Audio: Mitt Romney on Card Check

posted at 12:17 pm on March 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

In 90 seconds, Mitt Romney manages to run down the devastation that Card Check would wreak on the American economy. And not just during a severe downturn; the reordering of the labor-management-government relationship in this fashion would heavily burden the economy even in the best of times, Romney tells Sean Hannity:

This matches what at least two studies show us. Dr. Anne Layne-Farrar’s study shows that Card Check could cost between 1.5 million and 5.4 million jobs over the next three years, using data in Canada, where Card Check has been employed in various areas.  Separately, UCLA researchers found that FDR’s stimulus package and labor-friendly legislation extended the Depression for seven years longer than necessary.

I’m thinking of that song All In The Family used as its theme, and one of the lines in it.  Mister, we could use a man like Mitt Romney again …

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“For all of you that think that Huckabee supporters don’t like Romney because of his religion…that’s wrong!”

DUDE — sift through nearly ANY thread from January to February of last year …

/eyeroll

Buckaroo on March 19, 2009 at 1:43 PM

I could just scream out loud at anyone who talks about Mitt’s religion. And I don’t want to hear this crap about blaming Huck for Mitt’s loss.

I’m a Fred Head but I can see where Mitt or Huck either one would be doing a MUCH better job than Obama.

Keep your eyes focused forward, will ya?

Oink on March 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 1:28 PM

thanks for saving me the time to type today…all your posts were +1 :)

For the poster who blamed Chuck Norris for Huck, to be fair, Chuck likes the fair tax, and Huck was the only one who was articulating that. I couldn’t vote for Huck though, its personal.

Laura in Maryland on March 19, 2009 at 1:32 PM
I understand. His gun control policy was enough to make me pause, the health care business as well. However, between McCain and Huck, the decision was rather easy for me.

Here is the Romney I would like to see…
Gun Control: Gun control means does he have a steady aim?
Health Care: Tort Reform, loser pays.
Economy: To borrow from Ronald Reagan, the scariest thing to hear is I’m from the government, I here to help. We should cut government welfare 25% across the board.
Abortion: I believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, I don’t believe any judge should legislate from the bench. Right now abortion is the law of the land because the courts declared it. This isn’t constitutional. If we want abortion to be legal, congress needs to pass a veto proof law to make it so.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Eaglesdontflock,

The reason why Romney left the primary is because he saw the handwriting on the wall, he could not win, and he didn’t want to lose any more of his money!!! I didn’t see any support for McCain from Official party ranks then. If you will remember, all the radio & TV pundits were supporting Rommey. If he thought he could win, he would not have needed their support or money. It’s the American people who vote for the winner, not the Washingion insiders.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I don’t care about any candidates religion with the possible exception of Muslim since they have a history of thinking about their religion first instead of the country first. I also would not want a prez who subscribes to the black liberation religion…oh wait.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Romney didn’t give up. He was strongarmed by his own party. I heard he was taken in a back room at CPAC 2008 and told by the old guys in charge of RNC that he should withdraw, or all support within official party ranks would be withdrawn and that no money would come his way if he won the nomination. They had annointed McCain and that was that.

eaglesdontflock on March 19, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Why didn’t they do that with Huck? Romney got out whatever the reason to clear a path for McCain and then instead of getting out ahead of Obama they did nothing. Rove said the Rev. Wright issue should have been taken care of in the Spring.

That said, midterms have to be the priority right now. I think after that we will have a better idea who is in the best position to take out Obama.

msmveritas on March 19, 2009 at 1:50 PM

I keep dumping on Laura but her posts really reveal her true adversion to Romney — and the number one problem she has is not his politics. Claiming that religion has nothing to do with it yet, in almost every post, including a snarky cheap shot, usually inaccurate, at or about Mitt’s religion. No matter what anyone says to defend Huck here, it is also a ploy used by Huck and lots and lots of his supporters. It was used in the primarys and has continued unabated. I really don’t care what someone believes about Mitt, his politics, or his religion. It is just really, really phony to say “it is not about his religion ” and then continue to take the cheap shots.

el rey on March 19, 2009 at 1:52 PM

um, r u forgetting that mitt had illegals working on his yard?

Can you understand how pathetic that would sound in comparison to Barry’s sins??

anniekc on March 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM

anniekc on March 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Especially since he just hired the company, not the illegals personally. Its like getting mad at Sarah Palin for shopping at Walmart, a known illegal employer.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Can you understand how pathetic that would sound in comparison to Barry’s sins??

anniekc on March 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Pathetic or not, Barrys sins will never get their just do thanks to a complicit media. You can guarantee that they will destroy Romney over this especially if he speaks out about amnesty.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 1:58 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 1:43 PM

VFT, for examples regarding a lack of principles allow me to refer you to my 1:34PM post. Read up. Get yourself up to speed. Enjoy.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Haha. Thanks CV.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 2:02 PM

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Of all the issues to pick Romney on, this one is the silliest and only resonates with people who are out to destroy him.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Pathetic or not, Barrys sins will never get their just do thanks to a complicit media. You can guarantee that they will destroy Romney over this especially if he speaks out about amnesty.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Not with nearly 70% of the country against Amnesty and millions of people out of work and millions of illegals working at jobs where wages were depressed because they will work for less.

oddjob1138 on March 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Doesn’t matter to the MSM who regard Repubs as the enemy. Remember when they gave McCain crap cause he couldn’t raise his arms. Nothing is out of bounds with these traitors. Barry could get caught on video throwing 2nd graders into Lake Michigan, and I will guarantee someone in the media will try to spin it.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM

oddjob1138 on March 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM

I understand what you mean and I agree. I’m just saying people like Olberdouche and his ilk will run with anything to make conservatives look bad. Sorry glass half-empty guy here.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

I have never taken cheap shots about Mitt’s religion..I support anybody who has good family values. Now I’m a Christian, but that’s doesn’t mean other people are all wrong. Given that, I’m telling you I was on Huckabee sites and nobody ever put down his religion. That’s a excuse made up by the Rombots for him losing. After Mitt’s religion speech early before Iowa, I never read anything in the MSM about Mitt’s religion unless, of course, it was THE excuse for him not winning. The truth is never hard to accept…people he can’t win because he is not trustworthy! This country has to have a President who is trustworthy and not willing to change his principles for anybody or anything! Mitt Romney is not the man now and has never been that man…look at his position changes in Mass alone. He was called a person with no principles by Ted Kennedy went Romney was trying to win the Senate seat against Kennedy. That was a long time ago. He changed his principles to win in Mass.

For you people who think he just needs to change again to be what the American people want..that’s absurd. The American people want somebody who has always believed in what they campaign on.

Mike Huckabee was the only candidate who was asked religion questions on every debate. He didn’t want that…he wanted to discuss issues. So some of you believe he pushed his religion…no people like Hannity always mentioned Huckabee’s past as Pastor to make sure that people wouldn’t vote for him. Look like some of you got fooled by that. He was the only candidate who had 10 1/2 years executive experience as a Governor. He was the best debater, most likeable, authentic candidate for the Republican party nomination in 2008. The Democrats knew he would be somebody who would give Obama trouble because he wasn’t the “rich” Republican candidate who would turn off the American voters. How could Obama tear Huckabee down without alienating a huge segment of the Democratic base?
Is he perfect…no way. But he is by far the best candidate we have to run against Obama and win for 2012. Don’t make the same mistake of choosing McCain last time. People knew he couldn’t debate against Obama and didn’t hae the charismatic personality of Obama. Yet they picked McCain. Mike Huckabee does have the charismatic personality, relates to the people, excellent debater and can use his humor to tear down Obama…then the people won’t say how negative our candidate is, but the point will still be made. Huckabee gets people to listen because he explains things so they understand the issues.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:05 PM

If we run our lives by what the media will say, then we will fail. Plan on the media will be in the tank for Obama and run your campaign accordingly.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

For someone who didn’t want religious questions asked of him, sure was quick to use religion to his advantage.

Huck was certainly charismatic…but I don’t want a snake oil salesman, I want someone with the gonads of Dick Cheney to say it how it is. That will win.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Right. The best thing for any GOP prez candidate is to air their skeletons however slight during the campaign with explicit honesty. That could counter the MSM and appeal to the people since we know that at least 48 million Americans aren’t stupid.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM

This morning on Rush, he played an audio clip of Mein Fuhrer speaking to a group of illegal aliens in Costa Mesa, CA, in which Hussein stated that illegals need to be brought ‘out of the shadows’ so that they could join union and get equal pay.

Rush expanded on this and linked Card Check to what Hussein had said, making the entire thing on huge sh*t sandwich that, as Americans, we are going to have to fight tooth and nail to avoid eating.

madmonkphotog on March 19, 2009 at 2:15 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

To add, while its important to win debates, that isn’t the deciding factor…most Americans don’t pay attention to the debates and keep score based on how well they responded. They do pay attention to what they say…but if you are waiting to make your mind by how well your guy does in the debates, then you’re an idiot.
I care more about the person, and how they carry themselves in various environments…not on a staged circus performance.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Huck lost me when he basically supported amnesty. He also lost me when after he when on his health kick in Ark. he went after smokers. He appears too weak to stand up to others unless it was Mitt.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Case in point, Palin in her debate did well, but lost to SNL.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:19 PM

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM

He lost me when he played the class envy card…everything else was icing on the cake.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM

There are a lot of us Christian right folks in ND and we voted for Romney in the primaries (myself included). I’m not saying that nobody disliked him because of his religion, but many of us are clear thinking and know that we need a good President above all else.

thevastlane on March 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Case in point, Palin in her debate did well, but lost to SNL.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Well that’s because the stupid people think Tina Fey is more relevant than someone running for the 2nd highest office in the land. Man, too bad Fey can’t bang her head while sking instead of someone a little more respected.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:22 PM

It was Mitt Romney who turned against his fellow Republican candidates during the primary. Ever watch the debates..whoever was ahead in the Republican polls, Mitt Romney attacked. None of the Repub candidates liked Mitt Romney and that wasn’t because of his religion or money. It was because he acted like a butthead! He had the most liberal background, but because the Wash elite felt like he maybe could win because of his money, they supported him anyway. How sad that they overlooked the Romneycare in Matt, which by the way has almost bankrupted Mass. Mass has had to have a bailout to even survive thanks to Romney. Yet the Romneybots will give excuses for every reason why he lost…religion, they all ganged up, McCain was the chosen, etc. Give me a break…Romney lost because of who HE IS!!! I also have a lot of links I could give you against Romney, but would anybody read them..probably not. Stay in your fantasy world about Romney and lose the 2012 election again to Obama. Are you ever going to see the whole picture of what Conservatives need, and not make up things about people like Romney? I don’t want to lose again and that’s why I’m telling you more info about Huckabee that you need to know to made an informed decision about who to support.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM

If he continues to reinvent himself (Huck) and stays away from the go along to get along crowd. I’ll take a second look. Man I’ll almost take anyone who can beat Obambi. I’d vote for Rupaul if he/she were the nominee. Just get rid of that idiot occupying 1600 Penn. NOW.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:32 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

VFT, please, I’m begging you to go back to this post:
Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM

It will be to your own benefit to read each link posted. Read them carefully and with an open mind. Honestly, I really don’t care if you do read what I laid out for you. Its your ignorance on the line. I’d just like to know, should I attribute your ignorance to lazyness or blindness? Because, from what I can tell, you’ve just spent too much time paying attention to one campaign’s side of the story.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 2:33 PM

VTF, again. All you need to know is right here:
Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM

*snip*Mike Huckabee was the only candidate who was asked religion questions on every debate. He didn’t want that…he wanted to discuss issues. So some of you believe he pushed his religion…no people like Hannity always mentioned Huckabee’s past as Pastor to make sure that people wouldn’t vote for him. *snip*

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:08 PM

The guy who made a commercial calling himself the “Christian leader,” who asked during the campaign whether Romney believed Satan and Jesus were brothers, who attributed his early win to a “higher power,” and who now says the constitution should be amended to be more in line with God’s law.

It’s kind of hard to believe Huckabee would mind anyone else bringing up his religion.

RightOFLeft on March 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:22 PM

I like Palin, but to be honest, the power of the vice president isn’t much greater than Tina Fey. And given that, since Palin became McCain’s running mate, Obama ran against her, not McCain. Amazing.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Second look at Mitt??

Mike D. on March 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM

The guy who made a commercial calling himself the “Christian leader,” who asked during the campaign whether Romney believed Satan and Jesus were brothers, who attributed his early win to a “higher power,” and who now says the constitution should be amended to be more in line with God’s law.

It’s kind of hard to believe Huckabee would mind anyone else bringing up his religion.

RightOFLeft on March 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM

It really is astonishing to me how blind people like VFT can be. Its almost as if he’s sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling “lalalalallalala I can’t hear you. I have my side of the story and I’m sticking with it no matter what inconvenient facts you lay before me!”

I quit

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 2:35 PM

I agree…sigh. I think I’ll have a drink to stop reminding me of what might have been…(sighs again).

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:39 PM

But I can still wish it was Tina Fey and not Natasha Richardson, can I? Please?

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Thank you VFT. You said it much better than I did. I don’t especially like Romneys political manuvering and agree with most of the issues you have posted but I don’t understand why it can’t be left at that, hence my filibuster today. Why can’t we have a conversation about his past, present and future stand on the issues as you have done? What does it add to the conversation when many commenters are compelled to add some stupid, meaningless “gold plates” snark to the conversation. That just drives me nuts as it detracts from more important issues and seems to me to say quite a lot about anyone who cannot resist that impulse.

el rey on March 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Mike Huckabee DID NOT have class envy for Romney. Sure everybody would have loved to have the money Romney lost even. That’s not class envy. You believed everything the stupid pundits said about Huckabee didn’t you. Did you ever go on his website, Hucksarmy.com, click on Discussions, go down to Mike Huckabee and the issues. At least you can hear what really happened in Arkansas…the other side from the half-truths posted on MSM.

Yes, Mike Huckabee put out a Christian advertisement in Iowa..guess what that was his base he wanted to reach. Ater that, he never put out any Christian anything. Only the pundits, and debate questions kept pegging him that way. That wasn’t his fault. There is a lot more about the man than just being a Christian. He left the state of Arkansas in MUCH better shape than when he took office and a $850M surplus. For a Democratic state, he still gets 65% of the popular vote in Arkansas..that’s how good the people there thought he did as Gov. Romney had a 75% disapproval rating when he left office in Mass!

Again, Mike Huckabee has said many times religion should not be an issue for the President of the U.S., and that he could even vote for a athiest if they have maintained principles and supported issues of the Conservatives. He does not like Mitt Romney because he doesn’t have any principles. For the Christian voters who supported Romney in the ND primary, please check out what Romney did as Gov. before you trust him agan with your vote. He didn’t do well in Mass for the economy, people need to see what he did on his record, not what he says about issues. Look at his vote FOR the bailout that he gave to McCain (which people said was one of the biggest reasons they didn’t vote for McCain in the general). Romney told McCain to support that bailout. Rommey’s supporters have been against Palin since she was nominated by McCain. They put her down on Townhall and worked against her in every way. Did you people know that a lot of Romney’s staff went to work on McCain’s campaign for the gen? Just think they were secretly making Sarah Palin look bad, so McCain would lose and Romney could come in on his white horse as the savior of the Republican Party. Isn’t that what has happened? Money helps doesn’t it…it can buy a lot of votes!!! People in the U.S didn’t want to sell their vote to the highest bidder, they wanted somebody who was authentic and trustworthy (I am speaking about Republicans, not Democrats. Obviously, they were all fooled by him).

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM

It really is astonishing to me how blind people like VFT can be.
Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Dude, dont waste your time with Huckabots or Obamites. They are the same. Just make fun of them, laugh, and move on. You arent going to get them to see the right. Bigotry doesnt just wash off.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Every single word in your long-winded post was incorrect.

You fail, again.

Loser.

Go back to trailer. mmmmmkay?

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM

We shouldn’t dump on Romney because of his religion, but support what he says on economic issues, which are his strong point.

2008 was a strange election because the issues changed suddenly in midstream. Throughout the primaries, Obama was harping on a quick pullout from Iraq, and the success of the “surge” strategy helped McCain, while economic issues were in the background, and Romney’s strength there was masked by some voters’ aversion to his Mormonism. High energy prices during the summer became a dominant issue, and Sarah Palin’s “drill baby drill” sounded good then.

Then, suddenly in late September, banks started failing, McCain suspended his campaign to work with the Senate on a bailout, while Obama simply blamed Bush and rode anti-Bush sentiment into the White House, without having a real plan. If Romney had been the GOP nominee, he wouldn’t have had to go to the Senate, and he could have explained to the voters (better than McCain did) WHY the banks failed and what should be done about it.

With all the socialism that Obama is trying to force down our throats, the next election (not only 2012, but also 2010) WILL be about “the economy, stupid”. Romney is right to be talking about it, but he probably needs to join forces with other Republican leaders (Michael Steele, Newt Gingrich, etc.) to draft a new Contract with America economic plan that Republicans can run on to recapture the House in 2010.

Steve Z on March 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Mitt Romney is a smart man…he spent record amount of money mounting his campaign, and it never got traction. His internals obviously showed he did not have a prayer of winning…he just doesn’t connect with the American public.
I don’t know what it is, he just doesn’t connect. Palin did, he didn’t, Huck almost did, but still he missed…Giuliani connects, and I don’t know why, but people gravitate to him, but his private life is screwed up. Obama connected, McCain tried…there is no real rhyme of reason to it, some just “connect”, and others there is a “disconnect”. Romney as smart as he is, as ethical, comes up short in moving people…great as a VP or cabinet, but he won’t ever be the President.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 2:48 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM

VFT, you are embarrassing yourself. The Wall is correct. You Huckabee supporters are no different from Obama worshippers in that you are both driven by BLIND FAITH!!

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Well, maybe I don’t agree so much with VFT after all. I don’t necessarily like Romney’s politics but I equally dislike Huckabee’s. Both, in my mind, are opportunistic, political animals that will say or do anything to get elected. Either Huck or Mitt would be better than the O but look at how say anything to get elected is working out for us right now.

el rey on March 19, 2009 at 2:49 PM

We need to attempt to stop this F-U contest about who is the better Conservative candidate. We usually agree on the issues but man are we bitter about who is the best to lead this party. This is precisly what the Libs want with all this infighting. Who’s mod. who’s conservative. Who’s got the better religion, who’s out of touch. How bout we concentrate on ’10 and stop cold Obambi’s agenda. That is where our fight should be.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Did you people know that a lot of Romney’s staff went to work on McCain’s campaign for the gen? Just think they were secretly making Sarah Palin look bad, so McCain would lose and Romney could come in on his white horse as the savior of the Republican Party. Isn’t that what has happened? Money helps doesn’t it…it can buy a lot of votes!!! People in the U.S didn’t want to sell their vote to the highest bidder, they wanted somebody who was authentic and trustworthy (I am speaking about Republicans, not Democrats. Obviously, they were all fooled by him).

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Step away from the coffee pot…put down the cup…take a breath and relax…people will think you are, ummmm, you know, ahhhhhh, ummmmm, a little bit nutty, maybe?

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 2:52 PM

When he was Gov. of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee wanted to help the CHILDREN of the illegals who qualified to be able to get help to go to college. He ALSO stated they had to be in the process to be a citizen first. This is an example of the half-truths I’m talking about. Nobody mentioned the part about they should be trying to be citizens first!! But the MSM media and of course, Mitt Romney and his ads on TV, misstate the whole truth. Mike Huckabee was the only candidate who signed a form against amnesty for illegals.
Rightofleft,
You are right, Mike Huckabee, had a Christian leader ad for Iowa only because he wanted to reach the evangelicals there. He is a Christian leader, so there wasn’t any lies in the ad. There are lots of evangelicals in Iowa, so it was a smart move. When he won Iowa, and he made the comment that was because of a higher power…IT WAS! Think about Mike Huckabee’s chances there, nobody knew him, Romney spent more that $15-20 against him, the Club for Growth was making statements and many ads against Mike Huckabee (thanks to Mitt Romney and his $500,000 donation to CFG), and yet Mike Huckabee still won by 9% points. Wouldn’t you call that a miracle???? Only God could have helped him win with so much against him. When he made comments about the Constitution being more like the 10 commandments…he should have explained that statement better. What he was saying is that this country would be much better if they started obeying the 10 commandments (that is in the Constitution) our country would be in a much better condition right now. He means caring about our fellow man, treating others the way we WANT to be treated, etc.Christian values, not change it so it would be a Christian religion document. You see, he knew what he meant, but people took that the wrong way….undertandably.
As far as being against smoking, Laura Ingraham was on his Huckabee show on Fox News and Mike Huckabee explained that to mean not smoking in businesses and restaurants, not banning it everywhere across the U.S. Again misstating what he meant. For The Wall and others, I have read those comments in the MSM, do you think that’s all true? Go to Hucksarmy.com, click on Discussions, and go down to Mike Huckabee on the issues and find out the OTHER side of the story so YOU can see the WHOLE TRUTH.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:02 PM

right2bright,

Didn’t the staff of McCain did a horrible job of how they handled Sarah Palin? There was an article in the newspaper that said that McCain left her handling up to his staff. They themselves were responsible for not responding to many of the MSM articles about her. They kept her away from good interviews, and threw her to the wolves like Couric. Did you think they handled her well? Nobody did, and lots of his staff were Romney people. I was on Townhall and heard the comments from the Rombots about Palin….they all put her down. Mike Huckabee supporters on Huckpac and Huck’s Army ALL supported Sarah Palin and were thrilled when she got picked because she was so similar in her values, principles and communication skills to Mike Huckabee. We were hoping she could talk some sense into McCain if they had been elected. After Obama was elected, remember there were many false statements put out by the McCain camp about Sarah Palin? Who who do you think did that and why? Who would be the one who gained from that? MITT ROMNEY THAT’S WHO!!

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM

We need to attempt to stop this F-U contest about who is the better Conservative candidate. We usually agree on the issues but man are we bitter about who is the best to lead this party. This is precisly what the Libs want with all this infighting. Who’s mod. who’s conservative. Who’s got the better religion, who’s out of touch. How bout we concentrate on ‘10 and stop cold Obambi’s agenda. That is where our fight should be.

FlyoverJ-HawkFan on March 19, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Oh please. Eliminating the poison elements within the Republican party like Huckabee is essential. It was just yesterday that this man: http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/12/video-flashback-fat-huckabee-gorges-on-taxes/
was trying to portray himself as the quintessential fiscal conservative and I had to sit hear and watch the ignorant amoungst us actually buy into his latest false persona. Ridding ourselves from the likes of Mike Huckabee is the first step towards a healthy Republican party.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM

I knew my Mitt Romney magnetic bumpersticker would come in handy again.

Hopefully, I’ll be able to remove it from my fridge door and reattach it to my car in 2012.

The Ugly American on March 19, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Ridding ourselves from the likes of Mike Huckabee is the first step towards a healthy Republican party

I agree. We have to clean the inside before we can be successful on the outside. We cant win an election with spoilers like Huckabee, who have zero chance of being elected, dragging away the trailer-park types that vote republican, and ruining our primary process.

Its like Lucifer planted Huckabee in the party to make sure Obama would be elected. Maybe the dog that Hucks son hung was a blood offering to satan and for that offering, satan told Huck he can have a tv show if he would just go on the primaries, in the debates, and play the jealousy card and bring in religious hatred.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:20 PM

EL RAY,

If Mike Huckabee did anything to get elected, why would he have raised taxes in poor Arkansas? He cared about the people in Arkansas much more than doing what would be a good decision only to run for President. He had to get the schools, and infrastruture in Arkansas in much better shape and he did. The people there still like him 65% popular vote against the 77% of people who had a disapproval rating for Romney when he left his ONE term as Gov. So your statement about doing ANYTHING to get elected, we can reserve that just for ROMNEY.

As for Huckabee being like Cheney, take a look at his show “Huckabee” at 8:00 p.m. on Fox News on Sat. & Sun. and listen to his comments about the stimulus, bailout, etc. He is TOTALLY against it and never supported the original bailout like your pal, Mitt Romney. You note I don’t need to call you names to get my point across, I just will tell you the truth about Romney’s and Huckabee’s records. If you want the links to see my proof, just let me know. They are out there, but, unfortunately, the Wash elite insiders, and Conservative radio & TV pundits don’t want you to see the truth about their golden boy.

Pay attention!!! All the Republicans did not consider the lack of communication skills or debating that John McCain had and voted for him to be the nominee, even though he used the previous 8 years to poke at the Republicans because they didn’t vote for him in 2000. NOW, you need to consider ALL about a candidate for the Republican nomination. Yes, their communication skills, debate skills, likeability and their ability to relate to the people in the U.S. should be what you look for. If you overlook these traits for the 2012 election like you did for the 2008, WE WILL LOSE!!! It is very important that our candidate is charismatic like Obama or we will not be able to compete with him. Mitt Romney does NOT meet all the criteria and we will lose if Mr. Plastic man is our nominee no matter how smart he is.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Nobody did, and lots of his staff were Romney people….After Obama was elected, remember there were many false statements put out by the McCain camp about Sarah Palin? Who who do you think did that and why? Who would be the one who gained from that? MITT ROMNEY THAT’S WHO!!

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM

You keep saying “lots of his staff”, who are you talking about. Handlers, or secretary’s, let’s have some names.
I think you are parroting what other bloggers have said.
What “many false statements” from McCain camp. You should backup your accusations with some facts.
I don’t think anyone could have foreseen what Palin went through, it was unprecedented. The attack was from the MSM, not from McCain, missteps, yeah, welcome to the world of changing politics. More “missteps” from the other side, just not “played up”, 10,000 dead, 60 states, let alone what Biden the goof stated everyday his muzzle was removed.
The fact is this, and this is all that matters, Romney spent a record amount of money, and he couldn’t get traction…you can say and ponder all you want, but it just boils down to “some people connect, others don’t”.
But to say that Mitt had some underground secret society working to destroy all that were against him, is ludicrous, border line crazy…9/11, grassy knoll stuff.
Romney is weak in connecting, and he has no “coattails”, he doesn’t know how to bring along other politicians with him. It isn’t because he is “evil”, it just isn’t his nature. He just isn’t the “consummate politician” which may be more to his credit, but won’t get him elected.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM

The Wall,

You just can’t focus on the issues, can you? You have to be so small to call names. That will not get you anywhere.

Remember, they were half-truths about Mike Huckabee in the MSM in 2008. He is on “Huckabee” and if you listen and go to hucksarmy.com to find out the whole truth, you will see that he was not portrayed honestly the first time.

Yes, initially it looks like he did some liberal things in Arkansas as Gov. BUT you have to see what he was up against, a $280M deficit when he took office, Supreme Court of Arkansas said improve those school scores (they were at 48th in the U.S.) and he was left with terrible road conditions with no money to improve them. The people of Arkansas voted and said they wanted a tax increase to improve these things. He also had to work with a totally Democratic legislature to get anything done and to veto what he wanted. He was very successful as Gov. and left a $800M surplus when he left office. He also got over 48% of the Democratic black voters to support him when he ran for Governor. He has had relationships with the African Americans for years. During the primary, there were big black groups in Georgia and Wash, D.C. that came out for Mike Huckabee. The Republican Party has to get some more of the African American vote in 2012, and Mike Huckabee is the only Republican candidate who would have a chance to do that.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Remember, they were half-truths about Mike Huckabee in the MSM in 2008. He is on “Huckabee” and if you listen and go to hucksarmy.com to find out the whole truth, you will see that he was not portrayed honestly the first time.

Not interested in reading on “hucksarmy.com.” It’s not the Bible, or the only source of truth or something.

cs89 on March 19, 2009 at 3:34 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM

And just to add, Huck is even weaker in presenting his case of being a “conservative”.
One thing is certain…you can’t be a religious leader and a politician. One or the other is seriously going to be compromised (Someone important to me once stated “You can’t serve two masters).
The skill sets to be a politician, and the ones to be a Christian or Mormon leader are different.
One you are willing and must sacrifice ideals on a regular basis, choosing a wrong path rather then a deadly wrong path…the other, only one path and it is clearly defined.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Right2bright,

Who didn’t do a good job of “HANDLING PALIN”? Romney’s people were in some of the upper eschelon positions in McCain’s campaign. They were the ones Handling Palin. They didn’t just do a few things wrong, they were practically all wrong in how they handled her. If those handlers lost with John McCain in that election cycle, who do you think they might work for in the the next, 2012? Use your brain, they were thinking about their futures too.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Right2bright,

Mike Huckabee could help our country get back to its Christian roots. Not by dictating to them, but more by example. We need a Christian in the White House to help stop more abortions, to help other countries, etc. Of all the places in the U.S. that needs good, honest, and trustworty values, it’s in the White House.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM

This is fast becoming the Bush stole the elections argument. Can we wait until 2010 when the primaries start again, and see who is running…before the worshiping-your-favorite-candidate-therefore-they-can-do-no-wrong- and the whole-world-is-against-them-therefore-they-must-be-good begins?

This is why when you focus on the person instead of principles, you become a tool.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM

right2bright, you are sounding reasonable here. what happened? I thought you were a huck nut during the primaries. werent you one of the dudes quoting scripture against mormons during the primary. I could be wrong. if it was you, its cool, just trying to remember.

Romney is not a natural politican…to your point. Maybe if things get bad enough, people wont fall for people who say things real well and search for a leader that is all substance and no dash. But most likely, Romney doesnt have a chance….too good of a person and to perfect of a history to be elected by a majority in this wicked world.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Mike Huckabee could help our country get back to its Christian roots.

The country doesnt have christian roots. it has secular roots. you sound retarded…no offense though.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Cs89,

Of course it’s not the Bible or something as you say. But if you have read the half-truths on MSM and Limbaugh etc., don’t you want to hear the other side too. Then make up your mind. At least you will understand why and how some of the issues happened in Arkansas. Don’t you think it’s fair to give a person the right to defend himself? Those articles are about issues, not religion.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:42 PM

The Wall,

The people who wrote the Bill of Righs were Christians and everybody knows that this country was built on Christian values. It’s too bad we have gone so far away from those values. That’s one of the main reasons why this country is in such a mess right now.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

If Mike Huckabee did anything to get elected, why would he have raised taxes in poor Arkansas? He cared about the people in Arkansas much more than doing what would be a good decision only to run for President.
VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:23 PM

VFT logic: He raised taxes because he cares.

See folks! This is why somebody like Huckabee kills the Repubican party. He attracts liberals. And the worst kind of liberals at that – Fiscal liberals. For every one liberal brought in 2 conservatives walk out.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

I totally agree with jacrew.

Additionally, I saw Romney speak at CPAC. I couldn’t have been LESS moved by any speaker. Newt and Pence blew him away, although I think Newt’s unelectable.

howIroll on March 19, 2009 at 3:48 PM

The country doesnt have christian roots. it has secular roots. you sound retarded…no offense though.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Our nation is rooted in freedom. Freedom to practice whatever religion one chooses. And freedom not to practice any religion at all if one chooses. Most of our founders believed in a higher power but had they not believed in God, the Constitution they drafted would still be the same. Word for Word.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Sure Huck has the right to defend himself. Your posts, however, read as if every criticism of Huck is a half-truth, and if we only read what Mike Huckabee has written, we will then know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

I remember the campaign. I saw the “floating cross” ad, the “what? it’s just a bookcase!” defense, the “I’m not gonna air this ad, but I’ll show it to you reporters here” fiasco, etc.

Huck doesn’t strike me as the paragon of integrity.

That is all.

cs89 on March 19, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Zetterson,

So if your logic is correct, Mike Huckabee should have never raised taxes, did nothing to help his State improve and THEN he would have been a good Conservative. If that’s what you call being a good Conservative, you are wrong. He was elected to improve his State and he did. He didn’t just sit around and think “what would the Consevatives rather I do?” He actually improved the schools to 8th in the U.S. Yes, that takes money. Would you rather him leave those children in the mess the Democrats left just so he could stay with no “No New Taxes”. Last time I looked a Gov. or President is supposed to govern and all states and all governors conditions are NOT THE SAME, so you cannot compare them. I suppose you think we should leave the poor to die even if they cannot get a job? I have worked in Food Pantrys and Addiction classes and met many people in these conditions. You cannot put all poor people in the same class of never trying to help themselves. So if Mike Huckabee wants to help the ones who can’t get help, that’s very bad isn’t it. Guess what, the people of this country would support him for that even if the Conservatives think that’s too liberal. How sad!!!

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Islamic Rage Boy is a moderate compared to the devotion HucksArmy jihadis devote to their chosen candidate.

It’s not about religion. It’s about cult of personality. When it comes to that, only the Obamatrons are on par with the Huckabites. Their monomaniacal devotion to their chosen narrative is as Terminator-esque in its relentlessness as it is unseemly in its Goldstein-ization of their chosen anti-Huck.

I voted for Mitt in the primaries. I despised my choices in November, though Palin’s presence at least let me vote FOR someone. Whether Mitt runs again isn’t of interest to me at the moment – it’s about limiting whatever damage we can in 2009. And for that, I’ll welcome any voice that’s willing to work together against the idiocy coming out of Democrat-controlled DC.

sulla on March 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM

The people who wrote the Bill of Righs were Christians
VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

A) No they werent all christians by your definition

B) It wouldnt matter if they were all christians, but they werent.

The last thing we need is some phony minister guzzying up the christian right and losing the other 80% of the country.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Islamic Rage Boy is a moderate compared to the devotion HucksArmy jihadis devote to their chosen candidate

Good point. Good post.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:56 PM

CS89,

That was a bookcase, not a cross. Some people read an article that stated that his manager said it really was a cross. Mike Huckabee wrote an article for Huckpac, saying that his Campaign Mgr. never said that. I guess you could go back and find the article and see for yourself. I never said that the facts on hucksarmy are the WHOLE TRUTH (even though I believe they are). But if you don’t get his side of the story how will you know that the MSM is not true either? Read all the information, not just what the media wants you to read, just look at Obama. They didn’t tell the bad stuff about him. Get all the facts is what I’m saying, then make up your own mind.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Additionally, I saw Romney speak at CPAC. I couldn’t have been LESS moved by any speaker. Newt and Pence blew him away, although I think Newt’s unelectable.

howIroll on March 19, 2009 at 3:48 PM

You just admitted that you are stupid.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM

So if your logic is correct, Mike Huckabee should have never raised taxes, did nothing to help his State improve and THEN he would have been a good Conservative. If that’s what you call being a good Conservative, you are wrong. He was elected to improve his State and he did. He didn’t just sit around and think “what would the Consevatives rather I do?” He actually improved the schools to 8th in the U.S. Yes, that takes money. Would you rather him leave those children in the mess the Democrats left just so he could stay with no “No New Taxes”. Last time I looked a Gov. or President is supposed to govern and all states and all governors conditions are NOT THE SAME, so you cannot compare them. I suppose you think we should leave the poor to die even if they cannot get a job? I have worked in Food Pantrys and Addiction classes and met many people in these conditions. You cannot put all poor people in the same class of never trying to help themselves. So if Mike Huckabee wants to help the ones who can’t get help, that’s very bad isn’t it. Guess what, the people of this country would support him for that even if the Conservatives think that’s too liberal. How sad!!!

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Ahhh fine. Go ahead. Keep talking. You may not realize it but you are making a better case not to vote for Huckabee to most people here than I ever could.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 4:00 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM

See what I mean folks?? Huckabee attracts fiscal liberals. VFT doesn’t even realize why that’s a bad thing. He actually believes that taxing the constituents helped them.

Its breathtaking.

VFT, just out of curiousity. What do you consider yourself politically. A Conservative? A Liberal? What?

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM

VFT logic: He raised taxes because he cares.

See folks! This is why somebody like Huckabee kills the Repubican party. He attracts liberals. And the worst kind of liberals at that – Fiscal liberals. For every one liberal brought in 2 conservatives walk out.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Yep. exactly right.

VFT, you are getting schooled. there is no way that huckabee is going to be elected or even nominated…zero chance.

Romney has a better than zero chance…still slim…but infinitley better chance that douche huck.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM

See what I mean folks?? Huckabee attracts fiscal liberals. VFT doesn’t even realize why that’s a bad thing. He actually believes that taxing the constituents helped them.

Its breathtaking

Well played.

I am telling you…Huckabites are pro-life obamites. yes they are.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM

If I had mad Photoshop skills like Slublog, I’d try to put together a “DC$DC Armageddon” rock poster (AC/DC style) with the usual suspects (Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Geithner) and a pile of money in flames.

Or something cooler.

sulla on March 19, 2009 at 4:06 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Let me repeat, I saw the ad, I know it was a bookcase and I know it looked like a cross. Huck and anybody else that saw the ad, before or after it was sent to the stations, knew what it looked like too.

The bigger issue for me was the “what do you mean?” feigned innocence when asked about it. Alone, the ad itself isn’t a big deal. Coupled with an unbelievable explanation, another “innocent” question about Mormon theology, etc. and Huck looks very, very passive-aggressive in his relationship with other candidates especially (but not only)Romney.

cs89 on March 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM

I am a STRONG Conservative. Don’t worry I listen to a candidate, but I also do my homework (research),and then I find out what the media didn’t tell you for whatever reasons.

Mike Huckabee has more integrity in his little finger than either Obama or Romney. Don’t listen to the truth, and you will find yourself just where we were the morning after Obama won..we have to look at all angles on how to beat him. I am not just looking at Mike Huckabee’s personality, even though it would be a major asset in the White House, I am looking at the principles he has always lived by even as a Republican Gov. in the state of democratic Arkansas. He didn’t change them..that’s a man you can trust. His religion didn’t affect the people in Arkansas not to vote for him. He won a second term easily. His program on Fox News is attracting liberals, and Indpendeats as well and they will have a favorable opinion of him if he chooses to run in 2012. If Obama makes terrible mistakes for the economy, the conservative Democrats will be looking for someone just like Mike Huckabee to vote for.

I have really enjoyed our conversations, but I have work to do….so talk to you soon.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Define Conservative.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Who didn’t do a good job of “HANDLING PALIN”? Romney’s people were in some of the upper eschelon positions in McCain’s campaign.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Okay, I am going to ask you again…who are you talking about.
You keep saying “Romney’s people”, you could be saying the “space aliens” or “martians”.
Just name some of those names…or are you just lip-synching what you have been reading on anti-Romney blogs.
And I suppose you have never heard of one campaign folding and the strategists moving to other…even dems to republicans.
When in the midst of a campaign, against Obama, McCain and his “Romney robots” were after Obama.
Here is what you sound like: Huckabee’s handlers wanted to create a riff in the party, so they planted the rumors that McCain and Romney were undermining Palin.
He knew that Palin was loved by many of the same people, so if he could split McCain by tying him to “dirty tricks” by Romney then the spin off would be the supporter would attach themselves to Huck and Palin…it was all a master plan.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 4:46 PM

To add, even if, and its a big if, that Romney’s people undermined Palin, he would have to prove they did so under the direction of Romney.

VFT hint, being a strong conservative doesn’t mean you are against abortion and gay marriage. But thanks for admitting that Huck is no conservative above. Or at least “doesn’t listen to conservatives when it comes to paying for government programs, because he cares” Someone who does that is not a conservative…conservatives are principle based. If you were a strong conservative, you would run very fast from Huck.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM

right2bright, you are sounding reasonable here. what happened? I thought you were a huck nut during the primaries. werent you one of the dudes quoting scripture against mormons during the primary.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Glad to set the record straight. You are partially right, kind of.
I am not a “huck-ster”, never have been. I am a Christian, and I did quote scripture against Joseph Smith.
Mormon’s as a group and individuals are great people, just like most others, and some are not so great…just like many others.
Their founder, whom they call a prophet (and I scoff at “living prophets”), liked young girls (15 years old), and liked many wives (several whom were already married).. Years ago that was a profound lie, now they even report it on their official websites (the internet is amazing at setting the record straight). They just think it is “okay”, in another 10 years they will recognize it for what it was.
I have always thought Romney was intelligent, and would make a great VP or cabinet (as long as he, and he did, state that he would follow the constitution and not his ‘living prophet’)…I never bought into the “he is a great businessman, so he would be a great leader”, there is no proof that the skill sets of a businessman transfers to a politician, in fact quite the opposite. Military, certainly, but I don’t think we have ever had a “great businessman” as a leader. Closest were two recently, Perot and Forbes, both dismal failures.
I actually, and wrongly, supported McCain…but more of a Palin fan, and was 6-9 months before she was even selected. What she did in Alaska, and took on the Administration was remarkable, and showed true independence. Something that scares most voters.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Conservative Voice, that is exacty why I was eager to have him provide us with his definition of conservative. I would be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that his definition would be missing something. It would omit all the work of Milton Friedman. Based on some of the things he mentioned above he struck me as the type of person never exposed to his work.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 5:10 PM

As maybe unfortunate as it is…we will choose someone with the “it” factor…and they will then begin to mold themselves into a candidate that will embrace the Hucksters, Mitt-wits, Palinites, McShams, and others.
Each has something to offer to one group or the other…we will find a leader that can bridge all of those ideals, much like Reagan did.
The dems found Obama, he then “molded” his views to capture whom he needed to capture…we now see most of it was a lie.
Hopefully ours will not be so blatant…and will posses much of what we want as a nation.
Patience, a leader will emerge, but it won’t be someone who has been around for 30 years…

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM

I have really enjoyed our conversations, but I have work to do….so talk to you soon.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I notice he left without naming those mysterious “ninja” party leaders that Romney secretly implanted into McCain.
I am afraid that is typical of someone supporting Hucky…they throw out some tired worn out phrase “Romney loyalists in McCain’s inner circle was planted to undermine Palin”, but never have any names, let alone proof.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM

I never bought into the “he is a great businessman, so he would be a great leader”, there is no proof that the skill sets of a businessman transfers to a politician…
right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:09 PM

I don’t think “being a great businessman” necessarily translates into Presidential competence either. But I do believe that it is vital to understand how business works. How macroeconomics works. I think its important to understand that businesses (both small and large) are no different than people. In order to thrive they must have two things. Freedom and incentive. Take either of them away and they will suffer.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Its like Lucifer planted Huckabee in the party to make sure Obama would be elected. Maybe the dog that Hucks son hung was a blood offering to satan and for that offering, satan told Huck he can have a tv show if he would just go on the primaries, in the debates, and play the jealousy card and bring in religious hatred.

The Wall on March 19, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Worth repeating for the mere classiness it took to write it.
Huckabee is a schmuck but come on,…

portlandon on March 19, 2009 at 5:25 PM

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM

If we wait for some mysterious leader to come forth, it will be a long wait indeed. Instead we need to focus on today, what can we the people do today.
Polls are a drug to politicians, drive down the polls, and we will see the members of congress singing a different tune.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM

If we wait for some mysterious leader to come forth, it will be a long wait indeed. Instead we need to focus on today, what can we the people do today.
Polls are a drug to politicians, drive down the polls, and we will see the members of congress singing a different tune.

Conservative Voice on March 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Maybe I mis-sstated what I believe…a leader will emerge that will be all those things. Often is is not someone high on the radar, or has been around a long time…maybe a Jindahl, if things unravel, and he can show leadership, direction, sincerity, passion, all those things that make a great leader…or some other Senator…but it won’t be any of the “old dogs”.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Maybe I mis-sstated what I believe…a leader will emerge that will be all those things. Often is is not someone high on the radar, or has been around a long time…maybe a Jindahl, if things unravel, and he can show leadership, direction, sincerity, passion, all those things that make a great leader…or some other Senator…but it won’t be any of the “old dogs”.

right2bright on March 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM

I would love to see Bobby Jindal succeed for us politically. A real small government fiscal Conservative and undeniably brilliant man. A man went to Brown University along with acceptances to both Harvard Medical School and Yale Law School. He was running the state of Louisiana’s Health Care program at the age of 24. He proceeded to transform the HC program’s enormous deficit into an equally enormous surplus. And best of all, the MSM would never be able to do to Jindal what they did to Palin. He’s untouchable aside from two things. Like Romney they will unfairly and relentlessly harp on past religious statements about exorsism and the like. They will attempt to use that as a wedge between conservatives and independents. And second, its tough for modern day Americans to gravitate to a dorky, geeky, soft spoken little Indian dude. Watch any movie with a nerd based theme. There is always a little Indian guy/kid playing one of the geeks. There is always a little dorky Asian. There is always a obese misfit with a heart of gold. The American Idol culture that accounts for too large a percentage of American voters does not want the dorky little Indian. They want the Freddie Prinze Jr character who befriends the dorky clan and helps them defeat the “popular” crowd. The MSM and the Dems will try as hard as they can to portray Bobby Jindal as the dorky smart little Indian kid forever sporting a pocket protector and glasses that don’t fit quite right.

Zetterson on March 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM

I have really enjoyed our conversations, but I have work to do

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM

He’ll be back. </Terminator>

sulla on March 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

he reason why Romney left the primary is because he saw the handwriting on the wall, he could not win, and he didn’t want to lose any more of his money!!! I didn’t see any support for McCain from Official party ranks then. If you will remember, all the radio & TV pundits were supporting Rommey. If he thought he could win, he would not have needed their support or money. It’s the American people who vote for the winner, not the Washingion insiders.

VFT on March 19, 2009 at 1:46 PM

You could not be more wrong. The whole primary was engineered by RNC (including the entry of Huckabee and Thompson) to defeat Romney. Just what do you think Ed Rollins is? You need to brush up on back room politics, esp. 2008′s.

eaglesdontflock on March 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Mike Huckabee has more integrity in his little finger than either Obama or Romney. VFT

If that was the case, he would not have hired Rollins.

eaglesdontflock on March 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM

The only thing that gives Rollins ANY credibility in conservative circles is his part in the Reagan victory. His clients since then? The toxic Ariana Huffington’s ex husband for CA senate. Ross Perot, who twice handed the election to Bill Clinton. And Huckabee, whose “nice” factor spelunked into the abyss around the time Rollins slithered on board.

Whatever honor Rollins possessed was long gone by the time he hooked up with Huckabee, and by their fruits did we know them. They’re STILL doing all they can to poison the Romney well. VFT, as long as you continue trying to refight the 2008 primaries, you remain part of the problem.

Forgive Romney for not committing ritual seppuku before the altar of Huck, bury the freaking 2008 primary hatchet, and LIVE IN THE NOW. We have an Obama agenda to thwart. Let’s work together.

sulla on March 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM

sulla on March 19, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Don’t forget Christy Whitman in NJ and the “walking around” money. Rollins is used by the GOP whenever there is dirty business and the suits want to keep their hands clean. All denied, of course.

Perot drew equally from Clinton and Bush, according to all reputable polls. Bush I gave us Clinton, and Dole gave us Clinton II.

eaglesdontflock on March 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM

And the Republican National Committee gave us Obama

eaglesdontflock on March 19, 2009 at 7:32 PM

eaglesdontflock on March 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Although I felt tepid about Bush 41 and voted against Clinton rather than for Dole, I also believe that if Perot hadn’t been in the race, Clinton would have lost in 1992. Both were weak enough candidates that – even as crazy as Perot and his I’m-in-I’m-out-I’m-in campaign were – he pulled nearly 20% of the vote. I was in a very conservative county that year, and a precinct captain. In my area, if I recall, Clinton came in FOURTH behind Bush, Perot, and Bo Gritz.

The GOP field was weak in 1992, a “my turn” grudge match for Dole in 1996, and 2008 was a similar “My turn, dammit” nomination grab by McCain to give the GOP the opportunity to repent of its sins for nominating Bush in 2000.

We lucked out in 2000 when Nadir [sic] hurt Gore more than Buchanan hurt Bush.

sulla on March 19, 2009 at 7:42 PM

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