Civilization ends: 46% of Boston teens say battered pop star deserved beating
posted at 5:32 pm on March 13, 2009 by Allahpundit
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If anyone needs me, I’ll be out back committing seppuku. Click the image to watch.
Update: Oh, did I forget to mention that not only did Rihanna take him back, they’re recording a duet together? Anyway, back to my ritual disembowelment.
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I’ll be in the men’s room committing Sudoku.
sulla on March 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM
And in other news “man who beheaded his wife pleads not guilty”. Maybe she also hit him first. No, it is OK, she wanted a divorce.
Johan Klaus on March 13, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Another potential Obama appointee.
Johan Klaus on March 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM
He could have driven her off of a bridge.
Johan Klaus on March 13, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Get beat once shame on him. Get beat twice your a dumb azz. I hear that abused women dont leave the relationship because they have no where to go, have no money ect.. WTF is her excuse? She is good looking, wealthy and popular. She can do whatever she wants.
Greed on March 13, 2009 at 7:48 PM
It’s Boston, they thought she was a bomb.
- The Cat
MirCat on March 13, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Another Whitney Houston. Lovely, talented, makes crappy decision to latch onto low-life and can’t keep it private.
ddrintn on March 13, 2009 at 7:51 PM
For a young black woman that is isolating. Is she going to date some black college guy working at McDonald’s? Take him to the Grammy’s? Her only dating choices are young black males who have status near hers that she can feel comfortable seen with. These are young black rappers. That is her dating circle.
Conan on March 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Yep.
funky chicken on March 13, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Allah, honestly, if this girl thinks she deserved the beating, why should anybody else offer a different opinion?
She didn’t have to remain in the relationship, after all. So, she actually must believe that “the bitch had it coming.”
funky chicken on March 13, 2009 at 7:57 PM
these are liberal and hollywood values in action
Jamson64 on March 13, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Man, he left her with a black eye and a fat lip…terrible!
RealDemocrat on March 13, 2009 at 8:02 PM
I don’t understand the kids who are saying that she must have deserved it. Rosie mentioned her son said the same thing. Unbelievable.
Do they all hate women?
AnninCA on March 13, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I dont know, Singers and models go well together. She cant find some hot GQ guy? Like someone else said i think shes part of the 46%.
Greed on March 13, 2009 at 8:25 PM
My, my, my….where have the feminists’ gone wrong?
varnson on March 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Jamson….this has nothing to do with liberal or Hollywood. It’s very hard to extract women from abusive relationships. They are so often very sick psychologically which is why they chose the creep to begin with, and then it becomes a dance of “death,” so to speak.
It happens in all geographic areas, across all class lines, and in families all around you.
AnninCA on March 13, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Jesus! I can’t believe you said this. I suggest strongly that you read up on domestic violence and why women remain in these types of relationships.
Blake on March 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Jesus! I can’t believe you said this. I suggest strongly that you read up on domestic violence and why women remain in these types of relationships.
Blake on March 13, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Good grief… I’ll be out back helping Allah commit sepuku.
liquidflorian on March 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM
They don’t leave because they are brain washed into thinking it is their fault. They are then given false promises that things will change, the guy won’t hit them anymore, etc. They the reassure her that she will be safe if she returns. That is why they call it a honeymoon period. It is a psychological syndrome. Women who have children and are not rich do have problems because they have no place to go. Plus, what abusers do is isolate their victims so they no longer have friends and family they can go to for help.
Blake on March 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I’m going to be an optimist and think the kids were jamming the pollster on this story.
Too silly to believe.
AnninCA on March 13, 2009 at 8:42 PM
You got it backasswards. It is the abuser who is psychologically sick. The women are subjected to a long period of psychological indoctrination that they are no good, no one but the abuser will love them, isolation from family and friends,etc. It’s very subtle at first. Many women say it could never happen to them but it did.
Blake on March 13, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Well, Blake…..I think both of them are sick cookies.
It’s a dynamic that is very, very hard for others to understand, but it really requires two people who have serious problems to keep this dance going.
AnninCA on March 13, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Sad. Sad. Sad. And sick.
Here’s a palate cleanser for you, Allah (of sorts). Coworker of mine from many years ago came home from her job to her deadbeat husband, found out he was abusing the kids. Packed up the kids, left, never saw husband again. Worked hard, made a life, married a new guy a few years later (great guy), lived happily ever after.
Not all women are *ssholes when it comes to abusers.
Meryl Yourish on March 13, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Teenagers are beating each other up. What do you expect.
JellyToast on March 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM
You are wrong. You are equating the two and it is not correct. This is part of the problem for a women. They are the victim yet they are belittled and falsely labeled as psychologically damaged goods.
Blake on March 13, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Well, this is typical of the misogynist pop culture given by the ganstas.
Queen0fCups on March 13, 2009 at 9:16 PM
You’re a good guy, Allah.
juliesa on March 13, 2009 at 9:33 PM
However far we’ve come on racial equality (a black president DOES go a long way), we’re still immensely behind when it comes to gender equality.
It’s nauseating that you have such a high percentage of people out there who think she either deserved it, or otherwise defend that piece of **** who assaulted her. Has anyone here actually read the police report? He didn’t just slap her once or twice, it was a brutal beating.
The very idea of her going back to him is a whole other big, fine mess (and discussing it would require a detailed analysis into her psychology for doing so), but the excuses people out there are making for this waste of a human being is remarkably depressing.
Vyce on March 13, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Your a victim only if you allow it. Shes got a problem if she stays with him. This is not a 20yr old relationship. How long have they been together 2 years (wild guess). Plenty of women leave abusive guys. Some do well some get killed buy them. but they dont stay. All i can say is if you get beat allot take pics write a diary in great detail, document it all. Then one day when he comes at you, you kill him. Done
Greed on March 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM
You can’t neatly generalize everything into a pop psychology template, either. I’ve known a couple of women who were beaten by their husbands and they got the hell out.
ddrintn on March 13, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Admit it AP…love is in the air! Just wish these two love birds all the happiness that will soon be theirs…and Rihanna, darling…look in the mirror in a few years and you will see Whitney Houston…now that is hawt!
AUINSC on March 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM
That’s what’s sad about it, aside of course from the abuse she’s suffering. She really is talented, I think, and she’s headed for Whitney Hasbeenville awfully young.
ddrintn on March 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Blake…If you think she’s not sick, then Okie dokie.
In the meantime, I’m going to continue to work with women in this situation.
And trust me, until they see how their own patterns fit in?
They will just go from abuser to abuser.
The abuser just finds his mate. They don’t create them.
The solution requires an approach that gets that.
You can certainly try to impose your world view, but I’ve not ever seen it succeed.
Sick attracts sick. It’s just one of those spiritual principles in life.
AnninCA on March 13, 2009 at 10:12 PM
First off, it wasn’t a beating, it was an assault. Secondly, this is from teens whose parents keep voting for Ted Kennedy. What more can I say?
bloggless on March 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM
I don’t agree…I don’t believe that just because someone does something mind-boggling stupid, that they are the victim of a mental disorder or disease or whatever. People make incredibly stupid choices every day (see the election results of November 4, 2008 if you doubt me). And they must live with those consequences. She has made her decisions…talented or now…she is no more or less deserving of compassion than any of us.
AUINSC on March 13, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Waste is always sad.
ddrintn on March 13, 2009 at 10:55 PM
This should come as repulsive to anyone, regardless of political persuasion, ideology, sex, weight, race, I don’t give a rat’s tail what else. Disgusting.
Ryan Gandy on March 13, 2009 at 11:29 PM
tAKING LESSONS LEARNED FROM THEIR GREAT sENATOR tEDDY.
lasertex on March 13, 2009 at 11:35 PM
It’s the human condition. At least she made it of her own free will…there are many virtuous, talented people in this world who have been destroyed without being given any choices at all. To those go my pity.
AUINSC on March 14, 2009 at 1:00 AM
I love it when the woman is depicted as a helpless victim in cases like these. I had a neighbor whose wife beat the hell out of him, and if he dared to defend himself all of a sudden she made it look like he was the one beating her.
At this time, I don’t think we really know what caused this event. I will say that if a woman comes at you like a man then she should be treated just like a man, and not use the old line of: “You can’t hit me! I’m a girl!” when she gets hit back. Unpopular view I know, but that’s how I look at it.
Hick on March 14, 2009 at 1:13 AM
You need to go to bed Hick that isn’t a set of self-defense wounds she has.
Conan on March 14, 2009 at 1:21 AM
A)If a woman can beat the hell out of you you should toughen up. No woman is going to beat her old man to death. And if your woman is too punchy then leave and find some other woman. Simple.
B)Who was his wife Kathy Long? It’s complete Bullshit to claim you should fight a woman when she hits you. Only bitches hit women.
C) Your view isn’t just unpopular, it’s pretty much evil. Being a Man means something, and men don’t beat up their old ladies, period. Chris Brown,, your douche neighbor and anyone who puts their hands on a woman deserve to be horsewhipped.
Rob Taylor on March 14, 2009 at 1:23 AM
This is very bad but not very surprising. Hardly worth comitting “seppuku” over.
Rappers and black male entertainers are feted for the violent, misoyginistic “entertainment” they provide to the general public.
A lot of black kids get suckered into crime cause they think it’s cool to be “street” (or whatever) after listening to “gangsta” rap dross. By the time they have figured out it’s a lie many of them are already serving long prison sentences and their lives are irreparably ruined.
aengus on March 14, 2009 at 1:36 AM
But she ain’t no nappie-headed crack ho!? Or are she?
apco on March 14, 2009 at 2:26 AM
Thinking that Rihanna deserve it, is not the same as thinking that Chris Brown was justified in doing it.
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The human mind has several ways to tolerate the intolerable including, but not necessarily limited to.
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1. Submit. There is nothing you can do that won’t make things worse, so do nothing. Only effective for a short time.
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2. Fight. Only works if you can win. Having the snot beaten out of you, but attracting an outside party to intervene on your behalf, counts as win.
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3. Identify. You become to believe that the abuser is right in their abuse, and therefore you become partner in the abuse. It is often called Stockholm Syndrome.
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4. Bluff. Take on the appearance of 1, 3, or 5, while preparing for 2 or 6.
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5. Disassociate. Go crazy, nothing they do to your body matters, no one is home. Multiple personalities is a common out come of this, especial in children.
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6. Escape.
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7. Die.
darktood on March 14, 2009 at 2:35 AM
Er. It is. You might be splitting hairs by saying it shouldn’t have been Chris brown administering the beating but if you claim this woman “deserves” to be brutally beaten you are claiming that someone is justified in brutally beating them. I refuse to accept that a woman “deserves” to be brutalized.
I agree that many people end up in abusive situations through their own bad choices, but that doesn’t mean they then “deserve” to be abused. It’s like saying people who bungee jump “deserve” to have their cord break or people who get high “deserve” to overdose. Both those things are foolish, and you can counsel against them, but when tragedy happens we don’t say the people “deserved” to die.
Hmmm. I wonder if you guys think Alec Baldwin’s daughter deserved to be called names? Or if Nicole Brown deserved the abuse she suffered from OJ when they were married? I’m going to go out on a limb and say probably not.
Rob Taylor on March 14, 2009 at 4:16 AM
Maybe the media should concentrate on taking a close look at the school system in Boston that created the moral mentality of the 46% of the teens who said Rhianna deserved to be beaten up. These kids didn’t learn this stupidity on their own. They got it from somewhere other than listening to crappy rap songs all day.
pilamaye on March 14, 2009 at 8:13 AM
There are plenty of successful, well off young black males that aren’t thugs.
angryed on March 14, 2009 at 8:35 AM
How is this surprising? There’s a whole generation of kids that have been indoctrinated by the rap/crap culture of “wantin’ to be bustin’ on my beotches an’ hoes” I don’t necessarily want to go back to the days of Ricky Nelson, just back to maybe, I don’t know, Led Zeppelin? These rap guys kinda suck anyway…………
adamsmith on March 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM
The truth. Someone did something and someone reacted. Between doing and reaction lies the truth. If no one else was present, the truth is in the mind of respondent and responder. Therein the problem, two truths surrounding a single action.
The survey highlights a third truth. The ‘I want it now’ types using technology (media and internet) to convince others their version of the truth is the truth.
Let’s use our minds and technology to solve the bigger problem ‘abuse’, vice rendering an opinion as the truth.
MSGTAS on March 14, 2009 at 10:45 AM
I hope you’re right, because if you’re not, we’re all screwed.
TheRook on March 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Only if the Celtics or RedSox lose is it ok to beat your wife,
-John Kerry “I went to Vietnam”..
lasertex on March 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM
She was beaten soooo bad that she is ready to sing a duet with the chump on their next album. It was all for the PUB fools.-OpiRah
lasertex on March 14, 2009 at 11:43 AM
My high school boyfriend hit me once while we were visiting his grandma in the sleepy little town of Chapel Hill, Texas. I weighed about 98 lbs at the time and do not know where I found the strength, but I beat the sh!t out of him in front of his grandma, and believe it or not, she was cheering me on. I am not and never have been a fighter, don’t know where that ass whoopin’ came from, but needless to say, I never saw that jerk again.
silenced majority on March 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM
good thing we quit teaching all that silly morality in school. them old white men believed in all that silly religous stuff. You know, kids are smart they can figure out what is right and wrong on their own. Besides one mans terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. I mean in Iran he could have cut her head off. So we’s cool!
pgrossjr on March 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Now hold on here
She Deserved a beating?
For what?
Being black?
being a woman>?
or are all of these kids muslims..
jcila on March 14, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Deserved it, no. Earned it, probably, Earned a repeat, almost certainly.
Nobody deserves to get that kind of treatment outside of formal combat. She stepped into her relationship with the dirtbag. To that extent she earned it. Going back to such a known risk is so damnfool it’s unbelievable. She has EARNED a new beating. She still does not deserve it.
Sadly, “earned” is a word that seems to be dropping out of use in the US these days.
{^_^}
herself on March 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM
I’d like to note that I work in the high school in Somerville, MA. This same attitude is very much in evidence among those kids, too. They honestly believe this and are most definitely not just “jamming the pollster.”
I’ve asked why and the common answer has to do with the idea that Rihanna either “gave him VD” (the most common answer, and one that isn’t supported by facts) or else that she “shouldn’t be snoopin’ on her man.”
Mercutio on March 14, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Just to clarify here…..
If a woman starts hitting a man for some reason, does this mean the man is still completely wrong for hitting her back? No matter what your gender is, if your big enough to hit someone then you’re big enough to get hit back. This is not condoning what happened at all, this is a simple fact.
I’ve seen it too many times when a woman hits a guy first and screams out “You can’t hit me, I’m a girl!” when she gets hit back. Everyone seems to assume that the man is always in the wrong if he hits a woman. In some cases that is true, but there are some cases where that is not true. In the situation I first described, this girl would just start beating on the guy when she got mad at him, then fell back on the above-mentioned excuse when he defended himself. Either that, or she would get her brother-in-laws involved if he tried to defend himself. Her own father told him to not let her just beat on him like that and to punch her back.
Hick on March 15, 2009 at 3:27 AM
Well, it seems racism is no longer acceptable in our society (at least not out in the open) however misogyny is still alive and kicking in the music world (check out most rap or rock videos), movies, politics (hillary’s and sarah’s brutal treatment in 2008) and so on. However, I am still shocked by this study. It does not bode well for our future. Parents – you need to step up and educate your kids that violence is not an acceptable part of a relationship.
sarahpalinfan99 on March 15, 2009 at 6:32 AM
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The difference is small but important. And if it is their own bungee cords that failed do to neglect, yes they do.
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For being stupid.
darktood on March 16, 2009 at 4:33 AM
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I agree.
darktood on March 16, 2009 at 4:36 AM
Just another black on black crime.
workingforpigs on March 16, 2009 at 9:23 AM
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