Obama administration ditches soak-wounded-vets policy
posted at 5:05 pm on March 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Give Barack Obama his due. He said he wanted to bring unity and bipartisanship to Washington DC … and he succeeded beyond his wild dreams with a hare-brained scheme to charge wounded vets for their service-related injuries. After taking fire from all sides, the Obama administration finally hit full retreat:
The White House on Wednesday backed off a controversial plan that would have dramatically altered the way the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) handles insurance claims, after veterans groups staged an all-out fight against such a proposal.
President Obama will not pursue a proposal that would have allowed the VA to charge private insurance companies for the treatment of veterans with service- and war-related injuries. The proposal raised the ire of prominent Democrats on the House and Senate Veterans Affairs panels. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was the first to publicly announce Wednesday afternoon that the president won’t pursue such proposal.
For a second time in a week, representatives from prominent veterans’ organization went to the White House on Wednesday to meet with the White House chief-of-staff on VA budget issues. On Monday, they met with the president, but that meeting led to a public outcry over what veterans perceived as a move by the president to still consider the proposal despite opposition.
I guess no one at the White House could answer Jon Stewart’s question of “What the %^&* were you guys thinking?” The correct answer was, “We weren’t,” but that’s apparently the same answer they’re using on the AIG bailout and couldn’t risk overdoing it. Instead, they’ll flush it down the memory hole.
Jim Geraghty and I discussed this on today’s show, and Jim made a good point. Certainly we know we’ll disagree on policy with a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress, but that comes from having differing philosophies on governance, economics, and freedom. We can differ on that without assigning malicious motives to political opponents. However, the idea of raising revenues by reneging on our commitment to wounded veterans goes beyond that to a point where you have to question how the person who proposes this can sleep at night. And the truth of that can be seen by the unanimous, loud, and angry criticism directed to Obama, Rahm Emanuel, and General Eric Shinseki from just about everyone who heard about the proposal.
So yes, they’ve pulled the proposal, but it took two meetings at the White House with veterans groups to get the point to sink in. Either this administration has a problem with its intelligence or with its soul.
Update: Nancy Pelosi’s spinning like a top:
“President Obama listened to the genuine concerns expressed by the veteran service organizations regarding the option of billing service-connected injuries to veterans’ insurance companies,” said Pelosi. “Based on the respect President Obama has for veterans and the principle concerns of our veteran leaders, the president made the decision that combat wounds should not be billed through their insurance policies.”
If he respected veterans, he wouldn’t have proposed it in the first place. All this shows is that Obama “respects” the potential for fumbling away any hope of re-election.
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Guys, listen up: He’ll try this again. Now he and the others have shown their true color. Red.
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Third, I was in the Army many moons again, wasn’t there loyal to the Army, I was loyal to my country. And if I thought my country was betraying that dedication, then I too would have gotten out. Almost did. I served under Carter, planned on getting out, then Reagan came in – the change in moral can’t be measured.
klickink.wordpress.com on March 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM
I Agree. I am a Reagan fan and all the salutes he received were given from the bottom of each of the soldier’s heart. When he returned the salute, he did that with a sincere understanding of what they (the soldiers) meant to the defense and freedom of this great country.
OneConservative on March 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM
After this outrage I have no doubt he will try something like this again. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out if this were actually already law and they were just sending out a feeler to gauge reaction to it before it blindsided them. Remember, nobody actually read that 1000 page “stimulus” bill before it was passed. I doubt this is true, but who would really know?
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Barkolounger, DID YOU SERVE?
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 7:49 PM
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Barky won’t answer because that would undermine the whole premise of Anti-Obama=sedition dont’cha know.
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Grow up. If I answer yes the only thing that will satisfy idiots like you is if I give you my name, rank, and last deployment location.
Since I’m not prepared to give you anything close there is no point responding.
barkolounger on March 18, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Then shut up. You are making an ass of yourself.
HornetSting on March 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM
You didn’t serve, you loudmouthed jackass.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Both of you can get lost yourselves.
Did either of you serve? If so post proof or shut up.
I’m not foolish enough to think anyone with half a brain would believe any internet handle using military service they were unprepared to prove as some kind of credential.
You might be so inclined. Not me.
barkolounger on March 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM
barkolounger, you only give up your name and rank.. but for the sake of this thread, I will tell you that I am David F. Gary, served in the USMC, my rank was Sgt. and was in Nam for 18 months, was wounded and am now fighting leftists, libertarians( sit in the middle of the road, you are nothing but road kill) wherever I find them. Because people challenge you does not make them idiots, you’re obfuscation clouds your character, however.
MNDavenotPC on March 18, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Go to cgaalumni.org and search for Alo Konsen in the alumni directory. Or you could Google me.
Your turn, jackass.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 8:09 PM
On this issue I wish to, for the record, post that getalife said he disagreed with O and thought it was a wrong and stupid idea.
.
As Gandalf said, “He remains a Fool, but an Honest Fool.”
GunRunner on March 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM
By now it must be clear to many that this guy will fold in the face of overwhelming firepower.Try again,yes with some dark of the night order,but as with the spent casings issues,our basketball boy will turn on a dime ,holler distraction and wander off on some other pet project. Our government is on auto pilot that is a great. We the people now lead and scare the hell of these CS Cowards. All they really want are a job for self and friends, good poll numbers. Lead from the front and press,press,press.The kid seems like Scarlet saying “fiddle de”.
Col.John Wm. Reed on March 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Mods can you edit the previous posts? And no offense guys you shouldn’t post that stuff. The guy is a turd.
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM
I’m not the one with diarhea of the mouth.
HornetSting on March 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM
personal info, I mean… He could be a psycho.
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 8:13 PM
It’s all Bush’s fault…that’s right, isn’t it?
AUINSC on March 18, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Regrettably, I doubt that Obama was influenced by the American Legion members. The timing suggests it was that moron on the Daily Show who got through those pancake-sized ears.
Y-not on March 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM
I blog under my own name. I fear no twit like Barcolounger. My identity’s been available with a single click on my Hot Air handle all along.
But I’d bet Barcolounger will continue to hide. Any takers?
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Too late. The fact that they brought this up at all – either as a real proposal or as a smokescreen for something else – is unforgivable.
Rusty Bill on March 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM
dogsoldier
I am not afraid…. any who will, come after me.
MNDavenotPC on March 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM
I wish they hadn’t retreated. Sticking to this would create more and more enemies for this “administration”.
Ed, you say that the answer to “what the blank were they thinking” is that they weren’t. Uh, no. They were thinking alright. They are evil Commies who are actively thinking up new evil ways to destroy America. They may be incompetant as well (I pray they are), but they do have evil plans for this nation.
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on March 18, 2009 at 8:39 PM
personal info, I mean… He could be a psycho.
dogsoldier on March 18, 2009 at 8:13 PM
lol, exactly my point. Exactly why asking someone if they served with no intention of believing them without proof, doesn’t warrant a reply. Posting personal information on threads where people are calling for the overthrow of the government by any means including military coup, isn’t wise.
barkolounger on March 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM
“President Obama listened to the genuine concerns expressed by the veteran service organizations regarding the option of billing service-connected injuries to veterans’ insurance companies,” said Pelosi. “Based on the respect President Obama has for veterans and the principle concerns of our veteran leaders, the president made the decision that combat wounds should not be billed through their insurance policies.”
I sense some ‘nuance’ in this statement. First it’s ’sevice-connected injuries’, then it’s ‘combat wounds’. One is a sub-set of the other.
It’s sounds like Obama/Pelosi/any-other-veteran-hating-SOB has been hammered so hard and so fast, they haven’t been able to get the story right yet.
I think that the administration is learning that you _don’t_ p*ss off the military. Good. That’s goes in our favor.
Timothy S. Carlson on March 18, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Barcolounger, I called for no overthrow or coup. All I did was challenge you to muster the gonads to answer a simple question: DID YOU SERVE?
I showed you mine. Show me yours.
Or are you worried you’re under-endowed in this comparison?
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I’ve been away for a couple of days on some personal business. Very personal business actually. I’ve made over 100 phones calls and sent hundreds of emails to veterans and their supporters urging they flood congressional, senate, and white house phones with their outrage over the Obama administrations attempt to kick our veterans to the curb during wartime. Preliminary discussions have taken place regarding a veterans campout on the National mall on 1-April-2009 for you veterans, or April 1st 09 for barkolounge. This would be a reinactment of the WWI veterans encampment after the government reneged on promises made to them.
Good news. The Obama administration for now has buckled under the tremendous backlash being felt from a bipartisan coalition of Veterans, non-veterans, democrats and republican both. I guess for now I won’t be seeing all of you at the national mall but do not let your guard down that some form of screwing the veterans won’t be tried again. Thank you to everyone who helped in even a small way. We vietnam combat vets know how Obama and his cronies are trying to harm our injured warrior. We’ll stand together like we did so many times before and defend the honor of our heros in the US Military whether or not they are still on active duty. Barkolounge probably does’t know what a dd214 is but we vets do.
kanda on March 18, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro = Anti-Christ
byteshredder on March 18, 2009 at 9:06 PM
ha ha ha who let you out of the asylum?
kanda on March 18, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Definition of a wannabee = barkolounge
kanda on March 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Next up, Nancy Pelosi says it’s patriotic to pay for medical insurance for illegal aliens, and it’s criminal to pay medical insurance for veterans.
Daggett on March 18, 2009 at 9:16 PM
1. It’s not like he wasted a lot of time in putting this idea forth. To think this was such a priority in the first two months in office.
2. What would any of them know about the “genuine concerns” of veterans? Oh, I forgot: they might have watched Saving Private Ryan, which is almost the same thing as serving, right?
3. Pretty soon Obama is going to find that he won’t have much of a military left. It happened with Carter. It happened with Clinton. It’ll happen with Obama. If I feel abandoned by my CinC, then it’ll be Fort Couch for me. For example, the day Soldiers fall under the jurisdiction of the ICC, I’m gone, along with many more with me.
4. So, when is Obama going to introduce his “civilian national security force”? (After he destroys the military I’m sure.)
Send_Me on March 18, 2009 at 9:22 PM
He doesn’t hate the military. He doesn’t understand the military. He doesn’t understand service to one’s country beyond political party and backdoor deals. It’s an afterthought for him. The military is for his benefit when it’s convenient, not something for him to serve and take care of. He’s not an ass****, he’s a dumbass.
Well, maybe he is both. With all DUE respect.
JeffinOrlando on March 18, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Barkolounger… I am asking for us to do what Thomas Jefferson and others thought prudent…. to change the regime when the populace is burdened by the government such as now. If you wish to call it an overthrow … so be it… but your bluff was called and you failed…..
MNDavenotPC on March 18, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Well, Dean? I think you decided to shut up because you can’t put up.
Somebody hand Dean a white feather.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 9:40 PM
You really need to do a little study and learn what socialized medicine is. Providing medical care to our military forces is not an example of socialized medicine. We also give our soldiers guns, but thats not a socialized firearms program.
But another reason why we don’t want socialized medicine is because we have many examples of government run programs and the colossal and fantastically expensive failures they always become. Take the public schools for example, did you know that before government ran public schools existed that America had the finest schools on the planet? Then the government took over and we have almost the worst schools on the planet…. but they are fantastically expensive.
Of course another problem is that once socialized medicine takes over, if you get too sick, they will simply kill you. Can’t have any one person sucking up all the resources from the collective you know. Think I’m kidding? Read up on the socialized medicine system in the Netherlands.
Maxx on March 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM
kanda donates to ohiocoastie a white hankie and says “sorry about the boogers but it’s for a good cause”.
kanda on March 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
At least they seperate “service” and “war related”.
I know more “service-related” disabled vets who fell off barstools and are now collecting “disability” and government goodies as “disabled vets”, than I can count. Biggest scam going.
One thing I kinda agreed with Obama on and he’s abandoning it.
NoDonkey on March 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Oops. Not Dean. I meant Barcolounger.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Well you better get out of here then while you still can. Do you think you are anonymous? I can assure you, you are not. There are these things call IP addresses, and Obama’s got yours. Run along now, before the CIA breaks down your door.
Maxx on March 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Told ya he wouldn’t man up.
AMH2 Arey AKA Sgt Arey. 6 years Navy 94-00 2 years Army 04-06.
10 months in Iraq with a tour cut short by an (unlucky on my part) IED 31 oct 2005 on or about 1730 hours MSR anaconda.
I earned the right to be proud and outspoken, barky. What have you ever done? I am not afraid of some words on my computer screen. I am not afraid of retaliation or intimidation. Come and get me unhinged lefties or Obama’s jackboot thugs.
Obama sucks.
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Agreed. Obama sucks.
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM
NoDonkey on March 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Thats probably the most insulting thing I have read on this website.
Friggest though and the steed that bore thee hence.
I’d be willing to bet my tiny government stipend that you can’t back up your statement.
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 10:12 PM
TSgt (E6) William W. Hughes, ex-United States Air Force (’75-’79, ‘81-’91). I was in Sand Country before it had a catchy name like Operation Iraqi Freedom; ‘87-’88 to be specific. The name and rank are accessible to anyone who can click on my nym; it’s on my website (grey box, toward the bottom of the home page, under the Texas flag).
Your turn, Barco.
Rusty Bill on March 18, 2009 at 10:15 PM
It is true that you are NoDonkey, you sir are Straight Up Ass.
- The Cat
MirCat on March 18, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 10:12 PM
I screwed up my snarky insult, dammit. Screw it, I doubt it would have registered with the soul-less jackals it was intended for anyway.
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Wait, it’s been 3 pages and no one’s yet to say.
RACIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSST!!!!!!
- The Cat
MirCat on March 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Yoohoo! Barcolounger! Anybody home?
OhioCoastie on March 18, 2009 at 10:30 PM
OhioCoastie on March 18, at 10:30 PM
Forget him, bub. Another wannabe who got smoked out.
Back in the day, when I used to frequent the AOL chat rooms, it was just about a cottage industry, exposing these butt-bags. Not so much, any more. And that’s fine by me.
irongrampa on March 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Respect is very, very indignant.
Pinocchio, Machiavelli and Münchhausen are laughing their arses off.
Entelechy on March 18, 2009 at 10:40 PM
A lot of us have attributed a lot of different things to Obama over this insult to our veterans. I don’t think it was any more than a stealth tax increase. I just think the turdballs in Washington are trying to dream up any scheme they can to get their grubby hands deeper into our pockets.
Hawthorne on March 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Watch out for Tatic # 2 of Demo play book: They will now try to make it happen using some back door tatic. Trust me they will not give up.
Dire Straits on March 18, 2009 at 10:53 PM
I’ve been laughing for the last 5 minutes. Kudos ha ha ha ha ha!!!
kanda on March 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
I think he fell asleep in his natural habitat on the ummm…barkolounge
kanda on March 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Hawthorne on March 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM
You are kidding, right? Is there a smaller group of people in the entire electorate that Obama could have targeted than those that have actually suffered injury at the hands of our enemies? He wanted to force the men and women who recieved injuries in COMBAT to pay for their own medical care. That is not “our” pockets. That is the pocket of combat veterans. Combat veterans comprise a small percentage of a small percentage of our entire society. Don’t try and minimize this insult.
Mord on March 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Hey barkolounger, read all about how wonderful your socialized medicine is here.
The British government apologised Wednesday after a damning official report into a hospital likened by one patient’s relative to “a Third World” health centre.
Maxx on March 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Whoever proposed this stupid idea should be fired.
getalife on March 18, 2009 at 11:17 PM
dthorny on March 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM
FIFY!
Oh, and we certainly disagree on many things, but it is nice to be able to agree on the value we place on our troops :^)
Laura in Maryland on March 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM
I finally understood what was driving this when I saw a commenter over at kos defending it on the grounds that it was only going to make the private insurance that veterans already own reimburse the VA, and that veterans were not going to be forced to buy private insurance.
I simply couldn’t believe anyone could be so stupid. The concern is not that soldiers will be forced to buy private insurance. The concern is that they won’t be able to get any private insurance.
I mean, where do these people think the money comes from? It’s obvious what will happen- private insurance companies will raise their prices so high that soldiers can’t buy private insurance- not only them, but any woman who’s married to a soldier too.
They suddenly won’t be able to afford health coverage for non-service related health care, and the VA won’t save any money, because now they will have to get VA health care, and the VA won’t get any refunds from private insurance because the soldiers won’t have any!
Stupidity. Such stupidity. Why can’t they grasp that life is dynamic not static, and that if you change one thing, everything reacts to that change. You can’t change just one thing in isolation.
Sackett on March 18, 2009 at 11:34 PM
I know everyone is going to get all ants in the pants about this (for whatever boring reason), but I love it when stuff like this happens. The Executive Branch had a stupid idea, the people got mad (rightfully), and the policy changed. Democracy in action, suckaz! USA! USA!
Proud Rino on March 18, 2009 at 11:51 PM
In a word no. However, AFAIK if you do not have health insurance you can take advantage of the VA medical services with a copay/fee. I do not believe that you have to have a service connected disability to take advantage of this. If you have a service connected disability than health care is determined based on the level/severity of the disability. This may or may not limit you to “free” treatment only for that disability. If you are medically discharged then you receive health care as long as you live. I am currently in the process of having my “disability” reevaluated. I believe the “magic” number is 30%
barfolounger, this is in no way “UHC” for vets, it is earned. That you do not know the difference is a strong indicator that you’ve never served. And were I still serving I would be planning on getting out as soon as my enlistment was up. If you feel so strongly about serving the messiah by all means drag yourself down to the nearest recruiting office and enlist.
jdkchem on March 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM
That would be the magic back injury. I personally knew of 2 people who used that to get medical discharges. The silliness of all of it was that had they just done their time they would have been out before the medical board was completed. Since they had a “severe” back injury they could not be discharged, dumb.
jdkchem on March 19, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Getalife.
I respect you for saying what you just said.
Well Done.
GunRunner on March 19, 2009 at 12:38 AM
Time for Shinseki to go, for agreeing to even back this idea. Maybe he and Geithner can leave at the same time…
Kevin71 on March 19, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Gonna be a long four years, gentlemen.
Rollie on March 19, 2009 at 1:59 AM
I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed you military guys showing bark-o exactly where he could stick his comments. The guy looked like a pincushion after all those posts. Obama reminds me of a 12 year old trying to run a corporation with his parent’s help. They tell him what to do, he screws it up, he gets yelled at, he cries, he goes back to mommy, and the whole sordid process starts all over again. The Democrats and lapdog media are going to pay big time for this disaster. Every Republican campaign ad will say, “so and so is just another Obama….you don’t want THAT again, do ya?”.
Well, I’m off to convert my 401K to gold and bury it in the yard.
gordo on March 19, 2009 at 3:12 AM
God Bless the veterans organizations that made the arguments for our soldiers and nation
Thank you for your efforts. You have proven your value
entagor on March 19, 2009 at 3:27 AM
Incompetence, thy name is Obama!
pilamaye on March 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM
The biggest scam going is the financial mess started by the Community Reinvestment Act. How many trillions has that cost us? The CRA is still being defended by Barney Frank and used to force banks to make bad loans. Retirees have been robbed the most by this well-intended but failed government policy.
But let’s see what you said on an earlier thread:
Service is not like a civilian job. Servicemen and women give up more freedom than in any civilian job. They can be ordered into a combat or war zone at any time. They cannot sue for injuries. They can be denied sleep or rest except for four hours out of 24, and if they have special duties, they may not get that much. If a serviceman, taken from family and friends, sent to a distant country, made to work 20 hours a day in a cargo bay, falls off a bar stool in an off moment and hurts himself… why then the American public owes that man a debt. Whether he helped us stay prepared for defense, kept those in combat areas supplied or risked combat himself, the public makes special obligations in return for a stint of near-complete servitude. As Jon Stewart pointed out, that is what has been promised and it is very FAIR.
Requiring a serviceman to pay money out of his own pocket (such as a 20% PPO copay) for an injury received while in the service is neither fair nor just. He had to surrender rights and privileges; in return we the public made a promise to take care of him.
NoDonkey, you are a terrible Demo shill. That is why I ask you, in all sincerity: Please keep up this line of argument. I want every veteran, and friends and family of veterans to know that Democrats have no intention of keeping faith with them. The mid-term elections will come soon.
Consanescerion on March 19, 2009 at 7:17 AM
If they can turn his complete transcript rhetoric into a simple “I hope he fails,” they would have a field day this. For him to just be garnering popular military opinion, they would paint it in the worst and embellish it. Inciting insurrection and or mutiny is against the law. Bad idea.
Also, throwing your real names out there for barkolounger I think was a bad idea also. If he did he serve he would have said so. I’m not sure he even inferred.
barkolounger, I’m not sure what you are, but I agree with Vanceone. You sure sound like a Moby whose aim is to make the thread sound like Hot Air commenter’s are inciting a mutiny. Bush-bashing comes out in a Moby thread so easily and IDs them like holding a cross in front of a vampire. You guys can’t help yourselves. Also, what horror show were you referring to?
As far as Stop-Loss, do you even understand how that works? President Bush and his administration never said to prevent everyone from getting out. They gave commanders of deploying units authority keep key and vital members of their organizations intact for the big jump. There is also Stop Movement. It can keep members of the organization from PCSing or going to a school that would keep them from deploying. I know of no soldier in any of our organizations that went off the deep end because one of our commanders Stop Lossed or used Stop Movement on them. Additionally, any soldier has the right to petition the command with a memorandum for record requesting an exception to policy for the SL, SM.
The mast majority of service personnel I know do not trust his motivation or ability to lead. There is gigantic talk in the ranks about getting out after our deployment. Again, very Moby-like argument on your part.
Why? Your comments were condescending towards an active duty service member and “any” grunt, squid, jarhead, coastie or zoomie would be saying to him or herself, who the heck is this guy to be demanding obedience? “Hmm, I wonder if he even served himself.” Perfectly natural question that I see you managed to skip out on without even definitively answering.
Made me wonder!
hawkdriver on March 19, 2009 at 7:18 AM
Barkolounger, that applies to you too: Please keep reminding us why the American populace cannot trust Democrats or liberals to keep the country safe or keep faith with its wounded heroes.
Consanescerion on March 19, 2009 at 7:23 AM
No, their true color is YELLOW.
He did not catch ENOUGH heat for this!
jrab01 on March 19, 2009 at 7:39 AM
Not only is Bella Pelosi spinning like a top, but it’s evidently Rahm Emanuel’s *job* to co-opt any “approved” media (like the Daily Show, MS-NBC or the Washington Post) before they have a chance to crystallize a common theme (namely the one we’ve been commenting about on HotAir since the beginning of this adminstration).
Next task: Start to pin down Rahm, expose his slipping & sliding, so that *he* starts having to answer for his own behavior; he’s no innocent here. (Perhaps the John Stewarts of the world can be bothered to probe this, perhaps not.)
So: Where’s Bark-n-Lounge been for the past 8+ hours?
Either this is the “lounge” phase — with the “bark” phase to resume any time now — at which time The Coastie is owed a Yes-or-No answer to his very fair question — or else I will take Bark-n-Lounge’s silence as a “No”.
RD on March 19, 2009 at 8:20 AM
Once a Moby is called for what he or she is, they normally don’t come back. I was surprized how quickly Ed put the ban-hammer on the last one.
It keeps me on the straight and narrow. ;-)
hawkdriver on March 19, 2009 at 8:27 AM
Fair enough. As he personally publicly announced his plan to
screwsoak our heroes I might believe he has given up on his stupid idea when he personally announces his flip/flop of his idea.Has anyone seen him redact his idea?
DannoJyd on March 19, 2009 at 8:30 AM
Me too! :-)
Touche. I suppose they’ve just got to stumble on the right way to “sell” this treachery (black market perhaps? I know a guy who knows a guy…), and then everything’ll fall into place for them (”say Rahm, what’s the internal polling on this? Nuts — everyone’s against this thing? (Why are they taking it so godd-mn seriously?!) Sh-t, how’m I gonna pull this off now? Rahhhhhh–mmm!!!!”).
Agree we’ve got to keep the heat on. I’m telling everyone I know about this horsesh-t.
RD on March 19, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Just another BARACKY HORROR SHOW episode. Smacks of Michelle Obama, isn’t that her field of expertise? Maybe they both drank a little of their own kool-aide?
He starts these little brush fires and then gets on the road…. CA stumping today and Camp David for the weekend (important to have his girls get Spring Break. (ya’ know)
How much time does he have left?
torrejranne on March 19, 2009 at 9:43 AM
Looks like the ribbing by Jonny Stewart worked.
RepubChica on March 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM
I love this site. It’s so satisfying to associate with people who think clearly, have traditional morals, and dish out irreverent humor toward every harebrained leftist idea in sight.
OhioCoastie on March 19, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Eye ever on the prize…
Think.. National Security Force (watch future budgets for funding)
Weaken military.. pay less for re-upment, charge soldiers for medical care..change oath to fealty to president and not to Constitution?… fewer enlistments, less military funding all around…
Think.. Acorn which has proven it’s value when Detroit voted 100%..
Take back the vote in 2012? Republicans need a similar organization whose goal is to be at every polling place to ensure no ballot boxes are stuffed or ballots discarded or
dead people are voting. Without that, 2012 is Acorn’s dream and our nightmare.
Take note from his friend Chavez.. President for life?
Be sure there are plans afoot.. do not think this little military excursion into unjust medical charges are anywhere near the goal they have in mind.
mollymack on March 19, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Morale?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw
poplicola on March 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Bull shit
I dont believe obama for one second..
No he is just shocked that over 2/3 of americans were pissed off at his nasty liberal ass..
He knew we are about to revolt..
The democraps better be ready and the repoublicans too
we are PISSED AT ALL OF THEM..
jcila on March 19, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Our idiot troll Barcolounger’s back.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/19/videos-ron-paul-and-michelle-on-congresss-phony-aig-outrage-and-bogus-bonus-tax/
OhioCoastie on March 20, 2009 at 1:44 AM
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