Two American journalists captured by North Korea
posted at 10:03 am on March 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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According to Pyongyang, North Korea has two American journalists in custody after allegedly attempting to enter the DPRK illegally. Laura Ling and Euna Lee apparently were in the Tumen region, where refugees flee from the oppressive Kim Jong-Il regime into somewhat less oppressive China. The international incident puts pressure on the new administration to resolve the situation and get the two women back:
North Korea on Saturday confirmed that it had detained two American journalists for illegally entering the country from China earlier this week and said their case was under investigation.
The US State Department had expressed concern over the fate of the two women, who are believed to have been taken into custody by border guards patrolling the Tumen river, a common escape route for those fleeing the North.
Their detention comes as tensions run high in the region over Pyongyang’s plans to launch what it says is a communications satellite early next month, which the United States and its allies say is really a disguised missile test.
“Two Americans were detained on March 17 while illegally intruding into the territory of the DPRK by crossing the DPRK-China border,” the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said in a three-line dispatch.
According to people in the area, Ling and Lee were working on an in-depth story about North Koreans who successfully fled across the border. They probably would have wanted a close-up look at the Tumen River and the passage. Did they lose their bearings and wander into the DPRK? It seems unlikely that the North Koreans would have crossed the border themselves to capture the two women.
This comes at a particularly sensitive time for the Obama administration. They have already protested the upcoming missile launch from North Korea, which Kim insists is a satellite but which the US and Japan believe is a long-range missile test. Japan has threatened to shoot it down if it goes up, and the US has also warned Kim about a military response to the launch. Ling and Lee give Kim an extra bargaining chip, and the media will certainly make it a very public issue.
As the AFP notes, Kim usually coughs up captured Americans with a minimal amount of diplomatic stroking. In this case, though, he can use the two detainees to measure the Obama administration’s toughness. Unless Hillary shows up with a reset button.
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Bartering tools. Kim will use it to get Obama to give away US pressure on North Korea’s Nukes.
William Amos on March 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Yikes. I don’t have much confidence in our state dept. right now.
and LOL at Hillary showing up w/ a reset button~
bridgetown on March 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Maybe Obama should go on Letterman. Make some jokes or something.
JellyToast on March 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM
I don’t like this. My son is in the USAF at Osan AB, S. Korea. That is too close for comfort.
And Hillary showing up with a reset button – makes me shudder!
ladyingray on March 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Because Kim Dung Hill already has Notbright’s basketball.
jgapinoy on March 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Perhaps the otherwise-useless Bill Richardson can help smooth this over as he has done with North Korea in the past. One can only hope.
Laura Ling is the sister of Lisa Ling, who has also done some undercover work from inside NK for National Geographic. It was riveting work.
Captain Scarlet on March 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM
This is what happens when you work for Algore.
JammieWearingFool on March 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Strong horse-weak horse. Bets are being placed.
a capella on March 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Journalists are why America is where it is. If they would do their job and report facts, we wouldn’t be here. So count me as unsympathetic.
amkun on March 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I bet he will!
becki51758 on March 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Why does Obama’s foreign policy remind me of the Don Knotts Movie The Shakiest Gun in the West?
kingsjester on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Why do you say that? I’ve read a lot of stories about missionaries crossing over and the North Koreans IIRC don’t stop at the border… they’ll go a few miles in…
ninjapirate on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
What does North Korea have? Four gallons of fuel and a hundred bullets?
BL@KBIRD on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Ed, you’re going to get HA filtered for me…
DarkCurrent on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
We sent $900,000,000 to mid-eastern thugs, & Kim Dung Hill is just looking for his share.
jgapinoy on March 21, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Isn’t it wierd how that fact is left out of the Yahoo story.
http://cbs13.com/local/north.korea.americans.2.963243.html
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 10:20 AM
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2902529
ninjapirate on March 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM
The journalists—Laura Ling and Euna Lee, reporters for former Vice President Al Gore’s San Francisco-based online media outlet Current TV…
AP
artist on March 21, 2009 at 10:24 AM
I wonder whether the North Koreans watched Obama’s tape to Iran and concluded that now is the time to start pushing Milt Milquetoast around.
From Charles Atlas to the 90-pound weakling in a matter of two months.
After watching Obama’s string of responses to the Russian invasion of Georgia last summer, all I have to say is that with Obama and Hillary handling an international incident, what could go wrong?
BuckeyeSam on March 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM
OT but, just a reply to your 零政 (which I’m guessing you meant to mean zero government? Overflowing government is possible, too, tho) comment if you didn’t catch it in the last thread. I suggested 魅黒世.
amkun on March 21, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Seems unlikely given that the border is a river.
DarkCurrent on March 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Does it say “서울 록스!”?
geckomon on March 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM
As harsh as it may sound, I have no sympathy. Fools like these cause nothing but trouble when they allow themselves to be taken hostage by a repressive regime.
OldEnglish on March 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Damn. That Joe Biden is an amazing prognosticator. He’s Nostradamus reincarnated.
I wonder he could give me the PowerBall Numbers for next month?
Stephen Macklin on March 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Reminds me of The Ghost and Mr Chicken.
conservnut on March 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM
North Korea has some history in the kidnapping business.
North Korean abductions of Japanese
Loxodonta on March 21, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Yes I saw that. By 零政 I meant “Government of the Zero” ;)
I saw your 魅黒世 suggestion. By tradition the era name should be an even number of characters though. Usually 2, though 4 characters for several eras during the Nara period. Perhaps we combine pats of both? How about 魅政?
Btw, I take it you in Japan, is that right? If so, where?
DarkCurrent on March 21, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Also, soldiers are captured and civilians are arrested.
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Let me try to understand this. Our current president is turning this country into a socialist/communist nation. Yet, he won’t guard our borders. Maybe he should take a lesson from those he’s trying to emulate and incarcerate those who enter our country illegally. But that’s the only lesson he needs to learn from them.
As far as the American journalists go, they’ll certainly learn about the joys of communism while stay as guests of Kim Il Sung. I don’t envy them at all.
Know It All on March 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM
They work for AL Gore.
Send him over there.
artist on March 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM
staying
Know It All on March 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Nah, he’s just Joe-the-dumbass.
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Well, if you want to go with those restraints, 煽政 might be better since that’s all Obama can do.
amkun on March 21, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Prayers here.
hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Please don’t forget Roxana Saberi who just had her detention extended.
rob verdi on March 21, 2009 at 10:34 AM
By the way they worked for the online news network that Al Gore Founded.
rob verdi on March 21, 2009 at 10:34 AM
This is a job for Super Jesse Jackson joined with Jimmy Carter, this dynamic duo will negotiate the reporters’ release in exchange for an acknowledgement of North Korea’s right to test and deploy long range nuclear missiles, apologize for GW Bushes insulting and degrading insistence on six party talks, concede the aggressive behavior of the US for stationing troops in South Korea and America’s provocative failure to deliver on the goods agreed to in Jimmy Carter’s last negotiated arrangement on nuclear weapons development merely because the North Koreans may have developed nuclear weapons anyway.
Peace will once again have been secured in our time and both will be awarded Nobel Peace Prizes for humiliating the United States.
KW64 on March 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM
rent on March 21, 2009 at 10:30 AM
amkun on March 21, 2009 at 10:37 AM
First the video to Iran, tomorrow Obama will make the video for viewing in North Korea.
And next week Obama will appear on Oprah and re-enact the Tom Cruise visit of jumping up and down on Oprah’s couch.
albill on March 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM
TOTUS? TOTUS?! Where are you?
pearson on March 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I lived in Tokyo (北馬込)from ‘85 ~ ‘93. Worked for a small company as a technical translator. What are you studying?
DarkCurrent on March 21, 2009 at 10:41 AM
“Citizen’s arrest! Citizen’s arrest!”
Del Dolemonte on March 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Do we have to pay a ransom so they never send them back if they worked for Algore? j/k
gsherin on March 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM
This story is two days old.
Reported by the Times of London, the journalists were on the Chinese side of the border ‘filming into’ North Korea; i.e. pointing their camera at North Korea, when NK border guards crossed the border and detained the journalists.
This is why visitors to the Korean DMZ are warned to not point their cameras into North Korea because is is provocative.
Slow news day? Join the Praetorians on Face Book.
Skandia Recluse on March 21, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Just across the wire from State:
Americans travelling abroad are strongly encouraged to carry their own reset button.
TexasDan on March 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Japanese. Leaning towards 古典/漢文
amkun on March 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Rumor has it that they were looking for a box of ballots from the 2000 election that Big Al was convinced were smuggled into the Dear Leader’s paradise by those conniving Republicans. But don’t fear, Hillary will on her way with a huge box of DVDs to be paid as ransom if she can figure out what region code is used in the DPRK.
Annar on March 21, 2009 at 10:51 AM
This sums up how the UN and Obama will deal with Little Kim
Mr. Joe on March 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM
CLASSIC!!!!!
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM
I pray they’re returned safely regardless of who they’re working for. Hawkdriver, don’t expect sethstorm to show up for a while. It’s Saturday morning, cartoons are on, and Mom’s made breakfast.
kingsjester on March 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM
When Obama was elected this kept looping through my mind:
祗園精舎の鐘の声、諸行無常の響きあり。娑羅双樹の花の色、盛者必衰の理をあらわす。
Not sure if the Tale of the Heike strictly qualifies as 古典, but seems appropriate…
DarkCurrent on March 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Laura Ling? Wasn’t she a former co-host on “The View” and did a story on North Korea some time earlier for National Geographic?
stormin1961 on March 21, 2009 at 11:03 AM
That was her sister Lisa. The NG thing not sure about The Shrews.
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Yeah. Who knew it would only take a few weeks for that to be proven true?
I’ve had 豈独怠之又従而盗之 (あにひとりこれを怠るのみならんや、又従いてこれを盗む) running through mine for a while now. Followed by くそ政治屋め or something to that extent.
amkun on March 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM
“Citizen’s arrest! Citizen’s arrest!”
Del Dolemonte on March 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM
And on this week of the “Obama Amateur Hour” we have…
Be proud, America. Be proud.
Send_Me on March 21, 2009 at 11:16 AM
And a brainwashed population that will die at the behest of “Dear Leader”.
csdeven on March 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I’d only be mildly surprised to learn the NoKos crossed into China to kidnap the two journalists. Remember, they kidnapped several women from Japan over the course of years and they’ve snatched people from South Korea. They also crossed the Military Demarcation Line to kill two American officers in 1976. They have no respect for borders, even those of their patrons.
North Korea is a mountain-bandit regime, and bandits take hostages. That’s what happened here.
irishspy on March 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM
I guess the Russian word on Hillary’s button translated as “weakness” in Korean.
Will this be the hostage incident that brings Obama down… or will all Americans be subject to kidnap all over the world.
I have family that travels to very remote places around the globe I think this world is a whole lot more dangerous with Obama at the helm.
petunia on March 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM
But how can our Dear Leader compare and compete with their Dear leader? Ours can’t even bowl!
Annar on March 21, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Wouldn’t help in convincing the N.Koreans that we have a strong leader… but if he was kidnapped it might actually make the world safer in other ways. Send Carter with him.
petunia on March 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Two Al Gore liberals inside North Korea? Great, give them one year and they will destroy what little is left of that communist country.
…..Keep Them!
try again later on March 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Ling is Lisa Ling’s sister. Lisa blames America for everything, including turning MS 13 into a violent criminal organization, which she contends as just a bunch of homies hanging together in El Salvador.
I bet she turns to America now to rescue her sister from the Norks, and will somehow blame her capture on Bush.
PattyJ on March 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM
thomasaur on March 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM
thanks!
stormin1961 on March 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Jackass.
Don’t worry, with that attitude, you don’t count, pissant.
What the hell do you think they were doing? I wouldn’t lump these two in with the NY-DC crowd of idiot journalists.
Why don’t you go to the Chinese-North Korean border and do a story like they were doing you friggin’ coward.
Better yet, maybe we can exchange them for you. What’s one less worthless piece of dung in our country?
reaganaut on March 21, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I hope they are not mistreated and get back safely.
However the only Americans that should go into that god foresaken sh1thole are Marines and Green Berets.
TheSitRep on March 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM
This looks like a job for Superweenie! (cue Jimmy Carter ripping open his shirt to reveal his secret identity, as he flies off to his latest round of pandering to dictators…)
jon1979 on March 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Another moron.
What is with this place lately?
If people don’t try to do the stories, then how will the information get out there?
I love how easy it is for a bunch of half-wits to sit on their rear ends and pound a keyboard.
Do the people of North Korea who fled deserve to have their story told? Yes they do.
Oh, no but they are journalists, so I must act like a brain-dread reactionary conservative sterotype.
“Well, dang, there here womin jurn-o-lists had no budniss over there. Serves ‘em right, dang womin always meddlin’ into other people’s budniss…”
Fools. Cowardly, ignorant fools some of you are.
reaganaut on March 21, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Great. Just what we need, something Hillary will have to give away for free now to get them back. They were probably libDems to boot.
johnnyU on March 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM
If one of the journalists is actually the sister of Lisa Ling, that could keep them “safe”. Kim is a pop culture fiend.
That they work for Al Gore and will have Lisa Ling pleading for help, means that Obama will do do whole lots of groveling to get them back.
He can ask Japan not to shoot down the missile test, which is probably what Kim is going to want. Noboday wants their bully missile shot down with relative ease
myrenovations on March 21, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I was very impressed with lisa Lings North Korean piece, i was lead to believe that she was a conservative. Is that not true? Anyway i hope that they are released soon.
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kippyc on March 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM
What a silly thing to say. Journalists put themselves in danger to expose what is going on in closed societies like the wreck that is North Korea. I hope they are released unharmed. My understanding is that the cameraman got away.
lexhamfox on March 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM
North Koreans detain American journalists. Who deserves another critical jab in their direction? Why, according to the deranged cellular biologist, it’s the President of the USA. Who else?
I recall Sean Hannity saying the the American troops in Bosnia didn’t even have bullets, and wonder if the Democrats are just Republicans with less Jeebus and less disdain for science?
radiofreevillage on March 21, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Normally with that statement I would agree with you but not in this case. Any one with the balls to go anywhere close to North Korea has my support.
Chaz706 on March 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM
I guess that’s why “freedom of the press” is among the first five rights cited and granted by our Bill of Rights.
Do you think these women, these journalists, went to N Korea to hurt America? The fact that you can’t see journalism for its role in documenting and transcribing history without looking through today’s politicized lens is very distressing. Your perspective is plainly stupid and self-serving.
From what sources do you get your news? All of it? If you say “blogs” I will ask you what blog do you read that does all original reporting, research and fact-gathering? What blog do you read that is not at least 50% a news-aggregate?
Dumbass. The very story upon which you base your idiotic remarks is reported on by the AFP, a news wire agency.
***
CurrentTV is an Al Gore creation. But many of the news packages and reports have NOTHING to do with politics. A large percentage if not majority are enterprise pieces covering slice-of-life stories or regional concerns that have little or no effect on American politics. It’s closer to NatGeo than NYT.
Realistically, Gore created a great model for some conservative entrepreneur to follow. CurrentTV pays citizen journalists to cover feature, enterprise, profiles, event coverage and other human interest stories.
Conservatives complain and complain incessantly about the liberal media. Yet other than PJTV, there is no homebase for conservative citizen journalists.
I don’t know if CurrentTV is running in the black or still in the red. But I know that they got the jump on us. I bet that some of you research junkies and fact-gatherers on the right side could get pieces produced and covered at CurrentTV if you weren’t busy complaining about being so voiceless in the mainstream.
The Race Card on March 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Bull pucky. Check the Korean DMZ at Wiki and you’ll see a list of two dozen incursions to the South by the North Koreans. Also a good number of violations of the neutral zone including incidents that killed a good number of our troops. Between stories from family members stationed there and my own visit to the DMZ and Panmunjeom when I was stationed in Korea, I can say that even the supposedly neutral joint security areas are very tense and dangerous. The Norks have snatched people from the neutral zone itself. Frankly it’s very spooky there. The Norks are very aggressive, transgressive, and thrive on provocation.
I see nothing preventing them from grabbing two troublesome American reporters on the north side of a frozen river with their Chinese border.
Especially now that they stand to win so much with the new Great American Security Bailout.
Maquis on March 21, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Can’t Obamatool just send North Korea a message of reconciliation, kinda like the one he sent Iran for Nowruz? Who can resist Obama’s charms, especially with profound and happy messages celebrating the arrival of Spring?
Although come to think of it, it may be more appropriate to wait until May 1st to say, greetings comrades…
Buy Danish on March 21, 2009 at 3:30 PM
If only they would display as much courage here at home. There’s a wreck up there in DC that needs a few real journalists!
JellyToast on March 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Why not set up a trade for algore. After all, they’re his tools.
oakpack on March 21, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Hey, maybe umbomba could bowl for em.
oakpack on March 21, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Looks like Kim Short Dong wants more toys to play with…
whyyeseyec on March 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Try thinking for once, instead of feeling. If one ventures into a snake-pit, one is likely to be bitten.
OldEnglish on March 21, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Have you ever wondered as to why they put themselves in danger? Hint: Scoop.
OldEnglish on March 21, 2009 at 5:48 PM
To the NoKo soldiers who have been told that the outside world is evil, but who see that they haven’t a chance against it, the two reporters must have represented lovely, soft targets.
Now we’ll see if the wildly-left drive-by media considers these two worth their indignation.
njcommuter on March 21, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Don’t all countries have open borders?
jaime on March 21, 2009 at 7:49 PM
It does? If they’ll take a frikkin’ submarine, surface in a Japanese bay, and kidnap Japanese citizens from 800 miles away, I think it seems EXTREMELY likely that they took these women themselves.
DrZin on March 21, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Maybe Al Gore could trade the North Koreans some carbon credits for his two intrepid journalists.
dhunter on March 21, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Why isn’t Al Gore being quoted? Why isn’t he up in arms?
- The Cat
MirCat on March 21, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Maybe we can get Hillary to give Kim a signed bowling ball.
Kid from Brooklyn on March 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM
From
…They were detained later that day, along with their guide, Chun said, citing sources. He refused to reveal their names and said it was unclear whether they were seized in North Korean or Chinese territory….
North Korean spies have long acted with impunity when policing or trying to retrieve their own people.
Another Article said they were warned not to take pictures of North Korea and wouldn’t stop. Sounds to me like they were close to the border taking pictures/video of North Korea and the “Police” crossed into China and abducted them to stop the filming. They often arrest people for taking pictures in North Korea.
I see no indication at all they would respect this border and not cross it to stop filming of a sensitive area. Every indication would indicate they would do whatever necessary to stop the filming. Short of shooting them. It is very dangerous to even get close to North Korea.
Steveangell on March 22, 2009 at 3:16 AM
We have journalists?
ex-Democrat on March 22, 2009 at 8:23 AM
Prescient youtube of NK and Obama-cult-kids.
ex-Democrat on March 22, 2009 at 8:31 AM
This looks like a job for…The Smartest Woman in the World!
TheRook on March 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM
The river in question was frozen, and is about as effective a control as a sieve.
Apparently the local Chinese authorities allow NORK soldiers to cross and enter the Chinese border town regularly to retrieve their slaves.
Kristopher on March 22, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Lesson learned: When a hinese official tells you that it would be dangerous for you to visit a town in his country, at least consider his advice. He is probably making a grave understatement.
Kristopher on March 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM
What did they expect,these activists might as well have gone
to Iraq during the insurgent head cutting off season,and
ask directions,while the Jihadys sword was gleaming in the
sun light!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Sarc!)
canopfor on March 22, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Waiting for Obama to drop to his knees and kiss Kim Jungle’s butt in 3… 2… 1…
Penguin on March 23, 2009 at 2:56 AM
We have finally found a border that the MSM believes should not be crossed illegally.
MarkTheGreat on March 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM
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