Russia takes the Biden Challenge

posted at 10:02 am on March 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Joe Biden warned us that Barack Obama would get tested by unfriendly nations in the first six months of his administration because of his inexperience.  That prediction now looks like sunny optimism.  Just days after China aggressively challenged the US Navy in international waters in the South China Sea, Russia now says they may start basing bombers in Venezuela — and Cuba:

A Russian Air Force chief said Saturday that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has offered an island as a temporary base for strategic Russian bombers, the Interfax news agency reported.

The chief of staff of Russia’s long range aviation, Maj. Gen. Anatoly Zhikharev, also said Cuba could be used to base the aircraft, Interfax reported. …

Zhikharev said Chavez had offered “a whole island with an airdrome, which we can use as a temporary base for strategic bombers,” the agency reported. “If there is a corresponding political decision, then the use of the island … by the Russian Air Force is possible.”

Interfax reported he said earlier that Cuba has air bases with four or five runways long enough for the huge bombers and could be used to host the long-range planes.

It took John Kennedy more than a year to precipitate a military standoff with the Soviet Union over Cuba in the 1962 missile crisis.  It’s taken the Obama Amateur Hour less than two months.

Recall that Barack Obama ran in part on a campaign to “restore diplomacy” in foreign relations.  Hillary Clinton made a big show of bringing a “reset button” to her first meeting with her Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, in which the button was labeled incorrectly and not spelled in Cyrillic.  This followed her bumbling show at the EU, making it clear to the Russians that our foreign service was in complete disarray, run by imcompetents.

Can you imagine Russia trying this with George Bush?  For that matter, can you imagine Bush losing Kyrgyzstan — and a vital military route — to Putin?  Russia is doing this now because Putin and Medvedev understand that they can get away with it.

The Kremlin later said that Zhikarev spoke “hypothetically”.  We’ll see.  I’d guess that it won’t take long for Moscow to start landing bombers 90 miles off our coast if the Obama administration continues the feckless performance we’ve seen thus far.

Update: Daniel Larison attempts to tell us that there’s nothing to see here and we should just move on:

There is a non-story making the rounds that the Russian military might base bombers in Venezuela and Cuba, provided that the Kremlin wanted to do this. In the same story that is being circulated, the Kremlin ruled out the idea as hypothetical speculation. Naturally, this had no effect whatever on wild accusations of Obama’s foreign policy failure.

When a Russian general tells the press that his country might start basing its bombers in Cuba, it’s not just some wild speculation on my part.  Bruce McQuain at QandO points this out to Larison:

However it seems Larison’s research into the story must have omitted this CNN version. The lede:

Russia expressed interest in using Cuban airfields during patrol missions of its strategic bombers, Russia’s Interfax news agency reported.

I put them in bold so they might catch Larison’s eye. You see, when most people see the words “Russia expressed interest” they interpret them to mean the state of Russia – you know, the country?- is interested enough in something to actually express that interest outloud to where a news agency heard it and reported it. And the words “Cuban airfields” usually mean, well, you know, airfields in Cuba – the object of the Russian interest. The thing airplanes fly off of. The fact that a Russian news agency reported the story about Russia’s interest and Cuba’s airfields, while also mentioning strategic bombers, kind of ties it all together and gives the statement some credibility over and above Larison’s hand-wave of dismissal. It certainly makes it more than a “non-story”.

Well, yes.

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“Walk knock-kneed and carry a clown nose reset button.”

Isn’t that how it goes?

ElectricPhase on March 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Hey, now that they’re done thinking up slogans for their anti-Rush billboard, the Obama administration can start thinking up its own diplomatic theme song. Here’s one in Russian that would be perfect, sung to the tune of “Frere Jacques”:

Ya ne znayu, ya ne znayu
Nichevo, nichevo.
Ya ne ponimayu, ya ne ponimayu.
Vsyo ravno, vsyo ravno.

(Translation:
I don’t know, I don’t know
Anything, anything.
I don’t understand, I don’t understand.
It doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter.)

I’m so glad I took up the One’s campaign advice and learned a foreign language!

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:10 AM

William Amos on March 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Sorry, WA, I’m slow today.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM

The russian military is very weak overall — they have modernized only in a small number of areas. This is a bluff to make Bambi look weak when he doesn’t respond. The propaganda only works because he and Hillary are already a laughing-stock.

If he does respond, then the Kremlin will do so also. A war of words is much cheaper for Putin than for Zero.

gh on March 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM
+10

Amadeus on March 14, 2009 at 10:37 AM

+100

I also sleep soundly that for all the saber rattling that the weak russian army does, there are nuclear powered sub sleeping in the Baltic Sea, Aegean Sea and Bearing Sea loaded with 20+ thermal nuclear warhead. Even if Barry does not make the the order after an attack Robert Gates will make it for him as the sec def.

tjexcite on March 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Not even “token” resistance? /s

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

“Token” resistance from a “token” Precedent.

thomasaur on March 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:10 AM

“Vsyo ravno, vsyo ravno.”

Ww changed it just a bit, back in my younger days:

“Vsyo gavno, vsyo gavno.”

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

I doubt hinting they are racist will have much effect. So, what’s left to do???

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Russian bombers contribute to global warming.

That should do it.

Loxodonta on March 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM

LOL. That’s a definite improvement, thanks coldwarrior.

I leave it up to you to provide the translation.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I leave it up to you to provide the translation.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Aw, c’mon…you can do it. After all, it’s the new slogan for the O-Administration. :-)

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM

“Walk knock-kneed and carry a clown nose reset button.”

Isn’t that how it goes?

ElectricPhase on March 14, 2009 at 11:09 AM

The People’s Cube is on it:
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=3100

zmdavid on March 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I favor the idea of a “hope brigade,” an inclusive legion of peoples of all colors, nationalities and sexual orientations, wearing Obama t-shirts, and carrying bouquets of fragrant roses to Putin, Chavez and whatever geriatric is in charge in Cuba, pleading with them to join hands with us and engage in dialogue, dialogue and more dialogue. Hillary should lead the march, wearing a rainbow pantsuit.

whitetop on March 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Joe Biden is busy playing with his train.

http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/03/joe-biden-runaway-train.html

Dr Evil on March 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM

whitetop on March 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM

That’s when we nuke ‘em, right?

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM

ernesto, here’s an idea. Send Hillary packing and make John Bolton SoS. He wouldn’t really even have to say very much.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Why give state to a guy who loathes negotiation? Bolton deserves defense, i have a feeling he’d hang himself trying to get state to do anything he wanted.

either way, a carrier group and a missile shield guarantee seem to be in order. if putin wants to start deploying we’ll deploy…turn that missile shield into a gigantic NATO air force superbase instead…see if he enjoys that radar peeking into his airspace.

Invade Venezuela.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

joke i presume?

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Looks like that reset button really works!

Ill bet Bill is asking Hillary for one now.

Chuck Schick on March 14, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I leave it up to you to provide the translation.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Aw, c’mon…you can do it. After all, it’s the new slogan for the O-Administration. :-)

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Nothin’ worse than two guys not sharing the joke with linguistically challenged.

thomasaur on March 14, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I leave it up to you to provide the translation.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Aw, c’mon…you can do it. After all, it’s the new slogan for the O-Administration. :-)

coldwarrior on March 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM

OK, here goes. “Gavno” (n.) — 1. the stuff liberals have for brains 2. the true value of many folks’ 401(k)s in the Obama administration.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Invade Venezuela.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:06 AM

joke i presume?

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM

It makes as much sense as anything that is likely to come out of the White House.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM

The Three Stooges, Castro, Putin and Chavez understand the capabilities of our submarine fleet better than The One does.
This is not a threat.

FireBlogger on March 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM

It makes as much sense as anything that is likely to come out of the White House.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM

ok ill give you that. i mean i know im the resident devils advocate give obama the benefit of the doubt guy here…but on stuff like this ive got nothing, hes being a pushover and its going to backfire.

obama’s gonna make it real real easy for me to vote romney or jindal in 2012…just no palin, please…

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM

either way, a carrier group and a missile shield guarantee seem to be in order. if putin wants to start deploying we’ll deploy…turn that missile shield into a gigantic NATO air force superbase instead…see if he enjoys that radar peeking into his airspace.

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Sounds good. All it takes is the ability to make decisions which will be unpopular with a large portion of Obama’s base voting bloc.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 11:29 AM

A bet tough-guy obama’s response to this will be lifting the don’t ask don’t tell policy.

that’ll show ‘em!

TTheoLogan on March 14, 2009 at 11:31 AM

It took John Kennedy more than a year to precipitate a military standoff with the Soviet Union over Cuba in the 1962 missile crisis. It’s taken the Obama Amateur Hour less than two months.

Russia’s having severe economic problems and it is trying to divert the attention of its people from domestic issues. The reaction of HotAir’s resident cellular biologist Ed Morrisey?

Blame America first!

radiofreevillage on March 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Sounds good. All it takes is the ability to make decisions which will be unpopular with a large portion of Obama’s base voting bloc.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 11:29 AM

screw them. they make me hate myself for opposing some of the irrational hawkishness or other hardline conservative viewpoints here. although, my loathing for hard lefties on the foreign policy front will never exceed my loathing for the “one of us, real american” types.

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM

This is not a threat.

FireBlogger on March 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Perhaps not to the USA, but I fear that Eastern Europe is in for bad times – again.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM

just no palin, please…

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Agreed.

OldEnglish on March 14, 2009 at 11:35 AM

A bet tough-guy obama’s response to this will be lifting the don’t ask don’t tell policy.

that’ll show ‘em!

TTheoLogan on March 14, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Isn’t Obama’s top military advisor supposed to be hell on wheels when it comes to designing new uniforms? How about SF berets for everyone to show we really mean business?

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM

But wait with hopey and dopey in the office we are safe. Hopey is trying ally with these countries so they won’t hurt us. That’s why he’s pissing of Britan and Columbia right?

He’s pacifying these guys isn’t this enough for them. What more do they need?

Brat4life on March 14, 2009 at 11:38 AM

What’s with the Palin hatred? I really don’t get that. If you ask me, she should have been at the head of the ticket rather than McCain.

And I bet she could clean Milhouse’s clock in basketball, too.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:39 AM

screw them. they make me hate myself for opposing some of the irrational hawkishness or other hardline conservative viewpoints here. although, my loathing for hard lefties on the foreign policy front will never exceed my loathing for the “one of us, real american” types.

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Son, conflicted is no way to go through life. Stop going to those dammed grad school seminars on the intellectual process.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 11:41 AM

The Three Stooges, Castro, Putin and Chavez understand the capabilities of our submarine fleet better than The One does.

It doesn’t matter how good your fleet is if you don’t have the will to use it. Witness the relative non-use of the German Imperial Fleet during World War I.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Son, conflicted is no way to go through life. Stop going to those dammed grad school seminars on the intellectual process.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 11:41 AM

…but i work in a graduate school…ok not really i work in the TV station in the grad school but regardless ive always been on the technocratic side of things. plus im from NYC. ill never relate to the one of us real american types seeing as my friends and family and beloved city are the antithesis of all that.

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM

It doesn’t matter how good your fleet is if you don’t have the will to use it. Witness the relative non-use of the German Imperial Fleet during World War I.

Correction — I’m speaking of the surface fleet, not the U-boats.

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM

…but i work in a graduate school…ok not really i work in the TV station in the grad school but regardless ive always been on the technocratic side of things. plus im from NYC. ill never relate to the one of us real american types seeing as my friends and family and beloved city are the antithesis of all that.

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Well, that explains everything. I thought you were just off your meds or something.

wccawa on March 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Send Michelle to negotiate in her Klingon Warrior battle dress, then they will be afraid…..

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on March 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Couldn’t hurt to try…

greekinfidel on March 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM

The Bed Crapper in Chief and his band of merry medicorities strike again.

I don’t want the woefully incompetent Bed Crapper in Chief to fail.

Just like I don’t want a wet paper bag to fail, when it’s carrying my groceries to fail, but it will and it has.

NoDonkey on March 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Don’t forget Iran and their declaration as a nuclear and space power…

ballz2wallz on March 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Oh goody. Russia has been an afterthought for 20 years, but now that we have Chump in Chief and his band of amatuers running the show it’s time for Russia to shine.

Change I can’t believe is happneing. Nice going Hussien.

Hog Wild on March 14, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Don’t forget Iran and their declaration as a nuclear and space power…

But that’s the “politics of fear”, we know the only enemy that America faces are the threat that comes from Republican-Americans.

Everyone else is just a smiling, comradely, turbin headed, friend we haven’t me yet.

So let’s all get together and make sure the Democrats never have to face an opposition party and “the world will be as one”.

NoDonkey on March 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Reset button. Reset what, Hillary? Go reset your damn husband.

johnnyU on March 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM

bulgaroctonus on March 14, 2009 at 11:10 AM

(Translation:
I don’t know, I don’t know
Anything, anything.
I don’t understand, I don’t understand.
It doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter.)

Hey! Where is:

I have Won, I have Won

OneConservative on March 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM

If only Putin Medvedev had a talk show, then Obama would take him seriously.

I guess EIB is more of a threat than the USSR Russia.

reaganaut on March 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Actually this makes perfect sense. Liberals, generally being cowards and weak-minded people with no principles, will make a big show about attacking/protesting those who they know won’t fight back or give any resistance.

Protest the US military or government – easy. They won’t lock them up or shoot them.

Protest Israel, Catholics, Christians – gravy! They won’t behead anyone.

Fight the terror of man-made global warming – perfect! It doesn’t exist, so it can’t fight back. The data is all flawed, so they can pretend like they are actually accomplishing something.

Brave, brave liberals.

reaganaut on March 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM

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lasertex on March 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM

reaganaut on March 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM

You may be on to something. I wonder if a giant billboard and a slogan contest might make them back off.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Prediction:

The MSM is going to use this event primarily to point out Biden’s foresight (now properly citing his statement that they intentionally ignored/misquoted during the campaign) and to compare Obama to JFK ala Cuban Missile Crisis.

29Victor on March 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

lasertex on March 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM

so you’re saying…we’re screwed?

29Victor on March 14, 2009 at 12:25 PM

I’m having a tough time admitting that Biden(of all people)was right. I don’t think Russia will do it as we would then be justified in escalating in friendly Slavic countries. Let the cold war begin?

jeanie on March 14, 2009 at 12:26 PM

It took John Kennedy more than a year to precipitate a military standoff with the Soviet Union over Cuba in the 1962 missile crisis. It’s taken the Obama Amateur Hour less than two months.

Putin respects history; Obama ignores it.

PattyJ on March 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM

The Left will say it only makes us even because of the missile shield we’re proposing in Eastern Europe. Because you know a defensive system of questionable reliability and so limited in size as to be laughable against the Russian missile forces justifies the placing of offensive bombers withing short range of our coast. It strikes me as equivalent to buying a squirt gun to protect your house from fire so therefore the arsonist across the street is justified in buying a flamethrower and is standing in your front yard.

Yakko77 on March 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Somewhere Obama is pounding on a big red reset button and wondering why it’s not working.

29Victor on March 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Putin respects history; Obama ignores it.

PattyJ on March 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Putin does more than respect it, he likes the sound of it…rings loud and true and with obama he sees an opportunity to raise his own international credentials while reducing obama’s.The cherry on the ice cream? If he actually does this(which I really doubt)o’s credentials at home could/would be shattered if it were handled poorly. Should this happen, I might actually feel sorry for obama–talk about a rock and a hard place!!! Really feel it’s just ‘testing’ as Biden said, but if I were obama I would not be sleeping well.

jeanie on March 14, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Can you imagine Russia trying this with George Bush?

Even more relevant to this blog, and Michelle Malkin’s blog…

Can you imagine Russia trying this with John McCain?

File Under: Be careful what you wish for.

franksalterego on March 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

tj
Gates will not have to make the decision to retaliate.
The tag team of Lovebama, Briden, and Clintoon will have surrendered the nation well before that time.

Keep the second amendment and keep your powder dry.

Amazed on March 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM

A possible counter.

Missile creep. How ship based missiles are becoming the newest weapon in the Star Wars defense system

William Amos on March 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM

It’s not as well reported but the sea based systems does enjoy considerably more success that the more ambitious but considerably less reliable land based ABM system.

Yakko77 on March 14, 2009 at 12:45 PM

will never exceed my loathing for the “one of us, real american” types.

Like Al Gore? Don’t remember all the talk of “real people” in his campaign? I was wondering where all the fake people were, advances in cloning notwithstanding. America’s non-working families, too. I have not met too many non-working families.

There’s code all over the place, friend.

DrSteve on March 14, 2009 at 12:45 PM

jeanie on March 14, 2009 at 12:41 PM

This is just the opening act. Georgia, the Ukraine, Poland, etc are probably also having a bit of insomnia at night. Putin knows Russia is in a population death spiral and needs more warm bodies under his control to make up the difference.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 12:48 PM

radiofreevillage on March 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I’m asking because I really want to know your perspective here — do you think it would be effective to have someone (not necessarily someone high-level) call Putin on this? Drop the not-so-subtle hint to the Russian public that this looks like behavior motivated by insecurity? Or do they know already?

DrSteve on March 14, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Obama/Pelosi/Reid will plug in the shredder so Putin can destroy the Constitution.

SouthernGent on March 14, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Except that the further gutting of the US Navy has already commenced. The current administration is pushing hard for the Navy to decommission a carrier and it’s associated airwing. That will drop us from 12 to 11 carriers. People might think that’s a lot, but it means we can normally rotate 3 carriers on station at any one time. Three others will be transiting home, three more will be undergoing training, refurbishing and replenishment, while the last one can undergo extensive yardwork.

If we drop it to 11 carriers, that will mean longer deployments, and THAT will mean that sailors will start to vote with their feet. As a former sailor, I accepted long periods deployed as a part of my job. It was a sacrifice i made as a part of my enlistment. However, once you start doing back to back sea tours because of the lack of trained people, and fewer and fewer shore billets, then getting out and doing something else becomes more attractive.

We had a 600 ship Navy under Reagan. We have about 280 right now, with more going to the reserve. Crews are operating with less than optimum manning levels, and being asked to do more with less.

Our maritime Patrol Squadron force is gutted, with barely enough aircraft top sustain current ops, and the replacement has been pushed back further, with money from it’s procurement taken to pay for other programs.

Our supply force is even more perilous. The majority of our supply vessels, upon which our fleet relies for everything from fuel to food to ammunition, is now crewed by civilians. Yup, you read that right. Civilians are crewing our supply ships.

If we were to have to face down the Chinese or the Russians at this point, it could well be a toss up. We’d probably score big in the opening rounds. It’s our likely inability to maintain the fight that would cause us to fold.

We have too few ships, tee few men, and far too few logistical supports to fight the type of war at sea that we will likely face in the coming years.

Somehow, though, we have a trillion dollars to throw away on political backers and union shills.

We are so screwed.

AW1 Tim on March 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Dhimmi Carter must be ecstatic! He’s off the bottom of “that list.”

ex-Democrat on March 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Time to pull out the instructions and order my kit to build my bomb shelter.

A little pricey! I wonder if I can get some stimulus money for this project or maybe I can get a mortgage on it and have my neighbors pay it?

Knucklehead on March 14, 2009 at 12:54 PM

AW1 Tim on March 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM

The Navy has been going through that for some time now. When I served on the USS Carl Vinson CVN-70 back in the 90′s we were almost always undermanned in Repair Div. (I was a Damage Controlman) and we always had to make do with fewer people but had the same work load. Hell, we even got good at trading spare parts with other ships to get parts we needed for maintenance. It struck me as odd that it would even be necessary to have to trade parts just to get what you need to keep things going smoothly but maybe that’s how it’s always been. I don’t know.

Yakko77 on March 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Hate to point this out, but did you notice which FINGER he was using to point to the button?

Just sayin’ – could be Russia’s secret response to the “Reset” button

moonlighter on March 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

If the bombers in questions are Bear bombers, they are little more than B29s. They don’t worry me as much as clandestine long range rocket sites built under cover of bomber bases.

Akzed on March 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM

AW1 Tim on March 14, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Well,…now I’ve got insomnia.

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Hate to point this out, but did you notice which FINGER he was using to point to the button?

Just sayin’ – could be Russia’s secret response to the “Reset” button

moonlighter on March 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Hillary has that effect where you just want to give her the finger.

William Amos on March 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Doesn’t Hillary just do a country proud?

moonlighter on March 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Big surprise! Boy King is viewed as WEAK?? By his logic the people of Russia were wrong for hoping Stalin would be thrown out of power. The world has always and will always views liberals as weak and spineless and the reason for that is, “THEY ARE!!” Now don’t get your PANTIES in a bunch there lib, but you are the same people who were wishing we would lose a war simply to embarrass a president. Like you liberal are the ones who will be putting your life on the line for this country?……Yea Right!!

Russia has been in south America for years and the only good thing we got going for us is Russians are White, everyone know how Michelle fell about Whittie!

try again later on March 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM

***
It’s a good thing that we replaced the untalented, inexperienced, and language challenged Condi Rice with the super brilliant Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.
***
Now we will get to see SMART POWER DIPLOMACY (aka the “Neville Chamberlain”) approach in action. No need for any more Navy, Army, Air Force, or Marine HARD POWER stuff.
***
Someone once asked Joseph Stalin about the Pope’s reaction to a Russian military move. Uncle Joe asked, “How many divisions does the pope have?”.
***
The Patriot Air Defense system was designed to take out many Russki aircraft–and with the PAC-3 Missile does a good job against Tactical Ballistic Missiles. Put the first batteries at Key West. Southern Colombia in the ex FARC controlled areas could help with Mr. Chavez of Venezuela and Evo Morales of Bolivia.
***
However, President O’Bummer (PBUH) will use CLOWN POWER and will WAVE HIS MAGIC WAND to keep us safe. He may pull the Navy back to keep from provoking our enemies.
***
John Bibb
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rocketman on March 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Put the first batteries at Key West.
rocketman on March 14, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Yeah fine, but what if the Rooskies object?

Akzed on March 14, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Barry’s people are now accepting suggestions for anti-Limbaugh Putin billboards. Raul and Hugo, next week on The Daily Show!

Christien on March 14, 2009 at 1:30 PM

But next week is inconvenient, because it is Spring Bread for his girls… So maybe after vacation Barack can worry about this stuff.

petunia on March 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

a capella on March 14, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I don’t think Russia can solve its population problem by annexing the border countries. Ukraine, Poland, et al have population rates that are already below replacement levels. Plus, with Poland and the other new members of the EU, there’s a lot of immigration to the western countries, so their populations are dropping. Also, if the Russians annexed them, they would have to cover all the infastructure and social spending costs of their new “citizens”.
For hundreds of years, Russia has used Eastern Europe as a buffer to protect herself. If Russia invades Ukraine (note, it’s not the Ukraine, that’s like saying the Germany), Poland, etc., it’ll be to re-establish that buffer, as a show of strength to the West, and to enhance the government’s standing domestically.
The Ukrainians, at least, have no illusions about Putin or what he might be capable of doing. They did tend to think that if something were to happen, Bush would intervene to protect them somehow. He was pretty popular with them. With Obama, they’re much more concerned about our willingness to help them. Sad, but true.

Dan859 on March 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Winning the Drudge Report’s Obama vs. Putin shirtless contest must’ve gone to pooty’s head.

Christina_M on March 14, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Did Obama win that? Because there was a reason Putin wanted to be seen world wide… I think Putin won that round without question!

petunia on March 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM

the problem is that the self-centered american people (the ones who voted for Obama) do not fathom real threats out there in the world. They think we can talk our way out of everything.

I think, on the movie “13 days”, one of JFKs aids said they (the Russkies) only respect strength. If you read about russia, and I am now expert on the history of russia, you will see a country that has always been tough and aggressive. These guys are serious, and we are pu$$yfooting around with secret letters and artsy fartsy words.

Obamamessiah is fumbling the foreign policy ball, big time.

Jesus, we are getting pushed around now. Embarrassing. I love how the russians called Obama’s bluff on the missile shield, Med. and Putin knew his liberal ass wasnt going to build a missile shield in eastern Europe.

These assholes never though about pushing Bush around. They knew he would respond in kind.

56 million idiots.

More beer and popcorn please, this show is just getting started!

vsunited on March 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Hate to point this out, but did you notice which FINGER he was using to point to the button?

Just sayin’ – could be Russia’s secret response to the “Reset” button

moonlighter on March 14, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Hillary has that effect where you just want to give her the finger.

William Amos on March 14, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I don’t think that is a universal hand gesture, but anyone who followed the Democratic primary would have to have noticed that Obama sent messages in this exact way.

It would be quite brillant of the Russians to have picked up this way of insulting Obama from Obama himself. Because you really can’t ever be sure they meant it to be an insult or it was an accident.

petunia on March 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM

My eighth grader is studying this in school right now and she missed a day and needs to rent “13 Days” this week-end.

I am actually pretty impressed with her Social Studies teacher this year. She seems to being hitting on the real problems the country is facing… This is the same daughter who is convinced we are in danger of China calling in the debt and taking us over…

I guess all American Schools aren’t only teaching liberal drivel.

petunia on March 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

petunia, what region of the country do you live in?

INC on March 14, 2009 at 2:09 PM

So how do you project direct strength on Russia?
ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Not a student of history, a fatal flaw found in most “progressives” along with a suicidal quest for equivalency. One keeps the bear in its cage by guaranteeing it will find only suffering and pain if it goes on any picnic basket raids.(walk the talk) Your use of the Iraq campaign as an illustration of our weakness is an embarrassment and shows you know absolutely nothing about strategic capability, force projection and the implementation of military power. Both Gulf wars showed any potential adversary the unrivaled might and unbending will of the United States. The world we live in still subscribes to the tried and true maxim of Might makes Right, civilization and all its potential only exists because people have been willing to sacrifice everything for the pursuit of freedom and independence. Obama’s willingness to pervert these values under the guise of the greater good can only serve to endanger if not destroy all we represent and have achieved.

dmann on March 14, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Not a student of history, a fatal flaw found in most “progressives” along with a suicidal quest for equivalency. One keeps the bear in its cage by guaranteeing it will find only suffering and pain if it goes on any picnic basket raids.(walk the talk) Your use of the Iraq campaign as an illustration of our weakness is an embarrassment and shows you know absolutely nothing about strategic capability, force projection and the implementation of military power. Both Gulf wars showed any potential adversary the unrivaled might and unbending will of the United States. The world we live in still subscribes to the tried and true maxim of Might makes Right, civilization and all its potential only exists because people have been willing to sacrifice everything for the pursuit of freedom and independence. Obama’s willingness to pervert these values under the guise of the greater good can only serve to endanger if not destroy all we represent and have achieved.

dmann on March 14, 2009 at 2:09 PM

You misunderstood me. I didnt mean to mention Iraq as an illustration of weakness…i meant to say that we dont have another Iraq to make an example of. I mean, i guess we do, Iran, but that causes more problems than it solves. And the time for responding to the Georgia aggression has passed. Where do we go from here?

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Blame America first!

radiofreevillage on March 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM

That’s not what Ed is doing. That slogan belongs to you and the other San Francisco Democrats.

“…they always blame America first.

INC on March 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Thanks for the clarification. We stay the course, we do not blink. We have great leverage with the proposed missle shield and should use this to our advantage. The Russian saber rattling over this system is just that, a test of will.

dmann on March 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM

HE IS A ONE TERM PRESIDENT

BayCon on March 14, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Why give state to a guy who loathes negotiation? Bolton deserves defense, i have a feeling he’d hang himself trying to get state to do anything he wanted.

I don’t think they will be offering Bolton SOS anytime soon…

“Why would America subject a close ally to this dynamic, playing with the security of an unvarying supporter in world affairs? For America, Israel’s intelligence-sharing, military cooperation and significant bilateral economic ties, among many others, are important national-security assets that should not lightly be put at risk.

“The only understandable answer is that the Obama administration believes that Israel is as much or more of a problem as it is an ally, at least until Israel’s disagreements with its neighbors are resolved. Instead of seeing Israel as a national-security asset, the administration likely sees a relationship complicating its broader policy of diplomatic ‘outreach.’” http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/john_bolton_israel_obama/2009/03/13/191826.html

journeyintothewhirlwind on March 14, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Thanks for the clarification. We stay the course, we do not blink. We have great leverage with the proposed missle shield and should use this to our advantage. The Russian saber rattling over this system is just that, a test of will.

dmann on March 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM

And you know, i was willing to put the shield on the table before. Putin could’ve had alot of people fooled but he played his hand too early. The only prudent response is to immediately put the missile shield on double time, maybe even expand it. Start sending aid to Ukraine to keep their economy going.

Putin messed up big. Rather than try and scare the Russians off…we need to be thinking about a response that furthers US position and leverage.

This is less about Obama seeming week and Putin captializing and more about Putin overstepping considerably and leaving a real opening to cement the shield (justifiably) as well as come to the aid of the Ukrainians before even the Europeans can muster a response.

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM

But Cubans are Obama’s and the democraps’ friends. They just need understanding something those vile republicans never gave the Cubans. It can’t matter that Russian bombers will be ninety miles away, after all, being ninety miles away from your friends, is too great a gulf to bear. Why not station the Russian bombers in Florida or New Orleans. We could include the Russian base as part of the next Omnibus Stimulus package. Think of all those construction jobs it would be creating or saving? Think of all the bridges we would build to have Russians interacting with our local communities. Think of Obama’s place in history for approving such smart diplomacy?

eaglewingz08 on March 14, 2009 at 3:04 PM

ernesto on March 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Good! My inital response was made during my first cup-o-joe, working nights tends to render one punch drunk and without bail. Time to take the bike of the trainer and see if I can avoid road rash on the loop of the new year….talk later!

dmann on March 14, 2009 at 3:12 PM

and to compare Obama to JFK ala Cuban Missile Crisis.

29Victor on March 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Heh, first he’d have to display gonads the size and consistency of Kennedy’s…

Entelechy on March 14, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Don’t worry guys- Obama will come prancing in on his unicorn and sprinkle sunshine and lollipops over all the land!

alwaysright43 on March 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Not to mention the “chocolate” skittles.

baldilocks on March 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Обама–ибанутое чмо

iconoclast on March 14, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Let’s not forget the big red bear in the corner. They are in on this behind the scenes.

lexa on March 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Perhaps with his stem cell research decision, Obummer can gather enough cells to grow himself a spine.

bloviator on March 14, 2009 at 4:07 PM

These moves aren’t serious tactical or strategic threats. Obviously they are political ones. Our Air Defense Artillery and USAF friends would look forward to having new targets on the not-too-distant horizon to shoot down.

Remember when the MSM and a host of others boldly and happily announced that ‘Communism is dead!’ when the Wall came down and the Soviet army (eventually) pulled out of Eastern Europe?

I still gag a little when I see a report or documentary that casually points to the ‘demise of the Soviet Union’, etc. They restructured under a economic/political Chapter 11, nothing more. The same guys and the same ideology is in control in Moscow. In fact, without Cold War antagonism they are doing much better.

They have kicked the chair out from under the Red Scare/McCarthy types…”Red threat? What Red threat? Ha ha ha.”

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM

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