Buy Danish on March 23, 2009 at 8:46 AM
logis on March 23, 2009 at 3:05 AM

Then I see a lot of poorly coded Palinbots round here, especially ones that are network aware.

I also see a lot of “unions, baaaaad, AIG goooood” without much of an alternative path presented by those here.

I’m real, and in the flesh. I’m just a US citizen who believes that business deserves a humbling for trying to evade US citizens.
sethstorm on March 23, 2009 at 12:33 AM

Say what? You’re a (barely literate) moron and a loon. Sucks to be you.

other than that, great article. The only thing that bothers e is that I’m kind of having a “Don’t give them any ideas” moment. IE: if this thing is stalled, let it stay stalled. Don’t give the legislators any ideas about how to restart any part of it.

But the likelihood is it won’t stay stalled for long. Better to pass the LEAST offensive parts of it as a gimme to the union thugs than to let THEM pick the parts that get passed.

Still leaves a bad taste in my mouth though. Ugh.

Initial claim of credibility: “I’m just a US citizen who believes that…”

Random call for collective justice and attack against Capitalism: “…business deserves a humbling for trying to evade US citizens. The sooner you are willing to work with the nation and its citizens, the sooner the nation rebuilds.”

Closing attack on random Republican leader, and claim of solidarity to intended audience: “Forcing it down Reagan-style only got us Obama.”

I’m sticking with the poorly-coded ‘bot theory. It’s way too regimented to the result of most kinds of chemically-induced brain damage, but not nearly creative enough to be even a half-hearted attempt by a real-life lamebrain.

logis on March 22, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I’m real, and in the flesh. I’m just a US citizen who believes that business deserves a humbling for trying to evade US citizens.

The sooner you are willing to work with the nation and its citizens, the sooner the nation rebuilds. Forcing it down Reagan-style only got us Obama.

angryed on March 22, 2009 at 6:18 PM

Don’t get me wrong; I enjoy playing ‘make fun of the retard’ as much as anybody does. But we need to have some standards. Sethstorm can’t pass the Touring test. Whether that’s a poorly-coded spambot, or just a completely braindead moonbat, it doesn’t matter. He has no way to know you’re making fun of him; all he knows is that someone is RESPONDING to it. And nothing good can possibly come out of that.

OldEnglish on March 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM

…a bitter Thatcher supporter?

angryed on March 22, 2009 at 6:18 PM

Say whatever you want, but that also hurts Murdoch’s bully pulpits the same way.

They’re just shills for the Republican Party in print/TV form.

Rasmussen got the 2004 and 2008 election dead on. Truth hurts, I know.

You get a job, you do the job, you get paid.

If you don’t like it, shove off!

Why do we always have to conced to the opposition. Why not make Unions voluntary?
lwssdd on March 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM

No part of Communism is EVER voluntary — that’s the whole point.

lwssdd on March 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM

You’ll have labor relations attorneys advising on how to intimidate supporters. That’s why.

I don’t see the labor relations side laying their arms down.

Unions Businesses approach each business unions the same way liberals conservatives enact every other part of their agenda: Push and push and push and push. And if that doesn’t work, change the rules, then push some more until it gets in.

And once it’s in, you start the hardball tactics to make sure it NEVER goes out. Even if that means breaking kneecaps.

logis on March 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM

FIFY.

Oh, and by the way, citations of Rasmussen polls are a sign of someone quoting Murdoch’s folk. They’ll say anything to satisfy the right wing’s co-opted network.

His own ascension into the rarified air of the self annointed political media elite is what’s first and foremost.

peacenprosperity on March 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM

I sure as hell hope you’re wrong. But I have seen previously rational commentators turn into elitists very quickly when fame is within ones grasp.

It might help if you read for comprehension, where I say that this is “still a bad bill”.
and this is the least bad thing you’re going to see. If we can limit it to this, we’ll be lucky.

The old “might as well lay back and enjoy it strategy.” Trust me ,Ed, I read your posts in full. You’re a flatlander, a guy who thinks things won’t really change. We’ll have a few years of “bad ol’” democrat rule and then go back to “good ol’” republican rule. Well those of us out here are watching irrevocable change take place. The rest of the world is watching also and they are coming to the conclusion that we will not be relevant again are starting to adjust their own monetary policies and strategic alliances. The way things are going they may be right. The democrats are starting to make moves through card check, giving washington dc seats in the house and senate and the coming amnesty of 20 to 30 million illegal aliens to cement their control over this country. Better get your resume ready because in a few years to be in the media you’ll have to apply to the government.

If our “side” is going to save this country we better stop settling for “the best we can hope for”.

Rasmussen had a poll last week or maybe 2 weeks ago. It said only 9% (NINE PERCENT) of people not in a union want to join a union.
angryed on March 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Unions approach each business the same way liberals enact every other part of their agenda: Push and push and push and push. And if that doesn’t work, change the rules, then push some more until it gets in.

And once it’s in, you start the hardball tactics to make sure it NEVER goes out. Even if that means breaking kneecaps.

old trooper2 on March 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Unions are for the largest part the reason why we don’t make anything in this Country anymore. Between Unions and rabid Environmentalists, America is not producing anything but consuming beyond its means.

ot2, not to detract from your larger point, but the US has the largest manufacturing output of all the countries in the world by a very large amount (eg: $1.83t US vs $1.10t China in 2007 [UN data, excel file warning, minor excel-fu helpful]).

We do it better and with fewer people.

The bad news is that our lead over China is decreasing at an accelerating rate. The good news, however, is that our leads over everyone else are generally increasing at accelerating rates.

I mention this only because we need to refrain from raising false arguments to support our positions.

Unless we find a way to neuter the bastards, the behavior of unions, the press, and the elected and appointed members of our government are going to destroy the land of liberty that Madison and his compatriots made for us.

But they haven’t managed it yet, and we should not allow their actions to discourage us further than the facts actually support.