American Legion commander “angered” after meeting Obama
posted at 7:00 pm on March 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Apparently, the Obama administration hasn’t backed away from its plans to start offloading costs for wounded veterans to third-party insurance, which will make acquiring such insurance nearly impossible. The commander of the American Legion emerged from a meeting with President Obama “angered” at Obama’s insistence on generating revenue from those who sacrificed for American security:
The leader of the nation’s largest veterans organization says he is “deeply disappointed and concerned” after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
“It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan,” said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. “He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it.”
The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, “This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ‘ to care for him who shall have borne the battle’ given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm’s way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America’s veterans!”
Commander Rehbein was among a group of senior officials from veterans service organizations joining the President, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki and Steven Kosiak, the overseer of defense spending at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). The group’s early afternoon conversation at The White House was precipitated by a letter of protest presented to the President earlier this month. The letter, co-signed by Commander Rehbein and the heads of ten colleague organizations, read, in part, ” There is simply no logical explanation for billing a veteran’s personal insurance for care that the VA has a responsibility to provide. While we understand the fiscal difficulties this country faces right now, placing the burden of those fiscal problems on the men and women who have already sacrificed a great deal for this country is unconscionable.”
The Obama administration explains that it wants private insurers who sell coverage to vets to pay their fair share, but there are two things wrong with that argument. First, the United States has a moral obligation to provide treatment for those wounded in the service of their country. That’s a commitment we make to the people who enlist in military, and should not get outsourced.
Second, vets with service-related injuries and illnesses can only get third-party insurance because insurers know the US will cover all service-related medical treatment through the VA. If the government reneges on that commitment, it will put insurers on the hook for veterans already enrolled — but it will make it a lot harder for the next set of veterans to get insured. It will also raise costs to the rest of the insured by those companies, when the burden should fall on all Americans equally.
If the country needs more revenue streams, it should find some other way to find them than the backs of our wounded veterans. They’ve sacrificed enough. Shame on the Obama administration for attempting to weasel out of our commitment.
Update: This Ain’t Hell wonders when General Eric Shinseki will resign in protest.










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Huh, didn’t think they would be stupid enough to go through with it. Seems this action is a good barometer of their lack of respect for our wounded soldiers as it is of their general stupidity.
aikidoka on March 16, 2009 at 7:39 PM
RENEGING ON THE VETS? IT’S POSITIVELY SATANIC…
reliapundit on March 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
When the revolution starts we’ll know which side the military will be on, ours since we are defending the Constitution and these United States not its government.
goat on March 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Please…I’m waiting for the trolls to hit this site and this thread, and just try to explain away this lunacy.
Come on you sniveling little b!tches..come on I say.
I’ll be waiting over here at my kitchen table for you all to show up.
Come on SheetRock, let’s dance.
57 days, and Bambi has turned our country up side down.
NOT OVER!
1GooDDaDDy on March 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Someone should find out who the brain dead bureaucrat is who thought up this stupid policy and have them reassigned to Afghanistan as a decoy target for drawing enemy sniper fire.
Dreadnought223 on March 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Obama hates our military. He is a disgrace and a huge jerk and ass.
jencab on March 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Holy shit – Levin is on a rant on this. Asking why ACORN should get billions. Says Obama wants to crush the private healthcare system.
Stock crash in 3.2.1
BrideOfRove on March 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Well since Obama-fascist wonderboy never served in the military, he doesn’t have a clue on this issue.
Youi would think as Commander-inChief he would want to take care of his armed forces.
I guess if he gest injured walking through a door that he can’t open, he better file his ER claim on his own persoanl insurance and not on the taxcpayer.
This guy is the Manchurian candidate fo sho.
ObamatheMessiah on March 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Ok…I’ve hear everyone be mad…but why won’t his plan work
tomas on March 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
anniekc on March 16, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Yeah, after all these self imposed fallacies its hard to follow.
Its as if he came into the office with little experience…
…oh wait…
FontanaConservative on March 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Levin is talking about this right now.
deidre on March 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
I’m with funky chicken and Count to 10 – this is a piece of his grand scheme to force single-payer/socialized medicine down the throats of the American people. It’s right out of Alinsky’s playbook:
Over-stress the system that’s currently in place until it breaks, wait for the wails of “Fix it, Oh One!” and…. voila! National Health. And our fellow citizens are such moronic sheep they’ll be grateful.
It reminds me of a line from Gladiator, with a slight substitution: He will give them ruin. And they will love him for it.
Lurking Vet on March 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM
President Head. Richard Head.
jdflorida on March 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Shinseki, maybe?
Wethal on March 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Unintended consequences, Barry. Good luck on your next poll. I hope the military and bloggers keep this thing well publicized. Barry’s going to have some trouble foisting this program off on subordinates.
a capella on March 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM
I agree. It already has, in many respects.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 7:44 PM
This is the same effeminate duche that got atomic wedgies on the playground and ran to the school nurse for free care for his pee pee. They do that in Indonesia don’t they?
hip shot on March 16, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Blackfive has it, so the other milblogs will pick it up.
Wethal on March 16, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Don’t hold yer breath…
This isn’t a Rush Limbaugh, Global Warming, or “Inherited Deficit” thread…
BigWyo on March 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Why should this surprise anyone with a double digit IQ? The democrats have always hated our military and have actively worked for their defeat on many fronts. Just another step towards destroying the hopes and values that our country was founded on.
volsense on March 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Levin:
Six weeks or so ago – the S_Chip program expanded coverage – why take people off private health care who can aford to pay it and then bring injured soldiers home and force them ON private health care.
Sick minds in DC want the Vets to be complaining about private health care so that the Obama’s and ilk can have a reason to scrap private health care and nationalize it.
BrideOfRove on March 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Obama made a choice between our American soldiers and his dirtbag ACORN crooks and the soldiers lost. Disgusting!
rplat on March 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Quick…look behind you…It’s me!
NOT OVER.
1GooDDaDDy on March 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM
This is a red letter headline on Drudge now. This won’t go away.
Mark1971 on March 16, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Obeyme is a slimy two faced rat for this. When I was discharged I was entitled to disability for being almost completely deaf (F-4 Phantoms and aircraft carrier flight decks,what?) and I turned it down because I felt then as I do now, there were/are a helluva lot of vets who were way worse off than me and could use the bennies. I took lip reading classes, payed for out of my own pocket, and learned to get by with what I had. For this POS commie in chief to pull something like this is beyond reproach and I hope with all my heart that if he does this to our warriors he rots in he]].
GlocknRoll on March 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Obama had no problem rubbing George Bush’s face in the bureaucratic problems patients had getting treatment at US Army hospitals. Things are DIFFERENT now.
Bastard!
GarandFan on March 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM
57 days in and my blood is already boiling.
It is going to be a LONG 4 years.
I would love a blue pill right about now. It hurts to care so freaking much knowing what more is coming down the road. If OBamination is willing to screw the vets – the one group that actually deserves to ask for government assistance – then what horror faces the rest of us?
SimplyKimberly on March 16, 2009 at 7:48 PM
But but but, the liberal trolls SAID that we were blowing this all out of proportion! That this was a lie! That it was all Bush, that the Big O was NEVER going to take away the health benefits of Veterans, that it was all propaganda!
DTMHack, getalife, help me here! Say it ain’t so!
GunRunner on March 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Somebody call Glenn Beck.. I just found more people getting their torches and pitchforks ready.
Dire Straits on March 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Would you care to elaborate? What’s “NOT OVER?” You making empty threats- is that what isn’t over? Because that’s fine, I don’t care.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM
More then you know,..along with the “stand-down” orders they have while in Afghanistan, they pretty much have nothing. I have a friend who sent word, they really have NOTHING!! So if anyone would love to send a care package, now is the time. Send anything.
christene on March 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Makes perfect sense when you consider the fact that illegal aliens and octomom welfare queens are Obama voters, and veterans (wounded or not) are not.
AZCoyote on March 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Donate to organizations like MOAA and the American Legion. They have the connections with congressmen and women and will get this proposal defeated.
They actually were instrumental in getting some really crappy Bush admin proposals re: military health care defeated, so they will go after Obama big time on this.
funky chicken on March 16, 2009 at 7:50 PM
President Embarrassment you sir, are a disgusting POS to even entertain something as atrocious as this. How dare you slap all our brave men and woman who serve. This is indeed an insult to all veterans. You should be ashamed….And yes, interesting the libtard trolls are silent…
EagleClaw on March 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM
I expected some kind of anti military move, but not this. What do you expect from a coward that didn’t even register for the Selective Service?
Hog Wild on March 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM
http://www.moaa.org/
Go, and donate today. You won’t be sorry.
funky chicken on March 16, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Maybe you should read the whole post before asking stupid questions; Ed covered it after the excerpted text.
landshark on March 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM
$540 million is chump change to these egotistical morons – he doesn’t intend to generate funds, he is simply trying to demoralize ‘the enemy’. Pure and simple – he hates our American way of life and is going to do his best to undermine it!
libertylady on March 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Meanwhile. enemy combatants get the best of care free. Why not bill them? Something stinks here.
flyoverland on March 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM
The reason this will not work is most policies have what is known as a war clause. Excludes any damage or injury as a result of war of civil insurrection or similar language. If the health policy does not have that language it will soon and this is not something that is governed at the Federal level but by individual states because of the McCarren Furgeson act.
UncleZeb on March 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I don’t have enough middle fingers to show Barry how I feel about this policy.
Trillions for make work projects, Billions for Bank Bailouts, but nothing but more sacrifice for the wounded military personnel.
Has anyone mentioned that most Medical Insurance programs have a lifetime cap?
thmsmgnm on March 16, 2009 at 7:55 PM
This is the Finger for them not standing when he came into the commissary. As far as he is concerned, they are costumed clowns.
GunRunner on March 16, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Anyone gotta recall Obama potition yet?
upinak on March 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM
He doesn’t deserve to be known as “P.O.T.U.S.” “P.O.S.” is far more appropriate.
Star20 on March 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Maybe you 2 should familiarize yourselves with the meaning of the word ‘Derangement’…
BigWyo on March 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Read your Constitution.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
No, I won’t. I’ve been posting here for 3 years now. Most of the folks here can figure out my change in sign offs.
Threats…no, no, no…a promise is more like it.
“All enemies, foreign and domestic…”
Here, let me help you.
The fight is…NOT OVER.
Better now?
1GooDDaDDy on March 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
President Obama can stick this idiocy where the sun don’t shine. I throughly detest this man and what he stands for.
Pitchfork at the ready. See you April 15.
Gracelynn on March 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Acorn got how much? AIG got how much? Murtha’s pals got how much?
I am so pissed off, I can’t even express it.
dogsoldier on March 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Looks like Obama is trying to bump Jimmy Carter out of the top slot for worst president in the last 50 years.
Maxx on March 16, 2009 at 8:00 PM
I see. So you’ll be making empty promises, not empty threats. I didn’t capture the nuance there.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Yeah I can read it till my face turns blue and black from holding my breath on a BC that isn’t going to show and everyone in here telling me that I am a B.O. Birther… yet the man is still sitting as the POTUS and no one has got a Petition on recalling him as President?
Give me a break!
upinak on March 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM
That’s good, because it CAN’T go away. We can’t let the MSM ignore this inexcusable shirking of responsibility by our incompetent-ass-in-chief. Wounded veterans are NOT a “revenue stream”. You wanna save some money on health care, O-a$$hole? Give up your government health insurance – go buy your own policy – leave the military out of it.
uncivilized on March 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM
FTFY
upinak on March 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM
No, seriously, read the Constitution. You don’t know what the process is for removing the President.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Someone should find out who the brain dead bureaucrat is who thought up this stupid policy and have them reassigned to Afghanistan as a decoy target for drawing enemy sniper fire.
Dreadnought223 on March 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM
This was all Obama and his top aids.
unseen on March 16, 2009 at 8:03 PM
I think he would have to be impeached, dont know of any way to launch a recall drive.
UncleZeb on March 16, 2009 at 8:03 PM
If Barry doesn’t scrap this plan immediately, I hope thousand of vets and military families descend on the Capital this coming Memorial Day and throw combat boots.
Call it Operation Boot Obama.
Christien on March 16, 2009 at 8:03 PM
next to Obama Bush was Jefferson
unseen on March 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
This is not only morally indefensible, it’s politically stupid. The White House has been trying to divide the GOP and get them to repudiate Rush.
This is the issue that everyone in the GOP can united behind and change the topic from Obama’s “choking up” about AIG. And it will put the Dems on the defensive.
Wethal on March 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
When the miltary coup starts we won’t have to wonder what’s going on.
unseen on March 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
The child-president has to go.
If there is one group in the country who deserves the best we can provide for them, it is our wounded military.
But, no. Osama Obama waves money at ACORN, wants to build up the
Obama JugendCivilian Security Corps and pamper fat-ass do-nothing pols with plenty of the pork he once claimed to be against.Two middle fingers up! to this incompetent hack.
MrScribbler on March 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I love it! I’ll bring my teabags, my combat boots & my pitchfork!
libertylady on March 16, 2009 at 8:05 PM
s/b “thousands“
Christien on March 16, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Hey, McCain, still think running an “honorable” campaign was the way to go? This guy got elected and is ruining this country because you didn’t want to get tough with him. Was it because David Letterman wouldn’t forgive you or your pals in the mainstream press?
Now see what he’s doing to your fellow vets.
And the Conservative Lites want us to make nice with the Dems, who supposedly aren’t such extremists. Frum, Brooks, Baby McCain, are you paying attention yet?
EMD on March 16, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Close, he’d be impeached in the House, which is the same thing as an indictment. Then he’d go to the Senate to be tried, and he’d have to be convicted in the Senate in order to be removed.
Of course this is probably not an impeachable offense, even though as far as I can tell this plan is pretty execrable. And it’s moot, because Democratic majorities aren’t going to vote to impeach a popular President two months after he’s been elected – oh, and he’s the first minority Executive in the history of Western Civilization. So there’s that.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM
This stooge obama has no soul (or courage or heart or loyalty or patriotism). I loathe him with every fiber in my being. When you f**k with our soliders, you F**K WITH US ALL and WE WON’T STAND FOR IT DAMMIT. Let’s take this asshole down.
Ris4victory on March 16, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Maybe we should start a plan to march on july 4th to coincide with rolling thunder
UncleZeb on March 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM
I know quite a few Veterans Groups that will go in on it with you!
upinak on March 16, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Does it look like this?
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 8:09 PM
they’re really talented in this administration at dreaming up new ways to piss people off.
gsherin on March 16, 2009 at 8:09 PM
The One is just trying to findsomething he can use the Armed Forces for.
And he wonders why they don’t trust him.
bluelightbrigade on March 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM
So he plans to slash defense and symbolically drain the remaining blood from disabled vets’ wounds to pay for his massive deficit to fund a socialist behemoth state?
I can hear Obama’s elequent teleprompter speech now: “Generations of servicemen have volunteered to pay the ultimate sacrifice for us all, and for that we have traditionally been grateful. But it’s time to sacrifice for ACORN and socialism now. BOHICA biatches!”
econavenger on March 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM
What is your problem, Proud Rino? I get that you are trying to say something, but I can’t work out what it is.
Alana on March 16, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Maybe he is one with TBI or PTSD and had to pay for it, but that is OK since he is independently wealthy!
upinak on March 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Soooo.. let me get this straight…
the last “stimulus” bill added people to the rolls of who gets government assistance for Medical care…
But now Obama wants to throw Vets off the already existing government system, and force them onto Insurance, which they will not be able to get as these are Pre Existing conditions?
Proof positive, he DOES HATE VETS.
Romeo13 on March 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
He should take into account that pissing off the guys in control of the nations weapons is probably not a good idea.
thomasaur on March 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
This is the MOST OUTRAGEOUS idiocy yet.
notagool on March 16, 2009 at 8:13 PM
If the kids in the capitol want to start HUGE riots they just need to mess with Vet’s benefits – especially wounded Vet’s benefits!
.
I’m not a Vet but I’ll start a WAR right here on our own soil over this issue!!
.
Hal-9000 on March 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM
I am not a vet, but nothing—NOTHING—makes my blood boil more than this story.
Nothing.
If anyone knows what we can do further….please post it.
Let’s…..EFFIN’…..roll.
Our country and its people are being RAPED by a usurper.
ex-Democrat on March 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Dude, we have known that forever. It is just taking the rest of the Nation to wake up.
upinak on March 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM
There there’s this:
http://americansheepdogs.com/?p=1999
Urban Infidel on March 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Yeah, that’s deranged alright.
But I guess I’ll hold off calling it ‘Obama Derangement Syndrome’ until I start hearing that kind of thing from 90% of this country’s media and half of congress every other day.
BigWyo on March 16, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Does anyone here remember how shamnesty got killed?
This abomination can be halted in the same manner.It will take the same concerted effort.
irongrampa on March 16, 2009 at 8:18 PM
You really have know idea what you’re dealing with in your “new world order” do you.
Millions and millions of pissed off vets being sh!t on?
And one of you.
Not Over.
1GooDDaDDy on March 16, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Kinda reminds me of the Chinese policy to charge the family for the bullet used in a loved one’s execution……..
Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2009 at 7:33 PM
The big O is a Communist and he is out to prove it with his version of genocide:
1) The unborn – check
2) Senior citizens via rationing of healthcare – check
3) wounded vets – check
I wonder who makes the list tomorrow
calguyintexas on March 16, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Fair enough. I think the last three presidents (Obama, Bush Jr. and Clinton) have inspired an irrational level of hatred in the opposition party, but I see your point.
Proud Rino on March 16, 2009 at 8:20 PM
btw, Mark Levin just covered this on his radio show. Most of you probably realize that the REAL reason Ogabe is doing this is to tank the private healthcare system.
“hey, let’s get the vets to be pissed at private healthcare and then we can swoop in and nationalize the whole damn thing”…’cause the fascists know: once they get hold of healthcare, that’s it people.
What do you think would have been leaked about Joe-the-plumber THEN?
You want Ogabe knowing your mental health record? your abortion record? your transexual operations record? your Hep C record? AIDS? what else you freaks going to give to the Dems?
But using the vets and their war injuries in your sick, sick play for power leftards makes me want to puke.
Again: post what we can DO—-not just b*tch—-Operation Jericho?
ex-Democrat on March 16, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Too angry to type,lets just say this information will be passed on to every soldier I know.
canditaylor68 on March 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM
irongrampa on March 16, 2009 at 8:18 PM
While that is true, it won’t even be necessary. There isn’t much chance of this passing Congress – this is a political landmine if there ever was one. This bill would go NOWHERE. Obama’s administration is either:
a) too dumb to realize this or
b) fully aware and saying it anyway to demoralize our troops.
In neither case is this a good thing for our country.
innominatus on March 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Why is Shinseki involved in this? I would think this would be something that he would forcibly argue against before resigning.
Gohawgs on March 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Sorry, but there was nothing deranged about that post against The Precedent that ShamefulRino pasted. It’s clear that the idiot messiah hates America, and his moves against the military are just the latest leg of his path to take revenge on America and Western civilization. What The Precedent is doing is treasonous and there is nothing deranged in saying that.
progressoverpeace on March 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM
I wonder if Obama ever read about the “Bonus Army” of World War I vets that marched on D.C. to get the benefits that were promised them.
Wethal on March 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Why is Shinseki involved in this? I would think this would be something that he would forcibly argue against before resigning.Gohawgs on March 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Maybe be cause he’s just a poseur who’s taking this job until he can run for one of the Hawaii senate seats occupied by guys older than God?
Wethal on March 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Barack Obama is the scum of the earth.
Boxy_Brown on March 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM
This country isn’t going to hell . . . it has already gone to hell. In the next war let him send his ACORN crooks, his parasitic constituents and his leftist anti-war supporters. Our poor Republic has descended in the abyss.
rplat on March 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Sorry, didn’t mean to strike.
Wethal on March 16, 2009 at 8:25 PM
If something happens to Obama, and it happens at the hand of an American, I’m going to have a great deal of difficulty being angry at that American, or at feeling pity for Obama.
MadisonConservative on March 16, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Shinseki is as far to the left ad Obama.
rplat on March 16, 2009 at 8:26 PM
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