Quotes of the day
posted at 9:40 pm on March 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
“A central aspect of the plan, which has already been announced by the administration, would give the government greater authority to take over and resolve problems at large troubled companies not now regulated by Washington, like insurance companies and hedge funds.
That proposal would, for instance, make it easier for the government to cancel bonus contracts like those given to executives at the American International Group, which have stoked a political furor. Under the proposal, the Treasury secretary would have the authority to seize and wind down a struggling institution after consulting with the president and upon the recommendation of two-thirds of the Federal Reserve board.”
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“You take a look around you, the genuinely successful people that you see who you want to be did not check their individualism at the door when they started their work. They didn’t check their self-interests at the door, and they didn’t check their self-respect, and they didn’t turn over the belief in themselves to somebody else. That’s all I’m talking about and that’s under assault by this administration, which wants to control and limit freedom, ’cause the only way Obama can get the power he wants and the Democrats can get the power they want is if you willingly turn it over to them, by getting rid of your self-interest, your self-respect and holding your best interests at heart. Your best interests do not coincide with your government’s, especially now.”
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Michelle and TOTUS help him file his claws down every night.
Upstater85 on March 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Sorry, I thought you might, but it illustrated my point so well I had to include it.
FloatingRock on March 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:08 AM
I understand your point but I don’t think traffic control around a serious crime scene falls into that especially when local cops are way overwhelmed.
goat on March 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM
And we must do all we can to support that ideal. But keep in mind that the president can do all manner of things (including suspension of our rights) by executive order. Our influence over our representatives has degraded a great deal due to the influence of cash in their coffers supplied by special interests. At some point we have to change all that, and we need people running for those jobs that support that idea. The problem is, once they get in and are interested in protecting their position, how do we keep them committed to those ideas.
Our forefathers saw the inherent weaknesses in our system. And some of them foretold of the time when we would have to set things straight.
conservnut on March 22, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Laura:
You are probably right, but he practically double dog dared me.
Ed Morrisey uses his full name. And he is still alive.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:19 AM
You think that by happily ignoring Ogabe’s overreach or better yet going Juan Queeg and yelling like a bad youtube video: “Leave Timmy TurboTax alone!” we’ll get power…..
the softheaded middle want people who want power to do something….
when you have the RiNOs wanting to be 85% democrat and them getting all the press from a media who hates Conservatives….
why vote (R)?
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:19 AM
I don’t think getalife is on right now, and even if he was, I don’t know what he would do to them…
Upstater85 on March 22, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Geez, I come back to HotAir after a hiatus and find a discussion about armed insurrection. I do believe that some people need to step back and cool down for a minute. Have some faith in our constitution. Our forefathers wrote a brilliant document that so far has stood the test of time. We are already starting to see the tide turn against Nobama. I know that Nobama is damaging this country every day with his foolish positions but we were able to overcome FDR’s time in office and we will overcome this. And before some people start calling me stupid, I wrote this over two years ago when everyone still thought that Hillary had the Democratic nomination wrapped up.
Ever since Nobama showed up on the political horizon I have had a bad feeling about him. What was truly unfortunate about the last election was losing so many seats in the house and senate and giving Reid and Pelosi so much power. The 2010 election has to put the dims in the minority in one of the two houses. If this doesn’t happen, then we might need to talk about an insurrection.
dawgyear on March 22, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Ma’am, with all due respect, and not wishing to add fuel to the fire, our founding fathers established a system that they themselves recognized was not sufficient to recover from severe abuses of power and overstepping of bounds. The Second Amendment is as much about correcting governmental misconduct as it is personal self defense. No, I’m not ready to go on the march at this time, but I have never in my life seen conditions so ripe for the need to do so to recover the loss of those freedoms and the reestablishment of that system given us by our founding fathers. It was their wisdom and their courage that made the Constitution and our Liberty a reality. Someday it may be up to us to restore it, thankfully, in their wisdom, they gave us the means to do so.
Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Thanks for the backup on the foolish notion that they were only called in “traffic control”.
I believe Glenn Beck is on this story and played an interview of the police chief, who also needed a teleprompter because he couldn’ get his story straight.
No one seems to know who called them in or who authorized the violation of the Posse Comitatis Act. Why has this story been buried?
Knucklehead on March 22, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Floating Rock:
Okay, I am just too sensitive, touchy, menopausal..
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:20 AM
This was my question the last election. The R’s can do much, much, better.
Upstater85 on March 22, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Kucklehead:
I heard there was a murder spree in that town.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM
I always find it interesting when the government can’t order around who generated an order to move bodies of soldiers on US soil….
it took all but 60 years of US history to get used to the idea of “standing armies”…also no matter how small the town the National Guard is *always* allowed to help out….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Maquis:
I realize that. But I don’t think that the founding fathers would say that partisan hatred is enough to justify revolution.
After all, first of all there needs to some impeachable offences for which the President can be tried..and then he is removed from office. I think we are skipping a few steps here.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I also heard there is this thing called the US Army National Guard….
if the Givernor asked the base to help why is it not out there?
Hell the Mayor and the Chief have not said, “yeah I called I needed the help”….
who ordered the movement?
I want to know to lobby for a medal for him/her and then I’ll watch them like a hawk as long as they have a command.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Ha, I just saw this. My question to Obama would be, “why not let him leave? Has he been that helpful to you?”
Mr Obama told CBS News he would turn down any offer by Mr Geithner to quit, and would tell him: “Sorry, buddy, you’ve still got the job.”
Upstater85 on March 22, 2009 at 12:26 AM
sven:
If you can not even think of a reason to vote Republican, then why complain about Obama? I wonder how many people who say they hate Obama and think he is a threat sat out the last election?
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Now come on Midas. Terrye isn’t that bad. She has a good heart but she is a recovering Democrat so give her some slack. In any case, drop the argument with her because she is stubborn when she argues. You don’t even want to get her started on illegal immigration!
Terrye, I wanted to also let you know that although we have our differences on some subjects, around the time of the election when we were all commenting hot and heavy you had some pretty good posts. :)
mrsmwp on March 22, 2009 at 12:26 AM
No, but let’s say that there is an election, but through various means the election is fixed and Obama gets 90% of the vote, like often occurs in various authoritarian regimes around the world in recent history. Or what if Obama’s handlers are smart enough to rig it so that he only gets 60% of the vote so it isn’t so obvious that it’s been rigged?
Or, what if Obama wins the election by violating the Constitution in such a way that is very popular, like publicly executing bankers and demonizing his critics like Rush Limbaugh, so that when he puts them in prison everybody will cheer and vote for Obama?
Don’t you think that in all of these scenarios conflict would also be justified?
FloatingRock on March 22, 2009 at 12:27 AM
by their standards 4 billion tax payer dollars to ACORN applies….
next?
Oh yeah perhaps his asking for expost facto bills of attainder?
next?
we are slouching towards a totalitarian oligarchy because no one ever says STOP!
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:27 AM
mrsmwp:
Why thank you, I think.
I don’t have a problem with anyone disagreeing with me, but I dislike being called a coward. I am not a coward.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:28 AM
It is not just one particular poster, it is any moron who can drive by tonight or anytime in the future. We don’t just have a right to privacy, we have a duty to those around us not to invite the nutjobs to our neighborhoods, places of employment, etc. I may just be paranoid, but DON’T DO THAT EVER AGAIN!
Laura in Maryland on March 22, 2009 at 12:28 AM
God, it’s nice to know I’m not the only one who thinks like this…
katy on March 22, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Sorry, but you’re making some lame excuses. Ya, there was mass murder spree that happened, but the troops were called in after the fact. And for traffic control? Please! They could have called a couple of rent a cops to handle that.
I don’t think you’re seeing the big picture here and how someone overstepped their authority. Who sent them in is the question? The police chief claims he has no idea, nor did the mayor.
Knucklehead on March 22, 2009 at 12:29 AM
I have voted GOP since my 18th birthday often by absentee given the nature of my life…
I drove to Ohio to cast my vote in person because I knew the Ohio democrats had 250,000 provisional Mick E mouse ballots to throw in with park benches as addresses….we got ACORNHOLED…..
I am a conservative, but when your candidate and the other guy are mostly different because of a tan and torture you got issues.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Um, you idiots are talking about another civil war, except one not defined so much by geography and ideology but by partisanship. Where would the battle lines be drawn? Are you willing to murder your family members who happen to be liberals?
Stop this stupid talk. It makes conservatives look crazy. Besides, if you really want to destroy the lives of liberals, there’s plenty of non-violent ways to do so.
Tabris on March 22, 2009 at 12:30 AM
sven:
What is your point? I am not an Obama supporter. I did not vote for the man. I did not sit home in snit and just let him win. I at least tried to stop him from winning.
My point is that our form of government does have a means to deal with a President that breaks the law.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Tabris:
Yes.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Yeah, the posts with the personal information should be deleted. Terrye and Midas should consider emailing a request in case AP or ED aren’t paying attention.
FloatingRock on March 22, 2009 at 12:32 AM
not right now….
he could eat a baby and SanFran Nan and Harry would at most censure him….
the donks proved this once before….
at best we are 1 year and 10 months from being able to remove a Constitutionally violating Ogabe….
the Amendments are in order….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:33 AM
sven:
When your candidate is John McCain and the other guy is Barack Obama, a man you consider to be a traitor or a danger or whatever..then it really should not be a difficult choice. If it is, then you are not nearly as worried as you claim you are.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:33 AM
I am no huge McCain advocate but really he would not be spending us into oblivion. No way would he have passed that garbage stimulus and then Omnibus.
msmveritas on March 22, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Your welcome, I think. Just kidding!
I don’t think your a coward. I do think that you sometimes have a bit of naivete in your thinking but that is often the case with kind-hearted people. I’ve noticed you are often for the underdog. Sometimes it’s hard to realize that those who disagree aren’t heartless jerks!
The thing with Midas I think you guys would basically agree but somehow communication got crossed.
mrsmwp on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM
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I voted for Palin… Not because she is perfect, or a messiah or like that… But I trust her to be an American, and she was and always will be a better choice than Obama.
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Plus her running mate was a war hero. Remember…
The War Hero -v- The Zero
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RalphyBoy on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Chicago Jesus is a barely closeted Marxist….
his fans are Lumpy’s Prolitariat….
I support keeping their bodycount loving ways at bay by whatever means make themselves necessary….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM
sven:
So you think the American people do not have a right to their choice unless it is your choice? Do you think that attitude helps or hurts Obama?
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:35 AM
depends on which John McCain you are discussing….
I could see him “reaching out”….I will say he would not let himself get rolled by Nan as easy as Barry does.
I voted for Palin and tolerated Juan.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Ralph:
I voted for McCain and Palin. I do not always agree with McCain, but I think he loves his country.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:36 AM
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM
What’s the difference in that and the NG coming in to help in NO after Katrina? I just don’t think its a big deal.
goat on March 22, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Understood. I think some of us are simply coming to the conclusion that we have to rethink what we thought we were going to do with the rest of our lives. Things aren’t pretty, and things are being advocated by our dear leader the likes of which we haven’t seen since the Civil War, or in Third World hellholes and other communist nightmares. If Dear Leader goes too far, and our spineless Congress does not remove him, then citizens may need to act. Seeing this, realizing our beloved country is literally under assault by a foreign ideology and the least American president in our history, well, I think some of our number are spooked. I am. And while there’s little doubt in my mind that this thread will be pored over by some government organization before the weekend is out, making noise before the Constitution gets raped might save it, and might save us from having to take to the hills.
I admit I too find this discussion surreal. So too with the times we find ourselves in.
Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM
too!
RalphyBoy on March 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM
The American people can choose as they will, Barack took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution…the bill of rights are not a series of “privelages” they are the bare minimum we are to be granted lest the system be null and void….
just because people are irritated does not mean that under a Constitutional Republic you get to nail me with 90% taxes….
that you cannot see what he is and what he is doing is bad omes for the future worthy of wondering “at what point” speaks volumes….I never thought you were a coward but I am not at all shocked you are a “recoverng donk”…
probably 40% of what Ogabe says “makes sense” to you…about 2% makes sense to me.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:39 AM
mrs:
No, I would not agree with Midas under very many circumstances. And I might be naive, but I think that calling for insurrection is stupid. and nuts and idiotic and makes people look and sound stupid and nuts and idiotic.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:39 AM
The National Guard is controlled by the state, unless federalized….I know this may shock you but it is a check on the overt partisan use of the active duty military by each level of government…..
simply put a Captain, Colonel, or General does not get to make that call without going up the chain to DC.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:41 AM
It’s probably too late. I spoke on the phone with someone I’d become friendly with on a blog. After I talked to her, I realized she was a little goofy and I cut off contact.
She retaliated and posted my phone number, reversed the phone number, got my full name, and posted that too. My phone rang all night, had to change the number and then another idiot showed up on my doorstep a couple days later. I had hire a rent a cop for a month.
Need I say more? The internet is full of whackos.
Knucklehead on March 22, 2009 at 12:42 AM
sven:
What do you mean I do not see what he is? I did not vote for him. I do not support him or his policies. I do not trust him.
But he won the damn election. We can not just ignore that.
For 8 years I listened to the left rant and rave that not in my name crap. President Select and all that nonsense.
I decided then and there that if a Democrat won the election I would not act like that.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:42 AM
“dissent is the highest form of patriotism”-H Clinton
“that was last year” Secretary of State H Clinton
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Who the hell cares what Palin and McCain are doing. This is the most tired discussion since G. Gordon Libby decided he was a locksmith. If either one of them knock one outta the park or bean the batter then let me the hell know. Other then that Sarah and McCain can crap in each others Wheaties for all I care.
Gimme some TOTUS.
Limerick on March 22, 2009 at 12:43 AM
The problem is that — right now — all three branches of government have little or no respect for the constitution.
Daggett on March 22, 2009 at 12:43 AM
evidently THAT is what sells…
when precisely did the donks EVER get punished for their antics?
I waited for JonStewjerk to get a price paid….”no”
I waited for the AGW cult to pay a price…”no”…
yeah they “paid” all the way to power….
an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth….
he was elected and he gets to stay in power right up until he violates his oath and starts making illegal orders….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Have you been drinking……? and if so what?
katy on March 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM
We don’t need to just run him out of office, we need to take DC back from ALL of these bastards.
RightWinged on March 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:41 AM
I know honor and understand that I just don’t think helping with traffic control is a big deal. I am willing to wager you support using the NG on our border with Mexico as I am.
goat on March 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Agreed, I am sure there may be some drastic scenario where people might have to take drastic steps as well. However, we are no where near such a scenario and speculating about what it might look like seems not overly productive at this time. The best thing Obama has done for us is cleared a huge path for us out of the wilderness. He is screwing up in ways I had not imagined.
msmveritas on March 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM
It only took 60 days? Impressive.
lorien1973 on March 22, 2009 at 12:46 AM
sven:
I don’t think that is what sells. I think they won inspite of that and not because of it. In fact, I think that is why Obama got the nomination. He convinced people that he was post partisan. He is not ofcourse, but people believed it at the time.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM
absolutely but the lines are there for a reason…
like I said “give the guy a medal”
and then “watch him like a hawk”….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Drinking? What a good idea!
Limerick on March 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM
msm:
Yes, the Republicans just might win in 2010.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Defending AIG is a grave insult and counterproductive to decent companies just as defending William Calley or Steven Green would be a grave insult and counterproductive to decent Soldiers. When I was in and just out of the Army the very few times I ever wanted to rip someones throat open was when I heard someone defend Calley.
MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM
he won opn foreign money, a supplicant media, and partisan lies….backed by Axelrod’s canned rage machine….
if it takes nails and hammers I will bring these people down.
Barry got more passes than a naked drunk stewardess on a flight full of drunk dentists….
I aim to make him and his fans pay for every one some day.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM
So what would this president have to do?
conservnut on March 22, 2009 at 12:48 AM
well as long as Pelosi and Reid will impeach him…um “anything”…I dunno I think the 2d is there in case of a uni-party bobsled course going too far like we’re seeing now….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Agreed.
It’s too bad, however, that good Republican LEADERSHIP doesn’t lead us out of the wilderness instead.
(Drinking? Whiskey on the rocks tonight.)
Mojave Mark on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM
sven:
He also won because the same party had been in power for several years and people wanted a change. We have a two party system. From time to time one wins and one loses. Amazing.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Yes, I recall that flight. Those were the days indeed.
katy on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM
We, in lieu of armed conflict, move from bitching here to civil disobedience.
Grab some of those left wing tactics and run with them.
The biggest impact device, unfortunately, has already been taken from our hands, and that is the power of with-holding the purse. Not turning in our taxes.
But there are still roadblocks, strikes, (imagine how much more effective 30000000 conservatives staying away from work for a week would be than “a day without gays” was), leaving info packets about this admin. on doorsteps, teach-ins, letter writing campaigns to threaten boycotts of selected companies which lean leftward.
Write WB, or MGM, tell them you won’t go to movies with X, Y, or Z in it.
We could, if we put in the time and effort, raise hell for the next two years and call some attention to our issues (and boy, do we have issues :) )
As for the tax with-holding, is there a law against changing your W-4 to minimize withholding, as in 0.00?
Not saying don’t pay the taxes, just put the money aside, pay them in full by check, but make them wait til tax time.
The panic should set in around week 3, when expected revenues are WAY down.
Just a few suggestions between here and bloody revolution
OneEyedJack on March 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM
sven:
Fine if our system is not good enough for you. If the will of the people means nothing to you..then what do you suggest?
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:52 AM
I’ll drink to that!
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on March 22, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Damn I missed that one!
conservnut on March 22, 2009 at 12:53 AM
conservnut:
I am not talking about what the President has to do or not do. I am saying, I will not act like Rosie O’Donnel no matter what.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Yep. ***spits on sidewalk*** The boy did bad.
Back to AIG….This has nothing to do with AIG being right or wrong. This has to do with The Hill pretending to be a mountain. Well I got a shovel and that mountain doesn’t scare me one bit. AIG gave the bonuses with a wink and a nod from Congress. I don’t blame a snunk for stinking(AIG) but I damn sure blame Congress for kicking it.
Limerick on March 22, 2009 at 12:54 AM
you are either willfully blind or obtuse….
they “got tired” because of an eight year campaign of the donks crapping themselves for attention….
we have been “in the worst economy in the last 50 years” for the last 28 minus Clinton’s eight…..
do the math…..
I was well behaved under Beijing Billy….the mules crapping on our turn is what has enraged me.
“The will of the people” does not take the place of “Constitutional Amendments”…..I can tell you are an ex-donk….
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:55 AM
There’s an election in just over a year and a half. We could retake the House and make inroads in the Senate. However, the “stupid and nuts and idiotic” party will not win that election. Instead of speculating and getting spooked and talking conspiracies and insurrection, I think we better keep our thinking clear, our words tempered, and our eyes on the prize.
Loxodonta on March 22, 2009 at 12:55 AM
is this thing on?
OneEyedJack on March 22, 2009 at 12:56 AM
I got a free set of braces and a tooth brush… I’ll never forget it… ;o)
katy on March 22, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Well, I have to respect that and thank you!
My point is that they will not take our rights all at once. It will be a bite at a time. We are seeing those bites take place now….EVERY DAY.
At some point we have to say enough.
conservnut on March 22, 2009 at 12:57 AM
oops…didn’t realize you posted here ma’am….
*wink
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:57 AM
I can’t express how much I hope that our corrupt rulers will permit that course of action.
Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 12:58 AM
katy you crack me up!
conservnut on March 22, 2009 at 12:58 AM
I’m glad to see another person with some sense.
Culture is the key. “Conservatives” have lost the war of culture, hence the people; people, government; government, the ability to rule themselves. It’s no wonder the Marxists are so much better at asymmetric warfare: they actually understand the key terrain of the fight. The Marxists will continue dominating the culture via state-run education (the illiteracy cartel) and the media (the sensuality cartel). They will also continue to use legitimate processes for illegitimate gain (i.e. control through taxation, censuses, social welfare programs, etc.) Lastly, they will continue to cause and promote chaos. “Never waste a crisis.” Sound familiar? Oh, and here’s the best part: in the end, people will actually ask for socialism.
“Conservatives” would be wise to learn about the Marxist warfighting model.
Send_Me on March 22, 2009 at 12:58 AM
agreed, but Lox he has two years where the only check on his overreach is the SCotUS…..
that means our liberty and economy rests on Justice Kennedy’s shoulders…
that scares me as much as Ogabe…
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 1:00 AM
sven….? are you the sven that……
How the heck are you big guy?
katy on March 22, 2009 at 1:00 AM
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 12:47 AM
I think we are more on the same page than not.
goat on March 22, 2009 at 1:00 AM
So you are just taking a short break from laying siege to Washington, I presume?
All siege and no blog makes Jack a dull boy.
MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 1:00 AM
I wonder what I said that my last post went down the rabbit hole.
OneEyedJack on March 22, 2009 at 1:00 AM
:o)
katy on March 22, 2009 at 1:02 AM
The Pamphleteers weep
Limerick on March 22, 2009 at 1:02 AM
the opfor will never release its deathgrip on the academy and frankly the media either…
at the end of the day we may have lost our Republic through Bush’s refusal to fight the domestic Partisan battles necessary to maintain the mexican standoff our system requires.
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 1:02 AM
They’d be wise to recognize it and understand it and combat it, but are you actually proposing that we adopt it?
Maquis on March 22, 2009 at 1:02 AM
Yes, our government is overloaded with people whose primary service is seeking fame, money, or power. However, it is also overloaded with incompetence. And, the Obama team is overflowing with incompetence.
That’s where I place my hope: their incompetence.
Loxodonta on March 22, 2009 at 1:03 AM
I can’t call myself a Republican these days with the half-baked ideas that some in the leadership seem to be espousing.
For goodness’s sakes, guys…. The fate of our Republic is hanging in the balance. It is time for us to band together, reshape the party, or kill it and start a new one. Glenn Beck’s 912 project has a lot of appeal for me right now. Hearing that 165,000 people have signed up to the site gives me hope that the brigade of people who are mad as hell and won’t take this anymore can effect change.
I’m an American who remembers and understands what Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson and Madison argued over. I also understand why the Constitution was written the way it was. I also understand why many wise men in the years leading up to Lincoln’s time all set up a system of jurisprudence and laws that allowed us to evolve from a frontier country to a modern one.
All that is in danger now and I don’t think anyone save for us around here and some others REALLY sees this catastrophe for what it is.
I think the petty arguing around here over who believes what misses the point. Most of us do have some fundamental beliefs in individuals being able to determine what they can and should do. If we start there, then some of the other differences between liberals and conservatives start to become window dressing. Our political debate has been poisoned for nearly 30 years on the belief that politics, and by definition human thinking reduces to a binary set of choices. It’s not true.
Only by tossing out party labels and thinking of what we each believe and hold true, and building on that, can we realize what the Founding Fathers wanted.
I leave you with some quotes from Jefferson that I think sums up our predicament.
“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.”
Read Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison and Washington. Understand these men. Then, you can begin to motivate others to change their behavior. That’s what I’m doing these days.
mngander92 on March 22, 2009 at 1:04 AM
I just sent an email to allah and confessed my transgression. In case he kicks me off the blog on the ground that I am an idiot, it has been nice arguing with you all. I really do like the folks here.
Terrye on March 22, 2009 at 1:04 AM
I’m afraid that at least in matters of domestic policy, and faced with a Democratic Congress, McCain would be bending whichever way Pelosi and Reid wanted him to bend.
ddrintn on March 22, 2009 at 1:04 AM
Vegas would call you a card counter. ;)
Limerick on March 22, 2009 at 1:05 AM
FWIW, Fabian was successful, too.
OldEnglish on March 22, 2009 at 1:05 AM
we need to….
if we lack control of the schools our kids will be their footsoldiers…
my child is taught more about granola munching Gaia worship than Rote mechanic math….
they want the kids programmed and unable to test their hypotheses
The media is like opium for morons….
there are 18-26 year olds who think John Stewjerk is a fair arbiter of political news….
we lost because we took for granted our system was so superior we didn’t need to punch the donks in the mouth for their antics….
the 27-42 year olds had the benefit of the WW2 generation having input to their youth….these kids today??
not so much
sven10077 on March 22, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Treason doth never prosper.
Why?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
- John Harrington
MB4 on March 22, 2009 at 1:07 AM
Yeah, but you gotta admit that bridge of boats of Caligula’s was one big thumb in the eye.
Limerick on March 22, 2009 at 1:07 AM
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