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posted at 10:30 pm on March 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Do you think homosexuality is a choice?
Oh, no. I don’t think I’ve ever really subscribed to that view, that you can turn it on and off like a water tap. Um, you know, I think that there’s a whole lot that goes into the makeup of an individual that, uh, you just can’t simply say, oh, like, “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna stop being gay.” It’s like saying, “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna stop being black.”
So your feeling would be that people are born one way or another.
I mean, I think that’s the prevailing view at this point, and I know that there’s some out there who think that you can absolutely make that choice. And maybe some people have. I don’t know, I can’t say. Until we can give a definitive answer one way or the other, I think we should respect that.
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Explain that.
The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life, or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life. So, you know, I think the power of the argument of choice boils down to stating a case for one or the other.
Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?
Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice.
You do?
Yeah. Absolutely.
Are you saying you don’t want to overturn Roe v. Wade?
I think Roe v. Wade—as a legal matter, Roe v. Wade was a wrongly decided matter.
Okay, but if you overturn Roe v. Wade, how do women have the choice you just said they should have?
The states should make that choice. That’s what the choice is. The individual choice rests in the states. Let them decide.
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So, Rush Limbaugh—good or bad for you guys?
Rush is a friend. I like Rush. Rush is a bomb-thrower extraordinaire. And we need him. We need him because what he does is, he stimulates debate. And I know it drives a lot of folks on the left loony. But so does Al Franken for us. Okay? So don’t give me, “Rush is a bad guy, we need to offset him.” You already have. You got Al Franken, for goodness sakes.
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Quite, it’s worked so well the last 9-11 years…
the only issue is the Donks won’t play and the GOP will wither even more…
the willful blindness necessary for the Union boyz to lay in bed with the granola munching Gaiacult bespeaks to a lack of potential introspection…
sven10077 on March 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Anyone with even a miniscule understanding of simple biology would know that if a “homosexual gene” ever existed, it would have become extinct within the first few generations after it appeared.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM
heh, indeed…
*shhh* we evil right-wingers are supposed to be anti-science and not grasp these things.
sven10077 on March 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM
I would imagine this has been said somewhere in the previous 400+ comments but -
This guy is nothing more than the embodiment of why we have lost the last 2 elections.
He’s accepts the false templates of the MSM and their liberal heroes in DC.
He couldn’t lead a whore to bed.
jjshaka on March 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM
What in the wide, wide world of sports is Michael Steele thinking? He has been hanging around the Republican Party Elite so much, he thinks they represent the best and brightest. He has become part of the “Country Club Republicans” that Rush talks about. I guess this idiotic bunch never wants to win a National Election again.
kingsjester on March 12, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Amen brother, Amen.
And they were in on the redistribution of wealth via the 150 Billion dollar “stimulus checks” to the poor and middle class last year. RINOs.. . ugh.
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Now, about these comments from Steele… these are issues for the states to decide individually. As long as the RNC pushes for increasing federal power over the states we’ll continue losing these battles.
popularpeoplesfront on March 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Unfortunately, this is where the conservative party falls apart, and we will NEVER regain any power as long as these views are trumpeted by the hard right. They do need to be state issues, because for the fiscally conservative, socially moderate crowd they are dead bang deal breakers and hard right conservatives can hold their personal views as tightly as they want, but they’ll never be the majority- people just aren’t that “strict” in their views. I read through much of the postings here, and I don’t want to belong to a party this narrow minded!
anniekc on March 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Morons criticize before they bother reading the entire interview. Adolescents who demand godlike perfection from leaders are the hypocrites; the adolescents are not perfect themselves, and the loudest critics among them don’t even believe in perfection, aka “god”.
I am glad for the insight from his life that Michael Steele was gracious enough to share with the reader. I’ve gained a better appreciation of Steele, reading his brief bio and his spontaneity. Until reading this morning’s link, Steele’s life prior to Lt.Gov/Md. was a blank slate for me. It’s just a GQ interview, but Steele made some excellent points for those intelligent enough to do their reading assignment.
I don’t believe that Steele is a sucker punching bag for liberals. Not saying that liberals don’t take their shots; liberals are compulsive masochists. But Steele sees the punch coming. Steele’s strong enough to absorb what blows make contact and smart enough to divert the negative energy into the direction of his own purpose: conversion into positive effect.
“Bipartisanship”
For contextual setting, this goes on record:
On “Tolerance,” Republicans embrace diversity; Democrats exterminate the diverse. Ironic since the perception is the opposite.
Republicans sell themselves short on virtue. We need to appreciate what we honor in order to share our ideals.
Republicans OFFER conservatism. Democrats extinguish the Constitution. When put in proper context, minorities with the brains to embrace the only document that protects them, given that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, that population joins the Republican Party.
Steele’s interview’s underlining issue was EDUCATION. I hope he aligns that premise to his leadership efforts for party growth. The Republican Party must illuminate its platform, the Constitution, and spread that message to every population. Given the unity of purpose, to promote the preservation of our Constitutional Government, and application of principle, then tolerance requires going out of our way to see in others something of ourselves.
As far as SACRIFICE is concerned, conservatives have ALREADY relinquished sacrifices on behalf of bipartisanship efforts to liberals. On bipartisanship, Democrats are morally and politically indebted to Republicans as America is economically indebted to China.
Push has come to shove. As Steele notes, the bipartisan “winner takes all” poker game is over.
Republicans hold the Constitution of the United States.
Democrats hold Marx’s Communist Manifesto.
MINORITIES KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM
I don’t have any problems this interview at all other than Steele should be working to build the foundation for victory in the mid-terms versus giving interviews.
We need to be united by our desire for a smaller federal government role and pushing as much decision making to be as local as possible.
One of the problems of the GOP is that it is seen as synonymous with the religious right. We do need a big tent, there is room for disagreement on social issues. The key is finding the common elements upon which the members of the GOP can agree and that clearly set them apart from the Dems.
I would propose that we should be the party of more liberty, more personal responsibility, smaller government and a strict interpretation of the constitution. Abortion while reprehensible should be a state issue. Marriage should be a strictly religious ceremony and declaration of commitment, the states should only recognize civil unions period whether those unions are hetero or homo sexual. To paraphrase Jefferson, it does me no injury for my neighbor to be gay or straight.
Naturally I’m a member of the libertarian wing of the party and I guess to most you people who believe the things I stated above should be driven from the party and stoned. Speaking of stoned, I’m also strongly in support of ending the “war on drugs.”
crashland on March 12, 2009 at 9:15 AM
Although,an argument could be made that it is a mutation of a “normal” gene. Therefore, with the comming wave of designer babies, homosexuality could be eradicated in our life time.
/snark
todler on March 12, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Okay I can’t help it I am attracted to Tyra Banks. I was born that way. Just because I have an attraction to her does not mean I can act on it.
So follow the logic about being attracted to someone of the same gender.
Personally I believe most homosexuality is the result of easy sex for an over active sex drive.
Some homosexuality is just deviant behavior!
Some homosexuality is a mental disorder!
And some homosexuality is the result of constant brainwashing from pop culture!
Can’t prove any of this of course, its just what I know!
CinC on March 12, 2009 at 9:16 AM
As I have stated, most know me as as Hard Core Dittohead Conservaitive as we have at HA, think that abortion needs to be overturned as a Federal Law, returned to States for votes of the populace. That can win elections, be clear and concice, we are not outlawing abortions, we are giving local controls to the people, the right to choose, turn their montra on them… “Right to Choose” in your State, with zero Federal funding, no taxpayer monies… All good?
Gay Marriage is another place we should, as Conservatives, trust the American people, this is a States Rights issue. Californication just outlawed same-sex marriage, if they can, any State can and most would… This can be a WIN if we remove this as a stumbling block… Clear message is key.
Mark Garnett on March 12, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Perhaps there something for us to learn from this debacle. If I remember correctly, we had a poll here at HA before the election for RNC Chairman and at least half of the people here were very excited about Steele. Most of his supporters could not even then make a comprehensive case based on his qualifications and demonstrated track record. Just like Obama, and we lacked the curiosity and were as easily fooled as the country was by Obama. This really surprises me coming from conservatives.
neuquenguy on March 12, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Constitution & States’ Rights!
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:21 AM
“I won…”-Ogabe
Steele thinks there is an ounce of negotiation in the tonnes of Donk excess….
good luck squeezing it out Mike….
sven10077 on March 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Unless, of course, the designers utilize it as the means to control population growth. Given the designers’ politics, the latter is more likely.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM
No offense Mark but it will NEVER be an issue “for the people”….Roe V Wade taught the donks that if they just sue enough they’ll get their way when one set of their judges find an invisible ink amendment in the questioned document….
witness the idiotic fight on the “legality” of Prop 8 even being put to the question in direct contravention of California precedent and Constitutional language….
sven10077 on March 12, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Well, not necessarily. If it’s a recessive allele (or a combination of recessive alleles) it’s possible it could survive in a population for a long time.
To me, the irony of the homosexuality-is-genetic argument is that the same people who make that argument ALSO make, or have made, the argument that gender-based behavioral differences are socially determined and NOT biologically determined. Women are more nurturing because a patriarchal society tells them to be nurturing, not because there’s a “hard-wired” basis for it. Yet when it comes to sexual preference, OMG, it MUST MUST MUST be genetic.
Also, those proponents have a hard time getting around the historical evidence, which is that homosexuality asserts itself mostly in societies where normal relationships between men and women are not possible. In Ancient Greece and in modern-day Afghanistan et al., for example, extreme misogyny resulted in men and women spending very little time together. Hence, the Ancient Greeks and modern-day Pashtuns suddenly started practicing homosexuality. Prison populations are notorious for homosexuality. And so on.
Be all of that as it may, I’m beginning to think we made a horrible, horrible mistake picking Steele.
Outlander on March 12, 2009 at 9:27 AM
But they aren’t states’ issues, and won’t likely ever be. The power of the national gov’t in DC is greater than ever. Their control over traditional state’s issues is growing, what with activist federal judges, mandates from Washington, a corrupt media, etc. So I don’t think people tend to see states’ rights as a viable solution, even if you are correct that it could and should be. So when I read your comment, I feel though it’s not intended to be, it becomes a recipe for destruction of conservative values, at least in our politics. I can’t help but think that your comment leads to political dissolution, not a renewal of states’ rights.
JiangxiDad on March 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM
umm.. Multiple generations can carry a gene without it showing any effect. My kids and I both carry a recessive gene for SMA but we are not affected with it. There’s a 25% chance it will show up in my grandkids IF my kids mate with someone who also carries the gene. Otherwise the gene will continue being passed from generation to generation without any effect on the carrier.
Read up on recessive allele..
popularpeoplesfront on March 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM
This implosion of the Republican party gets more and more amazing every day.
The economy is on life support and your party wants to talk about gay people and abortion? So awesome!
Dave Rywall on March 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Agreed. I think he wanted this “job” too badly. I am utterly puzzled why we cannot get articulate representatives of Conservative principles in political positions. We constantly play into to defensive position as the liberal playbook is brought out time and time again to demonize their opponents. Liberal arguments are so vacuous and inconsistent and so easily defeated.
enoughalready on March 12, 2009 at 9:32 AM
as does this notion that ONLY some of the Bill of Rights is worth safeguarding…
nothing tickles my fancy like when Churchgoing folks decry the 2d amendment. or the pro-pot stoner libertarians slag on the true meaning of the 1st amednment speeration clause, or when gun rights guys bag on the Church people….
our side is splintering despite the potential victory of people who think the BoR is words just words….
sven10077 on March 12, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Hey Drywall how’d the halibut?
sven10077 on March 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM
What’s the word on recent RNC fundraising?
I have to believe they’ve tanked.
BuckeyeSam on March 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Illogical. You say the Republicans are charging off in the wrong direction, when they need to be focusing on how to save the economy for the sake of the nation.
Then you say it’s awesome.
So you’d like the Republicans to fail in helping the nation.
Awesome too Dave.
JiangxiDad on March 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Our Constitutional Government has established Congressional process. The Republicans in Congress have reached the point of unity, NO MORE SACRIFICE, no more political lending allowed. Embrace our own principles. Repudiate excess as Democratic extravagance. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you’ll get any help; you’ll only foot the bill for extravagance benefiting the hoarding Democrat Party Leadership.
You, citizen, can not endure without America.
The Democrats have already sold you, citizen, into slavery.
Reject the sleaze deal.
Refuse to enable your legislator.
Repudiate your legislator.
PUT IT IN DOLLARS AND CENTS AND HAMMER IT HOME!
Accept Democrat loan shark legislation at your own peril.
You lose X to get Y that does not amount to the Z you needed.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM
How do homosexuals pass genes? What is the rate of procreation among homosexuals? They typically don’t pass along genes. I’ll read up on recessive alleles, but until someone can show me that a significant enough number of homosexuals are procreating, I will not agree that this deviancy is genetic.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Wow…equating Rush to Al Franken. Wow. Surprised he didn’t take it a step further and equate Rush to Olby.
jediwebdude on March 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM
JiangxiDad on March 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Why would he want America to succeed? He is a Liberal Canadian. He wants America to have all of Canada’s problems like government-run health care and dissention between areas of the country (french secessionists). He, like Mr. President, would be happy to see America devolve (yes, I said devolve) into a just another European Socialist Nation.
kingsjester on March 12, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Illogical. You say the Republicans are charging off in the wrong direction, when they need to be focusing on how to save the economy for the sake of the nation.
Then you say it’s awesome.
So you’d like the Republicans to fail in helping the nation.
Awesome too Dave.
JiangxiDad on March 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM
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There is so much awesome in this post I don’t know where to begin.
Dave Rywall on March 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM
The narcissistic Democrat Party can’t stop bloviating and stealing.
Stark reality, distractions fail.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM
I agree we need to be the “big tent” party. That is a “big tent” full of conservatives.
I always get a chuckle when the liberals say conservatives are not inclusive or are narrow minded . Please!
There is not one iota of disagreement or divergence of ideas with the liberals. Its like they get their instructions at night while they sleep. Wake up and go about their day as zombies for the liberal cause.
The Republican Party is the only one of the two that allows dissention, to our own demise actually.
Ask your self would the Dems ever put up with turn coats like the “open minded” Specter, Snowe, Collin?
Don’t bet the babies milk on it.
CinC on March 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Then you should probably get back to work, before your mom shuts down your half of the septic tank you’re sharing with her.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM
The narcissistic Democrat Party can’t stop bloviating and stealing.
Stark reality, distractions fail.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM
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Your post sounds like a bad poem from open mike night at a coffee shop.
Which party is in a dorky fight with a DJ?
Which party’s chairman takes one foot out of his mouth just so he can jam the other foot in there?
Keep bloviating.
Dave Rywall on March 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Science reflects 10% in the general population.
The general population procreates 10% with the gene.
It is not a matter of exterminating the gene.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Steele needs to go
brogers on March 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM
When juvenile mentality pervades, recognize your own inadequacy and do your homework.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Science also has found that the average life expectancy of male homosexuals is 45 years. I’d be interested to know where you got those stats.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 9:59 AM
B-but he’s black!
pseudonominus on March 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Demise is a matter of choice given APPLICATIONS.
EVERYONE who wants meaning in life needs the Constitution.
So long as the Republican Party protects and projects the Constitution as core values, the nation experiences rebirth like the Phoenix Bird.
The Republican Party is the party of the American citizen. E pluribus unum.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM
AubieJon, try your own google search.
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 10:31 AM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/6961/What-Percentage-Population-Gay.aspx
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Words. Just Words
maverick muse on March 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM
So, you trust Gallup in their election and opinion polling enough to trust them on this sort of poll?
I don’t need to read junk science reports that are skewed to reflect the desired outcomes. Thanks anyway.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM
A tri-fecta…Homosexuality, Abortion, and claiming Franken and Rush are on the same level.
When Steele goes out, he is going out in flames…you can’t get much bigger then that.
He only missed one, stating Obama is not really black…it would have been a grand-slam. (mixing metaphors of horse racing and baseball, won’t get me a Pulitzer).
right2bright on March 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Then you should probably get back to work, before your mom shuts down your half of the septic tank you’re sharing with her.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM
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Your pointless contribution is noted. Again.
Dave Rywall on March 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM
“Anyone with even a miniscule understanding of simple biology would know that if a “homosexual gene” ever existed, it would have become extinct within the first few generations after it appeared.”
If it expressed during the early part of human society, then no, it wouldn’t.
No welfare, remember? Your kids were your social safety net.
Also, the wealthy during that time were typically aristocrats who needed heirs to perpetuate their line. (cf. Edward II of England)
Besides, being “gay” doesn’t mean that you -can’t- have heterosexual sex, it just means that you don’t like doing it.
ebrown2 on March 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM
P.S.
“Besides, being “gay” doesn’t mean that you -can’t- have heterosexual sex”
…as many straight married women have found out, to their sorrow and surprise, about their hubbies.
ebrown2 on March 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I think it is Obama and his little group of merry men who meet to focus on Rush, a talk show host.
Sit back and imagine, the most powerful man in the world, worried about a talk show host, so he puts together a band of merry men to attack this sinister plot…meanwhile, his economic planners can’t fill positions, his Treasurer can’t find employees, he can’t find time to acknowledge our closest and longest ally, his Sec. of State is making a buffoon of herself, he is signing the most important bill of our lives in a closet (without anyone debating it openly in congress)…before you stick a “foot in the mouth” you have to be able to stand on your own two feet…and Obama is a child learning to walk, in a world that in in a marathon.
Obama is a child, in a crib, in a world of adults. The crib is surrounded by teleprompters so he won’t “crawl out”…and everyone can look in and say “he is so cute”.
But like most baby’s, he can only coo, smile, look cute, and poop every where he goes. And we have to clean the diapers that he is leaving behind every where…and he must be eating a lot because he is full of…
right2bright on March 12, 2009 at 10:56 AM
homosexuality has to do with the estrogen in soy milk, for the sake of the males in this country breast feed your children and stop giving them this soy crap
Tremmy on March 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Keep repeating over and over and over and over and over:
1 BILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR!!! RINO’s, LIBERAL’s and The Messiah are stealing from your family, your children…
1 BILLION A FRICKING HOUR!!! And yet, no moral outrage?
Mark Garnett on March 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM
We have Rush and they got Franken. We got the better of that deal. Steele is so afraid to say what he really believes. He might offend someone. Does he have any principles to stand on? Take me to our leader, oh,no.
Kissmygrits on March 12, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Your pointless existence is noted. Infinitely.
AubieJon on March 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM
We got Steele and they got Howard Dean. We didn’t get the bad end of that deal either.
The reason people PERCEIVE Steele as a jackass is because he’s prostating himself for liberal media attention. For a conservative politician, that’s a lifetime career that takes years of intensive soundbite management training to even begin to get right.
I’m sure Howard Dean probably gave interviews to magazines like GQ and Men’s Figure Skating Weekly too, but that was a perfectly safe move for an uuber-lib — the guy doesn’t even have to take his meds first; he can gibber whatever the Hell he wants, and they’ll clean it up for him. But for a conservative politician, that’s a full time job as a minefield test dummy.
Steele should just skip about 90% of these interviews, stick to giving a few carefully-worded public announcements and – hey, here’s an idea – maybe start getting some actual WORK done for a change.
logis on March 12, 2009 at 11:43 AM
now Aunty is confused.
We say we want to be the “big tent” republican party, which I think means we need to attract more members. Then we say we want to return to our “conservative roots”. Then we put Elrushbo front and center to swing the big hammer, and all he does is offend those in the “middle” that we need to attract, which shrinks our base even more. Is there someone out there with conservative fiscal values, who can still attract some of the “middle” back to the “right”? And please don’t say Sarah, too much baggage with her, unfortunately(thanks Levi, good job).
greataunty on March 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
The Steele lightning rod
strikesgets struck again (..and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again..)Quetzal on March 12, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Steele lacks Obama’s charisma, and he can’t pull off the “everything to everyone” routine. You can’t out-Dem the Dems, who came to power by destroying the GOP brand. Obama choosing to continue these efforts is telling. He must distract and produce an enemy while he works his socialist magic. Steele should be opposing him, not trying to compete with him. Even Obama can’t get away with his distraction and crowd-pleasing rhetoric forever.
I was leery of Michael Steele, because he seemed to think alienating the conservative base was worth winning over moderates. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, because it seemed worthwhile to invite more minorities into the party by having a spokesman who could sell conservative principles to every voter regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, income, education, etc.Steele was supposed to be able to communicate effectively and *also be tech savvy and have grassroots strategies.*
We’re seeing none of that. He keeps screwing up. Sateele must resign.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM
I am unhappy with Bristol and Levi’s decision to put off marriage, but it’s none of my business, so I’ll leave it alone. That’s why children have no business making babies and starting families. I thought Bristol was aware of these challenges, but it means she will have to grow up fast. I wish her the best, and I certainly don’t see this as any indication of Sarah Palin’s ability to govern Alaska. It doesn’t hurt her chances for 2012, either.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 2:09 PM
O Creator of Worlds….how about we talk about the two basic irreconcilable dichotomies in the conservative movement–
1. You cannot be the party of freedom and individual liberty when you deny freedom to minority citizens of the Republic. Federalism is just localized mob rule. Citizens have rights whether they live in appalachia or not.
2. The conservative movement needs elites to generate and articulate its themes. You cannot simultaneously reject intellectuals and academics and use them to promote your meme complexes.
Also…tokenism is an Epic Fail anymore.
Just like Palin failed to attract the XX vote, Steele cannot attract the black/brown vote.
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Excellent point: the pro-slavery wing of the Republican party is a very, very bad thing.
But you’re overlooking the one tiny detail that liberals always leave out of their analyses: absolutely nothing that you believe about how the world works actually exists.
logis on March 12, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Right.
Brown vs Board, Loving vs Virginia.
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM
I mean…..seriously, wtf.
You guys made Steele RNC chair to attract moderates and independents…..then when he tries to do that, you keelhaul him under the SS Conservative Titanic.
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM
The federal government cannot determine when life begins. Obama admitted this was above his pay grade. According to biologists and conservatives alike, life begins when an egg is fertilized by a sperm, the moment of conception. The federal government does not have the authority to subsidize abortion or even potentially legitimize murder. Therefore, per the the 10th amendment, it is an issue for the states. It’s not mob rule; It’s the letter of the law.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Brown v. Board of Education ruled that the segregation and humiliation of an entire race could no longer be the official law of the land. It would be a 14th amendment violation. Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, while stating publicly that we must all “respect” Judicial Branch rulings, strongly disagreed with the ruling. Privately, he wondered, “What’s wrong with ’separate but equal’?
This was the popular thinking of the Dixiecrats, who until Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, were the predominant sentiment of the Democratic party who were behind Jim Crowe laws.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Steele should be articulating the Republican party platform in a way that these unaffiliated or swing voters can understand. He should also be developing a strategy to consolidate a grassroots effort and upgrade the GOP’s technological operations. The party volunteer efforts have not been shored up since 2000 under Karl Rove.
Instead, Steele is drying up RNC donations by antagonizing the base and making a fool of himself by underestimating the intelligence of undecideds. They at least recognize talking points.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 2:51 PM
They certainly know when they’re being pandered to.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 2:51 PM
I can’t feel – let alone argue with – your sentiment. But of course that’s not what was “ruled” in the case. That was the uuber-liberal judgment that informally wrote a Forced Bussing Amendment into the Constitution.
I don’t know how many people have actually read that case, but the first time I did I just shook my head all the way through. It was complete gibberish.
Then I re-read it, undertaking the liberal assumption that black people are congenitally inferior to white people. And all of a sudden – within that bizarre frame of reference – every word in it made absolutely perfect sense.
We all make fun of liberals for being “idiots,” “fools,” dumbasses,” etc.. And of course we are always right to do so. But the fact is that some of the very smartest among them are almost as intelligent as a normal person is. Sadly though, even those relatively brilliant moonbats can’t ever come up with an idea that makes any damned sense. Even when they don’t appear to suffer from gross neurological disfunction — their heads are just screwed on ass-backwards.
logis on March 12, 2009 at 3:11 PM
According to Whitehouse.gove, that is what was ruled. Even if you disagree, you will have to adapt to the new truth. This is ho the establishment talks about Brown v. Board.
chunderroad on March 12, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Soon maybe we all will. But not quite yet.
logis on March 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Brown vs Board was specifically targeted to keep state fundage from the deep south separate-but-not-equal “segregation academies”.
Loving vs Virginia struck down wildly popular local anti-miscegenation laws.
Shall we play again?
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Alas, the republican party platform is incompatible with being articulated in a fashion that appeals to independents, swing voters and moderates.
So what do you do now?
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 3:39 PM
The “I’m a bigger libtard slogan-shouter game?”
Dude, we conceded that title to you after your first post. What do you want, an award ceremony?
logis on March 12, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Tell that to Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan who won election or reelection by huge margins articulating the GOP platform.
To say that we don’t appeal to indies, swing voters and moderates is silly!
We ran the dream candidate of those groups, John McCain, and he lost.
The only reason he didn’t lose by much more was because Sarah Palin brought in as much of the Conservative base as she could being the VP candidate.
We should never sell out our core principles to appeal to those in the squishy middle. Never.
60% of the American people describe themselves as “conservative” year after year.
Our victory plan is to go after this conservative bloc as keenly as possible in every election.
Jenfidel on March 12, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Jenfidel.
That was over 20 years ago.
This is your conservative bloc now.
You no longer appeal to youth, college-educated, black, brown, yellow, rich, poor….or in fact, any bloc except the elderly….and they are dying off.
“Centerright nation” is a faery tale from books written 20 years ago by white christianists.
Lissen to Ta-Nehisi represent.
Allah u will dig this–
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM
So….what you’re saying is that if we promise to pay black people’s water bill, power bill and rent, they’ll vote for us?
I’m pretty sure vote buying is supposed to be illegal.
JadeNYU on March 12, 2009 at 5:08 PM
The Democrats went from running candidates from the far left-wing of the Democrat Party to running an ultra left-wing radical – and look where it got them. If you took every Presidential election since Kennedy, you’d see that the most radical liberal Democrats, and the most conservative Republicans always do better than moderates of their own parties.
The handful of semi-smart leftists in America are trying to convince us that if we run somebody just a teeny bit more ‘centrist’ then McCain was, we’ll do better next time. The complete moonbat libtards like this guy are hoping we’ll form a new party more Communist than the Maoists and more Socialist than the Nazis – so he can finally quit paying lip service to that poser Obama.
logis on March 12, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Forced bussing. Land of the free. Something doesn’t seem right, here.
OldEnglish on March 12, 2009 at 6:51 PM
YOU’RE FIRED!!!!
omnipotent on March 12, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Nah, I’m pretty sure TNC is jus’ sayin’ you frontin’ when you say this is a center right nation.
;)
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Now that is one bigassed lie.
strangelet on March 12, 2009 at 8:17 PM
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