California budget gap $8 billion more than expected
posted at 5:05 pm on March 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Remember when Abel Maldonado signed onto the Schwarzenegger-Democratic plan to hike taxes because it was the only way to close the budget shortfall in California? Well, don’t look now, but the entire plan turned out to be based on a faulty premise. The state’s legislative analyst says revenues will fall far short of even those expectations, and that the legislature still spent $8 billion more than it will get:
The California Legislature’s budget analyst says the recession has created another $8 billion hole in the state’s budget just weeks after the end of a bruising fight to close a $42 billion gap through June 2010.
Legislative Analyst Mac Taylor says in the report released Friday that California’s 10.1 percent unemployment rate, further declines in the stock market and lower tax collections have led to lower revenue projections. He expects the new $8 billion budget gap in the fiscal year that begins July 1.
Maybe it’s time to hire a new legislative analyst. After all, California’s budget problem springs from a legislature incapable of living within its means. Their solution has always been to penalize someone else, usually the taxpayers. Getting rid of the analyst makes perfect sense for their nonsensical approach to fiscal discipline.
What will the state do? Arnold will start talking about how Californians have to sacrifice more by giving more of their money to Sacramento. Republicans will try to remain united in an effort to get the legislature to scale back its massive budget. Democrats will call Republicans heartless and unreasonable, and Arnold will find any media outlet he can to agree with them. Eventually, they’ll peel Maldonado off again, and raise taxes.
And then the economy will slow down even more, and the legislative analyst will report that revenues have decreased even further, and Arnold will start talking about how Californians have to sacrifice more by giving more of their money to Sacramento. Republicans will try to remain united in an effort to get the legislature to scale back its massive budget. Democrats will call Republicans heartless and unreasonable, and Arnold will find any media outlet he can to agree with them. Eventually, they’ll peel Maldonado off again, and raise taxes.
And then the economy will slow down even more, and the legislative analyst will report that revenues have decreased even further, and Arnold will start talking about how Californians have to sacrifice more by giving more of their money to Sacramento. Republicans will try to remain united in an effort to get the legislature to scale back its massive budget. Democrats will call Republicans heartless and unreasonable, and Arnold will find any media outlet he can to agree with them. Eventually, they’ll peel Maldonado off again, and raise taxes.
And then the economy will slow down even more, and the legislative analyst will report that revenues have decreased even further, and Arnold will start talking about how Californians have to sacrifice more by giving more of their money to Sacramento. Republicans will try to remain united in an effort to get the legislature to scale back its massive budget. Democrats will call Republicans heartless and unreasonable, and Arnold will find any media outlet he can to agree with them. Eventually, they’ll peel Maldonado off again, and raise taxes.
(Californians who get the picture, meanwhile, will be leaving.)
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goat on March 13, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Hey tried to leave you a message let me know if you get it. Alex
Alex Martinez on March 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM
I live in SoCal, and it’s worse than you think. Maldonado and the other Republicans who voted for the package weren’t “peeled off” there was a conspiracy by a large group of them, including the leadership, to make it look like they were resisting (most signed “no new taxes” pledges during elections) but secretly cut a deal to let the 3 least vulnerable to re-election competition cast the yes votes. There are very very few who are being honest about this – Chuck DeVore being one possibility, but who knows for sure?
Disgusting.
peski on March 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Yep. This is what happened. The GOP in California are useless frauds.
Mark1971 on March 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Indeed, part of why my sister in law “saw the light” and voted for Ogabe….
well how’s that working out for ya darlin’???
sven10077 on March 13, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I heard this comment this afternoon on a news program Ed and I laughed because
everyonemany have the mindset that folks can afford to just pick up and move to another location like going across town to a different barber. It just isn’t that easy. While some folks very well may relocate, I think it’s a joke to think there will be some kind of mass exodus.It would be more prudent to have a major change in the State Capitol and the legislature with a massive tax revolt while replacing the liberal spending mindset than picking up stakes.
Rovin on March 13, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Alex Martinez on March 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM
My email addy is in my blog profile at my site.
goat on March 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
My email addy is in my blog profile at my site.
goat on March 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Tried that, said I need outlook xpress 36 or something. Heck I’m on dial up. So it takes like 3 day to do something. Heres mine nail_it_3@live.com holler in April.
Alex Martinez on March 13, 2009 at 7:08 PM
One reason that a lot of people can’t leave California is because their homes are worth less now than they owe on them. They are stuck living in them because they can’t sell.
Mark1971 on March 13, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Last one out, turn off the windmills, save the birds.
tarpon on March 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM
I left California for good in 2002 and I was never happier in my life when I saw the sign that read “You are now entering Nevada”.
Jdripper on March 13, 2009 at 7:21 PM
I envy you so much. If I only had the means to leave…
Grayson on March 13, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Thats why I’m mailing in my keys, I don’t like it but its my only option at this point. I am leaving before I have to pay 600$ for my truck tag in a couple months or my property taxes.
goat on March 13, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Alex,
I dropped you a line.
goat on March 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM
We made it out about eight months before you. ONE week before the last fires…our old place took a $40K hit just from that.
I was born and raised in Los Angeles, but I got to Texas as soon as I could. Haven’t regretted it one day yet – even when we were staring down Ike’s eyeball (he turned right at Houston).
X_LA_Native on March 13, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Mark1971 on March 13, 2009 at 7:08 PM
I’m way up north in Humboldt county now Mark. The cost of living is a good 30% less than the rest of the state. And the home values have not gone down as sharply. Then, of course the wages are a bit lower too, but it’s heaven up here compared to the city-dwellin’ rat chasers. I watched the housing boom that started in the eightys and knew this would come to an end sometime. The problem was (as always) as the tax revenues grew with economy, so did the spending and entitlements by our never-ending liberal legislature.
Who ever mentioned tripling the car registration or raising taxes in this thread either left off the sarc tag or is a complete idiot. Paying for stupid out of control social programs by raising taxes just reduces the spending base of the consumers. It would be a recipe for a downward spiral.
Rovin on March 13, 2009 at 7:32 PM
The sad thing is that when many folks move from California to a new place they instantly being trying to turn their new home into California.
el rey on March 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM
C’mon. The California Legislature has more important issues to deal with right now. They are busy trying to decide if they should dispense with marriage altogether. This budget stuff will wait. /s
Mallard T. Drake on March 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Hey, bring in more Illegal Aliens, that’ll solve the problem…BWahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RealDemocrat on March 13, 2009 at 7:51 PM
I’m a second-generation life-long Californian, and I’m already seeking a job elsewhere to get out. The libs have completely f’ed up this state. It’s a damn shame. It used to be a nice place to live. I now want my kids to grow up somewhere else.
PersonalLiberty on March 13, 2009 at 8:14 PM
c’mon guys. You have to pay more taxes. Those illegals need all the services they can get and the government unions are there to help them.
iconoclast on March 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM
They will not get more taxes. Period.
AnninCA on March 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I would like to know why Prop 71 funding hasn’t been brought up here, or in the MSM?
Prop 71 “locked down” $3 billion dollars in funding for stem cell research in “Cahlyfornya” over a 10 year period. $300 MILLION dollars per year that is supposed to be “beyond” the Governor and the State’s Legislature’s ability to curtail.
Why is this important? Well, although I admire the California tradition of “proposition” democracy (not) … the rest of us shouldn’t be paying for it. I certainly hope California isn’t given additional “bailout” funds to keep their state government solvent – while they’re wasting 300 Million per year on the luxury of “stem cell research”.
And they aren’t the only ones … New York, New Jersey, Connecticut – they all did have programs like this – and may still have – though their programs may be easier to cut.
This needs to be looked into!
HondaV65 on March 13, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I had an “involuntary transfer” to the SF Bay area with my employer in 2003 and found another job in another state in 07. I was never so happy to leave a place; it was like being one of only a few sane people in the asylum.
A lot of my friends and co-workers want to leave but have family obligations.
mad scientist on March 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM
The sad thing is that when many folks move from California to a new place they instantly being trying to turn their new home into California.
el rey on March 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM
South Florida seems to be suffering from that delusion.
Some cities are becoming unliveable.
mad scientist on March 13, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I will actually be warning about the dangers of doing that.
goat on March 13, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Very true! So true in fact that this point was repeated no less than 3 times :)
All I can add is this: Californians need to drill here, drill now if they want to solve their interminable budget problems without screwing taxpayers and possibly causing a mass exodus.
Buy Danish on March 13, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Yes! And the Guns, people can carry guns up here. Verrry Dangerous. And the Cold, did someone mention the cold. Brrrrr! Washington State Bad, Florida Good!
GunRunner on March 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM
I did work in Sacramento for a while, and it’s true–this is all political kabuki for the masses. The party caucuses tally up the votes way before the vote is taken, and anyone with a tough race coming up is excused, and anyone who balks is told “vote my way or the highway.” They are dependent on the caucus for election funds, so they do it.
I knew two guys who were in the legislature briefly, and they both say it’s completely humiliating, and corrupting if you stick around.
I would imagine it’s the same on the national level. So be ready to hold the Reps feet to the fiscal fire when they win back some seats in 2010.
PattyJ on March 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM
The California legislature is a bunch of useless schmucks, and has been for some time — which is why there are occasional sharp shocks to the system, such as Prop 13 (limits real estate property taxes to 1% of purchase price, adjusted by an inflation factor), Prop 98 (mandates education funding, regardless of other idiocies passed by legislature), or term limits.
The problem is that the posturing and gesturing and out-of-control pandering has to get to an extreme level before the populace pulls the plug on it, and when they do they create an iron straitjacket that often has hidden problems.
Prop 13, for instance, limits property taxes on personal homes — which need only be sold upon the demise of the owner — but also limits property taxes for real estate held by corporations, which never die. This distorts the market to such an extent that a company desiring a headquarters would be better off acquiring another corporation’s stock if they already have a headquarters (with a low assessed value) than buying the same building outright.
It would not unduly surprise me that this current budget gyration leads to yet another nuclear ballot proposition — like eliminating public employee unions, eliminating defined benefit pensions, hard spending caps, or mandated curbs on state legislators. Anger is bubbling up.
cthulhu on March 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM
All I can add is this: Californians need to drill here, drill now if they want to solve their interminable budget problems without screwing taxpayers and possibly causing a mass exodus.
Buy Danish on March 13, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Sane advice to insane people…..
Brrrrr! Washington State Bad, Florida Good!
GunRunner on March 13, 2009 at 11:01 PM
LOL funny.
OneConservative on March 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM
It might be less expensive to just give Ca. to Mexico.
la.rt.wngr on March 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM
I was born in Yakmia if things get too bad down here in San Diego I can suffer the cold of my birth place again… ;p
doriangrey on March 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Eventually it will come down to not having the means to stay.
I left, back in 2001. I’ll not be returning. I make less where I am, but have more to show for it.
DngrMse on March 14, 2009 at 11:31 AM
I have a 35+ year career as CFO in mid sized companies. The only explanation for errors like this is incompetence or dishonesty (see Madoff). Like GM, we need 2 billion. Oh wait maybe not! I realize it is a big company but how do you miss your forecast by $2,000,000,000 in a matter of weeks? That is a lot of rounding!
pgrossjr on March 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
No only from California, when they move down south from New England, New Jersey, New York, etc. they bring the same Liberal tax & spend mentality with them.
“Well, up north we had blah blah blah…”
Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2009 at 3:28 PM
The fun never stops!
Here’s LA Mayor Tony V’s latest proposal to
wastespend our taxpayer money via the gang reduction slush fund: Scholarships for LA “undocumented”PattyJ on March 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM
The next move for CA will be for the State to take by eminent domain, all private property. They don’t have to pay a penny to do that and the US Supreme Court has established that it is legal for the “common good” or something. They then can establish a fair (this is a government term that means almost anything) rent so the inhabitants can pay directly to the government. This revenue can be used to pay for all public services and to further line the pockets of the corrupt politicians. They can declare all debts null and void and we are off to the races. Far fetched????
Pardonme on March 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM
The newly discovered deficit is actually worse than $8 billion since that amount assumes, beyond all reason, that borrowing $5 billion from the state lottery is found money, that increased taxes will have no disincentive impact on future tax revenues, and that even more than can be realistically anticipated in “stimulus” money will find its way from D.C. to Sacramento. The number I’ve seen already is that the deficit is actually an optimistic $16 billion… and counting. Thus, the next round of Ed’s vicious cycle will start very soon.
boqueronman on March 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM
I moved from San Diego to SW Florida in 2007 and soooo glad that I did. I still have a bunch of friends over there. Those that have jobs are complaining about the new taxes and lack of refund checks. What the hell are they thinking in Sacto with IOUs? Really? IOUs? Unbelieveable!!!
Those that don’t have jobs are now scrambling to pack everything and find more friendly environs for work. California’s sunny weather “sunshine tax” is worth only so much.
Speaking of, I still have a bit of a CA tax bill from earlier years. Maybe I should send Ahnold an IOU. Or a bill for giving him my vote twice….
Shawn92101 on March 16, 2009 at 8:56 AM
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