The bailout backlash problem

posted at 11:36 am on March 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The New York Times writes carefully today about a growing concern in the White House over a backlash on its bailouts for private industry.  Adam Nagourney notes that a rising populist anger against financial institutions and leaders make the subsidies fraught with political peril.  He fails to note, however, the people who spent the last two years stoking all of that populist anger:

The Obama administration is increasingly concerned about a populist backlash against banks and Wall Street, worried that anger at financial institutions could also end up being directed at Congress and the White House and could complicate President Obama’s agenda.

The administration’s sharp rebuke of the American International Group on Sunday for handing out $165 million in executive bonuses — Lawrence H. Summers, director of the president’s National Economic Council, described it as “outrageous” on “This Week” on ABC — marks the latest effort by the White House to distance itself from abuses that could feed potentially disruptive public anger. …

Beyond that, a shifting political mood challenges Mr. Obama’s political skills, as he seeks to acknowledge the anger without becoming a target of it. A central question for Mr. Obama is whether his cool style — “in a time of crisis, we cannot afford to govern out of anger,” he said in his address to Congress last month — will prove effective when the country may be feeling more emotional.

Even as Mr. Summers was denouncing A.I.G. for the bonuses, he suggested that there was little if anything the government could do to stop them, seconding the conclusion of Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner. But even if their reasoning was legally sound, they also risked having the administration look ineffectual in the face of what Mr. Summers said was the worst financial abuse of the last 18 months, since the economy began turning down in earnest.

“Never underestimate the capacity of angry populism in times of economic stress,” said Robert Reich, a professor of public policy at the University of California, Berkeley, and labor secretary under President Bill Clinton. “A big challenge for President Obama will be to maintain a rational and tactical public discussion in the midst of this severe downturn. The desire for culprits at times like this is strong.”

Both Nagourney and Reich seem to have suffered from amnesia.  The angry populism in the electorate didn’t begin with the bailouts, or the economic crisis.  Democrats spent the last two years — really, the last six years — stoking that anger and attempting to turn it into electoral gold.

The turn towards populism began with John Edwards in the 2004 election, with his “Two Americas” nonsense.  He tried his best to gin up as much class-warfare anger as he could, and almost built it high enough to use half of a term in the Senate as a springboard to the White House, losing out to John Kerry in the 2004 primaries.  Kerry tried harnessing Edwards’ populism but fell short of the presidency.

In this past election, Edwards again tried his Two Americas schtick, but eventually both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton stole his thunder.  Obama spent a lot of his time railing against high profits in the oil industry, for instance, as a means to gain support for windfall-profits taxes.  Obama made more successful use of populist anger against institutions of wealth and power than anyone since Jimmy Carter, winning a clear majority largely on the basis of his populist rhetoric in a time of economic crisis.

Now he’s worried that his partnership with his former targets will damage him politically.  Obama may be belatedly discovering some ancient wisdom: a rabble, once roused, is very difficult to un-rouse.  Provoking anger and class warfare is a dangerous game, one that usually burns the person who set the torch as much as anyone else.

Michelle has more on how that populist anger has begun to focus on Obama.  We can expect more of this as the economy sinks.  Just wait until people finally realize that class warfare is all Obama has in his arsenal.

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I personally do not have any anger over paying for bonuses for executives after they run a company into the ground. What are they talking about?

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Ploy by NYT to stoke the anti-business class warfare. Propagandists strike again.

marklmail on March 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM

The backlash is going to break some necks careers.

So be it. Can’t happen fast enough.

Yoop on March 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I also might add, that these so called “profits” that are being turned by the biggest loser companies may merely reflect the fact they canned half their work forces. Not really good news at all. I truly QUESTION THE TIMING!

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

There are two America’s…the elected officials and the fungus that live off them…and the rest of us.
Even the most ardent democrats are beginning to realize that the democrats in office are worried only about two things…expanding government and being re-elected, at any cost.

right2bright on March 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Angry at AIG? Nope.

Angry at politicians bailing out AIG? Yep.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

How exactly does a President shovel trillions of dollars to private industry, when he got elected spouting Marxist-Leninist drivel?

Answer: When the MSM is a running dog lackey, for said President.

However, the MSM can’t cover up the fact that the emperor has no clothes.

NoDonkey on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Change is all we have left.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM

There are two America’s…the elected officials and the fungus that live off them…and the rest of us.
right2bright on March 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

More simply, private employees(ers) versus public employee(ers).
The privates need a strong economy to have a secure future. The public just needs to reach into your wallet.

WashJeff on March 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Angry at AIG? Nope.

Angry at politicians bailing out AIG? Yep.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Nailed it.

bluelightbrigade on March 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

The turn towards populism began with John Edwards in the 2004 election, with his “Two Americas” nonsense.

Whaddya mean nonsense? There are two Americas: one that’s boinked Rielle Hunter, and one that hasn’t.

Akzed on March 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Why is there never any mention of backlash against the government for helping propagate the whole financial crisis, for attempting to take over the private sector, and for promising to confiscate the wealth of productive Americans for the purposes of social engineering?

What do they think the Tea Parties are all about?

BigD on March 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Ed, here’s an interesting piece from the UK Telegraph arguing against bank bailouts.

EnglishMike on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Remember when “Reach Across the Aisle” McCain would not attack The Messiah for Rev. Wright, Rezko, Bill Ayers, “…this is the first time I’m proud of my country” Michelle? Well that jerk lost – and now we are stuck with Bozo Big Ears NitWit Obama who’s only apparent concern is continually spending our money…..

Cinday Blackburn on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

While I’m concerned about the economy, and whlie I realize that Obama has a hand in driving it downward, the American people are stalwart enough to persist and get on top of this. For that reason, I’m mighty hesitant to tie the state of the economy to Obama. Rather, it’d be smarter, and more direct and accurate, to tie the state of freedom to Obama.

beatcanvas on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM

The Bonus Clause in the contract for AIG executives must read something like this, if we are to believe AIG’s argument for dishing out $65 million dollars in bonuses:

Executives are entitled to receive no less than $1 million or no more than $6 million in bonuses, even if the company tanks and loses $500 billion in assets.

Otherwise, I don’t see how AIG has a leg to stand on.

fogw on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Just wait till all those bho voters find out how much more taxes they will be paying. Those voters, 95%, who bho told them NO NEW taxes. It won’t just be the R’s upset, but the D’s too.
L

letget on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Why is there never any mention of backlash against the government for helping propagate the whole financial crisis, …
BigD on March 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Because our government caaaareeessss about us and our kids.

WashJeff on March 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Somewhere, Mary Shelley is saying “See, I tried to warn you.”

AubieJon on March 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Don’t worry, Obama has a boogey man waiting in the wings:
from pg. 5 of his budget

While middle-class families have been playing
by the rules, living up to their responsibilities as
neighbors and citizens, those at the commanding
heights of our economy have not.

Enter the evil high earner.

ctmom on March 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I heard over the weekend that someone in the Obama administration was trying to tell people that we shouldn’t worry the fundamentals of the economy were strong. CNN this morning was trying to defend the comment saying that quite a bit has changed since McCain said the exact same thing some time ago.

BohicaTwentyTwo on March 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Just wait till all those bho voters find out how much more taxes they will be paying. Those voters, 95%, who bho told them NO NEW taxes. It won’t just be the R’s upset, but the D’s too.
L

My two favorite BHO Voter Groups to Watch are:

College Students and Senior Citizens.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

It’s always about Ogabe. He could care less if other people are trampled into the dirt, as long as his own pristine “coolness” survives, it’s all good.

Better get your zingers ready for Leno, Mr. President, give everyone a good show. It’s not like you should be hunkered down in your Oval Office hothouse, wrestling with the economy or something, no, it’s better that you get your ego stroked again.

Bishop on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I HAVE ONE WORD FOR JOHN EDWARDS:

DADA

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

How long before all those idiot rich folks that voted for Obama being to have buyer’s remorse?

ballz2wallz on March 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I think this is missing something. I am not only angry at the companies and the executives that allowed this to happen. I am REALLY ANGRY AT THE CONGRESS who sat by twiddling their thumbs saying there wasn’t a problem.

Even though I had problems with Bush, he tried to reform Freddie and Fanny. In 2007 alone, he asked the Congress 17 times to do something, anything! They kept saying there wasn’t a problem. Even now, they are telling banks to lower their credit standards. And they are still doing nothing with Medicare and Social Security.

When you have a government that no longer represents the people they tax, you will have a great deal of anger.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with the Tea Party protests and the President and members of Congress don’t have a clue.

ukgoods on March 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

once again they missed it.
Im not pissed at the banks and wallstreet
Im pissed at the morons in congress that allowed us to get to this point.

And im really pissed we are forced to save these companies with our Money.

just look no one is to big to fail , just look at BHO. 2 months in and he makes jimmy carter look like a great POTUS.

Mojack420 on March 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

You can keep the Change.

commenter on March 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM

The Obama administration is increasingly concerned about a populist backlash against banks and Wall Street

A backlash is coming, but it won’t be against banks and Wall Street…

Vashta.Nerada on March 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM

My two favorite BHO Voter Groups to Watch are:

College Students and Senior Citizens.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Uh uh. 27- to roughly 40-year-olds who 1) either want to or are buying homes and having kids 2) have grown up always being able to afford things they wanted 3) have never down anything except general economic growth.

BigD on March 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I heard over the weekend that someone in the Obama administration was trying to tell people that we shouldn’t worry the fundamentals of the economy were strong. CNN this morning was trying to defend the comment saying that quite a bit has changed since McCain said the exact same thing some time ago.

BohicaTwentyTwo on March 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

well the stock market is a lot lower so the profit and earnings ratio is better….

-B. O’bama

sven10077 on March 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Mojack420 on March 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Bingo

canditaylor68 on March 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

My two favorite BHO Voter Groups to Watch are:

College Students and Senior Citizens.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

College kids who don’t really earn paychecks but are totally psyched that the Pell Grants have been increased and the crappy job market has given them a great excuse to do grad school instead of growing up?

Senior citizens who are thrilled that Obama isn’t going to lower their social security payments so that they can ride that monthly check until the really big crisis hits (entitlements), by which time they will be long gone due to medical rationing?

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Angry at AIG? Nope.

Angry at politicians bailing out AIG? Yep.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Exactly! And THAT is what BarryO and the Merry Dems just don’t understand. They try to direct that anger, but it doesn’t work.

This fundamental misunderstanding of us here in flyover is root of all the liberal fallacies. The “bitter clinging” comment said it all, that we did that because the government isn’t doing enough for us. The fact is, the government does TOO MUCH “for us,” and THAT is what our problem is.

JamesLee on March 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

The whole AIG problem should have been in front of a bankruptcy judge. If it had, bonuses would have ceased as a distant dream as soon as a docket number had been issued by the clerk of the court.

Dr. Dog on March 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Bush Depression fixed!

Just filling in for takeadump, who is still waiting for her DNC talking points for this new thread. It took her over an hour to get them for the “O’bama is Incompetent” thread, and even then they weren’t terribly original.

Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I used to think Global Warming was the biggest power-grab scam in history. Not anymore. Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Obama, Reid should be in jail, and with the help of the MSM, the average Joe blames “big greedy business” and Republicans because we’re the party of “the rich”. WHAT A SCAM!

marklmail on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Angry at AIG? Nope.

Angry at politicians bailing out AIG? Yep.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

simple sweet and 100% correct

NY Conservative on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Senior citizens who are thrilled that Obama isn’t going to lower their social security payments so that they can ride that monthly check until the really big crisis hits (entitlements), by which time they will be long gone due to medical rationing?

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

But wait until the inevitable inflation from all of Obama’s insane borrowing for his socialist panacea hits, making those beloved entitlements totally worthless.

TexasJew on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Chris Dodd’s re-election results will tell us a lot about how enraged the public really is, and if voters are willing to start holding culprits responsible. Based on Murtha’s re-election, I’m not optimistic.

a capella on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

College kids who don’t really earn paychecks but are totally psyched that the Pell Grants have been increased and the crappy job market has given them a great excuse to do grad school instead of growing up?

Actually, you got the seniors right many of them who voted for BHO will help the country reap the sociatal benefit of healthcare rationing by going six feet under well before their time had they had good medical treatment.

By voting for BHO, the college students have succeeded in helping wipe out their parents college savings. They will have to secure loans and vie for scholarship and grant money from a huge population of students, including illegal immigrants, and those utilizing affirmative action. Silly kids.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

“These people may have a right to their bonuses. They don’t have a right to their jobs forever,” said Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat who is chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

We sure could say the same about your sorry perfomance/job Mr. Frank.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rep. Barney Frank charged Monday that a decision by financially strapped insurance giant AIG to pay millions in executive bonuses amounts to “rewarding incompetence.”

Leadership starts at the top—–and it ends there too.

Rovin on March 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Exactly!!

I know one soon to be college kid who is going to have work to go to school. No pain no gain…

catlady on March 16, 2009 at 12:02 PM

The backlash is hitting the MSM also; not hard enough in my view, but the MSM is as much to blame for this as the Democrat Party. We simply can not sustain a democracy when the media is 100% in partnership with a single party.

Keemo on March 16, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Can we just impeach Barney Frank on grounds of being a total moronic whiney a$$ retard?

catlady on March 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Somewhere, Mary Shelley is saying “See, I tried to warn you.”

AubieJon on March 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM

The wife of the poet and authoress–sorry, author–of Frankenstein?

I HAVE ONE WORD FOR JOHN EDWARDS:

DADA

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

The school of painting?
What’s going on here?

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

the good news for senior citizens is that under BHO their post op pain medicine will be FREE. The bad news is that they are deemed too old for a hip replacement.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Redirection.

Don’t you just love it when a plan comes together.

tarpon on March 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

The dems have been building this monster for the past two years, and now they want to feed it with our money. They built it – now I’m hoping it turns on them.

AubieJon on March 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Now we just need to get the GOP on board and get their head out of their (_!_) to hammer this point home. I would hate to waste a good crisis for a teachable momement.

lwssdd on March 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

No, Dada as in http://www.zimbio.com/Rielle+Hunter/articles/114/JOHN+EDWARDS+BOMBSHELL+911+PHONE+CALL+FLEW

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Let’s throw another TRILLION at the problem and see if it will go away.

GarandFan on March 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM

My two favorite BHO Voter Groups to Watch are:

College Students and Senior Citizens.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Senior citizens who are thrilled that Obama isn’t going to lower their social security payments so that they can ride that monthly check until the really big crisis hits (entitlements), by which time they will be long gone due to medical rationing?

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM

You mean the senior citizens that the communist O has marked for extinction with a health care system that rations a senior citizens health care so as to lessen the payouts of the Social Security system!!! If you are talking about these senior citizens I don’t think the big O cares cuz they will not be around very long if he gets his way.

No sarcasm intended!

calguyintexas on March 16, 2009 at 12:09 PM

By voting for BHO, the college students have succeeded in helping wipe out their parents college savings. They will have to secure loans and vie for scholarship and grant money from a huge population of students, including illegal immigrants, and those utilizing affirmative action. Silly kids.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

My concern is that this won’t kick in before 2012. After that, I am on board with what you are saying.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Obama, keep your fingers out of my wallet.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,612684,00.html

lol!

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Let’s focus on nailing some execs’ contractually-guaranteed bonuses (which amount to less than 0.1% of the amount of bailout money AIG received, btw), but not worry at all that Obama is considering everyone’s taxing health care benefits.

If AIG can renegotiate these contracts moving forward, fine, but it’s not right to penalize these folks retroactively.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM

By voting for BHO, the college students have succeeded in helping wipe out their parents college savings. They will have to secure loans and vie for scholarship and grant money from a huge population of students, including illegal immigrants, and those utilizing affirmative action. Silly kids.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM

They also helped wipe out the colleges’ endowments, which are used to provide money for scholarships (among many other things), and put a stranglehold on fundraising by electing a guy who seems hell bent on eating the rich.

Smart move, kids.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM

If AIG can renegotiate these contracts moving forward, fine, but it’s not right to penalize these folks retroactively.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM

The CEO of AIG, as well as his secretary, can have gold desks and I do not care, so long as I am not paying for it and I am not a shareholder.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 12:16 PM

College Students

I was a college student dumb enough to vote for Walter Mondale when I was 18.

Now look at me. I thoroughly despise anything and everything have slightly to do with the absolutely worthless, vile, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party.

So there is hope . . .

NoDonkey on March 16, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Now he’s worried that his partnership with his former targets will damage him politically. Obama may be belatedly discovering some ancient wisdom: a rabble, once roused, is very difficult to un-rouse. Provoking anger and class warfare is a dangerous game, one that usually burns the person who set the torch as much as anyone else.

Ed, you are on fire today!

RepubChica on March 16, 2009 at 12:18 PM

We all know there are corrupt businessmen, and that a lot of them work in banks and on Wall Street. We know that they reward themselves for what they construe as a job well done in the form of obscene bonuses and perks. The fact that they failed at business and took bailout money and continue to reward themselves is despicable and outrageous. But not shocking. What is shocking is how this administration can pass the biggest spending bill in our history, giving billions of dollars…billions of BORROWED dollars I might add, to their cronies, lobbyists and special interest groups. And then, as if they were a bunch of righteous do-gooders, they stand there with their jaws dropped to the floor when a bunch of businessmen dare give themselves a bonus. We have a brand new breed of hypocrites, ladies and gentlemen, and it’s called the Obama administration.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:18 PM

so long as I am not paying for it and I am not a shareholder.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 12:16 PM

It seems to me that AIG received the bailout late last year. Assuming that these contracts ran from either a fiscal year start of July 2008, or perhaps even as far back as January 2008, then the execs are owed at least some of their bonus money. I suppose an argument could be made to pro-rate it to when the bailout money hit, but as far as I know, there were no strings of this sort attached to the bailout.

If the execs sue successfully, the company will be out the court costs and lawyers’ fees, in addition to the bonus money. How is that fiscally responsible?

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:19 PM

We all know there are corrupt businessmen, and that a lot of them work in banks as building contractors and on Wall Street as car salesmen.

Get some perspective, people! I’ve been ripped off more times by tradesmen and car salesmen than I have by bankers.

This class warfare crap makes me sick.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Michelle has more on how that populist anger has begun to focus on Obama.

Thanks, Ed, for bringing up Michelle’s efforts in publicizing the tea party revolt. Up to now, HA has been pretty quiet on the subject and on the few items posted, sort of minimizing the effort. Like the change. Keep it up.

Christian Conservative on March 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rep. Barney Frank charged Monday that a decision by financially strapped insurance giant AIG to pay millions in executive bonuses amounts to “rewarding incompetence.”

See what I mean? A whole new breed of hypocrisy, although since Frank’s been a hypocrite long before Obama was even a candidate, it must be contagious. They’re everywhere…it’s like a bad Steven King movie. On a breezy day you can smell the stench of hypocrisy from DC all the way down to the Shenandoah Valley. I just hope it doesn’t get into the water supply.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Exactly! We had to sue our “conservative, Republican, pro Military” contractor. He was a cheat and a liar.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I think it is fine that AIG is giving out the bonuses. I just wish it wasn’t with my money.

As long as I am not a shareholder in a company, I do not care if they reward failure or super duper reward a job well done. Business practices will self-correct at some point. Bailouts stunt that from happening.

Tax payer money shouldn’t be going to any of these companies.

But I am not going to get riled up about AIG bonues when the proper anger should be directed at the people giving bailouts.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM

This class warfare crap makes me sick.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I said a lot of them. I did not say ALL of them. I’ve been ripped off by doctors and lawyers and landlords and insurance companies and cable tv providers. Never been ripped off by a banker or stockbroker.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM

the good news for senior citizens is that under BHO their post op pain medicine will be FREE. The bad news is that they are deemed too old for a hip replacement.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Yeah, that’s a scary one. My dad (in his 70s) has both a federal pension (he worked in the DC court system for many years) and a state pension, plus terrific health insurance, but he is scared because he may need a heart procedure and apparently even if he can afford it, it may not be available to him under the Obamacare system.

Lovely.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:31 PM

It looks like the blame Pelosi tact is loosing steam who can they pretend is the problem next? How many days in 56? Is this a new record?

Dr Evil on March 16, 2009 at 12:33 PM

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Sorry if my comment seemed too directed at you.

I’m just really pissed off that we are getting worked up over what amounts to less than 0.1% of the AIG bailout money when Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Frank are tearing apart our economy… and our society.

I am not from a wealthy family — my dad was a social worker most of his life and mom stayed at home until I left school — and neither is my husband, but I do work with wealthy people in fundraising (ironically, for colleges and universities). Most of them are not Madoff.

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Just wait until people finally realize that class warfare is all Obama has in his arsenal.

You mean his being black does not count for anything? Gee wiz. 90 days ago that was all the rage.

MikeA on March 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM

The dems have been building this monster for the past two years, and now they want to feed it with our money. They built it – now I’m hoping it turns on them.

AubieJon on March 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM

That’s what I figured. (BTW, I’m an old member of her husband’s college. Or is it “spouse” now?)

No, Dada as in http://www.zimbio.com/Rielle+Hunter/articles/114/JOHN+EDWARDS+BOMBSHELL+911+PHONE+CALL+FLEW

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Ah, mai oui!

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I know this off topic, but what a bunch of arses.
http://www.breitbart.com/image.php?id=iafpCNG.faea6ca815221f889eb08324c42f2bef.1d1p0&show_article=1&article_id=CNG.faea6ca815221f889eb08324c42f2bef.1d1

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Why? You want them to kill seals? What for?

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:37 PM

There are two America’s:

Government and their cronies

all the rest of us who work to feed both of them.

Hand me a pitchfork, some tar and some feathers…..

iconoclast on March 16, 2009 at 12:40 PM

You know folks, most you haven’t got a clue about social security. In the 55 years I have worked, at a 5% interest rate and with my employer’s and at times my own, matching payments, I have contributed almost $600,000 to the government retirement safety net and medical programs. Actuarialy, if the old country girl doesn’t shoot me first, I could live another 20 years. If I saved the money in CDs instead of sending it to the redistributionists, I could be bringing home more than 150% – 200% of what the government is distributing to me, and when I croak, the Old Girl and kids would have $600K. My dad never got a penny, my sister got one year, my mother got 2 years.

I, by the way, I did without some things I would have liked to have and saved other funds that exceed what ss sends to me. I know I could be a good guy and give my ss to you, but f… you. I paid it, I earned it. If you want to go after somebody, go after the lawyers who are getting the grifters and undeserving the disability payments. Go after those politicians who give our contributions to others for votes. I can see how other senior citizens could be upset if their ss was eliminated or reduced.

Old Country Boy on March 16, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Y-not on March 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM

No problem. I agree, I’m more angry at what our government is doing to us than whether or not some guy who was promised a bonus actually gets it. Who are we to say whether he earned it or not? I’d rather he/she gets a bonus then have our tax money go to the study of pig odors.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Why? You want them to kill seals? What for?

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:37 PM

No, I really don’t want them to kill seals. I just was looking at all those nasty asses.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM

It seems that the Liberals have created Sh#t winds,
and when those winds pick up steam,it will be a full
blown Category 5 Sh#t Hurricane,

and the Democrats will be covered in their own
do do,

and it won’t be pretty,and the smell,stench,and stink,
will be by their own hands,as well as their political
Party!(Snark!).

canopfor on March 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

No, I really don’t want them to kill seals. I just was looking at all those nasty asses.

bloggless on March 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Yes, not exactly the most…savory way to protest. Attention-getting, to be sure, but ugh, what kind of attention!

Tzetzes on March 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Small business versus unions. Obama is on the wrong side.

Angry Dumbo on March 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM

I agree also. I am angry at our government for passing all this crud,but what really gets me angry is that AIG will get away with it– NOT BECAUSE THEY TOOK THE MONEY— BUT BECAUSE THEY(AIG) ARE BAILING OUT FOREIGN BANKS USING AMERICAN TAXPAYER FUNDS.

canditaylor68 on March 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM


Angry at AIG? Nope.

Angry at politicians bailing out AIG? Yep.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Nailed it.

bluelightbrigade on March 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I am angry at AIG and the politicians. More so the politicians (Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, etc.) who allowed this whole thing to get out of control. I know AIG is a business, but it has now received a bailout and should have a little bit of shame about paying out big bonuses after getting tax payers money.

jcheney on March 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Where are the cong/senate hearings? Since there have been no hearings with Dodd, Frank, Raines et al being grilled for lunch, it’s ipso facto proof that they are guilty as sin.

Akzed on March 16, 2009 at 12:49 PM

should have a little bit of shame about paying out big bonuses after getting tax payers money.

jcheney on March 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

What good does their “shame” do for me? Or for any other tax payer?

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I believe it was Senator DeMint, in a conversation with Chris Wallace this weekend, who said, “If a company is ‘too big’ to fail, then it probably needs to fail!”

ladyingray on March 16, 2009 at 12:52 PM

What? You mean like this? – http://www.libertycalls.org

This kind of backlash? Where people who have never stood up and said “enough!” are finally ready to do something to stop the slide to socialism? Yeah, I’m down with that.

OwlorNothing on March 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM

I work for a state agency. We were told we’d get a 2% raise last July. Because the state had some billion dollar shortfall we didn’t get that raise, and were told not to count on one for ’09 either. Well, my state (VA) got a big chunk of the porkulus bill, and guess who still isn’t getting a raise? Wonder where all that money is going? Will we ever know? I’d bet my job the answer is no. There’s no such thing as accountability in government.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM

AIG is paying out bonuses and giving money to foreign banks, as a continuation of their business.

Politicians bailed out AIG so that AIG could continue doing business.

I really don’t know why I should be equally upset with both AIG and the politicians. Or more upset with AIG than the politicians.

myrenovations on March 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM

all the righteouss indignation from the left about ‘private’ business spending, but never a word about outrageous GOVERNMENT spending…

‘hey, look over there… don’t notice the rabbit up my sleeve’

gatorboy on March 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Good news from Politico

DODD IN TROUBLE — Hartford Courant’s Chris Keating: “Former U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons [R], buoyed by a poll showing that he is in a dead heat in a possible matchup against Sen. Christopher Dodd, announced Sunday that he would challenge the longtime Democratic senator in 2010.”

msmveritas on March 16, 2009 at 1:04 PM

To the bloke that said he had been cheated by doctors, lawyers, landlords, and insurance companies, but not wall street brokers or bankers: try this on for size – newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=10007463. It seems that the oil price spike WAS caused by wall street speculators, and not by the oil companies or lack of drilling. I am surprised the MSM has not caught on to this. Now we want to put the people who tried to keep the price of oil down in jail, while the MSM and politicians want to reward the wall street speculators who, for personal gain, deliberately and in a conspiritorial manner, drove it up to almost $200/ bbl. (If the link doesn’t work, trying typing it in).

Old Country Boy on March 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

gatorboy on March 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Astonishing, isn’t it. THAT’s what people are fed up with, GOVERNMENT SPENDING, not some working stiff who gets something extra in his paycheck for his efforts.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Old Country Boy on March 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I’m not a bloke, I’m a bombshell. Ok, so I’m not that either.

But I have no doubt that what you say is true and I’ll bet congress had their hands in that as well.

scalleywag on March 16, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Old Country Boy on March 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

If they pointed that out to the ignorant consumers they would lose the “Big Oil” boogeyman.

thomasaur on March 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Don’t worry, Obama has a boogey man waiting in the wings:
from pg. 5 of his budget

While middle-class families have been playing
by the rules, living up to their responsibilities as
neighbors and citizens, those at the commanding
heights of our economy have not.
Enter the evil high earner.

ctmom on March 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM

This quote from page 5 of the budget should be quote of the day. Anyone see Fox News Sunday/Chris Wallace yesterday? He was pounding Austan Goolsbee about it and Bob Corker did a nice job of making his points about how bad this budget is.

Barney Frank wanted to defend himself against Corker and Chris Wallace asked him if he really wanted to have a food fight.

It was great, anyone have a video?

Knucklehead on March 16, 2009 at 1:20 PM

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