Why has Obama neglected Treasury?

posted at 12:55 pm on March 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

President Barack Obama’s handy excuse for all sorts of goofs and missteps is that he’s too busy working on fixing the economy.  In order to do that, one might expect that Obama would concentrate on building his economic team at the Department of the Treasury, where most of those efforts would originate and get managed.  Instead, as noted earlier today, phones go unanswered at Treasury — and our allies and trading partners have begun complaining about the lack of effort in the White House.

Reports have floated around that “dozens” of positions remain unfilled at Treasury, most recently in the New York Times’ profile of Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner:

Compounding the strain on the Treasury, almost all the top posts beneath Mr. Geithner are still vacant. Though he has hired about 50 senior advisers — about half the number he hopes to recruit — the White House has become so worried about potential tax problems and other issues in the backgrounds of candidates that it has nominated only a handful of people.

From that, we know that more than four dozen positions remain unfilled — positions that Geithner has to fill himself.  But what about positions that the White House has to appoint?  I researched that question this morning, and found the list of positions at Treasury that require White House appointment and Senate confirmation.  It’s quite a list:

  • Secretary
  • Deputy Secretary
  • Under Secretary — Domestic Finance
  • Under Secretary — International Affairs
  • Under Secretary — Terrorism and Financial Intelligence
  • Assistant Secretary — Economic Policy
  • Assistant Secretary — Financial Markets
  • Assistant Secretary (Deputy Under Secretary) — International Affairs
  • Assistant Secretary (Deputy Under Secretary) — Legislative Affairs
  • Assistant Secretary — Management and Chief Financial Officer
  • Assistant Secretary — Public Affairs/Director — Policy Planning
  • Assistant Secretary — Tax Policy
  • Chief Counsel — Internal Revenue Service/Assistant General Counsel for Tax
  • Commissioner — Internal Revenue (five-year terms of office)
  • General Counsel
  • Inspector General
  • Inspector General — Tax Administration
  • Treasurer — United States

The White House has responsibility for appointing these 18 positions.  Those appointments get handled by the Senate Finance Commitee, which after receiving the formal nominations, has to do background checks and other information gathering to prepare committee members for their hearings.  It takes some time to get a nomination from the White House to a confirmation vote, but the clock doesn’t start — it can’t start — until Obama makes each nomination.

How many of these positions has Obama filled with a formal nomination?  According to the White House website, this many:

  • Secretary – Tim Geithner

That’s it.  Just the one nomination, for what Barack Obama says is his greatest priority and gives as an excuse for his diplomatic incompetence.  And these are just the political appointments that require Senate confirmation.  It will take weeks to fill these positions even after the appointments get made, but Obama hasn’t even gotten to Step 1.

One of the basic tasks of any executive is staffing.  In fact. it’s one of the chief complaints Republicans have with their new RNC chair, Michael Steele, who canned the staff and has yet to replace them.  Obama has the responsibility to staff all of the positions in his administration, and especially where he keeps claiming his attention is placed.  Instead of making it a priority,, Obama has left Treasury bereft of senior leadership.  The failure to staff Treasury speaks volumes about his priorities –  and his competence.

Update: I wanted to make sure that people understood that Obama hasn’t nominated anyone for these positions.  The Finance Committee can’t process what they don’t get.    I tightened up the language to make that clear.


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Ed:
The same article answers your question:

[T]he White House has become so worried about potential tax problems and other issues in the backgrounds of candidates that it has nominated only a handful of people.

Obama has, however, nominated an Assistant Secretary for Congressional relations!

Meanwhile, Dennis Kucinich was scheduled to hold hearings today on Treasury’s non-existent oversight of TARP recipients. Republicans may yet be grateful for Democratic grandstanding.

JM Hanes on March 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

All brackets expire at the end of this year. Also, at the end of this year, the estate tax disappears for one year.

Has Obama introduced any legislation to address these matters yet? I’d think he’d be working on legislation to extend the Bush rates for those below the top two brackets and to provide a fix for the estate tax.

Crickets.

BuckeyeSam on March 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I don’t think he really intends to stop the across the board tax increase. It will just happen and the media will pretend not to notice.

myrenovations on March 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

BuckeyeSam on March 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Honestly, sometimes I wonder if someone’s idea of a temporary Social Security fix is a lot of assisted suicides at the end of 2010 to get around that estate tax.

Snowed In on March 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

He’s BUSY.

Busy socializing the country.

Given his scat attention to the banking issue, it makes one think that this “crisis” is not really a crisis after all.

drjohn on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

In fact. it’s one of the chief complaints Republicans have with their new RNC chair, Michael Steele, who canned the staff and has yet to replace them.

In this situation, my guess is that the prudent thing to do, and is most likely being done, is to evaluate the organizational structure to determine if it is necessary to restructure by adding, eliminating or reclassifying staff positions before any hiring actually takes place. I think that’s more about grumbling and discontent. On one hand Steele has those who wanted a house cleaning at the RNC and on the other hand are those that are complaining about the house cleaning at the RNC. Steele just needs to go ahead and do what he’s been elected to do and ignore the whining.

As far as Team Obama is concerned, they remind me of when we used to play school and we all knew who sat in the big chair and we all knew what the roles were but that was the limit of our ability … a playhouse.

Texas Gal on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

It just struck me as funny that 50 days into his administration, after almost three months of transition, Obama is flailing about. But right after the election in November, so many Democrats and members of the press wanted to put him into office right away, no transition.

myrenovations on March 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM

The piece neglected to mention that one of Treasury’s big programs to help American hit so hard by this economic crisis (LOL) the mortgage modification program, has yet to actually get their website running. I thought this was the most tech-savvy admin in history? More than a week after the program kicked off publicly and no official site?!?

bryanmyrick on March 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Secretary – Dick Grayson all grown up
Deputy Secretary – Outsourced to India
Under Secretary — Domestic Finance – Outsourced to India
Under Secretary — International Affairs – Outsourced to India
Under Secretary — Terrorism and Financial Intelligence – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary — Economic Policy – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary — Financial Markets – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary (Deputy Under Secretary) — International Affairs – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary (Deputy Under Secretary) — Legislative Affairs – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary — Management and Chief Financial Officer – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary — Public Affairs/Director — Policy Planning – Outsourced to India
Assistant Secretary — Tax Policy
Chief Counsel — Internal Revenue Service/Assistant General Counsel for Tax – No need for Tax Attorney (at least under Giethner)
Commissioner — Internal Revenue (five-year terms of office)
General Counsel
Inspector General – Outsourced to India
Inspector General — Tax Administration
Treasurer — United States – Outsourced to India

Think of the savings to the taxpayer by not filling these positions.

Or, on a more realistic level, since the Treasury doesn’t have any money, why do we need Underubermiesters?

BobMbx on March 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

It just struck me as funny that 50 days into his administration, after almost three months of transition, Obama is flailing about. But right after the election in November, so many Democrats and members of the press wanted to put him into office right away, no transition.

myrenovations on March 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM

ohhh man i forgot about that….hahahaaa wow

just think we could be on Porkulus #3 by now…
we could have insulted twice as many foreign countries…
and OBiden could have made 5 times the number of Gaffes…

alexraye on March 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Y’all still don’t get it do you?
It’s BUSH’S fault!

fumpbump on March 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM

If this guy would quit bouncing around the country burning up jet fuel, he might have time to actually do some work. Maybe he will give that some thought at his Wednesday night Waygu steak party. Who will be playing tonight? The Carbon Cap & Trade Trio?

joedoe on March 11, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Well, Obama has priorities, and then he has PRIORITIES. Social re-engineering is under the heading of PRIORITIES. That other thing….the economy….that’s just the ‘crisis’ engine driving priorities that are driving PRIORITIES.

Simple,huh?

GarandFan on March 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I just heard Andrea Mitchell interview Barney Frank on this issue and she quoted Tom Friedman:


Yet I read that we’re actually holding up dozens of key appointments at the Treasury Department because we are worried whether someone paid Social Security taxes on a nanny hired 20 years ago at $5 an hour. That’s insane. It’s as if our financial house is burning down but we won’t let the Fire Department open the hydrant until it assures us that there isn’t too much chlorine in the water. Hello?”

Barney Frank didn’t mention, of course, that Obama had made no appointments. He blamed the media for focusing on minor issues with appointments making it difficult to find perfect nominees. Andrea Mitchell, of course, pled guilty meaning there will be no focus on potential issues with nominees from her anyway. The hypocrisy of these people knows no bounds.

msmveritas on March 11, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Just wondering, now that Ed brought this up, how many positions in other departments have the same status as these in Treasury? Hmm… would be interesting……..

catlady on March 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Think of the savings to the taxpayer by not filling these positions.

Or, on a more realistic level, since the Treasury doesn’t have any money, why do we need Underubermiesters?

BobMbx on March 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

They do need additional manpower at Treasury,..in the printing press area.

a capella on March 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

So it’s the Republican’s fault for demanding honest people in government as to why the Treasury department is not fully staffed? Wow…I thought them blaming Bush was mildly retarded but this takes it to entirely new levels.

txaggie on March 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Why do so many people in this country, despite the growing pile of evidence to the contrary, still believe that the Organizer is actually working to improve this economy.

He isn’t, as improving this economy would be detrimental to his real mission.

-Dave

Dave R. on March 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

txaggie on March 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Yup, Rush is on a roll now about Friedman blaming Republicans for this. Wow. Someone better tell him Andrea Mitchell promised to back off so they can roll every non tax paying scoundrel in the Treasury with her blessing. I guess we Republicans have more influence than we thought /sarc

msmveritas on March 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Here’s a question: How do you know Obama hasn’t already filled those positions?

Dusty on March 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Just wondering, now that Ed brought this up, how many positions in other departments have the same status as these in Treasury? Hmm… would be interesting……..

catlady on March 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Almost all of them. I follow this pretty closely. Information is hard to get on the subcabinet appointees, though the White House has finally started posting the nominations sent to the Senate on its website. Almost no Assistant Attorney general positions have been nominated, including the heads of the Criminal Division and the Environment and Natural Resources Division. The head of the Federal Housing Administration is vacant, at a time when FHA business is exploding and reports of mounting losses and fraud are coming in. No assistant secretaries have been nominated at Interior, or Labor, or Transportation.

The normal vetting process for any Senate-confirmed nominee is extraordinarily long. It includes a virtual proctological exam of your entire life by the FBI, going all the way back to interviewing people you went to high school with. The FBI is overloaded at the beginning of every administration with background checks. Then the Senate Committee usually wants to do its own background check.

This administration is asking potential nominees for 10 years of tax returns. Somebody is slowly going through all of those to look for bombs that could embarrass the President, especially nanny taxes and extraordinary deductions. Any nominee that has had a blog or online presence is subject to having every word he/she ever wrote analyzed as well.

rockmom on March 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Why is it so hard to find a Democrat who pays taxes? They are always saying we are under-taxed. Now we know the real reason why they are saying that.

pedestrian on March 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM

My two cents: I think that Barry just wanted to position for the “rockstar” status. I don’t think that he fully intended to run anything…. That’s what the hired help is for…

CynicalOptimist on March 11, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Another post about Obama’s “incompetence”.

It would just kill you to say he did any of this intentionally. I guess that would kill your narrative that Obama really wants the economy to do better.

Liberals want POWER. The crisis is a major opportunity, as most of them willingly admit. They are acting on it in ways to serve their interests. Some have admitted the end goal: to nationalize banks, energy, health care, etc…

Stop with the Bush-like “Obama’s an idiot” BS.

nottakingsides on March 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM

This is obvious: the longer Treasury Dept top spots go unfilled, the more direct power the Diaper Dandy has over all aspects of economic policy. No Undersecretaries to go to when theres a problem? Call the WH. No leadership from anyone including Geithner? Call the WH.

This makes perfect sense to me especialy in the context of Rahmbo’s comment about not wasting a crisis.

Obama is keeping the power of the purse close to himself for as long as possible, something that I dont think the press or Dems would ever have tolerated from Bush or McCain.

Mike D. on March 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM

None of this matters! We need some more articles about what dress Michelle wore today!

sabbott on March 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM

There’s no way the Barry and Tax Man Tim can find 1, never mind 17, credible candidates that will sign up for their fiscal agenda of Marxist-Leninism.

phreshone on March 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM

He doesn’t want anyone in Treasury that would actually work to fix the problems or expose what is really going on. Gotta stay with the “plan.”

genso on March 11, 2009 at 2:38 PM

rockmom on March 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Thanks for the info.

myrenovations on March 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

According to “Andrea Mitchell, NBC News” it’s the media’s fault Barry can’t fill these positions. Something about the unreasonableness of the public expecting these candidates to have a clean tax record….and you know, stuff like that, standards…and maybe honesty….totally unnecessary attributes in this administration.

anniekc on March 11, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Capitalism is a failure, why would Barry need a treasury…

phreshone on March 11, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Ed, how dare you question any of this. Remember, we were told one of the reasons to elect Obama was his “superior judgement.”

He’s just giving us a head fake before revealing it.

irishspy on March 11, 2009 at 2:47 PM

nottakingsides on March 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM

He’s only an idiot because he thinks liberalism is the better way. On everything else, I fully agree with you.

Grafted on March 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM

And the DJIA starts to retrace. Sold March calls yesterday that it appears will expire worthless in ten days. I am generally not a short and I work a full time job so trading in this environment is tough for me.

However, I liquidated almost all my equity holdings months ago and only had about 10-15% exposure to the market since last April.

My best pick? Family Dollar Stores are up 58% since I purchased in May of ’08! Wish I had had the nuts to short the overall market with my entire net worth at that time.
Oh well, at least I am not as damaged as many (yet).

riverrat10k on March 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Just think of all those jobs Obama has created saved left unfilled by passing signing worrying so much about the d*** “stimulus” bill!

cackcon on March 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM

He should do what he used to do…. put some fliers out in the neighborhood announcing an anti-capitalism rally. Then when a bunch of deadbeats show up just pick 4 dozen of them.

Qualifications don’t matter.

roux on March 11, 2009 at 2:54 PM

What’s all the fuss about the treasury department? After obie ruins our economy we won’t need no stinking tresury department … change you can believe in.

Dukehoopsfan on March 11, 2009 at 2:59 PM

So this is how Obama plans to balance the budget.

MarkTheGreat on March 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM

I wish there was some way to compare this to previous presidents. I don’t really understand the depth of this problem without having anything to compare it with.

Fish on March 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM

I’d like to apply!! bet those jobs pay well…oh wait I haven’t CHEATED ON MY TAXES…

oh well…

right4life on March 11, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Second, if candidates are qualified, they probably want to have nothing to do with the Obama administration. They can see what Obama is doing and, when their stint is up, they don’t want EPIC ECONOMIC and BUSINESS FAILURE on their resumes.

BuckeyeSam on March 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t want to work in this administration under the best economy, much less the current one. Only person worse than Obama to work for: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. Now that would be hell on earth! LOL!

Susanboo on March 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM

I hope he fails.

bluelightbrigade on March 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Obama failed his math and calculus.

Produce your transcripts, fraud!

maverick muse on March 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Obama is postponing shedding light on his budget and his legislation. Any competent cabinet member would prove why Obama is crazy. Obama already has incompetents, but knows that only goes so far in the real world. There is no legitimate economist willing to take Obama’s fall for him, the prerequisite to accepting Obama’s Treasury positions.

maverick muse on March 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM

C’mon, Ed and Allah. Just one more entry into the left-hand column of posts and Frum’s annoying mug gets dropped from the front page.

You can do it!

Y-not on March 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM

[Connie on March 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM]

That’s a good point. It explains well his recent ongoing failure and incompetence.

Meanwhile, Dennis Kucinich was scheduled to hold hearings today on Treasury’s non-existent oversight of TARP recipients. Republicans may yet be grateful for Democratic grandstanding.

JM Hanes on March 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

You might want to hold off on that belief that until the committee publishes their conclusions. You might be surprised by what the Dems, who have the majority, pronounce.

[bryanmyrick on March 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM]

You say “most tech savvy” to ridicule because you infer it to mean the website should be up. That doesn’t mean Obama thinks it should be up.

Failure is a self-centered construct just as incompetence is. In reality, Obama fails when he doesn’t get to do what he wants and incompetence relates directly to the degree of success Obama has in actions to further his purposes.

People will eventually figure that out. So far I’d say Obama is pretty successful and very competent.

Dusty on March 11, 2009 at 4:26 PM

The normal vetting process for any Senate-confirmed nominee is extraordinarily long. It includes a virtual proctological exam of your entire life by the FBI, going all the way back to interviewing people you went to high school with. The FBI is overloaded at the beginning of every administration with background checks. Then the Senate Committee usually wants to do its own background check.
rockmom on March 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Isn’t that what the timeframe from 11/4/2008 to 1/20/2009 was for?

Chaz706 on March 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Thanks for doing that research. Any idea how this compares to earlier adminstrations?

If I remember correctly, Bush kept a lot of Clinton folks, because he wanted to “hit the ground running.” But of course, Bush was a stupid partisan babykiller, not the enlightened bringer of hopenchange.

hawksruleva on March 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM

I wonder if he’s having a hard time convincing smart people to join his team, because they can see the train headed for the crash.

Someone withdrew thier nomination last week, and said it wasn’t taxes. Anyone remember who it was, and why they pulled out?

hawksruleva on March 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I am the Great and Powerful Obama! Legs tingle at the very sound of my name. We don’t need a staff or a plan to fix this problem. Tim will just sit in my presence and absorbs some of my Obamagoodness, then everything will be fine. Hey, would I lie to you? *wink*

Onus on March 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Coordinated, planned, Economic FAIL.

marklmail on March 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Fair enough but several facors to consider.

Pay cut like Sanjay refused.

The vetting process.

Taxes.

Lobbying ban.

Just to be fair, I don’t think he is ignoring Treasury and with the staff they have they are not surrendering.

Tom Friedman finally wakes up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/11/opinion/11friedman.html?_r=1

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM

It’s encouraging to think he can’t find enough neomarxists to fill the rest of the positions.

Disturb the Universe on March 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM

One of the basic tasks of any executive is staffing.

But it’s so hard to find so many corrupt incompetent communist wannabees!

(I wish!)

Maquis on March 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM

And remember all the liberal pundits who said Obama shouldn’t have to wait until after the inauguration to move in to the White House, he was ready to go to work right now?

Looks like he was just kicking back after the election and not bothering to put together his list appointees, like most President-elects would have been doing.

It’s going to be a looooong four years.

Socratease on March 11, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Of course, there is the obligatory question?

Do you want to be fiscal cons believing in a smaller government or not?

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM

SINISTER, Coordinated, planned, Economic FAIL.

marklmail on March 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Fixed.

Key West Reader on March 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Good news.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Still not funny teach.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM

snicker :)

Disturb the Universe on March 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Good news.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Classic.

myrenovations on March 11, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I guess the other children enjoyed it teach.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:15 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM

It won’t be if you fall down and damage whatever’s left up there. Do the right thing and wear it.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Perhaps one day you will grow up and use adult humor.

I am cheering for ya.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:18 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:18 PM

You’re doing fine with the affectless non sequiturs.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Thanks teach but no need in trying too hard here.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Or attempting to compose a sentence in Standard English, apparently.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:22 PM

That too. Seems to be the norm here.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Why has Obama neglected Treasury?

Whaddya mean, Neglected Treasury? He has probably put more effort in screwing it up (even worse than it was before) than he has in any other function of the government.

I only WISH he was neglecting the Treasury. We would get out of this horrible economic situation much sooner if he keeps his agenda and his minions completely away from the Treasury.

LegendHasIt on March 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Even you must have noticed that all your responses are slightly more sophisticated variations on “Nuh-uh.”

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Nuh-uh.

Lets face it, most posts here are silly distractions based on the gop plan of a thousand cuts to bring down the dems.

The level of political discourse here can be summed up in two words.

Obama bad or dems bad.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Obama is handling the economy himself.

He’s the smartest man in the world you know.

Next month, health care.

notagool on March 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM

You’re living proof that it’s actually possible to degenerate from incoherency.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Of course, there is the obligatory question?

Do you want to be fiscal cons believing in a smaller government or not?

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I’d rather have the moderates believing in smaller governments, the fiscal cons trying to convince the moderates to go further and support a flat tax, and a flaming liberal defined as someone who tries to convince people we should re-instate capital gains and death taxes.

With the magic of Obama, we might just get there soon! Nothing makes fiscal conservatism’s point more powerfully than madcap liberalism run amok, ending in a circus of trillion dollar bailouts to fix the billion dollar bailouts after the trillion dollar pork spending bill didn’t do any good. We’re heading for deficits that couldn’t be paid off if you forcibly confiscated all the wealth of every American that makes over $75k per year, and it’s still not enough for liberals.

And that’s all before any of the costs really happen. This quarter is actually the high-water mark of Obamaism – when the news is filled with nothing but triumphant announcements of massive new initiatives, and local governors scrambling to spend their tasty stimulus money. When energy prices triple, the bond prices propping up the unsteady bulwark of deficit spending begin to collapse, and Obama has to give that first tearful press conference in which he bites his lip and tells us how he tried so very hard to give the middle class those tax cuts he promised, I imagine the political center of gravity might start moving a tad.

Doctor Zero on March 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM

The level of political discourse here can be summed up in two words.

Obama bad or dems bad.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Which begs the question…why do you come here?

Disturb the Universe on March 11, 2009 at 5:33 PM

I only WISH he was neglecting the Treasury. We would get out of this horrible economic situation much sooner if he keeps his agenda and his minions completely away from the Treasury.

Exactly. Geithner is completely incompetent; hell the entire Obama administration is incompetent. We should be thrilled Obama hasn’t nominated anybody else to the Treasury Department.

eyedoc on March 11, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Brilliant rebuttal. Is that the epitome of your debating skills?

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Careful, you might pop a strap.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Brilliant rebuttal. Is that the epitome of your debating skills?

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Doctor Zero on March 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM tried to debate with you and you ignored him.

Disturb the Universe on March 11, 2009 at 5:39 PM

The level of political discourse here can be summed up in two words.

Obama bad or dems bad.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:29 PM

(emphasis mine)

Sorry, I realize that you’re just trying to do the job you’re paid to do, but I have to call you on this.

I may only be a rube from the Midwest, but I count five words–not two.

BuckeyeSam on March 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM

All those billions being flushed through the Treasury. The filthy liar and Democrats don’t want an Inspector General or General Counsel. Those are oversight positions and the filth of this administration can plot the end of America much quicker if they don’t have to pretend to care about the rule of law or transparency of operations.

highhopes on March 11, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I may only be a rube from the Midwest, but I count five words–not two.

BuckeyeSam on March 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM

It’s that 57 state thing. Obama disciples don’t have any sense of reality.

highhopes on March 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Doctor Zero on March 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Now there is an intellectual rebuttal.

Pay attention teach.

I agree with the fiscal conservative and smaller government principles like most Americans but the rest of your long drivel is debatable. I think both Presidents looked at the costs of the bailouts compared to the costs of letting them fail and all the consequences of doing nothing. The choice was clear and brought gasps from the people in that meeting, so they acted and saved the collapse of the banks.

Now, your imagined future scenarios dwell in la la land and that is where you lost me. Please try to keep it brief and to the point my friend but much better than the so called resident comedian, Jim Treacher.

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM

You guys managed to coax full paragraphs out of him. Now he just needs to work on the logic and evidence and nitpicky stuff like that.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Last week he appointed or nominate? three folks…

But on the other hand, and I got to hand to you folks, you’ve handidly muddled this post in your own Obama bashing.

On one hand, when Obama appoints a person who seems to have tens of thousands of dollars in taxes, not even on actual income, still owed, you guy’s pounce like rabid dogs. Then when none of the positions are filled you pounce like measured politicians.

Stay classy hot air…

PresidenToor on March 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Just an opinion teach.

Now you try .

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Guess it was only temporary!

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Go ahead teach.

Dazzle me with your intellect.

I know you can do it or are you the one wearing the helmet?

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM
 
That’s why you can’t debate with a liberal. On the one hand, they ignore a valid argument as “drivel”, then on the other they get lost when given real-world scenarios.
 
If it’s more than two words – ‘George Bush bad. Obama good’ they just don’t get it. It’s like talking to Phil Hartman’s unfrozen caveman lawyer: “I’m just a caveman. Your world frightens and confuses me!”

Onus on March 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM

On one hand, when Obama appoints a person who seems to have tens of thousands of dollars in taxes, not even on actual income, still owed, you guy’s pounce like rabid dogs.

How silly, considering that the guy is only running the Treasury Department. Which is in charge of collecting taxes.

Then when none of the positions are filled you pounce like measured politicians.

Ahh, you’ve gotten to the heart of the matter: Geithner is in charge of the IRS even though he’s incompetent at best when it comes to his own taxes, so his slowness in assembling a staff is to be admired.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 6:05 PM

getalife on March 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM

You forgot to point out that you know I am, but you’re still uncertain as to what you are.

Jim Treacher on March 11, 2009 at 6:06 PM

I’m very, very worried about the Obama-depression, and the fact that Tim isn’t performing well at all at Treasury.

-Hail Obama-

JiangxiDad on March 11, 2009 at 6:11 PM

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