Boston Globe: Romney’s the only adult left standing among the 2012 hopefuls
posted at 8:17 pm on March 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
But — but what about Huck?
Seriously, though, it is starting to feel that way.
For a while, it looked like Mitt Romney would become more a figure of ridicule than promise. Stiff, square, and allegedly two-faced, the former Massachusetts governor was a triple-punchline target of late-night comics.
But now, with a more statesmanlike bearing and some measured criticisms of the Obama administration, Romney suddenly seems like the only adult left standing among the 2012 Republican presidential hopefuls…
[W]hile Limbaugh and some other CPAC speakers were serving up cable-show vitriol, Romney made clear that he wished President Obama well and hoped for the best for the country. He then offered a more measured – and therefore more believable – critique of the new administration.
“Parts of the stimulus will, in fact, do some good,” he averred. “But too much of the bill was shortsighted and wasteful…
He also broke with many in his party to endorse the bank bailout, but repeated his criticism of both Presidents Bush and Obama for using bailout funds to aid the auto industry.
He won the CPAC straw poll, of course, and as I write this he leads the field on InTrade with 24 percent, followed by Jindal at 19 and Palin at 15, neither of whom I expect will run. He’ll have an advantage in the early primaries in 2012, too: Huck will win Iowa thanks to evangelicals, but Romney should take New Hampshire and Michigan easily now that there’s no McCain-type around to run to his left. The question is what happens in South Carolina, where Huck nearly knocked off McCain thanks to Christian voters. If he beats Romney there, it’s anyone’s race. And while in theory Mitt should have an easy time with him in blue-state primaries like New York, economic circumstances may be such that the rich guy is a hard sell compared to the folksy populist, regardless of which one of them has more financial expertise. Maybe Sanford will get in and end up acting as a stalking horse for Mitt, stealing SC away from Huck and splitting enough social-con votes with him elsewhere to give Romney a clear path. Romney/Sanford 2012? I could live with it, and Sanford would take that deal in a heartbeat. He’ll only be 52 and landing on the ticket would give him the national exposure he’ll need to have any chance against Jindal or Palin in 2016.
Exit question: What about Newt? He’s adult-ish, no? If he jumps in, do he and Romney split the centrists and technocrats, leaving Huck as the last man standing?
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fify!!! lol!
ladyhawke53 on March 11, 2009 at 6:10 AM
Gotta head out to work in a moment, so don’t have time to go back and read the story, but…..
Wasn’t there supposed to be a follow up story about who won the poll?
Yeah, you are right, they probably wish they wouldn’t have started that poll now, hurts when you get egg on your face
Palin/whoever in 2012
husker3000 on March 11, 2009 at 6:41 AM
I am gonna read through the comments later today, but I have to write this: It is very uncomfortable to me when the MSM singles out a Republican candidate/ticket with no POTUS elections YET. Or, EVAH!
I totally support Sarah Palin and her decision to enter the hellhole again, or not. She is one of the very few (and I admit Romney too), that could turn this country around in a SNAP. Having said that, I want Sarah to lay low and keep going like this until next year’s primaries (if we are not all dead yet, or in Thunderdome/sarc).
Over the top religious ticket, even with Huckabee? Yep, and that’s what the country needs: a nice and warm Jesus juice.
ProudPalinFan on March 11, 2009 at 7:34 AM
As a religious conservative who’s not to warm to Romney, I’ll admit he’s probably the only chance for victory in 2012. If y’all want a contentious and nasty “crusader” election with Palin or Huck, count me out–it’ll only guarantee that the GOP will be looking forward to 2016.
How ’bout Romney comes out in 2010 heading up the Republican Revolution in Congress recycling the line, “Hey, it’s the economy stupid!” He’ll have to work on his social bona fides as time goes on, but let’s position him as a Reaganite small-government conservative first.
cackcon on March 11, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Even as hard core, far right Conservative that I am, (I think I’m the hardest dittohead and ultra-Con here at HA since ManlyRash left), I could and would support a Romney and Sanford ticket in 2012 IF, and I said IF, Palin and Jindal do not run…
Jindal / Palin in 2012 would be my dream ticket to turn America back to the people, the workers, the producers…
or
Romney / Sanford to restore our economy and bring financial reason to Washington…
But our main goal should be winning Governorships in NY and NJ and eleswhere along with real Conservatives emerging for the 2010 mid-terms…
I am supporting Steve Lonogan both finacialy and as a volunteer here in NJ and am asking for your support also!
We also need to get behind Rudy for NY… Hey, it’s a start!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Romney will be the choice of the RINO DOP (Dead Old Party) and Michael Steele’s RNC! And he will lose! He is a RINO in sheep’s clothing! He is a big government guy who also was for abortion before he was against it! He speaks from both sides of his mouth on most issues depending on the time and circumstances! He has no core beliefs but is a politician! His only desire is to get elected! He is not a leader!
Have fun! He’s not for this conservative!
sabbott on March 11, 2009 at 8:25 AM
As far as I’m concerned both parties are corrupt to the core and Mitt is just another RINO. I’ll never forget the smirk smile he made during last campaign when Ron Paul was talking about the state of our economy which he was telling the truth! I was so disgusted at Mitt at that point. I am from now on going to vote for The Libertarian Party. As for Alan Keyes, he’s a very smart man and wish he was our first African-American President instead of the clown we have now!!!
corvettelady on March 11, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Isn’t Christie polling ahead of Corzine and more likely than Lonegan to be the GOP nominee?
dedalus on March 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM
I’m sticking by my earlier prediction:
The Messiah will have been such an EPIC FAILURE and his Administration rated the worst in modern American history, the MSM will be dumping him, the kool-aid will have turned bitter, terror attacks will have accured, un-employment will be in the 12 to 15% range with stagtfaltion that…
ANYONE but Obama will be on everyone’s lips!!!
The far left radicals have and will continue to run America into the ground, tax, cap and trade, blunder after blunder that noone will consider voting for them… They WILL lose the House and the Senate by 2012 and the PotUS will be a Conservative… Probably Jindal and Palin ticket…
Socialists will have shot themselves, killed the moderat Democrat party and sent centerists flocking into the SMALL tent of Conservatives…
All this will happen! The Messiah will not win again…
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Yes, but he is NOT a Conservative like Lonogan, nor does he have already outlined plans, a tax plan, a school plan to put local controls and tax money back into local schools, reduction of taxes and a plan to limit the Communist State of New Jersey from running what few businesses we have left away… He has a great site with tons of ready to go plans and programs designed to return NJ to the black and away from Liberals… He’s far and away MY choice…
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 8:40 AM
People like you are what is wrong with politics. Christian morons who think Huckbigots brand of theocracy is what this country needs.
You can take your religious zealotry and stick it up your ass. I no more care what you do as a so-called “Christian” than I do what the gays do in the privacy of their own homes. Keep it to yourself douche bag.
csdeven on March 11, 2009 at 8:41 AM
People like you will assure that The Messiah has 4 more years to destroy America… Folks need to unite behind whomever the Republicans select… Look, I hope it’s Jindal or Palin or Sanford or even Cantor, but to go off to a protest vote is folly… And it cost us the mess we are in!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Palin will be a non-factor. Not enough women like her. Romney will be subtly undermined by the media for the Mormon thing. Huck will emerge as the guy. I personally like Romney HEADS AND SHOULDERS abover anyone else, but Huckabee connects with more people. That’s what it’ll come down to.
marklmail on March 11, 2009 at 8:43 AM
The country can elect a black man president and come close to electing Hillary or Lieberman without their gender or religion being an issue, but Romney’s religion will sink him?
If the economy is still weak, the country will probably be looking for someone who is more competent than Obama. Mitt is one of the candidates who can make that case.
dedalus on March 11, 2009 at 8:49 AM
I’m not running for President, so it really doesn’t matter how impressive my career has been. 2 years experience as Governor was not enough experience and the McCain camp knew that, but they hoped people would just forget that McCain was running as the Experienced one. It made him look like a hypocrite.
Speedwagon82 on March 11, 2009 at 8:50 AM
Has anyone else noticed that when the religious bigots get involved with these threads that they quickly devolve into pro-huckabigot arguments?
csdeven on March 11, 2009 at 8:50 AM
That is what happened in the primaries. The so-called “Christians” (who were in reality vile bigots) decided that a guys religious faith was too important to ignore.
If Romney can get past the religious bigots in the primaries, then he has a decent chance of doing well against a Marxist clown who has run the country toward socialism for the last 4 years.
csdeven on March 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM
The question is what happens in South Carolina, where Huck nearly knocked off McCain thanks to Christian voters.
This entire nation is paying, in part, due to their ridiculous and unfounded bigotry. Let us hope those self-professed Christians are learning a lesson. What’s worse in the White House, A Mormon or a Marxist?
Virginia Shanahan on March 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Hope it doesn’t hinge on his religion. It would be unfortunate if Mitt is the best candidate against Obama to lose him over the church he attends. Odd if it proved to be a bigger handicap for him than race or gender.
dedalus on March 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Here we go again…
DanaSmiles on March 11, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Compared to Obama, he’s great. So is a pile of rocks.
I listened to his CPAC speech. Democrat light on health care, global warming and I know he is on gay marriage.
Not interested this far out.
Palin is my pick as of today. We have 3 years before things get really serious, though. Anything can happen.
JellyToast on March 11, 2009 at 9:01 AM
After Obama throroughly destroys our economy, it will take someone of Mitt’s experience to restore it.
Disturb the Universe on March 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM
I don’t have a problem with libertarians, as long as they don’t attack other parties for the way they voted. It’s kind of crazy to talk about uniting behind a candidate before the primaries even start. I hope the GOP nominates someone I trust and who sticks to the party platform more or less. Isn’t that how most people vote?
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 9:10 AM
I keep hearing about how Mitt’s supposed to fix the economy, and I would love to hear specifics. When I’ve heard him before, I’ve not been impressed, and he chose to focus on the War on Terror rather than the economy last time around.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 9:12 AM
like anyone cares about the boston globe-a liberal rag…
NRA Lifer on March 11, 2009 at 9:14 AM
To respond to Poptech earlier, here is a breakdown of the
courtesy adherents.com
‘Ya missed it by that much.
kingsjester on March 11, 2009 at 9:15 AM
I guess it is still not safe to come back out.
Power To The People!!
Dire Straits on March 11, 2009 at 9:19 AM
I think what the general consensus is, that people realize Mitt’s experience and tremendous aptitude with business and finance. I always think its extremely beneficial if our President understands the concept of capitalism, and also has been a success in the business sector. Mitt does. The only other person I can think of that’s on the same level as Mitt is Forbes, but he doesn’t make a good candidate.
Then, you also have to consider the fact that America has a hang-up on looks. These days, our presidents apparently have to be smooth talkers, good looking, and charming. Mitt is genuinely all of these.
And this time around, our financial crisis WILL be in the forefront… that is, unless we are hit with another major terrorist attack. Then the priority would be terrorism as the number one issue again.
ErinF on March 11, 2009 at 9:20 AM
I never claimed Romney was a conservative, I don’t claim Sarah is one either. But please don’t play the sarcasm card and insult people’s intelligence…liars do that.
Conservative Voice on March 10, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Conservative voice- You don’t win your argument by be-littling others and calling others names either.
adams6kids on March 10, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I will say it again. You don’t argue for conservative or even Republican principles. You don’t really say much of anything, but attack other people. Yet you go on about how Conservative your Voice must be.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 9:24 AM
It’s very, very hard for us in the grass roots to fight for these idiots in the Republican Party when they own 40% of the pork in the latest money theft from the taxpayers…
Until the Party, and I mean ALL fo them, fight back and remove pork and vote to stop this radical spending, the ACORN money, the bailouts and handouts, they have NO ROOM TO COMPLAIN!!! And we have noone to support…
The pork must stop, Republicans must stop putting their hands in my pants anlong side of the far left radicals!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM
On either one, the Conservatives will have the huge advantage… Obama IS a one term nightmare of EPIC FAIL!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM
The article explicitly said “adult”. I don’t see that fitting Huckabee at all.
{^_^}
herself on March 11, 2009 at 9:39 AM
FIFY
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 9:45 AM
ONLY if amnesty doesn’t pass. If they push amnesty through, the American demographic will be forever shifted to the left. Then, we’ll be a 3rd world country, little hussein will end presidential term limits, and we’ll be stuck with “king hussein” indefinitely. We’ll have an 80% populus living off government welfare programs and breeding like rats, and the rest of us will be slaves to that government. Reparations.
Sounds like fun, huh?
(The turd in the White House is counting on amnesty to pass.)
ErinF on March 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Mitt’s a great guy, great family guy, even bought his kids an RV to tour the country…instead of defending it.
But he just doesn’t have the “it” factor…but maybe after the current “it” is such a failure, people will look deeper…hopefully not to deep, and find out Mitt ran away, in full retreat, from being a conservative when questioned by Teddy.
right2bright on March 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Here goes the MSM attempting to define the debate again. Remember, the MSM strategically “chose” John McCain for us last time. Look where that got us. It’s their aim to pick a person as “the” candidate they know will lose. Notice, they don’t pick on Huck???
marklmail on March 11, 2009 at 10:18 AM
At this point, Romney/Palin 2012 for me.
Saving whats left of America requires that
and no less than that. After America realizes
that Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer,
and the rest of those Fools kept no promises and turned the
Dollar into the same value as Confederate Money…
That can happen.
old trooper2 on March 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Romney/Gindal 2012. Palin needs to stay gov of Alaska for another term.
Borislav on March 11, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Borislav: Why? Please explain.
old trooper2 on March 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I WANT ERIC CANTOR!
HE KNOWS HOW TO GET UNDER “THE BALLERINA`S” AND “CHUCK U.SCREWMER`S” SKIN.
It`s time for the conservatives to take the gloves off. We need a level field of play and Cantor is on to their childish game and knows how to fight back. I got sick and tired of Bush eating the progressives $hit.
Let`s roll, Eric!
Jayrae on March 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Mitt’s got my vote……..
adamsmith on March 11, 2009 at 10:47 AM
First comment says it all. Let’s just let the media pick the GOP candidate so they can tear him or her apart when the Presidential campaign starts – kinda like they did in 2008 with McCain. It’ll save us all a lot of time and effort when we should be working to pay for all the moochers.
Mr_Magoo on March 11, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Mitt looks like a prez………….and he’s smart, honest, sincere, lots of relevant experience………BUT he has problems too: he pays his taxes; he doesn’t sell crack; he never hung with guys with bombs, and he has zero community organizational skills…………my advice…..call Bill Ayers in for a consult.
Cinday Blackburn on March 11, 2009 at 10:56 AM
So, AP. I guess when you want to beef up the comment count you just post a “who should be the GOP choice in 2012″ thread? Very clever. 8 pages of infighting comments 50 days into the new administration. That about says it all.
Mr_Magoo on March 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM
For sure. You can always count on the obsessive-compulsive hate-Palin crowd to be drawn to the discussion like ants to a picnic.
littleguy on March 11, 2009 at 11:07 AM
It’s March 1977.
Obama is Jimmy Carter.
Sarah Palin is Bob Dole.
Biden is Walter Mondale.
John McCain is Gerald Ford.
Mitt Romney is Ronald Reagan.
playblu on March 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
As of right now, the Boston Globe is right. (What do they way about stopped clocks?) Romney IS the only adult in the current crop of 2012 hopefuls.
But 2012 is a long way off.
Marking Time on March 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM
If the Mayans and Nostradamus were right about the world ending in 2012 – it won’t matter who our candidate is.
katiejane on March 11, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Not waiting on that…
But that might explain why Obama’s spending like there’s no tomorrow.
Oink on March 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
They compare Romney to Limbaugh, but, hellooooo, Limbaugh is not a politician. I like Romney compared to any Democrat, living or dead, but I’d like to see what happens in an actual campaign.
littleguy on March 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Mark Garnett
Mark, I may not have your eloquence, but I take a back seat to nobody in conservatism or “dittoheadedness”.
SKYFOX on March 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
ROFL, point taken. I was making an annology. But yes, there are alot of real Conservatives here that understand the stakes… So no slight was intended…
:)
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Current discussions are determining the Republican platform.
I read that Steele’s first assignment was to re-organize the GOP primary election system.
NEW GOP PRIMARY SYSTEM
RNC WEBSITE POSTS:
PARTY PLATFORM, goals and specific plan;
CANDIDATES’ RECORDS on the given platform;
GOP primaries closed to members only;
SCHEDULE 2-3 GOP national primary dates.
Regardless of your locale, every registered GOP voter gets to vote each of the simultaneous national primary ballots in every state. Subsequent date(s) ballot determines the top result following the process of elimination in simultaneous national votes.
my $.02
maverick muse on March 11, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Born yesterday?
maverick muse on March 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
READ THIS:
Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has come up with a vivid new way to express his contention that the nation is spending way too much money it doesn’t have.
McConnell includes the tweaks in his opening remarks on the Senate floor on the 51st day that President Obama has been in office.
“In just 50 days, Congress has voted to spend about $1.2 trillion between the Stimulus and the Omnibus,” McConnell says. “To put that in perspective, that’s about $24 billion a day, or about $1 billion an hour—most of it borrowed. There’s simply no question: government spending has spun out of control.”
The math: 50 days times 24 hours equals 1,200 hours. 1,200 times 1 billion equals 1.2 trillion (a thousand billions is a trillion).
Even as he proposes a huge increase in the reach of government, the president continued to try to show his concern about spending by making an announcement Wednesday about earmark reform.
And yet, still America, it’s people, roll over and take it right in the arse… We ARE sheeple, we have lost our will to fight, here is our very survival, the survival of America and we watch from the sidelines, ranting, like me.
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Many would rather have Romney than Obama any day.
But if indeed Romney would not have beat Obama this last round, best that McCain took the fall.
maverick muse on March 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Well said.
I judge a man by the kind of family he has & personal life he has lived.
And Romney is a good man in all of those avenues.
I don’t think he’s a RINO at all. Most solutions to any problem come from somewhere in the middle with some honest give & take.
You can’t force stuff all the time.
I bet his religion will force him out of the race again bcs the prejudice against religion out there is much stronger than the prejudice for race.
There will be more Mormon jokes out there making fun of practices they consider holy.
When I voted for Mitt in the primary, I had to listen to all the Mormon vitriol in the office of my HS work-place, none of them evidently realizing I was one myself.
And of course I get the obligatory “you just voted for him because he’s a Mormon”.
So what to say?
I voted for him bcs of who he is & most of what he’s done.
And I don’t agree with every thing he’s done, but it’s a damn site better than anyone else has done in years.
He’s smart, articulate, knows his $hit, & is an honest hard-working guy.
I believe, from what I’ve seen, his motivations are not due to ego but due to service of his country.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Given the wheel’s invention, control the spin.
maverick muse on March 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Is your tinfoil hat custom made?
:)
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
1 BILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR!!!
Please keep repeating that to YOUR children tonight…
When that ask what that is, you say:
“It’s the debt that I am saddling you with for your entire life.”
Yes, 1 BILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR FOLKS!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Especially those who act as if they were born yesterday.
littleguy on March 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM
AllahPundit? Huck? Romney? Didn’t we already go through this? Are you still trying to sell this silly old, tired, snake oil stuff?
Dude, you need to go back to the polls when people were trying to claim Rush is the leader of the GOP. I already spelled this out. Rush just says what we believe and is the ONLY ONE out on any type of media airwave saying it loud and proud. That’s why he’s loved. BUT, grass roots conservatives KNOW there is no GOP leader. As much as you like to send out the RINO brigade time and time again and espouse to all of us that they’re are only choice, it’s only 2 months into this deal. A LOT, and I mean a LOT, can happen in 2 to 4 years. RNC members that are RINO types have a scary way of opening their mouths and inserting their feet.
Sultry Beauty on March 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM
I just tell my HS students that they are working to support all the old people on SS now & on Medicare, plus those who get on it in the future before them, plus paying the interest every month on the deficit.
So essentially, bcs of the population disparity, they are actually making a negative income every month for the most part.
They get really pi$$ed when they think about it.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I’d rather wear a tinfoil hat than to have a clear conscience that I have nothing to do to what is gonna happen. Regardless if you “believe or not” that 2012 will be the downfall of this country.
I would go as far as several states calling for separation.
Here is an article posted on Drudge on last year (and what is happening now Russia saw it first).
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashrur.htm
RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET
A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.
Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: “The dollar is not secured by anything. The country’s foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse.”
The paper said Panarin’s dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year’s events.
When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: “It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world’s financial regulator.”
When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: “Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia.”
Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: “A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles.”
He also cited the “vulnerable political setup”, “lack of unified national laws”, and “divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions.”
He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts – the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.
He even suggested that “we could claim Alaska – it was only granted on lease, after all.” Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.
Developing…
ProudPalinFan on March 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
note: Remember we went over this article due to last paragraph.
ProudPalinFan on March 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Romney is a liberal squish. He is yet another RINO who looks not to conquer the socialists and their agenda, but compromise with them.
I admire his mad political skills— not enough to ever cast a vote for him.
Valiant on March 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM
I’m not really a fatalist, so while I keep things like this in the back of my mind, I choose to take the optimist’s road & hope for the best, while fighting the fights I choose are the most worthy & winnable at a given time.
Sometimes losing a battle does not mean losing a war.
Sometimes it does-hence the picking of the fight.
As far as AK-they try to take it back, Russia’s going to get their a$$ kicked, pure & simple.
Might sometimes makes right.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I am no more thrilled with Romney than I was about McCain. McCain lost the election and Romney couldn’t even win the nomination. So what’s all the hubbub about Romney? The man is out of the picture.
Maxx on March 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Sometimes you gotta make a socialist, communist, etc think they are winning.
Sometimes to get something done, you gotta make a deal with the devil.
How insinuating the deal is depends upon the savvy of the deal-maker.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Keep repeating $1 BILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR!
and
$400,000.oo for each JOB reported to be created by Porkulous!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Hmm. They would do far better to bail me outta debt in exchange for a ‘job’.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM
So was Reagan at one time.
Romney is smart & knows how to get things done. And he’s not a career politician.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM
My County Republican Party had an informal presidential straw poll at their quarterly meeting last night.
Result: Palin got 92%, Romney 4%, Ron Paul 4%
This same county voted for Romney with over 60% in the GOP primary last fall, McCain & Huckabee got approximately 15% each and Ron Paul got 10%.
All the enthusiam for Romney & Huckabee is gone; it is all about Sarah Palin here now.
Norwegian on March 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Your an idiot. Did you never learn judging everyone in broad strokes identifies the judge as the true bigot. I am a Christian conservative who voted for Mitt first, then McCain/Palin when my choice failed to attain the nomination. Bigots come in all shapes and forms, you need to do a bit of self-assessment. Get real and get over it.
usarmyretired on March 11, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Romney’s cool, but come on, enough with the Ivy Leaguers! Who sets this up where our only choices are these elitist punks from the Ivy league. Just look at Megan McCain, that’s what you get from those institutions. No soul man, no soul.
We need regular folks that understand the simplicity of the Constitution.
True_King on March 11, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Translated: “He’s the only frontrunner who’s not one of those Christianist nuts.”
Glenside on March 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM
And then in another month it’ll be different.
American people are so fickle I’ve almost lost all hope for them.
I’m glad you’re not a religious bigot. I don’t think he was painting people in such ‘broad strokes’.
As an LDS person I have experienced this ‘bigotry’ against my religion quite prolifically from W to E coast.
Nobody cares what religion you are til things get important.
I don’t think Romney’s problems in the last election were due solely to his being a Mormon. But I do believe they played a large factor with the S-SE US.
I have never been well received by Baptists at ALL.
And the Catholics & Lutherans in my community treat us well to our faces, but there is an strong undercurrent of bigotry behind that facade.
In the end, I am betting Romney will be persecuted in another prez race for being LDS.
I will be curious to see how people handle it again if there’s a next time.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Pop likes losers, King. He proudly claims to have voted for Perot and Bob Barr. If he were to vote for Romney, it would surely be the kiss of death for him.
littleguy on March 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Actually, I like the tickets of Newt and Palin and Huck and Sanford. The newt palin ticket would be a reformation, Huck Sanford would appeal to grounded and stable government.
That is if there is a country left after 4 years of pork spending.
workingforpigs on March 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM
I suppose to some people the word “conservative” and the word “baptist” have the same definition.
To everyone else Romney qualifies as more conservative than most.
But he will be 64 in 2012… And who really can predict the needs of the country by then. It’s hard to think economics won’t be important. But in 2008, on verge of world wide financial collapse economics took a back seat to everything and we got what we got.
By the way Romney’s specialty was taking companies losing money and turning them into money makers. Sounds like the exact skill set needed for America right now.
Bigotry is so strong and so hidden even from one’s self–that even the person most talented, and qualified will probably be–once again–passed over.
petunia on March 11, 2009 at 12:37 PM
To Allahpundit and Ed Morrissey:
1) I dare you to post a separate thread disclosing the results of the over 9000 respondents to your HA poll:
Who is the leader of the Republican Party?–that 38% of these respondents believe currently that Sarah Palin is the leader of the Republican Party and that 28% believe that Rush Limbaugh is!
2)Secondly to Allahpundit: just hot off the presses from an e-mail from SarahPAC: “Governor Palin will soon be traveling the country and working to support leaders who share this (her) vision.”
Allahpundit, that is what the leader of the Republican party should be doing.
Allahpundit:”Jindal and Palin…I do not expect to run.”
From indications so far as to the latter I think your information may be a little off.
technopeasant on March 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Here we go again, letting the media choose our candidates. Remember what happened last time? It’s too soon. We are stuck with Obama. He hasn’t tanked enough yet. We aren’t through with him and the Democrats yet. They are failing ever second they breathe.
BetseyRoss on March 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM
1 BILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR!
Mark Garnett on March 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM
One leads from the North, the other knows enough to take the South.
sethstorm on March 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM
You’re right that Romney is the only “adult” standing.
The problem with democracy is that we get the politicians we deserve. How could an informed, honest, responsible populace possibly have elected Obama?!!
enerwaste on March 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM
It’s amazing how well hidden it really is in some people/places.
Living & growing up all over the US, I have found it astonishing how bigoted people still are on religion.
I honestly have never been concerned over any religion except for the one that masquerades as Islam. And so by default I guess I’m bigoted, too.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Sorry. I just couldn’t help myself.
Badger40 on March 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM
It’s a long time to 2012. It may be premature to speculate who the best candidate is. Has Mitt even mentioned running again? JMO, but we should speculate who might be best suited to regain prominence in the 2010 midterms. I don’t even know how many positions are going to be available in 2010, but it would seem logical to regain some momentum then and build on it.
Mitt was my candidate of choice this last campaign. By the time Indiana gets around to holding a primary it’s almost a moot point to even vote (this year was the exception) but Mitt had already dropped out, I still cast my vote for him. I felt he was the best candidate.
Huckabee is a likeable person but I didn’t feel he was the best choice for President. In both cases their religious affiliations had no bearing on my choices. I prefer that my candidate of choice be a person of faith, because that’s an important trait for me, but it’s more important that they hold conservative ideals, be fiscally intelligent and have an open mind to policies that would benefit all of us.
ladyhawke53 on March 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM
No joke. Boston Globe says please, please don’t throw me in that briar patch….
Venusian Visitor on March 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM
While Romney would be far from my ideal candidate, I’d be a lot happier with him rather than Huck.
You all can dismiss Sarah all you want, but the bottom line is that right now she has a base that loves her, and we will support her against all comers. If she decides to run in 2012 is yet to be seen, but a lot can and will change between now and the next election so who knows.
I will say however, that when it’s all said and done and the 2012 primary’s are over, I hope we have a candidate that we can all get behind and hopefully take this country back
husker3000 on March 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM
The field’s wide open. It’s way early. Remember that.
Me? Right now I like Palin but I’m not ruling out Romney. If the economy still blows chunks in ’12, then Mitt will be a formidable candidate, probably the best chance for unseating Obama.
Mitt needs to step up on the Second Amendment. He’s been a squish on the issue in the past. I believe he has supported bans on modern self-loading defensive rifles (so-called “assault weapons”). Some say that he had to compromise to get elected at all in anti-gun Massachusetts.
Fine. People can change. But Romney needs to have a public change of heart on the issue. He should stake out specific, pro-gun positions, not just vague “I support our Second Amendment heritage” slogans (even Obama says stuff like that). The place to start is by saying that, as President, Romney will veto any attempted AWB renewal.
Given the right pro-gun assurance, I can get on board and support Romney in ’12 if that’s how it plays out. Again, I think he’d campaign well against Obama and provide competent governance if elected.
Right now it’s only 2009. Way early.
P.M. on March 11, 2009 at 1:08 PM
I’m looking forward to April when Sarah, Mitt and Huck have to disclose their PAC totals. If Sarah’s PAC trounces Mitt’s and Huck’s, then she will be in the best position for 2012. She’ll be able to fund candidates to get elected in 2010, campaign for them, and earn their support and endorsements for 2012. She’ll also catch the interest of the elite in the GOP, who for now, are completely shunning her. If she proves she can raise a boatload of funds through her PAC, the elites have to begrudgingly accept her as a strong contender to their guy, Mitt.
This has the potential to turn out to be our version of Hillary and Obama 2008; Hillary had the party elite’s backing until Obama proved to be a fund-raising powerhouse. The elite then slowly began endorsing Obama.
Sarah has the same ability to wrestle the party’s backing away from Mitt to her. They may not like her “credentials”, but they will want their share of the gravy train.
As for the person who posted that women don’t like her, the CNN poll proved otherwise. The gender gap is what helped her edge out Huckabee for the number one spot; Republican women preferred her over Huck and Mitt by a 10% gap; I think this helps her tremendously in the primaries.
And finally, Glenn Beck was on with Bill O’Reilly this past Friday and threw his support behind Palin for 2012. He says he’s an Independent who hates both parties and could care less what happens to the GOP, but the only person he could see himself voting for in 2012 is Sarah Palin. Now, if she can just get Rush Limbaugh to throw his support her way, she’ll be tough to beat in the primaries.
yogi41 on March 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM
In 2008, Romney was able to run as a conservative candidate due to an obvious vacuum of truly conservative candidates. That probably won’t be the case in 2012 since there is a higher possibility of truly conservative candidates such as Palin, Jindal, Sanford and others taking the conservative mantle. Romney cannot compete with these candidates as the conservative choice. So he will need to reinvent himself again (flip-flop) back to a centrist in the McCain, Guiliani mold fighting it out with Huck a la 2008. However if he does this, he risks the flip-flop label which would immediately tank his chances. In other words, the gig appears to be up for Romney.
adams6kids on March 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Mitt is a viable candidate, but I don’t see him as a true front-runner at this stage of the game. He will have some obstacles in the primaries (unless we’re lucky and someone puts a steak in you-know-who’s heart… can fat
preacherstv hosts be stopped that way or just vampires?), so it will be important to show “electability” early on. I think most people voting in a general election would have no problem voting for a Mormon, fortunately. Mitt just needs to show that he’s a strong candidate early in the primaries.I still think Mitt needs to find a high-profile gig that is public-service oriented (even if it’s in the private sector) to highlight how his executive experience helps regular people… maybe something like the Red Cross or perhaps start his own charitable foundation. Health services should be well and truly screwed up by the time Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are done messing with it, so if that’s one of his area’s of acumen, I’d have the foundation work in that field.
Y-not on March 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM
As a supporter of Fred Thompson (precisely because of his ideas), I respectfully disagree.
If we had a time machine, and the ability to go back to the pre-primary season, the nomination fight I would want to see would have been Thompson/Palin versus Romney/Jindal.
VekTor on March 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM
I need a new introduction to Palin. I was behind her from the start. But mostly because I was against Obama. Palin in 2008 has some of the same problems that I had against Obama… and so does Lousianna Governer, can’t think of his name, but I liked him on TV lately. Anyway, one of my big problems with Obama was a lack of experience and record.
Palin and what’s his name have sort of the same blank areas on their resume. I hope they both spend lots of time running their states and getting that experience that Obama so obiviously lacks.
In some ways if what’s-his-name improves life in Lousianna that is more impressive than Alaska. Alaska’s residents are sort of self-appointed to live the Alaska lifestyle and be happy about it.
But Lousianna is just sad sometimes. All they really can think of to make money is drunken street parties…what a thing to base an economy on.
petunia on March 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Everyone had better get behind him, NO INFIGHTING… I am so fed up with that…
Mitt would be a GREAT leader, he was our choice here in Colorado.. Don’t let the Dem’s vote in our primaries..
reshas1 on March 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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