Video: The obligatory “Glenn Beck interviews Ramos and Compean” post
posted at 7:18 pm on March 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
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The softball interview to end all softball interviews, although Beck didn’t have a choice: It sounds like they’re either still under some sort of gag order that prevents them from discussing the case or they’re being tactfully silent while they wait to find out if the Supreme Court will take their appeal. (Almost all of the charges against them were upheld by the Fifth Circuit last summer.) Even so, we are dealing here with two guys convicted in federal court of committing crimes and credibly accused of trying to cover them up. As Andy McCarthy (in)famously said, “Compean and Ramos are bad guys.” Beck treats them as if they were political prisoners, even calling them “the dynamic duo” at one point. Dynamic at what? Generating red meat for blogs and talk radio?
Give him credit, though, for smoothly integrating this story into his running narrative about how alone and powerless Americans feel. The man is always on message.
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Law enforcement officers must be so damned tired of getting second guessed all the time. You’re dealing drugs, you’re an illegal in this country—that’s two strikes. Next time, rather than getting a break and getting shot in the ass, I hope the scummy Mexican drug runner gets it in the back and drops like a sack of shit.
I hope the two officers enjoy their freedom and thanks to George Bush for providing it.
PC14 on March 20, 2009 at 11:26 PM
George W. Bush deserves nothing but scorn for his hand in this. His pandering, fatal attraction realtionship with the Mexican gov’t was behind this. Unfortunately there remains too many Transnational Progressives like Bush 43 who continue to control and steer the GOP which is why it will continue to lose ground come election time. DD
Darvin Dowdy on March 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM
And this is my obligatory single digit to the puerile pundit.
Christine on March 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM
This just in:
Peter Finch will return from the dead to play Glenn Beck in the biopic.
/sarc
Percy_Peabody on March 21, 2009 at 12:18 AM
I signed the petition and wrote a letter to Bush on behalf of Ramos and Compean and I am happy they are home. I would like to thank them both for all they have done to protect the country I love not only in their efforts to protect America’s borders from illegal invaders but for putting on a US military uniform.
Dollayo on March 21, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Two men, wrongly convicted with ZERO evidence by Johnny Sutton who purposely lied to Congress who has had numerous complaints filed against him by the D.E.A.
Exactly what court should convict anyone on the SOLE testimony of Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, who was arrested entering ARIZONA, with a bullet hole in his buttox, three months after he was alledgedly shot…no forensic evidence, no proof WHAT-SO-EVER that either Compean nor Ramos shot him. ZERO EVIDENCE, yet Sutton is NEVER charged with perjury to Congress and every complaint by the D.E.A. has been ignored.
Allah, start using facts and doing your homework and stop threatening to ban people who prove you wrong or are you going to call John Walsh a liar now?
http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=1369
nelsonknows on March 21, 2009 at 1:09 AM
I find this whole thing intriguing. How is it our government knew the drug dealer was shot when he fled across the border? Doesn’t the drug dealer have a family member or friend of a family member in BP?
Interesting how Chertoff and other HLS officials were using illegals.
Funny how Roger Barnett gets interveiwed in 2004 (you can find it online) and talks about how he can catch illegals with just the force of his voice and no gun or gun holstered. How he talks about the money game with BP and government officials. Then after Ramos & Compean, the Mexican Legal Defense starts suing Barnett as a scare tactic and eventually he ends up getting fined. You ever read the transcripts? Sounds like what car accident victims say when trying to get a few bucks off of insurance companies.
Then you start hearing about AZ being the state with the highest per capita kidnap rate. That it’s because drug dealers from Mexico are taking them for ransom. Then I start thinking, yeah, these BP agents are really, really bad guys.
Sultry Beauty on March 21, 2009 at 6:03 AM
McCarthy was the “Bad Guy” in this episode. His arrogant North East lawyer’s view was full of lies and inaccuracies. Logical enough since he took the side of Johnny Sutton who lied several times before Congress about the evidence against R&C. He admitted he perjured himself but, of course, there are no consequences for the tassle loafer class.
It’s old news. AP refuses to get in the mud with plain folks like R&C and the millions of right wing whackos that want the f’g drug dealers shot every time they stick their butts over the border.
One thing more… R&C and their supporters deserve recognition for their refusal to make a racial issue out of this incident. They’re too true blue American to push it but I will. The government knew what was in store for them when they put them into the general prison population. The Feds wanted them beaten as much as the Mexican Mafia goons that did it. Sutton and the ICE administrators that went along with this fraud could have been made out as racists but the low class right wing fanatics siding with R&C think justice should stand on its own. They played it straight and by the rules. Like real Americans. God Bless Them All.
rcl on March 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Here’s a thought- When a border agent yells “Stop or I’ll shoot!”
Believe’em. And STOP.
ExTex on March 21, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Maybe our country would be a safer place if more foreign drug dealers were fired upon by our law enforcement personnel? Nah, that’s just crazy talk…
Wyznowski on March 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM
http://www.americanpatrol.com/RECONQUISTA/NUNEZ-FABIAN/UnionCdGreenCd000800Nunez.html
RealDemocrat on March 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM
These two guys are heroes and Bush,l by failing to protect them in the first place, are the reason that they got railroaded by a politically correct justice system.Only the German Gestapo could have held a more unfair trial. I am a Libertarian and not a Republican and the main reasons are 1. Republican cowardice when faced with politically correct pressure to crucify innocents (whether it be hero soldiers, hero policemen or hero border guards.) 2. Bush’s insanity in not protecting our Mexican border. 3 Bush instigated the original corporate bailouts which Obama compounded exponentially. 4 McCain ran a campaign as if he didn’t want to hurt Obama’s “delicate feelings” and as a result our country, which is heading into possibly irreversible bankruptcy is now kissing Iran’s derriere. (Obama to Iran: “We apoligize for a past mistreatment of you but now we’ll be obsequious”. Iran to Obama “Go to Hell, stupid.”)
MaiDee on March 21, 2009 at 3:34 PM
PS mark my words. Another border war hero Sheriff Joe Arpaio will be railroaded into prison before Obama’s term is up.
MaiDee on March 21, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Over MY dead body and I wouldn’t be particularly quick to take that bet if I were you.
nelsonknows on March 21, 2009 at 5:48 PM
DaveS,
You are woefully misinformed on this case. Read the transcripts, read the myriad articles that cover the case.
1) The most common mistake people make, including AllaPundit, is that the slimeball was unarmed. It’s his word versus the agents. WHY are we trusting this criminal more than our own agents? There was a waiting getaway car on the Mexican side. There is no way to prove that there was, or was not a gun. But, the medical report in the transcript specifies that the angle of the bullet entry is consistent with hitting a man turning back toward the agents.
2) The agent’s senior officers arrived on the scene and witnessed the aftermath. They were informed via their own eyes as well as verbally from all present.
3) The charge of firing their weapon should not have been used in this case, there was a legal precident that was thrown out. Gun carrying officers are SUPPOSED to use their damned guns.
4) The jury was not allowed vital evidence such as the second drug delivery. AND, according to Johnny Sutton, the jury was not aware that the gun firing charge carried a mandatory 10-yr sentence. They probably would have changed their mind if they knew, since that charge made no sense and was far too severe for the situation.
5) Our own Congress lied about these men and convicted them before they were even tried. Remember the “go out and shoot us some Mexicans? comment? These two agents are Mexican for crying out loud, how much sense does THAT make.
I live in South Texas. I suggest anyone that thinks that Ramos/Compean deserved their sentences come down to the border and see what it is like. Have you ever been in a high-speed chase? Have you ever been in a fight with someone that you thought might be armed? People are judging these men for a decision they made in the heat of battle WHILE DEFENDING OUR GOD DAMNED BORDERS!
Some perspective, please. Don’t make me break out the stats of how many people are killed, raped or injured by ILLEGAL aliens like the slimeball that Ramos/Compean shot in the ass.
cannonball on March 21, 2009 at 7:50 PM
As to the softballness of the interview, the agents have a shitload of gag orders all over them. They can’t even be in the same room together or talk to each other. I tell ya, this stinks to high heaven… this is all about prosecutorial abuse and politics at its finest.
cannonball on March 21, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Another intriguing thing about this case was the argument by the government to the Latino jury they assembled that the agents shouldn’t have even tried to hamper the fleeing felon and should have just allowed him to escape into Mexico based on his racial characteristics.
If the fleeing felon had blond hair and blue eyes, I think the policy would be to assume he is a mass murderer escaping from justice and should be shot before escaping or else the US would be culpable for any crimes that the escapee goes on to commit in Mexico.
There are all kinds of problems with this double standard policy. Racial profiling, due process, and not least of all – that particular racial profile will be the majority racial profile in the US in a few years. Heck, even the agents had the same racial characteristics. If Latinos are allowed to flee to Mexico in the course of a felony, you might as well just make it legal for them to commit acts which are criminal for everyone else.
Buddahpundit on March 21, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Allah…I think you have Becker envy.
seejanemom on March 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Over MY dead body
Well I sincerely hope I am wrong. But if I’m not I’ll send you flowers.
MaiDee on March 21, 2009 at 11:34 PM
WTF is your problem, AP? Can you be any more condescending? And it’s not just the “obligatory” tag – it’s your entire frickin’ attitude. Grow the f*** up. If you don’t like Beck, then don’t post ANYTHING about his show. Jesus, you are shallow.
MsUnderestimated on March 22, 2009 at 5:49 AM
Allahpundit seems more interested in showing how open-minded he is about the plight of the illegal immigrant drug runner, rather than that of our border patrol agents. What must be made clear is that we are where Rome was prior to it’s precipitous downward spiral; we are allowing millions of illegals to stream across our border (many toting loads of drugs with them) and to add insult to injury we are giving them every social benefit and letting them buy homes here.
We can all get that fuzzy (Liberal) feeling at times, but it is best that when we start to begin to write those ideals to just stop and consider how ridiculous a position we are taking.
Ramos and Compean were intended to be a message to all Border patrol agents; namely, “If you get too good at your jobs we will get you”
darkmetal on March 23, 2009 at 6:29 AM
Anyone who has faith in the legal system after the O.J. Simpson trail must rest squarely in the middle Barack Obama’s power base or near the middle of John McCain’s.
It’s long past time to move our country away from these two losers.
Creative legal interpretations, such as using a law written to prosecute armed felons against the law officers who are supposed to catch them, are straight out of the Left Wing playbook.
We dont’ need to pile on.
Stepan on March 23, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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