The Welcome Doormat

posted at 1:35 pm on March 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

HA reader Paul B sent over this interesting political cartoon from Gerald Scarfe at the Times of London.  In looking at it, I realized that this could have a number of widely-varying interpretations:

The way I initially interpreted it — with my American context — was that Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, had more or less rolled out a policy of allowing these three nations to walk all over us.  In fact, the first thing that came to mind was the Bill Ayers Boogie, using the American flag as a doormat and allowing these countries to dance all over it.  Her botched attempt at snarking the previous administration in her meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov makes that interpretation seem valid.

On the other hand, thinking what the ToL perspective might be, I concluded that they may have missed the “doormat” aspect of disrespecting the flag altogether.  Thinking in those terms, it would appear that Scarfe is criticizing Hillary and the Obama administration for offering the same diplomatic options to the three nations as Bush did, with just some sunnier spin.

I think Interpretation #1 is closer to the truth, but Interpretation #2 was closer to the intent.  What do you think?


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What do you think?

You are probably right.

lorien1973 on March 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM

#2. Plus, the Brits think generally think her butt is bigger than we do.

JiangxiDad on March 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM

#1= TRUTH.
#2= misguided European intent. And we care what they think because…?

Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM

It is like interpretating art. No one sees the same image.

I am not to sure what the “on our own terms of course” means… I agree with what you think, but something else is there.

upinak on March 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM

BTW- Hillary is ugly, but she doesn’t look anything like an ugly old Brit woman.
That caricature is hideous.

Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM

upinak on March 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM

I took it to mean the same as Ed. Walk all over us, but let us decide how you do it.

lorien1973 on March 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Looks to me the caricature of her face was drawn from Edvard Munch.

Which is about how I feel about this screechy dingbat being Secretary of State, along with Bammy in the White House.

We’d be better off going to a temp agency for both jobs and hiring whomever is sleeping on their couch that day.

NoDonkey on March 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Nationalism is a lost concept on Euros, hence they don’t “get” why we want to things that benefit us, or why placing our flag on the ground is an insult to this country.

That and many Euros are happily selling tech to those countries despite our objections or UN embargoes.

Neo on March 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I think that Hillary is bending over the wrong way. A 180 turn would fix things.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM

I took it to mean the same as Ed. Walk all over us, but let us decide how you do it.

lorien1973 on March 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

…and we can pretend they are laughing with us, not at us.

Laura in Maryland on March 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM

I thought both she and Obama went and kissed the ring of AIPAC? Did they not pay her enough?

popularpeoplesfront on March 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM

I think that Hillary is bending over the wrong way. A 180 turn would fix things.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM

She is on the Obama cabinet, she does not pay taxes.

WashJeff on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I think that Hillary is bending over the wrong way. A 180 turn would fix things.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM

I think the “bending over” part was deliberate. More of a BOHICA thing.

Laura in Maryland on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I’m going to go with Number One as well, Ed. Both the disrespect of the flag on the ground, as well as the invitation to walk on the flag, would take a pretty dimwitted lib to miss in creating their message.

More likely that the “on our terms of course” is sarcasm for the weakness of Obama’s iterations about preconditions.

MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Here’s a third interpretation, more in keeping with the Ultimate Muslim Wet Dream. The American Flag as prayer rug to be used to pray for the ultimate destruction of the U.S. Frankly, those on the Left are the Muslim world’s useful idiots. And Hillary couldn’t look more idiotic than she does in the cartoon.

EMD on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Wait there are some missing. How about the moderate Taliban. How about Cuba, Russia, and I am sure there are a few more out there.

I sure HOPE he keeps our Country safe.

Brat4life on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Her hairdo and buttcrack are symetrical. Very artistic.

BadgerHawk on March 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I took it to mean the same as Ed. Walk all over us, but let us decide how you do it.

lorien1973 on March 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

…and we can pretend they are laughing with us, not at us.

Laura in Maryland on March 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM

I took it like you both.. Ed’s interp, and Laura’s interp. But I am confused on the “on our own terms of course”. I don’t think the cartoonists really understands anything concerning the U.S.

upinak on March 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Yes.

At least here nobody can question your expertise, Ed. I think you’re fully equipped and sufficiently knowledgeable to interpret cartoons.

radiofreevillage on March 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM

radiofreevillage on March 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Lord knows he has to deal with enough of them here each day. cough*you*cough.

BadgerHawk on March 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I call it “Obama’s Mystic Crystal Revelations”…it’s been a long haul to peace and love, harmony and understanding, to a place where sympathy and trust abound tra la la…Aquarius! Aquarius! O, let the sunshine in – NOT!

Halli Casser-Jayne
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com/obamas_mystic_crystal_revelations.htm

The CJ Political Report on March 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Which one is her butt?

faraway on March 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM

“On our your terms of course”…

Fixed it.

bloghooligan on March 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

A point of clarification on my part, so as not to leave anything open to debate:

By “bending over the wrong way,” I meant that her broad butt should be facing those who would have their way with her … err, with America.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

This cartoon is screaming for a photoshop of Netanyahu strategically placed.

sherry on March 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM

I think that Hillary is bending over the wrong way. A 180 turn would fix things.

You really do want them to hate us, don’t you?

Warmonger.

NoDonkey on March 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM

This cartoon is screaming for a photoshop of Netanyahu strategically placed.

sherry on March 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Yes! Yes! That’s the spirit!

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Did Gerald Scarfe do the Pink Floyd ‘The Wall’ art or did he just imitate it?

rihar on March 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I interpret this as another reason for us all to start drinking heavily.

Crusty on March 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I think Interpretation #1 is closer to the truth, but Interpretation #2 was closer to the intent. What do you think?

Hmmm… This can be solved by a simple experiment: Drop a Union Jack in front of a ToL staffer and walk on it. If he decks you, then maybe 1 is also close to intnet.

apostic on March 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I interpret this as another reason for us all to start drinking heavily.

Crusty on March 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM

And smoking. I want no part of Soviet healthcare.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM

I don’t think the cartoonists really understands anything concerning the U.S.

upinak on March 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Most Europeans do not.
I have a friend who worked for a time near Wales & he said there are some people over there still referring to us as the “Colonies”.

Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Third interpretation, you’ll notice that Hillary! is smiling, as well as bent over.

GarandFan on March 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM

And smoking. I want no part of Soviet healthcare.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM

I thought Soviet healthcare was just two bullets in the chamber instead of one.

Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 2:02 PM

At least here nobody can question your expertise, Ed. I think you’re fully equipped and sufficiently knowledgeable to interpret cartoons.

radiofreevillage on March 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Something you can only aspire to achieve, radiofreevillageidiot.

Patrick S on March 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM

I thought Soviet healthcare was just two bullets in the chamber instead of one.

Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Excellent point. But, lest we forget; there was always a trip to the Gulag spas.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM

And smoking. I want no part of Soviet healthcare.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:59 PM

But if you smoke, you are paying for SCHIP.

myrenovations on March 11, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Shouldn’t Obama’s American Flag have 57 stars?

The caricature of Hillary is actually flattering when compared to the real thing. Her husband sees a blue suit and big ass and he runs for the humidor.

wildweasel on March 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM

One MBA course I took was taught by Dr. Mossholder, who was well known at Auburn for an in-class exercise he did every semester.

The class was divided into two teams, representing two continents. Each continent was given a number of loaded ICBMs and we had to meet with each other to discuss terms of peace. The winner of the “cold war” got an A. The loser got an F for the day.

Our team met and wrote up a very noble proposal. As soon as we sat down at the meeting table, we learned the other team had already launched half their weapons at us and had wiped out our ability to defend ourselves.

Sitting down with these idiots is a losing proposition when your country’s security isn’t as important to you as making friends.

Just saying…

AubieJon on March 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Forget about her butt. That isn’t the point.

The bottom of the picture says “Hillary rolls out the Carpet.” I think that is the significant part of the picture. “rolling out the red carpet” is a sign of welcoming someone who is important; someone of status. By them using the U.S. flag as the “red carpet” it is almost like a mocking of Hillary (representing the U.S. and Obama as her boss) and the stupidity of the idea of even speaking to Iran, Syria & Russia.

jcheney on March 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Neville Chamberlain Obama would never emulate
As he thinks that he thought too small and gave too little too late

MB4 on March 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Are they implying that she (we) plan to “pull the rug out from under them”? It doesn’t matter what they mean really, it is stupid no matter how you slice it.

Jamewah on March 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM

I think the fact that Obama is not standing beside Hillary, putting out this “carpet” is another attempt of the media to isolate him from this.
See, if he’s not in the picture, they can claim he had nothing to do with this, that it was Hillary’s idea to lay out the flag as a sort of red carpet. Obama’s above all that.

ToddonCapeCod on March 11, 2009 at 2:20 PM

The likeness of Hillary is dead-on.

I see her as standing in eastern Europe, bowing towards Mecca and leaving her ample posterior facing the country she is surrendering to our enemies.

fogw on March 11, 2009 at 2:20 PM

jcheney on March 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

I think most of us get it.

BrianA on March 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Which one is her butt?

faraway on March 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM

I believe they are interchangeable. Like tires, she probably has them rotated every 6 months.

MB4 on March 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM

jcheney on March 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

I think most of us get it.

BrianA on March 11, 2009 at 2:21 PM

No. No. I thought it was about her broad butt.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM

I interpret this as another reason for us all to start drinking heavily.

Crusty on March 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on March 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM

The (On our terms of course) seems out of place.

Walk all over us (on our terms)? Doesn’t make sense. The carpet is in the desert though, not sure why.

I have concluded it’s a pretty crappy cartoon on several levels.

#2 was definitely the intent.

reaganaut on March 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM

What do you think?

Hmmmm, let’s see – I’m still in shock from Hill’s bug eyed look and perfectly shaped in the air arse. No. 1 seems about right – OT, but if the fear of GWB didn’t make the ISR alliance squirm, the “thank you sir may I have another” diplomacy from Hillco will only make them yawn, and grin with glee.

volnation on March 11, 2009 at 2:26 PM

I shudder at the thought of the 180º view.

foxymike on March 11, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Did Gerald Scarfe do the Pink Floyd ‘The Wall’ art or did he just imitate it?

rihar on March 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Yeah, he did it. Now I have lost my appreciation for it.

ej_pez on March 11, 2009 at 2:31 PM

WHO NEEDS ENGLAND FOR A FRIEND WHEN WE CAN HAVE JERKS FOR FRIENDS THAT WANT TO KILL US GREAT GOING KING TELEPROMPTER.

wade underhile on March 11, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Annual Kiss Me I’m Imus, coming up March 17th St Patrick’s Day. Also the annual gift giving of the Bowl of Shamrocks from the Irish Representative to the President of the USA, let’s hope this goes over better then the visit from Gordon Brown and the 25 DVDs, and O’Bama’s Irish Roots.

Dr Evil on March 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Hillary bent over…ready and willing.

Hillary’s head is the same shape as her butt. Butt-Head.

LOTS of symbolism in this cartoon.

Guardian on March 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM

I think years of a sexless Vulcan-like liestyle have finally eroded. Pon Farr has begun. Hillary is clearly ready for mating to begin and assumed position. She is simply stating the sorts of fella’s she is welcoming. Like a craigslist ad, but on the american flag because – heck – what do leftists care about the flag?

chicagojedi on March 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Can we get a reading from the Rev. Sharpton?

Karl on March 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

It’s just too “cerebral” if you ask me.

(Y’all get an A++ if you can identify the movie reference.)

cackcon on March 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough.
- Mark Twain

MB4 on March 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM

That man was a thinker!

ladyingray on March 11, 2009 at 2:59 PM

I take it to mean that he’s not convinced that a policy of talking to thugs is going to get positive results, and that Hillary’s fooling herself with the “on our terms” justification: The flag represents American abasement and appeasement. She’s made an ass of herself on her first important diplomatic outing. Plus, the British are angry that they (as longstanding allies, rather than Brown as an individual, who is widely disliked) have been dissed so spectacularly, while playing kissy-kissy with the bad guys. It’s alright for the British to question whether there’s a Special Relationship, but to be told by the President’s fratboys that there isn’t is devastating, like being dumped.

Fortunata on March 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM

They got Hill’s giant butt portrayed accfurately at least

ObamatheMessiah on March 11, 2009 at 3:20 PM

3.8 more years of this crap left to go

pseudonominus on March 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Definitely #2. The “(on our terms of course)” gives it away.

Kafir on March 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM

the Brits think generally think her butt is bigger than we do.

I dunno — I think her butt is pretty darn big…

CMS2004 on March 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I dunno — I think her butt is pretty darn big…

CMS2004 on March 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Yes, I thought we had a solar eclipse but it was just Hillary bending over for the Russians.

Fortunata on March 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Groucho Marx to Margarent Dumont…

…. I can see you now, bending over a hot stove…
…….for some reason I can’t see the stove……

itsspideyman on March 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

The winner! (and I got your meaning the first time)

TugboatPhil on March 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Sometimes a bad cartoon is just a bad cartoon.

If a political cartoon sends three or four conflicting messages. It’s just visual gibberish — a colorful version of a speech by someone like Luis Farrakhan or Bjork.

Like all liberals, this artist satirizes nothing but his own lack of wit.

logis on March 11, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I think Interpretation #1 is closer to the truth, but Interpretation #2 was closer to the intent. What do you think?

Agree on both counts. And agree they saw the flag as a doormat not a flag (wierd)…

RD on March 11, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Scarfe is a pretty nasty leftie, so I would take that into account when looking at this.

EnglishMike on March 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM