Nuclear option back on the table: Obama going after filibusters

posted at 5:30 pm on March 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

And not on confirmations, either, but on legislation.  Peter Orszag, Barack Obama’s budget director, says the White House won’t take off the table an option to push through its legislative agenda using the “reconciliation” process.  It would keep Republicans from stopping bills on taxes, budgets, and global warming:

The White House budget director said Tuesday that the Obama administration may take advantage of a rarely used congressional rule that would strip Republicans of their filibuster power to get some controversial proposals through the Senate by simple majorities.

Peter Orszag told reporters that the White House would prefer not to use the “reconciliation” process, which allows measures to pass on simple majority votes, a tactic that’s being considered for global-warming and health-care proposals.

But he added that the rule has been used on controversial tax bills going back to Ronald Reagan. “We’re not taking it off the table,” he said.

When the Republicans tried to roll this out in 2005 and apply it to judicial confirmations, Democrats promised blood in the streets on Capitol Hill, and only meant it somewhat figuratively.  They pledged to dismantle the Senate by parliamentary procedure and make sure nothing got out of Congress.  In the end, Bill Frist didn’t have enough votes to win and never pulled the trigger.

Now that they have a majority, Democrats want to eliminate the filibuster for legislation – a different kettle of fish.  I still think that the filibuster is inappropriate for presidential appointments, but for legislature, it has a long and varied history.  While it got used to block significant reforms in civil rights for decades, it also kept Congress from getting taken over by extremists and forced compromise that kept the legislature from whipsawing on policy.

If Democrats try trotting that out, Republicans have to deliver on the threats from Democrats in 2005.  They should insist on all bills getting read on the floor in their entirety, which will bring Congress to a halt in short order.  Every motion should get an objection and a forced vote.  But if the Republicans do fight it, they’d better be prepared to win the media war over it as well, explaining that the Democrats want to force through radical legislation that would never get through otherwise.  If the GOP doesn’t prepare to win the media war, get ready for a backlash on obstructionism.

I’d bet that the Democrats back away from this threat, but if they don’t, we’d better see John McCain in the forefront of this fight after his Gang of 14 nonsense in 2005.

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I’m not a truther, but it sure seems like he’s trying to ramrod everything through before something catches up to him.

cryptojunkie on March 17, 2009 at 6:28 PM

That “something” is the potential for anything resembling the original constitutional republic being re-established. The idea is to make it impossible for anybody but a socialist to ever again hold power in opposition to the State, and that will best be accomplished within two years.

Blacklake on March 17, 2009 at 7:21 PM

So much for the “hope” of bipartisanship.

redfoxbluestate on March 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM

If the GOP loses the first media war over this, sadly, that’s pretty much a guarantee, they should fall back and say fine, the results are all on the Democrats, just like they wanted and hang them with it over and over again.

aikidoka on March 17, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Which brings up a question. Does anyone in GOP circles actually strategize? Do they ever think long term, with fall back positions and adjust as conditions require and yet maintain as much momentum as possible? Seems to me it’s a bunch of flailing about from moment to moment and has been for some time now.

aikidoka on March 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM

“I won” means this country will soon have a King in all but name. The scheming, corrupt Democrat Party will willingly place all authority into the hands of a inept, megalomaniac who will continue to drive this country into Third World status.

SeniorD on March 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Crap, all legislation should be read in its entirety anyway. It would reduce the size and scope of legislation and provide the limits to government that the constitution has been unable to accomplish.

TexAz on March 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM

The democrats are partisan at all! I’ll give them credit. They know how to be sore winners. If only Republicans would do this when THEY win!

SouthernGent on March 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM

“I won” means this country will soon have a King in all but name. The scheming, corrupt Democrat Party will willingly place all authority into the hands of a inept, megalomaniac who will continue to drive this country into Third World status.

SeniorD on March 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM

52%
leading to a king?

“good luck”

sven10077 on March 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Republicans not needed in the Politburo

ObamatheMessiah on March 17, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Olympia Snowe sees nothing wrong with this. Susan Collins was awakened from her nap and rolled back over claiming “no big deal”, and old Arnie Spector doesn’t understand the fuss.

FireBlogger on March 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM

The White House budget director said Tuesday that the Obama administration may take advantage of a rarely used congressional rule that would strip Republicans of their filibuster power to get some controversial proposals through the Senate by simple majorities.

We hear praise of a power-wielding, arm-twisting President who “gets his program through Congress” by knowing the use of power. Throughout the course of history, there have been many other such wielders of power. There have even been dictators who regularly held plebiscites, in which their dictatorships were approved by an Ivory-soap-like percentage of the electorate. But their countries were not free, nor can any country remain free under such despotic power. Some of the current worship of powerful executives may come from those who admire strength and accomplishment of any sort. Others hail the display of Presidential strength simply because they approve of the result reached by the use of power. This is nothing less than the totalitarian philosophy that the end justifies the means If ever there was a philosophy of government totally at war with that of the Founding Fathers, it is this one.
- Barry Goldwater

MB4 on March 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Defeat the SCUM! Grow a pair and stop this garbage any way you can or resign and we’ll find someone who will.

Sporty1946 on March 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM

we’d better see John McCain in the forefront of this fight after his Gang of 14 nonsense in 2005

Gulp! How do you think we get into this mess in the first place? He killed the First Amendment with McCain-Feingold and the Dems raised a billion in dirty money. Doh! If he steps up one more time, it will be the end of the Republic.

FalseProfit on March 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM

the republicans will step up alright…step up, bend over, and grab the ankles…

right4life on March 17, 2009 at 10:03 PM

McCain leading the fight? Fat chance! Even if he does attempt to show some sort of leadership, it is a bit late for that now.

McCain should have won, but his choices forbade that. Instead, he will continue to tell us how Da Bama is rignt … again!!!

RINO hunt 2010

DannoJyd on March 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM

It’s the citizens that need to ‘pull the trigger’ and permanently end these quasi-aristocratic politicians’ careers.

Oh….I forgot….Americans are a bunch of pathetic lazy cowards….you’re all an utter POS disgrace to the legacy of the Founding Fathers.

Suck It Up you losers. Everything that happens is your fault. It doesn’t matter if you think of yourself as a “conservative” or whatever dumbass label you wish to self-apply….YOU ARE TO BLAME.

YOU ARE ALL WEAK COWARDLY SCUM THAT HAVE BETRAYED AMERICA

LimeyGeek on March 17, 2009 at 11:34 PM

How many times does this have to be said. The Left, and Obama in specifics, are interested in one thing and one thing only, political power.

Removing the filibuster now will grant them more power, so it is a good thing. Restricting it in any fashion 4 years ago would have limited their power, so then it was a bad thing.

This is the pattern we’ve seen, and this is merely a particularly disgusting example of it.

18-1 on March 17, 2009 at 11:55 PM

YOU ARE ALL WEAK COWARDLY SCUM THAT HAVE BETRAYED AMERICA

LimeyGeek on March 17, 2009 at 11:34 PM

so LimeyGreek are you trying to say something?

sven10077 on March 18, 2009 at 12:37 AM

SeniorD on March 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Driving this nation into Third World status is impossible, as it is impossible to develop China or India to be a First World nation.

There are some things they are not going to adopt – quality(China) or not making their citizens second class(US, China).

sethstorm on March 18, 2009 at 12:42 AM

We are living under a tyranny, fascist government. We will never recover. By the time of the 2010 elections, it will be all over. Just like P.T. Barnum said years ago, there is one (sucker) born every minute. John Q. Public is dumber than a sack of hammers and they are allowed to vote.

cjs1943 on March 18, 2009 at 1:14 AM

Hide your guns, and have a good story of what happened to them.

darktood on March 18, 2009 at 3:12 AM

Oh….I forgot….Americans are a bunch of pathetic lazy cowards….you’re all an utter POS disgrace to the legacy of the Founding Fathers.

Suck It Up you losers. Everything that happens is your fault. It doesn’t matter if you think of yourself as a “conservative” or whatever dumbass label you wish to self-apply….YOU ARE TO BLAME.

YOU ARE ALL WEAK COWARDLY SCUM THAT HAVE BETRAYED AMERICA

LimeyGeek on March 17, 2009 at 11:34 PM

No, he’s repeating this on as many threads as possible. Can’t tell whether this is a wake up call or he’s just run out of original things to say.

College Prof on March 18, 2009 at 4:27 AM

Since when has there been a backlash for the government doing nothing? I think folks probably wouldn’t mind right now if Congress sat on its hands for a few months.

Sultry Beauty on March 18, 2009 at 4:49 AM

Limey had a few too many on St Patty’s Day.

eaglewingz08 on March 18, 2009 at 7:09 AM

Gulp! How do you think we get into this mess in the first place? He killed the First Amendment with McCain-Feingold and the Dems raised a billion in dirty money. Doh! If he steps up one more time, it will be the end of the Republic.

FalseProfit on March 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM

A belief in the essential goodness and/or “conservatism” of any given RINO — much less John “We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House” McCain, the Lord High King of All RINOs, Everywhere — is a certain sign that the individual expressing said belief is either fundamentally dishonest, or else simply slower than a hundred yard dash between Michael Moore and Stephen Hawking. ;)

Kent18 on March 18, 2009 at 7:12 AM

As Kipling said in 1899, it’s just The Old Issue

All we have of freedom, all we use or know–
This our fathers bought for us long and long ago.

Ancient Right unnoticed as the breath we draw–
Leave to live by no man’s leave, underneath the Law.

Lance and torch and tumult, steel and grey-goose wing
Wrenched it, inch and ell and all, slowly from the King.

Till our fathers ‘stablished,, after bloody years,
How our King is one with us, first among his peers.

So they bought us freedom-not at little cost–
Wherefore must we watch the King, lest our gain be lost.

Over all things certain, this is sure indeed,
Suffer not the old King: for we know the breed.

***************************

Here is naught unproven–here is naught to learn.
It is written what shall fall if the King return.

He shall mark our goings, question whence we came,
Set his guards about us, as in Freedom’s name.

He shall take a tribute, toll of all our ware;
He shall change our gold for arms–arms we may not bear.

He shall break his Judges if they cross his word;
He shall rule above the Law calling on the Lord.

He shall peep and mutter; and the night shall bring
Watchers ‘neath our window, lest we mock the King –

Hate and all division; hosts of hurrying spies;
Money poured in secret, carrion breeding flies.

Strangers of his counsel, hirelings of his pay,
These shall deal our Justice: sell-deny-delay.

We shall drink dishonour, we shall eat abuse
For the Land we look to–for the Tongue we use.

********************************

Here is nought at venture, random nor untrue
Swings the wheel full-circle, brims the cup anew.

Here is naught unproven, here is nothing hid:
Step for step and word for word–so the old Kings did!

Step by step, and word by word: who is ruled may read.
Suffer not the old Kings: for we know the breed–

All the right they promise–all the wrong they bring.
Stewards of the Judgment, suffer not this King!

SDN on March 18, 2009 at 7:25 AM

For Global Warming legislation we should simply do away with Congress entirely and let The One pass it by dictatorial fiat.

I have seen An Inconvenient Truth and if we don’t let the Dear Leader act soon, the oceans will rise, the sky will turn black and brown, and all the worst bits of the Bible will come to pass. Probably on Tuesday.

According to the Prophecy (Goracle 12:24).

/sarc

Ares on March 18, 2009 at 7:27 AM

Peter Orszag, Barack Obama’s budget director, says the White House won’t take off the table an option to push through its legislative agenda using the “reconciliation” process. It would keep Republicans from stopping bills on taxes, budgets, and global warming:

LOL. Too funny.

Republicans stopping anything! I must be at comedy central. The Repubs can’t stop anything. They have and will continue to pass all of Obama’s bills. Snowe, Collins and Specter will guarantee it. Yet we spend our time yelling at Dems for being Dems. The enemy is us.

Obama and crew are considering this approach not to prevent Repubs from blocking stupid bills, but from over riding Dems for crossing party lines and joining with the remaining Repubs and blocking legislation. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Repub party. Obama takes those three Senate votes for granted, as well he should.

I have said before the only way Pelosi, Reid and Obama bills fail is because they are so outrageous that even the unified Dems vote against them.

patrick neid on March 18, 2009 at 9:11 AM

Can’t tell whether this is a wake up call or he’s just run out of original things to say.

College Prof on March 18, 2009 at 4:27 AM

It would be a wake up call if I actually thought it would make a dent in your apathy. I don’t. Ultimately it’s just me venting the same old exasperation that builds up from time-to-time.

Dismiss it as “unoriginal” and get back to your uselessness.

LimeyGeek on March 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

Troll Feeder on March 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM

If Reagan used it, I’m sure it made peoples lives better.
If Obama uses it, I’m getting @%&$# in the ass yet again.

elderberry on March 18, 2009 at 2:30 PM

this is the trust issue..

Something is ROTTEN in Washington
and it starts with
OBAMA and just rolls downhill

so when they start this crap i really believe we will need to start reaching too

For our guns..

jcila on March 18, 2009 at 4:11 PM

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