Setting the mobs loose

posted at 3:05 pm on March 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Just in case people didn’t figure out what the end result of all this faux outrage over AIG bonuses would be, New York Magazine reports on the latest in liberal-populist tourism.  Community organizers for Connecticut Working Families Party want to send busloads of outrageously outraged people to the doorsteps of AIG executives’ homes … and claim that they don’t want to put them at risk.  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight:

The Connecticut Working Families Party this weekend has organized a bus store that will make stops at Wilton, Connecticut, AIG office as well as the security-patrolled homes of AIG execs who are fearing for their lives.

“We’re going to be peaceful and lawful in everything we do,” said Jon Green, the director of Connecticut Working Families. “I know there’s a lot of anger and a lot of rage about what’s happened. We’re not looking to foment that unnecessarily, but what we want to do is give folks in Bridgeport and Hartford and other parts of Connecticut who are struggling and losing their homes and their jobs and their health insurance an opportunity to see what kinds of lifestyle billions of dollars in credit-default swaps can buy.”

Right, they’re not fomenting rage, they’re just encouraging it. So if you happen to record someone’s address so you can return in the dead of night, it’s not like Working Families told you to! We know we sound paranoid and we really can’t believe we’re actually on the same side as Rush, but this is getting way out of hand. Oh, to have fat ladies in high heels clogging up the West Village again.

Remember when Bill Clinton accused conservative talk radio of fomenting hate?  What does he have to say about his colleagues in the Obama administration and the Democratic Party?  (via King Banaian)

Update: What a shockCWFP is an arm of ACORN. (h/t: Instapundit)

Update II:  Turns out to be quite a bust.  First, it attracted more press than protesters, a rather ironic twist on the Tea Party protests, which garner thousands which are mostly ignored by the media.  Here are the people following the anticlimactic fizzle:

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hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Don’t get in trouble, we’ll keep in contact with you regardless. But when you open the studio, then we need to know the real name.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Ed-A Monty Python reference. I love it. You had me at, “Come see…”

SerenityFL on March 21, 2009 at 9:01 PM

When do we get pictures or utubes of these running amok mobs? I haven’t seen any good mobs lately.

MB4 on March 21, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Of course, I didn’t do any shopping the day after Thanksgiving so I probably missed some really good ones.

MB4 on March 21, 2009 at 9:06 PM

I haven’t been to Egypt since 85. It was pretty neat. I guess as long as your name isn’t Galloway and you’re supporting the Palestinians, it’s pretty safe. We’re allowed to post pictures. Most unit or installations post a newsletter or site to keep the families up on what they’er doing.

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Dude. I was there for Operation Bright Star in 1985. I saw some sad crap when I was in Giza. I saw a man literally kick a little girl (who couldn’t have been more than 4 or 5) all the way across the street for smiling at Americans and waving at us. Truly a man in need of a serious butt kicking.

However I was able to go inside the pyramid {Cheops I think). We had to go in through a tomb robbers entrance and we went all the way up to the Kings chamber. That was cool. Saw the Sphinx close up. They were digging up an old ship when I was there.

Guardian on March 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Don’t get in trouble, we’ll keep in contact with you regardless. But when you open the studio, then we need to know the real name.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Just for you Cindy. It loads slow.

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM

So, is it to be assume that this is Obama’s answer to Kristallnacht?

pilamaye on March 21, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Looks like the left are turning on the Treasury plan.

Krugman rips it.

This guy destroys it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover/print

And they want Tim gone:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090323/stiglitz

It stinks to high heaven.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 9:22 PM

What’s next, Kristallnacht?

Cicero43 on March 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM

This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me live in a gated community. Not the Rev. Wrights’ gated community; but gated nonetheless….

Branch Rickey on March 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM

It stinks to high heaven.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Poor little “getalife” tot. It must suck to be an Obamabot.

Branch Rickey on March 21, 2009 at 9:26 PM

What’s next, Kristallnacht?

Cicero43 on March 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM
This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me live in a gated community. Not the Rev. Wrights’ gated community; but gated nonetheless….

Branch Rickey on March 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Moving to a gated community asap; I see this as a manufactured incident to launch the next attack on our personal freedoms. Martial law, anyone?

mad scientist on March 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM

I found you!!! Awesome! The concern for the troops on the ground reminds me of my husband’s concern for the pilots as a Crew Chief and later as a civilian working on A6E and the F-14. If men like the two of you (and your fellow service people) ever stop, this will be a sad, sorry country. May we always look out for each other. Even those we disagree with.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 9:35 PM

However I was able to go inside the pyramid {Cheops I think). We had to go in through a tomb robbers entrance and we went all the way up to the Kings chamber. That was cool. Saw the Sphinx close up. They were digging up an old ship when I was there.

Guardian on March 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM

The Great Pyramid is called Khufu’s Pyramid, the Greeks call it Pyramid of Cheops and yep I crawled all the way up into the thing. That boat you’re talking about is Khufu’s Boat and is now on display in between the the Pyramids and the Sphinx. It’s really cool. They just found 2 more statues in Luxor.

Here’s the boat.

And Hawkdriver, don’t you worry about me one little bit. Our dear leader may think he can put me out to pasture when the eyes finally fail, but he’s wrong. I will not go quietly. I may not be able to see, but that won’t stop my big mouth lol. Thank God I’m still able to read.

Knucklehead on March 21, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Heck, I’ll throw the link over here, too. The difference between Reagan and Obama could not be clearer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR5MweSZjbc&NR=1

onlineanalyst on March 21, 2009 at 9:43 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 9:22 PM

If they will just stop, take some time they can figure this out. These are not unintelligent people. I don’t agree with a single thing they have done so far or state plans for the future but they have got to realize the shooting themselves in the foot.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I posted this first in the Headlines in the one from The Anchoress on Lives “hidden” and suppressed, but it applies to about four threads I’ve seen today.

Christianity is the best of antidotes to class warfare.

There is much is the Bible about:

contentment
trusting in God’s provision
working hard
taking care of your family
not being covetous or greedy
being personally generous to those is need

My pastor has said that a revival is what is desperately needed in our country. The spiritual desert in our country leaves us vulnerable to demagogues. A change in heart is the change we need.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 9:48 PM

We’re not looking to foment that unnecessarily, but what we want to do is give folks in Bridgeport and Hartford and other parts of Connecticut who are struggling and losing their homes and their jobs and their health insurance an opportunity to see what kinds of lifestyle billions of dollars in credit-default swaps can buy.”

One has absolutely nothing to to with the other.

Individual irresponsiblity cannot be equated to congressional and presidential idiocy. These terrorists should be given the whole truth, not what lies they’re being fed, and call Dodd, Frank, Obama, Geithner, and the rest of the funky bunch for their misgivings to America.

I call shenanigans!

madmonkphotog on March 21, 2009 at 9:52 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Very true, which is why socialists go after religion, as religion is their greatest threat. America is in a drunken stupor right now, being fed from the trough of socialism for 100 years, and people who find God tend to find it easier to sober up.

It is time we stop fighting each other over religion, and instead work together to remind people it is God we Trust, not Government we trust.

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

madmonkphotog on March 21, 2009 at 9:52 PM

They hear what they want to hear. As sugar coated as the media has tried to make it, it has to be obvious to a four year old that all of the this was done in Washington. But then I have seen the Code Pink crew and they are pretty dumb, no reason to think this group is any different.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM

If they will just stop, take some time they can figure this out. These are not unintelligent people. I don’t agree with a single thing they have done so far or state plans for the future but they have got to realize the shooting themselves in the foot.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 9:43 PM

I am still reading about it but it looks like to me they are not calling the shots. The bailed out institutions are demanding the money to get credit and the economy going again. They are calling the shots.

Now, these bailed out institutions have donated billions to politicians so they can get reelected and definitely not calling the shots.

The outrage from the left is growing over these bonuses but if the real outrage on who is actually calling the shots hits MSM, look out.

I hope it does because it stinks to high heaven of corruption and heads need to roll to fix it.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM
INC on March 21, 2009 at 9:48 PM

I have the misfortune of having two skeptical adult children and I told the younger one just today that regardless of his own views he is going to have to stand up for the rights of Christians to be Christians. At least I got an affirmative answer to that.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Have you gone to the Quote of the Day? It’s from the NYT. I am not for corporations running rampant but the federal government doesn’t do such a hot job for running itself, they don’t need to try to take on Wall Street. I think this is another example of the media letting it’s customers down, they don’t report honestly on people who’s ideology they share and they don’t report honestly on people that impact their wallets.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Community organizers for Connecticut Working Families Party want to send busloads of outrageously outraged people to the doorsteps of AIG executives’ homes

And why don’t they go to the residence of Timmy G.? What about Bawney and Dodd? Pelosi? Heck, the only former/current government employee that we could get them to go after is Bush.

When will the day come that they will actually be outraged by their overpaid fascist representatives?

Upstater85 on March 21, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I can’t resist. This is EXACTLY, EXACTLY why government needs to stay the heck out of private business.

PS KN, I’ve climbed that narrow corridor myself only to have my friend Randy get clostrifobic at the narrowest part and then have to go back down, (against the stream of other tourists.)

PPS Cindy, props to your hubby too. Sounds like we were both in it for the same reasons.

Night!

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM

claustrophobic

spell checker missed that one.

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Very true, which is why socialists go after religion true faith, as religion it is their greatest threat. America is in a drunken stupor right now, being fed from the trough of socialism for 100 years, and people who find God tend to find it easier to sober up.

It is time we stop fighting each other over religion, and instead work together to remind people it is God we Trust, not Government we trust.

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Actually, I think socialists utilize religion quite well… Look at Hillary the radical Methodist…

Upstater85 on March 21, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Good points.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 9:59 PM

That’s a definite step! Maybe it will get him thinking.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Upstater85 on March 21, 2009 at 10:08 PM

They use a facade of false Christianity.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Have you gone to the Quote of the Day? It’s from the NYT. I am not for corporations running rampant but the federal government doesn’t do such a hot job for running itself, they don’t need to try to take on Wall Street. I think this is another example of the media letting it’s customers down, they don’t report honestly on people who’s ideology they share and they don’t report honestly on people that impact their wallets.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I can’t argue against that point but it is starting to come out. Little by little, the truth always comes out. The politicians are running scared and governing to qwell the masses. The politicians will never fix it until the outrage causes them to fix it.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:08 PM

I went through it but I was so much younger. I am hoping it is part of the trend that our kids do everything later than we did.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Why do you think there are guards outside of AIG and outside of some employees’ homes?

Wethal on March 21, 2009 at 5:31 PM

There are thugs willing to defend them.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 10:16 PM

They use a facade of false Christianity.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Yes, but the non-humanist Christian community needs to keep a look out for the social justice programs that initially sounds so appealing… Christians (by definition) should not be putting faith in the government to solve the problems that they should be “solving” day to day.

Upstater85 on March 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM

I know you think the tea parties are stupid and I don’t know if I would attend myself but if you go to Instapundit there were two large ones in Orlando, FL and Lexington, KY. Pretty impressive. I may have to rethink my theory on their effectiveness. And as to my point about the media, these folks are paid to watch Washington and Wall Street, it’s their beat and they usually have some expertise in the areas. As may whistle blowers as there are in the world, I have to believe their reporting their own self interests. It’s too bad, I bet there is still a lot of glory for reporting the truth before the country starts to spiral downward.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 PM

canditaylor68 on March 21, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Perhaps 30 years of them thinking they’re above being accountable to this nation got them here.

2006, their warning.
2008, their judgment.
2009, their punishment.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 10:20 PM

There are thugs willing to defend them.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Come on, please tell me you don’t advocate these people and their families being hurt. They shouldn’t have to be defended, if they did something illegal they should be prosecuted and if they did something unethical they should be sued. No violence.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Moving to a gated community asap; I see this as a manufactured incident to launch the next attack on our personal freedoms. Martial law, anyone?

mad scientist on March 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM

That won’t stop martial law. You’re only evading accountability.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM

I know you think the tea parties are stupid and I don’t know if I would attend myself but if you go to Instapundit there were two large ones in Orlando, FL and Lexington, KY. Pretty impressive. I may have to rethink my theory on their effectiveness. And as to my point about the media, these folks are paid to watch Washington and Wall Street, it’s their beat and they usually have some expertise in the areas. As may whistle blowers as there are in the world, I have to believe their reporting their own self interests. It’s too bad, I bet there is still a lot of glory for reporting the truth before the country starts to spiral downward.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Not stupid but not helping get the truth out to get change to fix it. It’s misdirected outrage and would hope the truth does get out about these bailed out institutions and all Americans demand to fix it. The AIG outrage is in the right direction.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM

There are thugs willing to defend them.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 10:16 PM

The real thugs here are the ones who want to know where they live. Those people are protecting themselves and their families from the lynch mob this is encouraging.

Conceal carry. Castle Doctrine. No lynch mob would dare try it here in TX with those two laws!

But again, I guess you would LOVE to be the executioner, handling the mechanics of the guillotine… Smell of blood makes you high?

Because there will be blood if this continues. But not the kind you like.

Come on, please tell me you don’t advocate these people and their families being hurt.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Of course he does!

newton on March 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM

I think your outrage is misdirected. These folks are your scapegoats. At least I have always been willing to let them fail, you seem to ignore those who stood in the way of that happening and even went so far as to prop them up. Not logical.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM

newton on March 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Very sad isn’t it?

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:19 PM
getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM

We were at the tea party in Orlando today. The Orlando Sentinel had the crowd size at 4200.
http://www.orlandoteaparty.com said, “The city estimated it at 5000-6000 and the police on site wholeheartedly agreed.” I’m not sure why the range of numbers, but it was huge. All ages were there from babies to senior citizens.

I don’t think the outrage is misdirected. For one thing the crowd didn’t feel outraged and for another they knew who to blame. It wasn’t a class warfare kind of group–that’s the Dem’s modus operandi. (The only class this crowd didn’t like was the Congressional class!). The signs were a mix of funny, ironic and angry, but the crowd didn’t feel angry. It had no mob flavor to it at all. There was more of a determined feel to it.

I saw one AIG sign and that had to do with Congress not reading the stimulus bill before signing it.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM

I think your outrage is misdirected. These folks are your scapegoats. At least I have always been willing to let them fail, you seem to ignore those who stood in the way of that happening and even went so far as to prop them up. Not logical.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM

When w said wall street got drunk and bailed them out I said this will not end well. The logic of him doing it is bail them out or the economic system crashes. That is a depression if we let them fail. Both Presidents decided against the depression.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM

What was the goal of the protest?

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Read here and here.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Actually, I think socialists utilize religion quite well… Look at Hillary the radical Methodist…

Upstater85 on March 21, 2009 at 10:08 PM

It is true that there are branches of religion that worship the God of Socialism…Reverend Wright comes to mind. And I even saw a sad statistic many years ago that many church leaders don’t even believe in God, they just recognize that good works is good for the community ( and that its good business ). However, instead of attacking those churches or priests as false, work in your own religion and encourage everyone to reconnect with God. From the Bible we know, that it was as simple for the people to humble themselves before God and call on him that he would then protect that nation from their enemies. We need to remember how powerful we were on 9-12-2001.

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Okay.

Now from a different protest:

http://www.sundayherald.com/international/shinternational/display.var.2497032.0.0.php

See a difference on the goal of the protests?

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Key West Reader was also there. Here’s a link to her comment about it on the QOD thread.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Love the comment on one of the links:

George Soros should ask for a refund!

Christian Conservative on March 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM

“…out running on morning in a forested area…just beautiful. You could almost hear the ghosts of the Revolutionary Patriots in and among the trees…along the trail…made me remember what we fight for….hope I still recognize this country at mid-tour. …”promise to fight this battle back home.

hawkdriver on March 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Affirm Hawk…

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge my duties as a USA citizen and USN veteran. So help me God.

Pray too, that your deployment and ops are successful, and that you return home safely to your family, and to a responsible, prosperous, and thankful nation.

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on March 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Both Presidents guaranteed that we would have a Depression, and it will be worse than the 1930s, because back then the dollar had strength. Both Presidents have created the mother of mothers great bubble, and President Obama is pumping so fast to make it an even bigger bubble. It will pop. Already we are seeing signs of it popping. The Fed is printing money, why? Because people are realizing the dollar is paper, and is only as good as people’s trust in it…and no one is buying our debt anymore. We are now as a nation that guy we make fun of who pays their credit card bill with his other credit card. What happens when he can no longer do that? It will be a world of hurt. And unfortunately America has been so drunk from eating at the trough of socialism for 100 years, that if we were to have another revolution, we will have a French one, not an American one. Our only hope is God.

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM

So you gathrerd to show patriotism?

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:11 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Yeah, the French have a lot to brag about. So what are they going to do with their scorched earth tactics?

“But only in France is there this specificity of protest on the street. The main reason is our tradition of radical social movements and defiance of the institutions of state.”

So tell me, how many forms of government have they ripped through since the French Revolution? I can’t remember the number, but I think it’s something like about two dozen.

The tea parties are a grassroots movement of conservatives who are law abiding kind of people. There were babies, families, children and senior citizens there.

Violence is the MO of the ACORN thugs. Don’t try to gin it up.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM

The tea parties are a grassroots movement of conservatives who are law abiding kind of people. There were babies, families, children and senior citizens there

You gathered to show patriotism but you want our President to fail?

It defies logic.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Patriotism and networking.

It’s strengthens resolve to know there are like-minded people.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Instead of “encouraging” I’d probably say “enabling,” but its a short hop from one to the other, and disgusting either way.

Ryan Gandy on March 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM

I am impressed with the burgeoning numbers and feel that this may be a good vehicle for action. Conservatives as a rule don’t protest and the atmosphere sound more like a rally. I like that and will be looking into what’s going on in my area.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM

It defies logic.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Come on, getalife. If you’re going to go off on that. You know better. Obama wants the country to fail. We want Obama to fail in his mission.

BTW, the best bumper sticker I saw was something like:

Obama-Pelosi-Reid
The Destruction of America Tour 2009

You’re certainly right that I want them all to fail in their goals.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM

The growing numbers are good. We had to drive about an hour and a half to get there. One of the reasons we went was just to add to the numbers so that the politicians would know that there are plenty of people who are paying attention and who care about what’s going on in D.C. and to our country.

The Dems themselves still care about PR and public pressure.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM

I am sure that both presidents decided on what they thought would avoid a depression. But the aftermath is not justifying their decisions. Wrong decisions are wrong decisions whether it be politicians or corporate bigwigs. Acting in crisis mode has corrupted the decision making process, it is now time to stop and back up and undo what they can. We have a process, a blueprint, it must be adhered to.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

you make the mistake at thinking that Obama represents the country. I pledge allegiance to the contitution, to the flag, to God and my country…not to a man. I will call him Mr President, because he won the election, not because he has my patriotism.

Conservative Voice on March 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Instead of “encouraging” I’d probably say “enabling,” but its a short hop from one to the other, and disgusting either way.

Ryan Gandy on March 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Enabling does come to mind. So cons gather to network for patriotism and business as usual.

Okay. That is interesting to see where you are coming from. You are okay with this economic disaster and want it to continue and happen again. You don’t protest it but gather to support it.

Yes, that is called enabling.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Moving to a gated community asap; I see this as a manufactured incident to launch the next attack on our personal freedoms. Martial law, anyone?

mad scientist on March 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM
That won’t stop martial law. You’re only evading accountability.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM

I get this from the same bloody idiot who wants to leave these AIG families undefended from the mobs?

BTW, martial law applies to the tea parties as well; this may be the point of this exercise in mob organizing.

mad scientist on March 21, 2009 at 11:26 PM

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Ridiculous argument. Conservatives by their very definition want a small less intrusive government and although the Right, somehow get labeled with trying to be controlling, nothing in our history can compare to the attempted power grab going on right now. I know you don’t see it that way so I imagine we will have to agree to disagree.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:27 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM

I am in northern Florida and as I posted on the other thread I want a Debt Star sign. Obviously I am easily amused because it cracks me up.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Come on, please tell me you don’t advocate these people and their families being hurt.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Of course he does!

newton on March 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

The thing is, they don’t call it violence. They call it holding people accountable. That sounds so much better, doesn’t it? Feel better now?

Loxodonta on March 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM

getalife,

You’re being obtuse to get a rise.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:27 PM

It is okay Cindy.

It is enabling but you are free to choose.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:31 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

No, I was thinking the goal of the tea party might have changed. But it is enabling, no doubt about it.

Have a great evening .

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM

I love the Debt Star. Instapundit had a link to a poster of it and a photo of a sign with it. I was guessing that someone printed out the poster on a color printer and pasted it on.

I don’t know if you saw it on RedState the other day, they had as a headline about the Obamatrons coming knocking at your door to talk up the budget.

Behold the power of this fully armed and operational Debt Star.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:33 PM

getalife, you have one, too.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Do they get complimentary brown shirts to wear?

Blacklake on March 21, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Cindy,

I grew up in Gainesville and have family and friends there. We lived in Jacksonville when we were first married. My husband has some family there and I have various cousins. I also have lots of family in the Lake City area.

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM

It is enabling but you are free to choose.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:31 PM

I wish that were true because if it were TARP would never have happened, nor the Stimulus Bill, we would all be sorry about the bankruptcy of AIG and GM but happy in the belief that they would come back in better shape to continue to service their clients. Instead you want to embrace a series of decisions that continue to produce further erosion of our economy, so enable that.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:40 PM

INC on March 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I am, for all intents and purposes, in Jacksonville. Originally from Virginia. As for the Debt Star, there is no way Jose that I could print that up on my own. Somebody must have it by now. I will look around.

Cindy Munford on March 21, 2009 at 11:43 PM

You gathered to show patriotism but you want our President to fail?It defies logic.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

One would think that Olbermann would have something better to do than be posting on some website as getalife aka useful idiot for O

Jamson64 on March 21, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Okay. That is interesting to see where you are coming from. You are okay with this economic disaster and want it to continue and happen again. You don’t protest it but gather to support it.Yes, that is called enabling.
getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Getalife do you ever tire of making yourself look silly?
Your inability to think logically is just plane hilarious.

Jamson64 on March 22, 2009 at 12:03 AM

I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but talk about a contrived and orchestrated protest. This really is out of the radical rulebook.

Riehl World View has this on the AIG “mob”:

Move Along, Nothing To See Here

Putting aside that reporters out numbered protesters on the AIG bus ride. Just who was there? Seems they don’t want you to know.

“It seemed like a fun thing to do,” said Brian Mills, a 23-year-old student, before an organizer shooed away reporters, telling them to speak with “designated speakers.”

INC on March 22, 2009 at 12:07 AM

getaclue stays very confused. The Bald Eagle and our precious flag are symbols of America. Barack Obama is a very fallible man who became POTUS without the experience, knwledge, and personal integrity to be effective in the position. An example of a leader in a European Socialist nation, yes. A righteous symbol of the greatest country on Earth? No. I respect the position. Not the man.

kingsjester on March 22, 2009 at 12:09 AM

knwledge=knowledge
oops.

kingsjester on March 22, 2009 at 12:11 AM

ok my friends get a grip. I hear the outrage from SFO to HOU to all points in between then East to the Mississippi.

Government has no business getting in to our business. You are being misdirecting and had. Get it HAD.

AIG is the Government pensions accounts. They are scurrying to protect themselves.

Gather your balls, your dollars, your incentive to be true Americans and balls up. Plant your gardens, buy your guns, ammo, and for God Sake, teach your Children. We will defend. We will conquer and quelch this crap and throw it up like a really bad tryst with bad Russian Vodka. These guys have no idea who they are messing with. Tell me I am wrong.

seesalrun on March 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Check out the photos, background information, and contact points for the ACORN-based protest group; after all, turnabout IS fair play.

Mutnodjmet on March 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Reading the Rolling Stone article, it looks like everything was put into place for this to happen in 1997, 1998, and 1999. Who was President then?

It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me for the top 10 firms doing business in the country to undergo a bottom to top audit once every five years or else they lose their ability to do business in the country.

crosspatch on March 22, 2009 at 12:21 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/19/AR2009031904008.html

Poor Carlos, just here working and seeking a better life?

RealDemocrat on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

I’m not ignoring those words at all. They can return them or Congress (and by extension, the military) can do it for them in a constitutionally compliant manner.

You just want to see AIG weasel out of paying back the funds.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:24 PM

“…the military”…

You mean that same military that people of your ilk have been viciously excoriating for their performance in Iraq?
The military your side has accused of torture and murder?

And now you wanna sic that same military on American citizens?

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Nobody at AIG or related to AIG is a protected class.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Wow. All this time I’ve been under the impression that all American citizens were a protected class.

The responsibility for the bloody death of America will lie with yourself and those who share your mindset.

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 1:10 AM

Nobody at AIG or related to AIG is a protected class.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Wow. All this time I’ve been under the impression that all American citizens were a protected class.

The responsibility for the bloody death of America will lie with yourself and those who share your mindset.

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 1:10 AM

Amen. That was a chillingly delivered death warrant of which any communist would be proud.

Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 1:14 AM

Drop by. Give ‘em a call. The long distance wasn’t that expensive even from California.

Let ‘em know you’re thinking about them…

warbaby on March 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Is that a threat?
sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM

If they can, and with nothing but the clothing on their backs if they’re lucky.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Is that a threat?

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 1:23 AM

seesalrun on March 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Funny you should say that, I accident watched some CNN early one morning this week and they said that rumor is false. The government pensions are backed strictly by the government. You know, the ones that print whatever money they want/need to anyway. I guess CNN could be wrong, I am sure it wouldn’t be the first time.

Cindy Munford on March 22, 2009 at 1:31 AM

If they’re ordered to they will fire.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:45 PM

OK…now, that’s a threat

Would that include CFWP demonstrators?

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 1:34 AM

Amen. That was a chillingly delivered death warrant of which any communist would be proud.

Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 1:14 AM

Yeah. Most trolls just amuse me.

This one makes me seriously fear for the future of my country.

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 1:39 AM

Great article on bullying:

Field was in computer systems support and development. when he was bullied out of his job, he was a customer services manager in 1994, and was the first to identify the sociopathic serial bully in the workplace. “Most organizations have a serial bully. It never ceases to amaze me how one person’s divisive, disordered, dysfunctional behavior can permeate the entire organization like a cancer,” said Field. “I estimate one person in thirty is a serial bully.”

On his website located at http://www.bullyonline.org, Field describes in depth the serial bully characteristics. Some of those include,
- convincing, practiced liar who will make up anything to fit the moment, excelling in deception
- can be vile and vicious in private but innocent and charming in public
- has plenty of glib, fine words, but no substance; mostly superficial
- pours out what people want to hear
- cannot be trusted, fails to fulfill commitments
- refuses to be specific and does not give straight answers
- adept at creating conflict, thrives on conflict
- quick to belittle, undermine, and discredit anyone who calls the bully to account
- knows-it-all, arrogant and haughty
- spiritually dead while professing some religious belief or affiliation
- mean, and petty, stingy and financially untrustworthy
- greedy, selfish and an emotional vampire
- convinced of their own superiority and qualities of leadership but exhibits qualities exactly opposite of leadership including immaturity, impulsiveness, aggression, manipulation, distrust and deceitfulness Field goes on to say that the serial bully in the workplace is “more likely to know what they are doing but elects to switch off the moral and ethical considerations by which normal people (live by).

chunderroad on March 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

You gathered to show patriotism but you want our President to fail?

It defies logic.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

It defies Russian logic.

We teach them to take their patriotism at second-hand; to shout with the largest crowd without examining into the right or wrong of the matter, exactly as boys under monarchies are taught and have always been taught. We teach them to regard as traitors, and hold in aversion and contempt, such as do not shout with the crowd, and so here in our democracy we are cheering a thing which of all things is most foreign to it and out of place, the delivery of our political conscience into somebody else’s keeping. This is patriotism on the Russian plan.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 1:45 AM

Oh, and by the way, I’m ignoring the more childish of comments thrown at me.

sethstorm on March 21, 2009 at 3:58 PM

That’s ss code for: “I’m gonna ignore questions I can’t answer”.

SOP

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 2:02 AM

It stinks to high heaven.

getalife on March 21, 2009 at 9:22 PM

You ignorant liberal douche….that’s your shit stained teeth you’re smelling.

csdeven on March 22, 2009 at 2:02 AM

Trying to bend my logic will not land you any favors

You may be correct on that point.

Considering your logic has already been pretzeled to Gordian dimensions.

soundingboard on March 22, 2009 at 2:12 AM

Institutions that are on the “public teat”, that is, those that have taken public funds to guarantee their survival, should be forced to have all employees live under the “GS” schedule for government employment wages, effective at the time they take the public funds. The general rule is this: If we backstop you then you live on public-sector salaries. End of discussion. If you object to this then return the public money and have a go of it on your own.
- Denninger

Otherwise it is heads they win, tails we lose.

With AIG it is bravo capitalism when they make big money, but bravo socialism when they lose big money.

Intolerable.

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 2:27 AM

Institutions that are on the “public teat”, that is, those that have taken public funds to guarantee their survival, should be forced to have all employees live under the “GS” schedule for government employment wages, effective at the time they take the public funds. The general rule is this: If we backstop you then you live on public-sector salaries. End of discussion. If you object to this then return the public money and have a go of it on your own.
- Denninger

Otherwise it is heads they win, tails we lose.

With AIG it is bravo capitalism when they make big money, but bravo socialism when they lose big money.

Intolerable.

MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 2:27 AM

If Zero is gonna control their salaries anyway…

But this is correct, you’re on the dole, then you live within lesser means.

Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 2:44 AM

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