Video: Jon Stewart rips Obama on wounded-vet policy
posted at 1:51 pm on March 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
How many new conservative viewers will Jon Stewart get in the Age of Obama? If he offers up a few more segments like this, I’d guess more than a few. Stewart rips the Obama administration for its ideas on raising revenue by forcing wounded veterans to use private insurance to pay for service-related injuries. Apparently, he and Commander David Rehbein of the American Legion are both, er, angered by this notion, as Jazz Shaw’s transcript makes clear:
STEWART: You know the veterans? The men and women who risk their lives defending our country? They’re about yay tall, wear green… sometimes tan. They’re this brave. Well, when they get injured, you know who foots the bill? You. The taxpayer. It’s incredibly… fair.
That’s why it struck me as a little odd when I read that one of the money saving proposals from the Obama administration was to remove veterans with private insurance plans from the V.A. rolls. So I guess what the government is saying is that if you still need a little rehab after you got that leg blown off in Iraq, the government will cover you! Unless your wife as a little COBRA left over from her substitute teaching gig. In that case, you’re going to have to go with her and the whole deductible thing. Unless, of course, your spouse is in Congress, and then you can get their sweet, sweet government plan.
I’ve got some other ideas they might want to try out to save a little money in the military. How about sponsored commendations? For your service, I offer you the Frito Lay Medal of Honor. Here’s another one… how about actual Navy seals? [A picture is shown of a Sea World seal with a sailor hat on.] People would totally pay to see that! Or how about the Arlington National Cemetery and Water Park?
WHAT THE F*&K ARE YOU GUYS THINKING!!??? Veterans having to use their private insurance to pay for their combat related injuries? THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT.
As a Navy veteran, Jazz adds his thanks to Stewart for going ballistic in his satirical manner. And Stewart nails it — it can’t be right, because it isn’t right. It’s a betrayal of trust, one I suspect won’t last the week after the attention it’s received. The Huffington Post reports that Capitol Hill Democrats are just as angry — for putting them in this position.
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Ah… now we get down to your real beef.
The subject at hand is WOUNDED VETS who were wounded in the LINE OF DUTY.
If you get hurt at work bcs your boss had you do something dangerous, then they’re liable.
Regardless of whether there’s a ‘war’ declared or not, the military OWNS the soldier & tells them what to do. They have no choice after they sign up.
It’s not like they can quit.
Your freedom is expensive, dude.
I personally don’t mind paying for it.
The military taking care of its own is nothing close to socialism.
Look back at what Washington had to put up with in the days of the Revolution-those poor bastards-I wonder what it would have been like if Congress had NEVER gotten off their butts & provided for their soldiers.
We’d probably be part of the NHS.
So much for your health care scheme.
Badger40 on March 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM
amerpundit on March 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I understand. It like trying to put a hat on a mule. The mule doesn’t like it and it sure doesn’t make the mule look any better.
kingsjester on March 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM
I’m against socialized medicine.
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM
You f@cking turd. Comparing military health services to socialized medicine in just beyond the pale. What is your f*cking major malfunction?
You think folks who could put their 4-5 years of college or technical skills like aviation or medicine wouldn’t love to make some more change for their effort? The education and medical benefits are part of making up for what we don’t get on the outside. And here’s a newsflash you moron, we do pay for part of the care for us and for our families through Tr-Care and United Concordia.
Dean, why don’t you just take your Ron Paul anti-military and anti-semitism to some kook site where you’d be amoung your peers?
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM
This guy is as phony as his fake last name “Stewart”. Why is he so ashamed of his real last name?
50sGuy on March 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM
This could really save good money that could be better allocated to ACORN.
It could be extended further. You could sell advertising on prosthetics. I know one wounded SEAL veteran has a glass eye with a trident (the SEAL emblem) in the pupil. That’s wasteful, he could have the AIG logo in there instead.
You know those handicapped tags you can hang from you rearview mirror (if you’re handicapped)? Put advertising on those, too.
Wheelchairs could carry as much advertising as pushed and they can go into buildings. Hope ‘n’ change is bringing us a whole new world.
Limpet6 on March 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM
I broke my neck in 1998 in a service-connected accident. The Coast Guard medically retired me at 100% disability rating. Dean, you and Obama can both kiss my skinny paralyzed ass for agreeing with this idiotic proposal.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM
ok but seriously, I raised this before and didn’t get a satisfactory answer. Conservative outrage on this issue has to, at its base, acknowledge that the current free market health care system is screwed up. This is an argument FOR the Obama healthcare proposal writ large, even as this one aspect of it flies in the face of the rest. (Which confuses me to no end I must say).
DeathToMediaHacks on March 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Then you remain painfully ignorant.
Count to 10 on March 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I thought it was interesting that even HIS dope-smoking slacker studio audience booed at that.
Sorry if someone else mentioned that already.
JamesLee on March 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Frito Lay MOH, actual Navy seals, and Arlington National Cemetery and Waterpark have exactly what to do, specifically, with treatment of service members’ service-related injuries?
EPIC FAIL, Jon, but clearly good enough for your audience.
Christien on March 18, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Then only the Coast Guard warrants your support?
Better yet-let’s not do ANYTHING til Islam shows up on our front doorstep. Then let’s blow their heads off after they’ve totally infiltrated their way into our country & have murdered millions of our citizens right here at home.
Bah! Who needs to stop the $hit hitting the fan!
Let’s just deal with it AFTER it hits the fan.
What a genius idea.
/sarc
Badger40 on March 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I’m with you..doesnt deserve a response.
becki51758 on March 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM
The health care system is messed up bcs of regulation. Govt regulation. Medicare/-caid abuse/fraud etc.
Some regulation is good-but the govt does not enforce those ‘good’ regulations.
They only seem to enforce the ‘bad’ regulations.
No one has a ‘right’ to health care. This is what families, charities, friends, families, etc are for.
And if the govt stayed out of the business & remained an impartial referee, health care would be much better off.
But this is not about opening a door for socialized medicine.
This is about the govt taking care of its VETERANS.
This isn’t about taking care of people without health insurance.
Badger40 on March 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Or, or you could suit up and put your a/s/s on the line too you coward.
You hide behind Ron Paul talking points.
Yellow bellied sniveling anti-semetic dog queeze.
Just go away!
You’re worse than left wing peace protestors. At least they admit that they hate the military.
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Welcome home John, or at least thanks for putting your foot in the door. As your Messiah continues to flounder, you will soon walk through the door rest of the way.
davek70 on March 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Good luck. I think his Damascus is pretty far off.
Tzetzes on March 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
If anything, military medical costs should come straight from Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice/Obama personal bank account. You know, I don’t want to pay for people getting murdered overseas.
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 2:18 PM
You’re a weirdo. Shut up, please.
JAM on March 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
But if a government healthcare system is worse than the private free market shuldnt you want veterans to be as far away from that system as possible? Something doesn’t quite square up here. Vets should get the best medical service possible no? Folks like the American legion seem to be fine with the government system. Why would that not work on a larger scale with one broad tax spread across income streams to pay for it?
DeathToMediaHacks on March 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
OK, that’s an obscure Hot Air favorite video reference, but it sums things up.
flipflop on March 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Could Jon Stewart be suddenly secretly suspicious that his Dear Leader is a douch?
kurtzz3 on March 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM
I think we give far too much credence to what comedians say nowadays. He’s probably just trying to save face after exposing himself as a partisan hack over the last few weeks.
and yea,
Wonder what she has to say about all this?
scalleywag on March 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Everyday chores call. You know like taking out the trash and changing the spotlight on the flag pole. It’s petty obvious that HA changes the spot like but I’m not too sure about the trash.
Later.
Limerick on March 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM
I will give you a simple answer. The government sends our military to fight its battles-we fight for all Americans, in their place.
The government does not choose to make you work in food service, or as a lawyer or teacher, you choose to do these things and you are free to bargain with your employer to get the best deal or you can choose to improve your education to get better benefits.
The military does not choose to do anything but serve America’s military interest. They do round the clock service,they go into danger constantly and consistently.Our government owes an obligation to pay for whatever injuries our soldiers receive because they chose to serve our government. Notice I say injuries while serving. Our government does not owe civilians — because they choose to serve themselves. IMHO
canditaylor68 on March 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Let me go way out on a limb here and take a wild guess…you never served in the armed forces, did you?
scalleywag on March 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Oh God…how quaint. A brief history lesson. There has been no declaration of war by the US Congress since World War II. There have been numerous authorizations for the president to use military force like Afghanistan and Iraq. Now what was your point again?
sdd on March 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Yes, the VA medical system is bloated & wasteful & inefficient. The solution is not to charge vets with service-connected injuries for their care. Use the VA budget to fund us as we go out on the market to find care. It’ll be better care, and it’ll be cheaper.
Oh, and one more thing … Dean can still osculate my posterior. Pucker up, jackass.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Jon Liebowitz insists he is NOT Obama’s lap dog. Cramer begs to differ, then limps back into a corner with Santelli.
Angry Dumbo on March 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM
veterans get their health care form their place of work – the gov, civilians from theirs – private companies.
runner on March 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM
DeathToMediaHacks on March 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
That’s your problem with this issue. They are not ‘fine’ with this issue. They, like military families, are doing the absolute bloody best they can with the stupid system the Government GAVE them (us). It is a FAR cry from the free medical and dental my spouse and any future family was ‘promised’ when he signed up. Heck, we as a retired family, have to drive over 50 miles to get our children to a dentist that ‘accepts’ military retiree insurance…don’t get me started on jumping through hoops to get specialty care—if it’s available anywhere. And since we don’t live near a military facility, it’s generally, not.
Trust me. You DO NOT want this health care system.
dish on March 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM
He hides it under his hat.
thomasaur on March 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Finally, Stewart’s ripping on Obama. About d*mn time. There’s just so much material to rip him on.
RickZ on March 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Douche.
Marine_Bio on March 18, 2009 at 2:53 PM
DTMH
It’s the govt. responsibility to take care of vets. They don’t always do a great job of it,i.e. Walter Reed, but it’s their burden.If the govt. wants to pay private facilities for vets care, I got no problem w/that. But making a vet pay for their OWN care, is the crux of the problem w/this proposal.
This is why I do not want any part of Govt. run healthcare.
JAM on March 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Good points made here in some of the later posts. Government health care in the military is lousy. They would actually be better off in the hands of the market. I mean it may cost a bit more for them, but that’s the price you would pay.
I’m not against the military, I just despise what they’re doing. The anti-semitic charge is way out of bounds as well.
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 2:55 PM
If someone walks up to you, sticks a knife in your sterum hard enough to crack through to you heart and after you hit the sidewalk dead already, he grabs your wallet and runs off, I guess it wouldnt be a mugging either because he didn’t say, “This is a stickup.”
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Never. Conservatives should boycott Jon Stewart. He’s a hardcore liberal who isn’t even funny anymore. He’s like O’Reilly, only he escapes criticism by putting his clown mask on and saying “I’m just a comedian!”
Outlander on March 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Stewart’s right here of course, but let’s not kid ourselves about his motivations. He’s really criticizing privatized health care and will, eventually, make the point that if government health care is good enough for soldiers, why isn’t it good enough for the rest of us. It’s really just an attempt to prop up the one payer system his fellow libs want. Of course, that completely ignores the fact that soldiers should also have the option to go private if they wish, but that’s his motivation here.
clearbluesky on March 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM
The medical care is pretty d*mn good. What the hel* would you know about it?
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM
So I’m an Iraq
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM
So I’m an Iraqi civilian and the U.S. government is the guy with the knife?
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM
And that is why you fail…
There should be NO cost to “them.” Period. Like I said, if Obama wants to pay for vets receiving care at the Mayo Clinic, I’m all for it. Shut down every military hospital there is and let them get care at quality institutions. It is the attempt to make them pay for their war-related injuries that is completely insulting.
JAM on March 18, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Not to be callus, but isn’t military service also chosen? There’s no draft correct. Indeed, we were told over and over again after Kerry’s gaffe that bad education/lack of skills were not “backdoor drafts” people “chose” to sign up for the “voluntary” military. So in that sense, there’s no difference.
Frankly, what I’m seeing in response to my argument is a bunch of emotional appeals. We don’t want socialized medicine for all, but Vets deserve socialized medicine. Which implies that socialized medicine is BETTER than what the free market can offer a consumer and thus, suggests is the way we should go writ large.
Now to those who say “trust us, you don’t want healthcare the way the VA (under Bush policy) has been treating us the last ten years.” To that I say, I agree Bush VA policy on healthcare has been an absolute nightmare. But I never heard anyone claim Dubya “hated” the troops as a result. Or maybe I missed all those stories in the right wing blogosphere.
As of now, no bill has been introduced to congress which slashes vet health benefits. Until then all the substantive things wrong with VA health are leftover from the previous, supposedly “pro troop” Administration.
DeathToMediaHacks on March 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM
If Government Run Healthcare is so peachy, why are people from Canada running down here to be treated? Why has Japan jumped all over the chance to buy Supplemental Insurance from America’s leading company (the one with the duck)?
And The Dean, (by the way, do we call you The , or is your first name really John?)if you don’t wish to support our military, fine. We’re not the only free nation in the world. But we are the Best, with the finest Armed Forces in the world, made up of patriotic men and women, like our buddy, Hawkdriver.
kingsjester on March 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM
What kills me is the amount of idiots who wait for someone like Stewart to tell them whether it was a good idea or not. You can almost hear the audience hesitate to cheer because they aren’t sure he is serious.
ctmom on March 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Good one Jon.
getalife on March 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Well, there should be NO cost to me, unless the do what they should be doing instead of all this extracurricular stuff like Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan.
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM
“shuldnt you want veterans to be as far away from that system as possible?” Uhhh, fix it. Some of us have no choice pinhead.
I can’t believe some of the crap I’ve seen on this thread, but please keep the issue on the front page and the fire stoked.
“socialized medicine” I almost fell out of my chair on that one. Oh and to the guy who said let em suit up and go to the border, I say, hey You know< i earned it once, but if you want me down there I’ll suit up and bring my own gear.
My rules of engagement.
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Good grief. Are you for real?
And by the way, my son is a veteran, and he’s received quite excellent care at the VA hospital in Martinsburg VA hospital. The only reason he uses private physicians is because the hospital is 200 miles away.
scalleywag on March 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Meh. Put me in the ‘blind squirrel / nut’ tent as far as that laugh whore Stewart is concerned.
whitetop on March 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Here’s what I don’t get, where is Biden in all of this? I thought he is suppose to be the guy that loves the military on the ticket!!
deidre on March 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM
People are outraged that vets would be expected to pay for the injuries they receive fighting wars. Surely you understand this.
But no, please make cheap political points with it. It looks super classy.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Not quite. You’re the guy with the knife and the guy you stabbed is an American soldier…except you didn’t stab him in the sternum…you stabbed him in the back.
sdd on March 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
thomasaur on March 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Yes they did. Which gave us a reason to go after Europe first, and which put Lend-Lease to bed. Another one of Hitler’s ‘bold’ moves. Like Operaton Barbarossa.
RickZ on March 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Yikes, I hope theDean didn’t mean my comments, or I hope I’m not misunderstood. The medical care I received as a dependent spouse while active duty was exceptional. Now, in the retiree world, far away from a military facility, I have to deal with doctors who, like the Dean, don’t think retired military personnel are quite cost effective enough to accept as patients. I can only have nightmares trying to think of what you’d have to go through to receive care from the ‘private’ world with a service related injury…
dish on March 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Frankly, you’re an idiot as usual. You haven’t read thru or comprehended the points that have been made. This has nothing to do w/emotion. It has to do w/responsibility. If a hwy worker gets hit by a car while working on a road. Who pays for it? The state. Same thing w/any job-related injury.
Obama trying to outsource our responsibility to private insurance, is an outrage. This is not an argument for socialized medicine as much as you want to make it that. I don’t care if vets receive care at Walter Reed or St. Joe’s, just as long as they aren’t paying for it!
JAM on March 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM
So, you are OK will illegal aliens getting “free” healthcare?
Johan Klaus on March 18, 2009 at 3:07 PM
DeathToMediaHacks on March 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Nah. It started with Jimmah and BJ Clinton helped it right along.
dish on March 18, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Are you just thick? There should be no cost to you? Extracurricular stuff? Soldiers don’t get to choose where they receive their injuries be it in training mission at Camp Pendleton or on a battlefield in Iraq or on our southern border. Don’t be such an *ss!
JAM on March 18, 2009 at 3:11 PM
dude ! sarcasm (you may find it hard to believe but I do know a little bit about WWII)
runner on March 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Well, you could be a Kuwaiti.
Remember, they were the allies we invaded Iraq the first time to aid.
They could be the pilots that were threatened daily by the SAMs in Operation Southern and Northern Watch.
It could be the American People that were led to believe by Saddams own rhetoric that he had WMDs. (Ask Al Gore and John Kerry and Bill Clinton because they all made the same public statements)
It could be the 3000 Americans that were killed in the 9-11 attacks.
It could be the Sailors and Marines in the Cole attack.
Want me to go on?
You know Dean, few people I hate. But you are abhorant. You are the worst of America. It galls me to no end to know that while my unit is deployed fighting against those who would attack us again, you sit in the US on your fat as@ and have nothing to do all day except badmouth those that would die for you. Scratch that, give their life in spite of you. Just remember, if you hear someone from the Army reciting The Soldiers Creed they’re not talking about you.
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Um We dont get SOCIALIZED medicine. We earned it, dumbass. Do you know what I got paid per hour back in 1973 as an E1? On which I was TAXED?
Socialized medicine is providing care and treatment to losers who don’t work or contribute to it.
You have to be a troll
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM
It wouldn’t matter. He a closet “patriot” military hater because Ron Paul told him to hate the military. Dean just repeats what RP tells him too. To include his hatred of Jews.
PS Dean you’re not still running around telling folks you’re a Christian, right?
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 3:17 PM
The men who volunteer do so with this thought-if we dont volunteer there will be a draft.Thats a fact everyone faces when at 18 it is mandatory to sign up for A DRAFT even if the draft is not being utilized right now. I guarentee, if recruiting numbers fall low enough-the draft will be reinstated.
No-The vets deserve better than socialized medicine in my opinion they deserve a card that pays for whatever services whereever they choose to go to treat any injury they have recieved in the line of duty. The VA treatment sucks, but we make do with it. Unless our government is willing to cut a blank check to every injured veteran soldier for their medical care it is all we have. The VA facilities offer specialized care for war injuries, that care would be extremely expensive in non military facilities. To ask that our soldiers pay for additional insurance to pay for this care is preposterous.
canditaylor68 on March 18, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Too little too late Jon Leibowitz.
RobCon on March 18, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Actually, during my time in the service I always looked at military health care as depot-level maintenance for broken government equipment. The military owned us, and when we broke it had to fix us.
Comparing it to socialized medicine as The Dean has been doing is just plain stooopid.
flipflop on March 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Oh, and by the way…wasn’t it Abe Lincoln, to whom Ozero likes to compare himself, the one who created the notion of veterans’ care?
flipflop on March 18, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Looks like this thread has turned into a troll fest.
HornetSting on March 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM
The military is one of the few constitutional agencies that the government runs relatively well. The nature of the military, demands that is run with limited freedoms. The military medical, out of necessity, must be self contained. To suggest that someone put their life and limb in harms way to fight for this country and not be given no cost medical care is ludicrous and immoral.
Johan Klaus on March 18, 2009 at 3:23 PM
@The Dean
Are you even an American? Do you realize that ‘provide for the common defense’ is one of the few powers for the federal govt explicitly layed out by the Constitution? As an American, you are OBLIGATED to pay for the military. Consider it your membership dues. If you don’t like it, then GET THE HELL OUT.
Those dues we pay to the military provide for the freedom we have in this country. Without that, what else is there?
If Obama wants the military to get health care from private industry, then I’m for that as long as the govt pays for it, all of it.
TechieNotTrekkie on March 18, 2009 at 3:24 PM
“Actually, during my time in the service I always looked at military health care as depot-level maintenance for broken government equipment. The military owned us, and when we broke it had to fix us.”
Heh, you are so correct.
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM
there are good military facilities. and personnel. the VA is not the only place that veterans go to receive medical care.
the trolls can say what they want about the military receiving “socialized” healthcare, but alot of what they receive is much better than that. and all over the world, too.
kelley in virginia on March 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM
No, you are the troll.
Buford on March 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I don’t have a fat ass, I’m actually in good shape. Shed most of those college pounds through good old-fashioned determination.
Hate is a strong word. I don’t personally hate Jews, I just detest their behavior, especially the hardline neoconservative factions in Israel and the U.S.A. that have completely taken over our foreign policy and military policy. And of course I’m a Christian. Who said otherwise?
The Dean on March 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM
No news here. Stewart’s handlers at the comedy channel saw an easy opportunity for him to show that he’s not blindly spouting talking points for the Obama administration and made him jump on the chance.
Sign of the Dollar on March 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM
You are incorrect.
German Declaration of War against the U.S., December 11, 1941
aengus on March 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM
People like this Dean idiot are why I abandoned the LP and became a Republican. He’s a little anarcho-capitalist … he won’t be happy unless government is gone, period. Taxing him by any amount to pay for ANYTHING is unacceptable to him.
He wont admit that providing care for wounded veterans is part of the contract between them and the federal government … or even if he does, he whine that they are being helped with stolen funds.
He is beyond being a paul’tard, trust me. Even a minarchist Libertarian ain’t going to bitch about treating veterans who were disabled while performing the duties they had contracted to perform.
Kristopher on March 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM
People like this Dean idiot are why I abandoned the LP and became a Republican. He’s a little anarcho-capitalist … he won’t be happy unless government is gone, period. Taxing him by any amount to pay for ANYTHING is unacceptable to him.
He wont admit that providing care for wounded veterans is part of the contract between them and the federal government … or even if he does, he whine that they are being helped with stolen funds.
He is beyond being a paul’tard, trust me. Even a minarchist Libertarian ain’t going to complain about treating veterans who were disabled while performing the duties they had contracted to perform.
Kristopher on March 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Any troll that would still make the, “Well, they volunteered didn’t they?” argument is not someone who is even worth engaging because you will never get it. I know and have meet service personal who have brains and talent enough to write their own ticket in this world. But what do they choose to do. Put that uniform on every day, year after year and step out into the dangerous world they live in and for what? If you need the answer spelled out to you, you’ll never understand it anyway. So don’t ask.
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Yes, but before we get too excited, the difference between this rant and George W. Bush-aimed rant is that he’s criticizing Obama’s decision, not Obama himself. If this were Bush he’d do a 10 minute diatribe on how stupid Bush is.
Jim-Rose on March 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Aengus: Yep.
Japan declared war on the US on Dec. 7th. Congress declared war on Japan, but not on Germany or Italy.
Italy Declared war on the US … and Hitler reluctantly followed suit.
Congress then declared war on Italy and Germany on Dec. 11th.
Kristopher on March 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Hey, Dean: have you got a response to my situation yet, you attention whore?
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 3:33 PM
dude –
my post @3:12 PM ( I promise to use the sarc tag more often – guess I am not as witty as I think I am )
runner on March 18, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Oh, sorry, you’re a skinny Jew hater. My bad. Burned any crosses lately?
hawkdriver on March 18, 2009 at 3:33 PM
The Dean
thomasaur on March 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM
There is no way, that anyone who has not served in the military, should be allowed to run for president or as a congress critter, be allowed to vote on anything that affects the military.
Johan Klaus on March 18, 2009 at 3:35 PM
…the sour and sorry thing about the blogosphere is that you sometimes find that you’ve strayed off the reservation, out of your own little comfort zone, to find people who not only disagree with you — some of whom can be disagreed with in something approaching civility — but disagree with every notion you might have of humanity, common sense and decency.
…exhibit A:
…couple of factual points:
a. Sorry as it is, elected federal officials (and appointed ones, for that matter), aren’t personally financially responsible for any mistakes they make. If that were so, I’d have a few things to say to Mr. Carter and Mr. Clinton…they’d be writing memoirs until the 22nd Century just to pay me off, let alone anyone else….
b. Congress authorized Mr. Bush to act in the Middle East.
c. Although it may look as if they’re invading us one citizen at a time, Mexico is actually too absorbed with their own problems to be plotting any warlike acts against us. As to the Zetas, cartels, and assorted other villains slopping up from down below, it seems that those who support the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. are the most vociferous in insisting that we do nothing on the southern border…evidence, Ms. Pelosi just today….
d. Citizens don’t get charged/excused from charges on a case-by-case basis for federal actions. You pays your money, they takes all the chances. Imagine the chaos of ACORN-trained folks canvassing rural Iowa to find out if all the Farmer Browns out there voted thumbs up or down on this or that deployment of forces. To suggest it is simply childish.
So, if it’s the cost you object to, move elsewhere. Folks in the Ukraine don’t pay US taxes. Don’t like the war “in your name”? Same remedy. The folks in Yemen, by and large, get along with the bombers in Sadr City just dandy.
…want to stay in the US? Complain all you want, rant, rave, be as foolish as you can be…push the envelope…but realize that you’re surrounded by a great many folks, more mature than you, who have slightly more sophisticated views on things.
…and, as to the vets and their healthcare, come here to the San Antonio area. A lot of those vets, shattered and burned by the enemy — declared or undeclared — are sent here. The “Center for the Intrepid”, for their treatment, is here.
See some guy in gym shorts and a tshirt, running along the street, trying to keep fit as a soldier is expected to do, on a metal leg…see another with no ears or nose, face melted in a shop or in a hospital corridor…see another being pushed by his parents in a wheelchair, face a pitiful, swollen mess, no hands up to mid-forearm, head wrapped in bandages…I was downtown a few years ago, walking by the Alamo, and saw that last one…and I still remember it clearly.
…then contemplate the government saving a few bucks by shunting him to some private insurance plan. As some have suggested, priorities need to be addressed. Millions for the Palestinian Authority? No. Millions for ACORN? No. Millions to pay back teachers unions for their electoral support? No. Millions to buy yet another bank plowed under by someone on a short list to serve in Obama’s treasury? No.
…millions for the soldier, his wife, his widow and his orphans should it come to that? Let ‘em eat baloney and ramen over at public television, charge admission to Yellowstone, and let the mysteries of stem cells go unexplored.
…veterans — combat wounded, peacetime injured, all of ‘em — come first. Period. They’ve earned it.
Puritan1648 on March 18, 2009 at 3:36 PM
It was nice to hear that the idiots in the crowd booooooed when they heard what odumbo plans on doing to our vets.
There is hope…….
Mercy4Me on March 18, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Yawn… This is such a non starter. We all know that soon there will be no need for a military once the American culture, economic system, and rearming our enemies (internal ones primarily) is complete.
bigskinny on March 18, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Bravo.
canditaylor68 on March 18, 2009 at 3:36 PM
runner: Sarcasm in print is a two-edged sword … it’s like trying to use sarcasm in a dull monotone … unless you really pile it on like Jonathan Swift or Sam Clements did, you can’t easily see it in print.
Kristopher on March 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I feel so angry these days, my 23 year old son is a Recon Marine who joined shortly after 9-11, my daughter joined last year when she was only 17 (before the election I might add) and when I think of what this Bastard Obama is doing to these young men and women who deserve our support and the best healthcare that America has to offer, esp when they come back from the front line wounded, just infuriates me and sends me to tears. And its not just because my children are US Marines, but because I have met many of them and they are great kids, some with families of their own who felt called to the military and felt what they were doing was the right thing. This new administration makes me sick. I am mad as hell and not going to take it.
MooreMom on March 18, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Ah, fair enough.
aengus on March 18, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Is that like being a little bit pregnant.
Johan Klaus on March 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Standing ovation for you.
canditaylor68 on March 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Oh yeah, you don’t hate the JOOOOOSSSSS. Parroting that preposterous line that Israel has taken over our foreign policy and military policy(no wonder you don’t want to pay for soldiers) yada, yada. Ok Chomsky. You must be distraught that Chas Freeman got axed? Christian my *ss!
JAM on March 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Zing! Nuff said.
scalleywag on March 18, 2009 at 3:42 PM
…as well you should, mother…as well you should….
…thanks for your kids service. You must’ve raised ‘em right.
Puritan1648 on March 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM
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