi scheme either.
Do not misunderstand, the CRA was a contributing factor, there’s no doubt. But speculation and irrational investors are what make bubbles.
And you’re missing my point anyway. The housing bubble itself does not account for the extent of our financial crisis as I explained.
Let’s put it this way – lessons learned from LTCM’s collapse (that didn’t need the CRA either) which threatened global finance in the 1990s: none.

edshepp on March 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Sorry, I can’t believe anything ya’ll say until you admit your party is to blame.

Lets get honest for a change.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM

CRA began under Carter and expanded under Clinton. Dem expansion required banks to give mortgages to people with no credit history, with only welfare payments or unemployment for income, and eventually with no down payment.

Wethal on March 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM

When you can get honest, I will engage.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Nah, go ahead. Feel free. Enlighten us. This should be amusing. Or does your vocabulary extend beyond monosyllables?

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Romeo13 on March 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Which part of this stinks to high heaven of corruption and a broken system did you not understand?

Now you see why I am a proud Independent because both parties are bought and paid for by the bailed out institutions.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Which part of this stinks to high heaven of corruption and a broken system did you not understand?

Now you see why I am a proud Independent because both parties are bought and paid for by the bailed out institutions.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM

OK, we’ve gone from its being the fault of the GOP to being the fault of both parties. That’s progress.

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM

CRA is not the only problem to cause this disaster. That is a con excuse for their party.

It’s time for some blunt honesty.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:28 PM

CRA is not the only problem to cause this disaster. That is a con excuse for their party.

It’s time for some blunt honesty.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Lay it on us, getalife. We’re waiting.

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Again, I only engage with those who will be honest.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Again, I only engage with those who will be honest.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Enlighten me then, and I will accept the Readers Digest version but not one liners.

thomasaur on March 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The gop are involved and you know it.

But was more a matter of omission than commission and the latter is the greater sin. Yes, Bush et al were cowards for folding when the Ds brought out the race card, and therefore bear some responsibility and, yes, probably their changes wouldn’t have been enough or gotten to the heart of the matter. But at least they wanted to do something.
Oh, and by the way, wasn’t Obama a Senator? What did he do to avert the obviously looming crisis? Nothing. He didn’t even acknowledge we had one coming.

edshepp on March 22, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Getalife; did you see the article a few days ago about the local bank (somewhere on the east coast) that had all its ducks in a line but was dinged for not following CRA close enough. Of course CRA isn’t the only cause but it is a large factor. What happened with the housing bubble was actually predicted by the NYT in a 1999 article about Clinton Rule changes. As to the GOP they controlled Congress through 2006. They could have tried to get the regulations they wanted through the nuclear option if they thought so highly of them. So yes there is plenty of blame to go around.
Nero flamed while Rome burned. This new set of rules is the flame thrower to incinerate our market system. Welcome to the New Rome

chemman on March 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM

getalife-

Show me some proof the GOP put the bonus protection in the stimulus specifically for AIG. Jeez all but 3 of them voted against the thing.

Until then i gracefully accept you apology for calling me a liar.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 1:47 PM

edshepp on March 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Actualy I agree with much of what you said… it goes way deeper than most people realize… but it all comes back to government intervening in parts of the system while not regulating at all other parts.

The entire Risk Reward calculation became divorced from reality by a combination of CRA, Freddie and Fannie, and the ability to buy insurance on derivitives…

CRA forced banks who did not want to lower their lending standards to do so…

Fannie and Freddie would then buy those loans, and market them out as derivitives…

But the part that killed the system was the Credit default insurance that AIG and such made possible. It allowed folks to buy insurance on an investment… and still make money on it. This placed all the risk onto AIG… which is why its now failing so spectacularly.

So, the Gov said give these risky loans… otherwise we’ll call you a racist…

Then Fannie and Freddie bought them…

Then AIG would insure the risk…

Whole Risk / Reward calculation therefore had nothing to do with the investment…

Romeo13 on March 22, 2009 at 1:50 PM

You can’t have capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down, ” Gingrich said.

If you think the gop are not involved in this disaster, you are not being honest.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Show me some proof the GOP put the bonus protection in the stimulus specifically for AIG. Jeez all but 3 of them voted against the thing.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Uh oh, I think getalife has been stumped.

ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:53 PM

We’ll regulate when things work, but not when they don’t?

The basis of government is jugglery. If it lasts and works, it becomes policy.
- Caliph Al Mansur of Baghdad

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Getalife- show us the proof then. should be a snap for somebody with 24/7 of free time.

Looking forward to your links.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM

We’ll regulate when things work, but not when they don’t?

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing things incorrect and then misapplying the wrong remedies.
- Groucho

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM

You can’t have capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down, ” Gingrich said.
If you think the gop are not involved in this disaster, you are not being honest.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

I see you’ve really fallen into the Democrat way of taking more statements out of context and only giving us a soundbyte.

Congress should rescind bailouts and let companies go into bankruptcy, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said yesterday.

“Replace the bailout with bankruptcy, for all of them,” Gingrich told a class at Tulane University, where he was visiting Democratic strategist James Carville’s class.

Gingrich pegged the bailouts for corporations as the “Bush-Obama strategy,” and called Bush administration Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson the worst in history.

“You can’t have capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down,” Gingrich said, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune. “You want to teach people around the planet, don’t make stupid investments.”

Linky

Now, let’s be honest getaclue and perhaps then we’ll engage you with conversation.

Knucklehead on March 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Show me some proof the GOP put the bonus protection in the stimulus specifically for AIG. Jeez all but 3 of them voted against the thing.

w and Paulson did not because they will sue and they did.

Again, if you think the gop is not involved in this disaster, you are not being honest.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Knucklehead on March 22, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Watched it on CNN and yes he admitted both parties are to blame.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2008-213

Nuff said.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Institutions that are on the “public teat”, that is, those that have taken public funds to guarantee their survival, should be forced to have all employees live under the “GS” schedule for government employment wages, effective at the time they take the public funds. The general rule is this: If we backstop you then you live on public-sector salaries. End of discussion If you object to this then return the public money and have a go of it on your own.
- Denninger

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM

getalife, you just said W and Paulson werent involved in the bonuses.

I asked for proof the gop WAS involved.

Looking forward to your apology.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Which part of the Tarp 1 vote did you not undertand?

Why is Newt calling it the Bush Obama plan and blames both parties?

So, waiting on your apology for lying.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:19 PM

MB4; Provided those restrictions were clearly spelled out in advance, which they weren’t, I doubt there is any disagreement. The real disagreement is that they were bailed out at all. Bankruptcy should have handled this. As to implementing wage guidelines for executives this is none of the Governments business. Been tried before and wasn’t very successful then and won’t be now. The talent will go where they can be paid for there abilities.

chemman on March 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Show me some proof the GOP put the bonus protection in the stimulus specifically for AIG. Jeez all but 3 of them voted against the thing.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Again, I only engage with those who will be honest.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Now I’ve been honest, how about answering Chuck Schicks question.

Knucklehead on March 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

The Geithner plan: Still a contradictory bag of slogans

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
- Yogi Berra

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Chuck is not man enough to admit it and apologize.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2008-213

Its the Bush Obama plan and Newt was man enough to admit it.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM

getalife: Tarp I provided the funds but it was the porkulus bill of 800 billion that contained the provisions for allowing the bonuses. The GOP with the exception of 3 senators did not support this. I have to agree with Chuck on this the bonuses lie at the feet of the Dems. The cluster F… last week between the WH and Dims in Congress is adequate proof of that. Newt’s point is that we shouldn’t of did the bail out in the first place. On this I agree both Dims and GOPers have equal responsibility.

chemman on March 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM

On this I agree both Dims and GOPers have equal responsibility.

chemman on March 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Than you but I disagree with Newt on letting it fail, have a depression and bounce back.

That is Hoover thinking.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM

BTW, both Tim and Paulson were right legally. They sued and the courts will settle it.

The argument is if you think the gop are not involved in this disaster you are not being honest and I proved that fact.

Chuck is not man enough to admit it but I think if I was a con, I would look at Newt for leadership.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM

As to implementing wage guidelines for executives this is none of the Governments business.

chemman on March 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM

If these “executives” are sucking at the taxpayers and kids and grandkids “teat” like a vacuum cleaner then it sure is.

This is getting very tiresome that profits are privatized and loses are socialized for the favored.

These AIG “executives” and other AIG employees are for all $$$$$$$$$$ intents and purposes government employees, arguably more like welfare queen wards of the state, so why should they get paid like big capitalists?

Given a choice between trying, as best as possible, to correct a big mistake and compounding it, I go with trying to, as best as possible, with trying to correct as much as possible of it.

It really bizarre to me that there is so much defense of socialism and welfare queens in the name of capitalism.

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Again getabong, the bonus fiasco was part of the stimulus, a democrat creation.

still waiting your link that says otherwise.

oh and my apology.

Chuck Schick on March 22, 2009 at 2:51 PM

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM

+1

a capella on March 22, 2009 at 3:06 PM

if I was a con, I would look at Newt for leadership.

getalife on March 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM

If you were a con, I’d slit my throat.

As for Newt, who wants to follow a guy who had 84 ethics violations filed against him when he was in Congress? That only makes him suitable for leadership in your party.

Del Dolemonte on March 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Which again begs the question: just what has Tim Geithner been doing with his time at Treasury?

What do the secretaries and clerks in his office look like and can they type?

burt on March 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM

This s.o.b. needs to be in jail, not running the damn Treasury.

johnnyU on March 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM

This s.o.b. needs to be in jail, not running the damn Treasury.

johnnyU on March 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Ditto Dodd, Frank and Rangel

Christian Conservative on March 22, 2009 at 6:25 PM

This whole furor over retention bonus is foolish — in the real world, before 1993 when Congress last demonized the wealthy and limited the deductibility of employees salary to $500,000 (with bonuses remaining deductible), this would have been a standard salary.

Now in order to get and keep the people who can run a billion dollar company they have to bonus them.

So a guy who would have made 1.5 million still makes 1.5 million — $500K salary and $1 million retention. Once again the government makes a mess then blames everyone else so they can ride in on a white elephant — or a black savior and fix it.

LifeTrek on March 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM

and other exotic financial instruments that contributed to the crisis be traded on exchanges or through clearinghouses so they are more transparent and can be more tightly regulated.

Regulated by who?

The Idiots who signed the Stim bill WITHOUT reading it?

DSchoen on March 23, 2009 at 5:07 AM

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