Kundra back on job, White House dodging; Update: WH finally responds! Update: Missing evidence?
posted at 8:19 am on March 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Vivek Kundra has returned to his post as CIO of the Obama administration. The New York Times reports on both his “quiet” reinstatement and the fact that the White House is finally acknowledging his “youthful indiscrection,” the conviction for theft 12 years ago:
Vivek Kundra, who was on leave from his new appointment by President Obama as the federal government’s chief information officer, has been reinstated, the White House said today. …
The reinstatement comes as word was swirling around the Internet about a youthful arrest of Mr. Kundra for a theft involving something of less than $300 in value. Asked if Mr. Kundra had revealed the arrest during the White House vetting process, officials said they would not discuss the process but pointed out that the reinstatement should speak for itself.
Katharine Seelye writes that Kundra’s arrest was “swirling around the Internet,” but apparently didn’t bother to credit the person who reported it … me. A Google search would have put my post at the top of the list before her report, and still shows it to be the original report of Kundra’s conviction for theft. I guess crediting sources is beneath the New York Times’ dignity.
Of course, I could be too hard on her. Seelye quite obviously heard this from White House press flack Nick Shapiro, who told her about it while trying to spin the issue:
Nick Shapiro, a White House spokesman, said tonight: “Thirteen years ago, Vivek committed a youthful indiscretion. He performed community service and we are satisfied that he fully resolved the matter.”
So let me tell you about why Nick Shapiro called Seelye. I called the White House every day this week trying to get a response from the White House about Kundra. On Monday and Tuesday, their press office promised to get back to me. Yesterday morning, I asked them for the contact information for the responsible party, and they gave me Nick Shapiro’s name and e-mail address, nshapiro@who.eop.gov. I sent him a message immediately and waited for a response, but he has yet to answer my e-mail. This was the message I sent Shapiro at 9:18 am ET in its entirety:
Nick,
Josh Gerstein from Politico noted in an update on his blog that Vivek Kundra has ended his leave of absence following the raid on the DC CTO office last week and is back to work in the White House. Can you confirm that?
Also, I have called the press office twice to get a reaction to Kundra’s 1997 conviction for misdemeanor theft, reported by me and confirmed by the Washington City Paper. Does the White House have a statement on that?
Much appreciated,
That’s it. I sent a professional and friendly request in order to allow the White House to have its say on a post that was actually not terribly critical about the arrest and conviction. That’s the professional thing to do. How did Shapiro react? He ran like a schoolgirl to his friends at the Paper of Record so they could spin it for him.
Fortunately, friends at Business Insider knew to tip me off that the story had advanced. Eric Krangel picked up on the “youthful indiscretion” spin, and found out what Kundra did to get arrested in the first place, a topic that apparently didn’t interest the Times:
We’ve been wondering what happened with ‘America’s CIO’ Vivek Kundra’s 1997 misdemeanor theft conviction, the one the White House dismissed as “youthful indiscretion.”
Now we know: Vivek shopflited four shirts, worth $134 combined. From J.C. Penney.
At an average of $33.50 a pop, they weren’t even nice shirts, even in 1996 dollars. (The crime was 1996, the conviction 1997.)
And then, when Vivek got caught, he ran for it. He didn’t get away.
Krangel rightly credits the AP for getting the details, although the AP also didn’t note that Hot Air was the first to report the conviction — but the AP has a long history of failing to credit people.
My friend Kevin McCullough wondered on Monday’s show how no one else but a man who tried to run off with four dress shirts 13 years ago could be qualified to run an important government office. At 22, does that still count as a “youthful indiscretion”? I don’t know, but I’m beginning to believe that the entire White House is staffed by goofballs.
Update: I didn’t realize that part of this post got cut off. I’ve fixed it now.
Update II: Nick Shapiro finally got back to me at 9:35 am ET:
Hi Ed,
Sorry for my delay, I was travelling to California yesterday and missed your email.
On your first question, yes, Mr. Kundra has been informed that he is neither a subject nor a target of the investigation and has been reinstated.
On your second question, here is a statement you can use.
“Thirteen years ago Vivek committed a youthful indiscretion. He performed community service, and we are satisfied that he fully resolved the matter.”
Nick
Gee, I guess they must have missed my phone calls on Monday and Tuesday, too. What a coincidence that he happened to finally respond 80 minutes after I posted this.
Update III: HA reader J.B. points out this interesting nugget from the Washington Post:
It could not immediately be learned from court records what Kundra stole. Gary Cranford, supervisor at the Maryland District Court records center in Annapolis, Md., said the paper case file, which would contain such details, was not in the box that was supposed to contain it. Neither Cranford nor court officials in Rockville were able to locate the file Tuesday.
How … convenient. And the Post didn’t mention where the first report of the conviction came, either. Wasn’t this the same newspaper that had a columnist crabbing about how bloggers don’t report on the very day I posted about Kundra’s theft conviction?
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In 2009 dollars, you can get a very, very nice solid-color no-iron pinpoint from Land’s End at a very reasonable $39.50.
My husband is an attorney and wears them all the time.
BigD on March 19, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I would say that 22yo would still be considered youthful by today’s standards. With our society’s fixation on perpetual youth, the real question is did he ever grow up? I know people 30 and 40yo still caught in their youth.
Long gone are the statesmen in their TEENS. And yet we think we’re so smart and so evolved. How blinded and ignorant we are.
PrincipledPilgrim on March 19, 2009 at 8:41 AM
On a odd note I like that you use the old Captain’s Quarters slogan at the end of your e-mails.
I like your work at hot air but I really miss the old blog, particularly the ship banners.
Can you throw us a bone now and again with some of the graphics?
petertheslow on March 19, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Ah what the heck . . . just another bum of weak character and personal morals among an administration of similar lunatics.
rplat on March 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM
Corrupt thugs, goofballs, and a teleprompter running the show; great!
Keemo on March 19, 2009 at 8:45 AM
The NYTimes lost its dignity long ago.
rbj on March 19, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Who knows what Kundra will try to shoplift now that he has his hands full in the cookie jar. And he knows he can cover his tracks.
“America’s CIO.” What a joke, this two-bit petty thief. He must be embarrassed to be around real crooks, like Geithner.
av8tr on March 19, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Another thief joins the team. Should feel right at home.
PaddyJ on March 19, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Another distraction from the Messiah’s efforts to bring us to socialism.
flytier on March 19, 2009 at 8:48 AM
What is one more criminal in Washington in the scheme of things today? Hardly worth mentioning, IMHO.
Birds of a feather …
DannoJyd on March 19, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Looks like Kundra’s back from the same African safari Rahm Emanuel took in January.
PatMac on March 19, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Asked if Mr. Kundra had revealed the arrest during the White House vetting process, officials said they would not discuss the process but pointed out that the reinstatement should speak for itself.
It speaks volumes; the administration had to sneak this thief in the back door during the night with a hood over his face.
Bishop on March 19, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you . . .
Cops. Filmed on location in Washington.
The Obama Administration – Keepin’ it real, y’all.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 8:50 AM
At least Hitler picked a few intellectuals for his staff, architects like Speers, etc.
Obama likes the street thugs. Ominous.
jeff_from_mpls on March 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM
This was the time he was CAUGHT. How many other acts of’youthful indescretion’ did he carry out?
thomasaur on March 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Hiding the shirts behind the Gray Lady’s skirts.
Blackacre on March 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Geez, I don’t even know what to think about these guys anymore. If I didn’t have to temper my opinion with the knowledge that Keith Olbermann would excoriate a Bush Administration official for similar behavior, I guess I’d pass it off as something to forgive. I loved President Bush and completely forgave the October Surprise DUI crap the media pulled.
Bigger fish to fry in this administration.
hawkdriver on March 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM
In fairness, Ed, this is a bit petty. It was a misdemeanor conviction 13 years ago. He paid his debt to society and is entitled to move on. There is no evidence that he has reoffended in the 13 years since the conviction.
George Bush almost lost the 2000 election because the Democrats ran a story about a DUI conviction Bush had 20 years earlier that had been expunged. It was wrong when the Democrats did it to Bush and it’s wrong here, too. Petty “gotcha” politics is unbecoming.
Outlander on March 19, 2009 at 8:53 AM
I don’t think this is going to be the story we want to focus on in 2012.
Even though I don’t buy the “youthful indiscretion” line, hawkdriver is right, bigger fish to fry.
myrenovations on March 19, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Great. Now I have to rethink my entire wardrobe. Thanks Ed.
FuriousAmerican on March 19, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Ever so tolerant in PC flavored discretionary criticism, goofballs? Goofball is how the Left spun GWB. Well, proof’s in the Obama pudding as to Mr. Malleable’s foot fitting that goofball shoe.
Casting the Pinocchio Obama Presidency, NOT via Disney PC revisionism, is still too kind to properly illustrate his pack of rats. Unreformed juvenile delinquents, political mafia and domestic terrorists.
The plague ensues. Russia has its 2 year old contract with Iran to fulfill delivery of missiles to protect Iran’s nuclear military program. Putin/Medvedev waited for Bush to leave office so that they could stick it to us via Obama Nada. Sh*ts hitting the fan.
All of the loudmouth rhetoric on AIG bonus vs. foreign bank pay-offs and whatever else blah-blah-blah pimple picking prevents people from focusing on reality: what’s in our domestic Pelosi-Obama Trojan Horse Omnibus leaving us all run under the wheels of injustice, and ALL the intrigues of current international disruptions.
Lent, sackcloth and ashes.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM
He was not too smart at at a youthful 22. If he’s was so broke, he could have shopped at GoodWill instead.
The White House Party-ers from Chicago don’t register this on their crime blip screen.
qestout on March 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Not to nitpick, but a hell of a lot more folks have driven drunk than walked into Old Navy and said, “hey, I think I’ll steal someone else’s property.”
The drunk college student doesn’t think he’s drunk, he just wants to get back to the frat house. The thief knows he’s a thief, he just wants someone else’s property, and screw you if you say he can’t have it.
There are definitely two Americas, two ways of thinking about things you’re “entitled” to.
jeff_from_mpls on March 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM
That’ll be the tagline for the entire Obama administration: youthful indiscretion.
beatcanvas on March 19, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Perhaps not, but like in a Boxing match going for the knockout in Round 1 is not wise. This is a body blow and we need to punish the body early and often. This won’t be what finishes them off , but we must be relentless in our attacks. We must pound them continually wherever we find an opening and not let up. When the drop their hands to cover their ribs we pound their head. This is what they have done and it is successful.
thomasaur on March 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM
I agree if you’re saying we can’t win with a “gotcha.”
But it’s fair game to point out that this administration believes it is superior to its citizens.
They are supposed to be servants, not masters. Obama is enacting a different model than what we’ve had in the past.
jeff_from_mpls on March 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM
I disagree that this isn’t worth mentioning as it is more proof of how Barack includes the criminal element in his government. Tax cheats, theives, rapists, abortionists, facists, liars … this IS todays Democrat Party.
DannoJyd on March 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM
And it will probably lead to a Grown-up Insurrection, with any luck at all.
thomasaur on March 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM
It’s not run by goofballs, Ed. It is run by some smart and very smart people, just not the kind of smart people you’d want to invite into your living room.
You want to think Obama is incompetent because he’s not doing what a reasonable man thinks he should be doing, based on common sense and standards for the profession and past practice in the position.
McCullough asks a very good question. With a different slant, what special qualifications and experience does Kundra have to advance Obama’s plans. Obviously, Obama and his vetters have decided that Kundra is the man they need.
As a side note, I’m quickly coming to the conclusion that Obama has pretty much staffed all those Treasury positions that are supposedly empty. He just sidestepped the process and is running it via the WH. Geithner, whether he knows it or not, is just the frontman.
Dusty on March 19, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Come on, Ed. It’s hardly news these days that the NYT has no integrity regarding sources. They run on illegitimate source tips, as well as presume to have discovered accurate news stories prepared and served to them on a silver platter.
Big fish eat little fish. Poison the NYT from within with stronger affect than from the outside if it’s credit you need.
The Kundra story is definitely worth telling. Readers can put it into the arsenal for future reference. It is what it is, no more or less. Kundra was an adult stealing clothing that he could afford to pay for, but refused to pay for by choice. Kundra was not a young teenager on dare by thugs he wanted to impress when he got caught, though most likely BEFOREHAND he was. Kundra is given to thieving, and his direct staff have been caught stealing. That is definitely a story to know.
As per Bush, he quit drinking and was a sober POTUS. Bush did not hire drunks and required the highest integrity of his staff. Punitive actions befell any who were seen to smear integrity in any way (Scooter Libby, Troops under combat fire, fired upon Border Patrol Agents in pursuit of criminals). Bush did not host drunken White House Parties, nor excessive partying and dilly-dallying on the Omnibus road as Obama persists in doing.
There’s no sluffing comparisons between a REAL President of the United States and a FRAUD, seen through their appointments or from the Oval Office itself.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Followed the link to read more. Two things: I love how they wonder if it could have “just” been, say, a fraternity prank. I’m sorry. Would that make it excusable? And then to gratuitously dump on JC Penney clothes. WTF? Who are these sniveling elitists? I suppose if he had shoplifted at Wal-Mart it would have been an even greater “crime of fashion” to these putzes.
I feel my fists tightening by the day with these guys.
Sugar Land on March 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Lands End sells really good dress shirts for $29.50. Except they’re called “Hyde Park.” Which I never thought about till now.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on March 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM
And the federal raid on his business entity is irrelevant too, right?
BuckeyeSam on March 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM
When the other guy is sucker punching you, kicking you in the groin, sticking his fingers in your eye after he throws dust in them, you have two choices.
You can fight “fair”.
Or you can fight dirty and have a chance at winning.
If the media wasn’t completely on the Democrat’s side, sure, fighting fair and being above it all might work.
But the media is like the wrestling referee who is arguing with the bad guy’s manager, while the bad guy slams the folding chair over the good guy’s head.
We get no points in the media for fighting fair and the media gleefully joins in when Democrat hacks lie, cheat and slander Republicans.
The Donkey deserves a two-by-four across the snout to the point he’s spitting out his teeth. This is a wiffle ball compared to what Democrats deserve.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 9:21 AM
At twenty-two years old, your “Youthful Indiscretion” clock has run out. A twenty-two year old shoplifting is stealing, plain and simple. It is not a prank. It is not a dare. It is taking something that belongs to somebody else simply because you want it, and you don’t want to pay.
Twenty Two is fully old enough to understand that.
gridlock2 on March 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Yep, those are the traditional oxfords. My hub likes the pinpoints better. Either way, the shirts a great deal and they wear forever.
BigD on March 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Most cops will tell you that the small crimes usually leads to bigger crimes if the crooks don’t learn from their mistakes. But The One’s gang is taking the “shady side” of the Clintons and this should be deeply disturbing to most Americans. On a side note Blago was and is an idiot. If he had kept his mouth shut there is no telling where he and his wife could be with this cabal now.
Dire Straits on March 19, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Frankly, as far as I’m concerned, the shoplifting bust is enough to disqualify this guy from a position of trust. As I said above, his Youthful Indiscretion clock had run out long before his 22nd birthday. At 22, he’s a big boy.
But the problems in his DC office concern me much more. This shoplifting thing is beginning to look like an easily dismissed distraction, which is drawing us away from the real story.
gridlock2 on March 19, 2009 at 9:25 AM
If this was the only transgression of this administration, I would let it go…however, it seems this is a pattern, choosing people with suspect backgrounds, one after another.
It is a piece of a puzzle that is being pieced together, and the picture isn’t pretty…
right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM
It’s curious you need a crook for CIO, whatever that is …
All TOTUS has is crooks and liars for friends.
tarpon on March 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Do you mean that everyone who has committed a major crime, first committed a lessor crime…amazing Sherlock.
And you think the corollary is that everyone who commits a minor crime, continues onto a larger crime?
Sorry, the stats are just to skewed…habitual breakers of the law escalate…but I would bet any amount of money that one indiscretion, does not amount to “escalation”.
Otherwise, every kid would be in jail…
right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Obama’s $500,000 book bonanza
Deal reached 5 days before he took office
Jim McElhatton and Christina Bellantoni, THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Thursday, March 19, 2009
EXCLUSIVE:
As he empathized with recession-weary Americans, President Obama arranged in the days just before he took office to secure a $500,000 advance for a children’s book project, a disclosure report shows.
The terms of the book deal were disclosed in a Senate financial disclosure report filed Tuesday.
Change & Hope
Keemo on March 19, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Youthful indiscretion, Peter Pan, and refusing maturity.
Youth love Peter Pan until youth age and face reality.
Fascism in Italy and Germany (and America) following WWI swept into power via MATURE AND HARD WORKING PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE IN YEARS. They all worked for what they got, period, no sluffing tolerated. Whereas these days, young adults throughout their 20s-30s ages are very much DEPENDENTS. In Italy, most don’t marry and still live at home with their parents, for example. In America, 40% of new births are out of wedlock. Someone else can post the statistical figure of the population (including ILLEGALS) residing in America on welfare. It’s a doomed existence, DEPENDENCY and Socialism. Even with Socialism removing our Constitutional Government, the population today behind it are all bloodsuckers, not producers of necessities. There’s no “efficiency” that Obama’s Socialism brings on his wings.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 9:32 AM
If by “goofballs” you mean liars, frauds, cheats, and thieves, then I completely agree with you.
AZCoyote on March 19, 2009 at 9:34 AM
No, the federal raid is very serious and unless it can be adequately explained (which it can’t), should be disqualifying.
Right–but the Democrats don’t resort to petty attacks unless they’ve got nothing better. We do; Obama’s appointees tend to either be radical leftists, tax cheats, incompetent, or some mixture of the above. So focus on the attacks that work, rather than petty stuff. I think the Democrats employed your mentality, for instance, when they hammered Joe The Plumber over a $1,300 tax lien. It famously blew up in their faces, resulting in one of the Ohio governor’s appointees getting fired and a helluva lot of people feeling sympathetic for JTP.
Outlander on March 19, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Keemo,
Nothing like more propaganda to force feed on obese children designed to remain dependent forever. Remember, too, that all children literature written prior to X-date (1970s?) to be removed from library shelves and from donation book store shelves. Someone can refresh that determination made this year. Pathetic. Not only enforce propaganda curriculum but deny access to literature and records to the contrary. There can only be The One.
Soylent Green Forever
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Agreed Mav… I can’t believe what we are watching before our eyes. Really, it’s unbelievable. This post is for the getalife’s that roam these waters…
I don’t believe Barack Obama is an idiot. Truly, I don’t. And yet, whenever he talks without a teleprompter, he makes you wonder. This verbal excursion is from today’s “townhall,” conducted in California before a cheering throng of, no doubt, carefully selected fans:
The same is true with AIG. It was the right thing to do to step in. Here’s the problem. It’s almost like they’ve got — they’ve got a bomb strapped to them and they’ve got their hand on the trigger. You don’t want them to blow up. But you’ve got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger.
If you’re a Democrat, maybe that reassures you that our President knows more about the economy than the average 9th grader. On the bright side, though, at least Edward Liddy knows he won’t be waterboarded! (powerline)
Keemo on March 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM
I don’t recall that and nothing ever blows up in the Democrat’s face when it comes to the media.
If a Democrat does something wrong, the media shifts to the “they all do it” line, so they can bring up Republicans who have done anything similar.
Also, Joe the Plumber was a private citizen. What is it about Democrats attacking private citizens, anyway?
Whereas this guy is going to be the CIO for the Obama Administration. One of the biggest issues with “America’s CIO” is network security.
How can his subordinates respect a guy, when they now have a mental picture of him sprinting out of a store with three stolen shirts?
I say, dog him until he resigns out of disgust. There are plenty of more capable people out there who can do this job.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM
You may have a valid point so let me clarify… Most criminal don’t start their crime careers by committing Felonies. They start small and work their way up. This is one reason the National Fingerprint system and Forensic Evidence are so successful.Also everyone makes mistakes and deserve second chances. As for myself, If I would have got caught stealing (even a T-shirt) in my youth the law would have not been my biggest problem. My biggest problem would have been the Hell my father would have given me. The point where I do disagree with you is that every kid would not be in jail because every kid does not commit crimes.
Dire Straits on March 19, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Just more criminals associated with the Obama administration.
Obama is soaking in them.
saiga on March 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM
So, by these parameters, Obama’s youthful indiscretion, (snorting federally illegal substance’s) sets the bar high enough to allow his administration to be filled with rehabilitated “leadership”?? Got it!
(yeah,but Booooosh did it too…in 5-4-3-2….which will be more of an excuse than an argument)
Rovin on March 19, 2009 at 9:54 AM
This clown wouldn’t get hired at my employer for something like this…
And I’m sorry — 22 does not constitute “youthful indiscretion.” People are college graduates at 22.
D2Boston on March 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Sugar Land
I wholeheartedly agree. Ed was out of order, possibly self deprecating, possibly schmoozing the Pajamagang Achilles Heel envious of sophistry for its own selfish sake. Either way, wrong.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM
That aint no lie. Who knows, maybe he has had an epiphiny sense then and has seen the light.
Does he now have federal dollars to manage?
saiga on March 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I didn’t write that; that’s why it’s block-quoted. It’s from Business Insider’s article.
Ed Morrissey on March 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM
That’s an easy one. When dealing with other agencies, he let’s them do what they think best. That frees him to do what Obama hired him to do. I just wish I knew what that was.
Dusty on March 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Attila and BigD
BTW
JC Penney’s Men’s Department sells the same merchandise as all those retailers; Dillards charging more for the same items. Furthermore, Penney brand men’s underwear is some of the best cotton shorts and briefs on the market–soft elastic, good cotton threaded seams (not nylon cutting through your flesh) and thick enough threads and thread count to wear very well. Regarding socks, WalMart’s Gold-Toe white cotton men’s socks are much more reliable a purchase than the Gold-Toe socks sold at Macy’s or any dept. store. The golden seamed white cotton crew socks at WalMart are thicker and predictably the same length, rather than the longer and shorter by an inch or two packages from Macy’s, etc.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Attila and
While we’re at it, let me put in a plug for Land’s End men’s undershirts. Super soft, don’t shrink. I’ve been known to pinch one or two from my husband’s drawer to wear as a nightshirt. A pack of three at $19.50 is hard to beat.
The regular, casual wear Ts are great, too.
BigD on March 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Obama doesn’t dare to hire people of great competence and intellect . . . they’d blow his cover.
rplat on March 19, 2009 at 10:11 AM
9:58
My wrong, Ed. You’re right. That comment was out of your character, and I was obviously confused to misunderstand. I apologize.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Clout baby, CLOUT!
hawkdriver on March 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM
If he murdered someone at age 23, he’d be considered an adult. So, he’s an adult when he shoplifted. Trashy people shoplift.
So, we have a petty thief as Chief Info Officer. Nice. Really nice.
Oink on March 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM
So,Hopey/Changeys Roman Temple Pillar of Perpetual
Hope and NeverEnding Change Ministry of Dishonest
and MisInformation Ministry is back to being fully
operational!
Absolutely freaggin Outstanding!!!
canopfor on March 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM
BigD
Good tips.
Just no j.crew plugs, folks, regardless.
maverick muse on March 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Tax cheats……check
Thief………..check
Hmmmm…… What’s left?
Are they going to offer Donte Stallworth a position in the administration?
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Ed,
Check your server logs to see if, and when, a GOV IP address visited HA.
BobMbx on March 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Thats what I was wondering as well. Trying to take FOUR shirts is not the act of a first timer… its the act of someone who has been succesful in the past, and pushes the envelope.
Folks, this guy is the CIO of the White House, which means he is tied into every secure system we have. Homeland Sec? DOD? CIA? All of it runs through computers, and all is accesable to the CIO, as he is in CHARGE of security.
This guys past, and past associations, are dodgy at best… how in the world is this guy getting a security clearance?
Romeo13 on March 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Can we use this statement regarding Obama’s drug use?
FIFY
gatorboy on March 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM
But they do…most every kid steals from his sister or brother, lies to his/her teacher, ditches school, cheats on a test.
You would be shocked at how many kids have “stolen” candy or gum from a store.
It is part of growing up, you learn your “yes’s” from your “no’s”. And they learn guilt and when caught, retribution and shame (if you have proper parental oversight).
Now what he did was more extreme…however, most every person I have ever dealt with has had some skeleton in the closet…did you have sex and not tell your parents? A little drink when under age?
What concerns me, with this guy, is that he fits a pattern that is all to common in Obama’s administration…if you have goals that are similar to him, Obama and friends overlook other significant signals. If you are “with him”, then he doesn’t care if you cheat on taxes, sleep with the head of Fannie Mae (why does that crack me up, Frank sleeping with the head of Fannie Mae, I picture some drag queen named Fannie Mae), or that he has stolen as youth, or has defrauded the govt. like his friend from Detroit.
This single incident is insignificant…until you piece it together will all the others with similar stories…it is the pattern, not the one incident.
right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I was laughing because I don’t believe I’ve ever paid $34 for a dress shirt in my life. I own exactly four of them, and I wear them only when the First Mate makes me.
Ed Morrissey on March 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Did I just log onto OVC?
right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Rule number 1 of Incompetent Leadership: Never hire anyone smarter than you.
Following this rule, the bar for competence in the Obama Administration is in the subterranean realm.
BobMbx on March 19, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Careful Ed! Now you’re on the Enemies List!
They are watching…
juanito on March 19, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Good Points!!
Dire Straits on March 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Exactly and there are also guys leading platoons in Iraq at 22.
The bar for this administration is so low a mosquito can skip over it.
How hard is it to find a competent CIO who isn’t a shirt thief?
I can think of 10 guys I’ve worked with in DC who could run rings around this guy and they never ran from a store with the cops in hot pursuit.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 10:31 AM
I beg to differ. Like any other IT guy I’ve ever known, all he’s going to do is keep MS Windows updated, and back-up the WH servers at the most in-opportune time, and send out threatening emails to WH staffers to make sure they empty their Inbox otherwise they’ll exceed the limit and not be able to send or receive email. This, of course, has National Security implications.
Just suppose that Big O’s inbox is full when the 3am email comes in……
BobMbx on March 19, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Isn’t that when he’ll be taping Leno?
I guess Hillary really will be the one answering those 3 AM calls/e-mails.
Bammy Davis Jr. has to talk directly to his peeps.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I was laughing because I don’t believe I’ve ever paid $34 for a dress shirt in my life. I own exactly four of them, and I wear them only when the First Mate makes me.
Ed Morrissey on March 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Me too, though I have dozens of Steelers shirts, sweatshirts, jerseys, tanks and hoodies which are carefully folded and stored in a separate, humidity and dust controlled section of my closet.
Bishop on March 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Kundra’s teen troubles don’t concern me. What concerns me is it being used to distract people from the serious investigation from where he just left. He was CTO at DC. Two people directly under him (one went into private biz and ended up with multimillion dollar contract from DC), were caught billing for fake employees and bribery. Kundra is dirty or a complete and total incompetent to sign off on those ghost employees. Knowing DC IT shennanigans, I say the odds are he’s dirty. Knowing most of Obama’s picks so far are totally tainted or can’t pay their taxes, I would say odds are Kundra’s dirty. I’m sure he’ll get a free pass or we’ll be distracted off course with more inane and irrelevantg info like his teen troubles.
jusgottabeme on March 19, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Yeah, the Steeler polo I bought after Super Bowl XL was probably the most expensive shirt I’ve ever owned.
For this Super Bowl win, I bought the most expensive t-shirt I’ve ever owned, but it’s worth it because it reads “Six-Burgh”!
The Cowboys fans down here are chewing on that, beat them to four and beat them to six.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Wow, I like that name. Even better than “Urkel”.
Del Dolemonte on March 19, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Ed and others like him (such as Michael Yon) are true second order sources of data (the first order sources being court records, legislative records, and witnessed events). If they weren’t doing their jobs, the first order sources would never come to light and be available for third order consumers (such as us blog readers and the New York Times) to quote and analyse.
It’s typical of new paper reporters to hide where they got their “scoops”. They only credit journalistic sources, and it’s obvious that print media reporters at this point don’t consider bloggers like Ed to be journalistic sources.
unclesmrgol on March 19, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Ditto for Kundra. I’m betting he’s got a whole passel of stealers shirts in his closet.
unclesmrgol on March 19, 2009 at 10:46 AM
And Bammy Davis Jr. has his own “rat pack” as well, except instead of Frank Sinatra, we get to enjoy the smooth croonings of Tim Geithner.
Joe Biden’s kind of the Dean Martin of the crew. Lovable, stumbling drunk.
This is kind of like following up Caddyshack I with Caddyshack II.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Re Update III: Cover up? Could be!
DannoJyd on March 19, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I’ll buy that.
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Then since we agree that 23 is too youthful to make an adult decision about stealing,can we next agree that the voting age for todays youth is far too low based on their maturity level and raise it to say,35 or 40?
oldernwiser on March 19, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Wow, what a scoop.
Geez.
getalife on March 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Regarding Update III: Has anyone seen Sandy Berger?
AubieJon on March 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM
LOL… uh… MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer), CCNA… and 30 years working in both Military and Civilian IT.
Who in the heck do you think is in charge of security? Yes, you have a security guy, usually, but who does HE work for? Who HIRES HIM?
And I might add, the whole reason this came to light is one of his EMPLOYEES, that HE CHOSE, got caught in a bribery scheme.
Oh, and give the the passwords needed to run your mail system? They are ADMIN accounts… and in most places they do not break out the security with enough granularity to where those Mail Admins do not have at least some standard Admin priveleges…
And besides… every CIO I’ve ever worked with had Admin privilveges on his account… so he can oversee the network.
Romeo13 on March 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM
22 is not a youth. 22 years old is an adult who knows the difference between right and wrong and should be held accountable for what he has done. If we can convict a 12 year old for murder as an adult, we can hold a 22 year old thief accountable as an adult. But what more should we expect from hope and change when he comes from Chicago!
flytier on March 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Well, since the official police records are “missing” maybe that helped to get the clearance.
They scrubbed that info in record time. I fear that there will be nothing left untouched in Obama’s past relating to school records, passport, BC…. Which is exactly why they have been prolonging all these legal battles. It really sucks.
mrsmwp on March 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM
In Chicago, anyone who pays full price for a shirt is an idiot.
unclesmrgol on March 19, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Many a shirt has been lost in Chicago.
And Mrs. O’Leary’s cow had the right idea.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2009 at 11:42 AM
they should look in the box where obama’s high school records, college records, and birth certificate are kept
runner on March 19, 2009 at 11:43 AM
natural politician! he is a thief!
custer on March 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Good Job Ed. You scooped them all. Smoke them out and wait for the good shot!
portlandon on March 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Nice job, Ed! You’re the best.
petefrt on March 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM
22???!!
My father was married by the time he was 22.
Look, a doing something stupid in your teen years is one thing, but if you haven’t grown up enough to know that stealing is wrong by the time you’re 22…
That’s an adult. I am sick and tired of making excuses for adults who refuse to grow up.
Sackett on March 19, 2009 at 12:07 PM
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