Boston Globe: Romney’s the only adult left standing among the 2012 hopefuls
posted at 8:17 pm on March 10, 2009 by Allahpundit
But — but what about Huck?
Seriously, though, it is starting to feel that way.
For a while, it looked like Mitt Romney would become more a figure of ridicule than promise. Stiff, square, and allegedly two-faced, the former Massachusetts governor was a triple-punchline target of late-night comics.
But now, with a more statesmanlike bearing and some measured criticisms of the Obama administration, Romney suddenly seems like the only adult left standing among the 2012 Republican presidential hopefuls…
[W]hile Limbaugh and some other CPAC speakers were serving up cable-show vitriol, Romney made clear that he wished President Obama well and hoped for the best for the country. He then offered a more measured – and therefore more believable – critique of the new administration.
“Parts of the stimulus will, in fact, do some good,” he averred. “But too much of the bill was shortsighted and wasteful…
He also broke with many in his party to endorse the bank bailout, but repeated his criticism of both Presidents Bush and Obama for using bailout funds to aid the auto industry.
He won the CPAC straw poll, of course, and as I write this he leads the field on InTrade with 24 percent, followed by Jindal at 19 and Palin at 15, neither of whom I expect will run. He’ll have an advantage in the early primaries in 2012, too: Huck will win Iowa thanks to evangelicals, but Romney should take New Hampshire and Michigan easily now that there’s no McCain-type around to run to his left. The question is what happens in South Carolina, where Huck nearly knocked off McCain thanks to Christian voters. If he beats Romney there, it’s anyone’s race. And while in theory Mitt should have an easy time with him in blue-state primaries like New York, economic circumstances may be such that the rich guy is a hard sell compared to the folksy populist, regardless of which one of them has more financial expertise. Maybe Sanford will get in and end up acting as a stalking horse for Mitt, stealing SC away from Huck and splitting enough social-con votes with him elsewhere to give Romney a clear path. Romney/Sanford 2012? I could live with it, and Sanford would take that deal in a heartbeat. He’ll only be 52 and landing on the ticket would give him the national exposure he’ll need to have any chance against Jindal or Palin in 2016.
Exit question: What about Newt? He’s adult-ish, no? If he jumps in, do he and Romney split the centrists and technocrats, leaving Huck as the last man standing?
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I’m not banned from Newsbusters, I post there everyday thought the Palintologists do try.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:18 AM
And let’s see, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, hell, for that matter, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, JOHN MCCAIN. Yeah, they really lived up to the hype and worship.
Obama can’t find his way out of a paperbag.
At least Ronald Reagan had his country’s best interest at heart.
HornetSting on March 11, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Pretty simple. To paraphrase P. J. O’Rourke, “so you want government health care; the government also got into the mortgage business. How’d that work out?” But you see, that’s not going to work against ANY disingenuous “Boy, are we going to give you lots of goodies!” approach. Things like tort reform make more sense, but just don’t have the ring.
ddrintn on March 11, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Con or Hawthorne posted something to me about Noah so it reminded me of this … that’s all… hope it adds some levity… sometimes we all get a little over heated…
CCRWM on March 11, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Again:
the Political and cultural landscape will change so much in the next year by “WE THE PEOPLE” that none of the regular people and politicians and talking heads you keep posting on here will have no meaning. No meaning.
You shall see.
There is a new face of America forming that no one has seen.
amend2 on March 11, 2009 at 12:21 AM
“[F]or an Alaskan”? What does that mean? She did okay for a snowbilly freak living in that Little House on the Tundra state up there with all the Eskimos?
You reveal yourself in that little “for an Alaskan” aside.
BTW, what the hell have you done with your life? I sure hope it is as impressive as hers.
ramrocks on March 11, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Lemme guess. You either weren’t alive or were a toddler during the 80′s and the only thing you know about Reagan is from reading revisionist history. To suggest he was not what he really was is to defy logic and reason. (And yes, I read the inane link you provided)
Fed45 on March 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM
No I exposed the truth about the hype – go read the link. His fiscal record was not what people believed it to be. I am no liberal but a libertarian conservative.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Two questions:
Do you consider anything I’ve said here to be “gushing”?
What about the opposite of “gushing”, such as the anti-Palin jihad we’ve witnessed here tonight? Isn’t that even more repulsive?
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Hey, if you want to support Palin go right ahead. I have nothing against her. I like her. Huck’s my guy though just as long as he continues living and governing according to God and the Bible. See, I won’t smear or attack you for supporting Palin as some people smear me. You got your show to run and I’ve got mine.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM
They said Adult.
(Late to the party, probably not the first to note that, so consider it seconded or thirded or somesuch!)
Maquis on March 11, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Speedwagon82 and poptech only show up on threads about Palin or the 2012 election. They’re on someone’s payroll. There was another shelbycares working for Defenders of Wildlife. There’s too many to mention but precisely because SP has the strongest chances to be the next nominee.
This article is from the Boston Globe. Of course, it’s favorable to Romney. While Allah likes the traffic, and he hates Sarah Palin. Of course, no one’s even sure he is a Republican; he’s an atheist and that distracts from whether he’s a liberal.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:25 AM
EyeSurgeon on March 11, 2009 at 12:12 AM
exactly, though reading what I wrote I can see why there was confusion…He [ Jesus Christ ] was a Jew telling a story about a Samaritan [ who the Jews hated ] to be the hero. Hence you can’t judge a man by what church they go to or what office in that church they hold. You can only judge their acts.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 12:25 AM
That note at the end wasn’t really directed at you, but others who are obvious.
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Oh yeah. Conservative Voice, Atlanta Voter and Proud Rino are fakes.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Do you realize what a narcissistic, pompous, vain, pretentious, San Francisco drop you are?
Holy Christ on a cracker, you’re putting Obama to shame the way you look down your nose at the rest of the world.
Yes, your flatulence does stink, and no, you’re nowhere near as intelligent as you believe yourself to be. Those who are have no need to be so derisive and condescending to others. Your ego could be put to better use relieving the Hoover Dam of some of its responsibilities. Your self-serving corpulence has been noted. Might I suggest you do a scientific experiment to see how long you can hold your swollen-yet-vacant head underwater before you drown, and then hold it under an extra 20 minutes?
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I’ve not seen anyone refute stories of seeing Elvis working at convenience stores, what’s your point?
Fed45 on March 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM
A Bill Maher libertarian.
ZJPolitical on March 11, 2009 at 12:28 AM
If Mitt gets in he needs to hold back till the last day he can jump in because anybody in after him is a spoiler.
We’ll have to wait and see if Obama loses his sheen enough that voters get over their prejudices.
I am very very sick of ralfing my way through an election cycle only to have the worst possible result become the worst possible President.
Huck is a McCain Democrat, he belongs on the left side of the isle but the left has gone radical.
Speakup on March 11, 2009 at 12:30 AM
The 3 C’s:
Courage
Conservatism
Charisma
Sapwolf on March 11, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Oh, that’s good. That’s good! Tell me what you want me to see, uh? You really should be ashamed of yourself. You support a wonderful lady like Sarah Palin, but tarnish her good name by running down a decent man like Mike Huckabee. Go away. You are wasting my time.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Piper Palin has more political knowledge than Poptart, who lives in a
trailershack on the beachjoey24007 on March 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM
davek70 on March 11, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Careful, you’re going to upset apacalyps (sp?)
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 12:32 AM
By the way the Hot Air poll, although archived is still going strong. Now 38% of respondents say Sarah Palin is the leader of the Republican party.
Where are you Allahpundit? Don’t you wish this tidbit would go away?
technopeasant on March 11, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Oh yeah. Conservative Voice, Atlanta Voter and Proud Rino are fakes.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM
And how am I a fake?
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Naw, she loves me. Don’t you, snookums?
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Always, always, always.
The script–
1. The Pledge: I’m a conservative/I’m a Christian/I’m a conservative Christian
2. The Turn: My heart is with you guys, really… but I have these concerns…
3. The Prestige: I hear all these great things about Obama and/or did you hear this horrible stuff about Palin?
And of course the simple whitebread, just-plain-folks psuedonym.
Honestly, FoxNews, are you going to do anything with this? All you have to do is scan your own comment threads (O’Reilly has them, doesn’t he?) and look for “different” posters with different names but the same IPs posting comments that follow this three-point script.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:33 AM
I think a lot of us need to take a deep breath and stop slinging arrows. There are several “truths” that we all need to wrap our minds around:
There is no “perfect” candidate, conservative or otherwise. If you look, you will find flaws in everybody.
There is no “one truth” in our political world. Each of us has a somewhat different spin on our beliefs. Each of us feels they are well considered and correct.
There is no chance to defeat the Democrats in the next election if we are going to spend our time sniping at each other instead of working together.
There are a lot of things that we need to do in order to be prepared for the mid-term elections. Obama is going to hand us an opportunity with his incompetence. It is very important that we put ourselves in a position “to turn the corner” and start moving away from socialist solutions.
So if we look at all of these things, we may be much better advised to move forward by getting our internal logistics fixed. We need to take advantage of the web because we are never going to get a fair shake on television. Sites like this help. But we need a real honest explanation of what being a conservative means. The current conservative commentators on the web are too busy tossing bombs and fishing for attention. Their ability to educate becomes compromised because of their polarizing nature.
Hence, nobody is getting our message out.
Hawthorne on March 11, 2009 at 12:33 AM
+100
You don’t catch more flies with sulfuric acid.
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I saw it in theaters.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:38 AM
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:33 AM
dude, before you put me in as someone who is a seminar poster, you might want to read all of my posts…you can climb over to newsbusters as well, though I haven’t posted there in a long time.
Also show me where I am anti-Palin? That I have “concerns” or ever praised Obama?
Your credibility stinks to high heaven
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 12:38 AM
At this rate, though, whoever the Rep nominee is in 2012 will have my support.
ddrintn on March 11, 2009 at 12:38 AM
I usually try to make my points without attacking someone else. It is the way I have been taught.
technopeasant on March 11, 2009 at 12:38 AM
Vulgarity lowers the quality of conversation. Tit for tat. Now you know what it feels like when somebody tells you what you can and cannot say.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 12:39 AM
You make excellent points, and I agree that the bombthrowing by people running for office will not endear them to the general population. However, if you think Ronald Reagan was never one to let an opponent have it with both barrels, then you don’t know Ronald Reagan. At an open air campaign in Beford-Stuvesant he yelled at one woman to shut up, “I can’t do a damn thing for you if I’m not elected!” He also told a fellow debater during one televised debate to shut up, “I paid for this microphone Mr. so and so!”
Reagan was a tough SOB when the situation called for it (see the firing of the Air Traffic Controllers), and the people loved him for it. Americans love the person who will stand up for what’s right. Romney is a what I call a political accommodater. He moves with the winds of political sirens, nothing more. He is an empty suit. I wouldn’t vote for the guy to remove my trash.
Fellow conservatives, I don’t see anyone out there right now who can lead us out of this morass of infighting and policy disagreements. Michael Steele has been a disaster so far, and Newt has outlasted his shelf life. Palin and Jindal are unelectable on the national level, and Huckabee is clueless. Limbaugh and Coulter are fighting the good fight on one level, but they couldn’t be elected dogcatcher on the national stage. I really like Fred Thompson, but he acted like the whole process was below him.
We are just going to have to wait and see who emerges out of the mess we have right now.
Joe Pyne on March 11, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Uh huh. I’m better known in these parts than you are.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Bill Maher is a pot-head libertarian. They only call themselves libertarian to get pot legalized.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:43 AM
…for actual racist comments that needed to be deleted.
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Joe Pyne on March 11, 2009 at 12:40 AM
I agree that Reagan was a fighter, called the Soviets the Evil Empire…that takes guts.
Romney fought against Rudy, McCain, Huck, by simply pointing out their record…and many took it personally and have been mad at him since. Romney is a fighter, though not a strong one. Stronger than McCain, but in my humble opinion, he was too quick to smooth things over.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 12:45 AM
How about you go back and start with the first post in this thread and read who is attacking who with misleading comments? Huckabee, after taking this kind of garbage for months in the Republican primaries, hits back and then out comes all the outrage. It’s the same thing here on this forum. Huck haters viciously attack him and when I strike back criticizing Romney, the waterworks begin. What is wrong with you? Seriously.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 12:46 AM
I’m better known in these parts than you are.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 12:40 AM
As an ass? You accuse me to be a fake, yet have not proved it. Link or sink buddy, prove that I am a fake, because I can back up the assertion you are an ass.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 12:47 AM
That’s your opinion. I have a differing opinion. When describing vulgarity, sometimes in the interest of accuracy you must respond in kind. When someone tells me what I can’t say, I tend to say it more. Shit, what the hell, screw it.
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 12:47 AM
The message needs to be simple…
“Limited Government and Personal Liberty.”
The problem is social conservatives think the message is the bible and abortion.
It is not just getting the message out, it is actually having a message.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Oh, very conservative.
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:49 AM
God is a very, essential part of conservatism ( because rights come from God, not government ). Abortion is as well, as conservatives believe that it falls under Life, in the part of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 12:53 AM
+100
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 12:56 AM
No God is an essential part of SOCIAL conservatism. Conservatism is not religious. The movement has been so high-jacked by the religious right it has no relation to what it stood for. Unbelievable.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:57 AM
I really really liked McCain in 2000. That was the year he should have won. If McCain had been President on 9-11 he would have led through that so brillantly… The country would have fared so much better. But I reluctantly voted for McCain this year. And I understand why he didn’t win. This just wasn’t his time.
I desprately wish we had a wise and experienced money man in the Whitehouse this year. I wish Mitt was President. The entire world would be better off. But by 2012 I could feel that Mitt’s time came and went and he wasn’t tapped and that is that. Move on.
Oh if it were only Mitt making the decisions through all this…
petunia on March 11, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Ever read the Declaration, Poopytach? Unbelievable.
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Brian 1972 and Conservative Voice,
People like Poptech, Bill Mahr and Allapundit are bigots. They probably do not have a problem with Hinduism or Buddahism, or even Islam, but that Christianity stuff has to go! Why? Because, unlike the other religions, Christianity has a very specific message of condemnation for the sin they value so highly. It also has a message of redemption that brings one into a peaceful relationship to their Creator. But, for people like them, the cost, i.e., repentance, is too high. So, they have a vendetta against the people who preach and live that message.
That’s ok, they don’t have to believe what we believe, but it is not ok for them to set boundaries that marginalize the very people and beliefs that made conservatism what it is. Their belief in limited government is commendable, but without the Bible, there is no foundation on which to build a principle of a government by the people and for the people.
If they despise conservatives (those who believe in limited government, free market economics, personal liberty, and the God who made all this possible) that much, then maybe they need to head over to the Libertarian Party website. They will be welcome there with open arms, and find beliefs more commensurate with their own.
Joe Pyne on March 11, 2009 at 1:11 AM
Seriously, there must be a Home Depot sale going on tonight. The tools are everywhere.
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Hmmm, there’s got to be an argument in there somewhere…….I just know it’s there…………….Oh, well, I guess not.
Joe Pyne on March 11, 2009 at 1:20 AM
If you ask me that on another day I’ll be glad to answer. Don’t really have time to give a you a proper respone right now. I encourage all true Bible-believing Christians to pray for Glenn Beck and his family that God will give my Mormon friends eyes to see and ears to hear the truth of who God is, and to realize they are being fooled by Joseph Smith who twisted and changed the truth concerning Christ.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 1:25 AM
I believe that these rights do not come from Government. That is what the founding Fathers believed. We are born with these rights and the Government has no authority to take them away, unless in the interest of justice when someone infringes upon someone else’s rights, as according to laws passed by the people.
I’m not a practicing religious person, but I don’t look down on Americans who are. Some of them actually bother me when they mix up their religion and our Government, but most religious conservatives just want the traditions of our society respected. They want to do their thing, and not be run out of town with torches.
There is so much wisdom in the writings and quotations of the Founding Fathers. I need to read more of them than I have so far.
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 1:28 AM
The 12 year old can run in 2012?
unclesmrgol on March 11, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Bravo, Brian, and if other libertarian-leaning conservatives believed as you do, we would not be having this debate.
Joe Pyne on March 11, 2009 at 1:37 AM
The truth is that Sarah is the best to deal with a bad economy. She is a libertarian on economics and THAT is what the country needs NOW, not more Dem-Lite BS. She also is for a strict interpretation of Alaska’s state constitution and will be sticking to the US Constitution in the event she is POTUS.
She’ll push to lower taxes and slow down spending.
The one legitimate criticism of Sarah is that she just is not up-to-speed yet with enough national issues. If she does get up-to-speed and communicates her conservative vision, look out.
Sapwolf on March 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM
+100
Today, I came across a couple of news articles about how Alaska is the #1 State with the lowest taxpayer burdens because Palin will not raise taxes. Alaska has a budget surplus (unlike my state and most others) as a result of Palin’s excellent leadership and budget management. I also read that Palin wants to continue a moratorium on state gas taxes. Now that’s a fiscal conservative!
sarahpalinfan99 on March 11, 2009 at 1:42 AM
Thank you. Remember, I’m not anti-Palin, I’m not anti-Romney, I’m not anti-Obama. I am for truth and against error. Period. If something’s true, I’m for it. If something’s false, I’m against it. And I think that’s the attitude we should always keep on everything, okay. What is truth. So if a person is searching for truth they will have no problem with me. And sometimes I understand I come across a little sarcastic and mean. I am working on trying to be more Christ-like in my dealings with the scoffers. However you don’t decide truth based upon — is the speaker nice or mean? That’s not how you decide it. Thank you.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 1:48 AM
I’ve been saying all night that this whole turd flinging exercise between Republicans is counterproductive.
I try not to get nasty and snarky, unless responding to nasty snarkiness.
Palin is my favorite since the convention, I voted for Romney in the primaries, and I liked Fred before that.
I am pro-life politically, but not really for religious reasons.
It’s more of the approach of inalienable rights, life and liberty. Who looks out for the rights of the unborn? They are Americans too.
When you are talking liberty, taxation, non-intrusive government, strong proud national defense, freedom of religion, that’s my conservative language. I find common cause with most religiously oriented conservatives on that basis.
The extremists are an embarrassment, because the libs use them to tar and feather the rest of us and scare away less involved voters. It works all too often (see Pastor Hagee’s appearance in the last election).
Some on the right are now engaging in this blanket stereotyping that will only tear apart what’s left of the Reagan Coalition.
Maybe that’s the idea for them. Not for me. If we oppose this neo-socialist push together, we might beat it back the next four years. If we are torn apart, they win. That explains a lot of the White House’s actions the last couple of weeks, does it not?
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 1:54 AM
Why do these wiener-heads like this guy get away with constantly trying to turn this political forum into a religious discussion?
Dude, if you want to discuss politics, lets go. But there are other forums where you can voice your opposition to Mormonism (try IluvSatan.com for instance)but this is a political forum…so take your attempts to agitate people into a religious debate and stick them up your ass.
Romney won the support of the following conservatives…obviously just a small sample but it makes the point that the true intelligent conservatives knew who to support.
National Review
Laura Ingraham
Ann Coulter
Rush Limbaugh
Ronald Reagan, HWBush, and many pro-life people changed their view on that issue…just like Mitt.
This whole Mitt flip flops crap is nothing but a cover for the only real reason a republican wouldnt support Romney:
He is too conservative for your tastes
You dont like Mormons.
Apacolps,your hero got his stomach stapled and every intelligent person knows it…but he wont admit it cause he is a lying sack of kangaroo poop.
The Wall on March 11, 2009 at 2:00 AM
Your defense was that you neither praise Obama nor attack Palin.
I’ve attacked the Mittens who paint Sarah ugly, and I attack the Sarah-gushers who paint Mitt ugly ) There are things I like about Mitt and things I like about Sarah. But I don’t make that decision based on how popular they are, or how much money they can raise…I base it in principles.
Conservative Voice on March 10, 2009 at 9:53 PM
In the 7 pages and counting of this item, you have barely skimmed the surface of principle. Your constant use of “Palin-gushers” is creepy. As is your Mittens trip. I can’t stand Romney, and even I realize “Mittens” is from Wonkette. I certainly wouldn’t throw the name around while I professed to stand for the Republican party preaching the 11th commandment.
We who? I have been on this site for several months, and I’ve never seen you here. Now you’re the Voice of the Conservative Movement? Getalife is less contentious and frighteningly confrontational than you.
As for MadisonConservative, your blog sucks, and if I’d ever made a racist comment, I’d have been banned. The administrators don’t tolerate that.
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 2:04 AM
What you got?
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 2:06 AM
No God is an essential part of SOCIAL conservatism. Conservatism is not religious. The movement has been so high-jacked by the religious right it has no relation to what it stood for. Unbelievable.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Poptech, you do not understand conservatism. Read the founding fathers. Conservatives believe, as Glenn Beck describes in the We Surround Them
There is three legs to conservatism, social, economic and military ( peace through strength )
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 2:10 AM
Yes, God commands me to love my enemies (Luke 10:27) and I do care about you and where you will spend your eternal life Madison. I don’t want you to end up in hell. I am praying for you that God opens your eyes and turns you from “darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God” (Acts 26:18) so you will receive forgiveness of sins and go to heaven. I still think you are a goblin though who is demonically controlled.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 2:10 AM
One more point and then off to bed:
I have seen comments on this site from Palin fans like:
“I dont want a really smart president”
or
“Romney is just fake, he is too perfect”
I thought just the liberals celebrated non-achievement.
Many Romney haters dont like him because of his religion.
But many other Romney haters are simply uncomfortable with him because he makes them feel like failures in comparison.
Romney got the famous “perfect” SAT score.
Romney excelled, top 5% in both a law degree and an MBA from Harvard.
Romney came from a modestly wealthy background and it turned it to an extremely huge fortune based on his business acumen and brains.
Romney had 5 sons, none of which knocked up a broad prior to marriage. All of which went on religious service missions before starting their own careers.
Romney married a babe.
Romney kept his movie star looks.
Romney became the catholic equivalent of the leader of a diacese. In other words, he had responsiblity of 12 congregations WHILE WORKING FULL TIME MAKING A BILLION BUCKS IN BUSINESS.
Friends and associates promise that they have never heard Romney use foul language…..ever.
Friends and associates claims they have never seen Romney lose his temper.
Romney has lived, pretty much a perfect life.
Then there is knocked up Palin and fat-ass Huckster with the ugly wife and the dog-hanging son.
Jealousy. If there is a hell…you jealous types will be there.
The Wall on March 11, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Actually no, you should be able to practice whatever religious beliefs you wish, they just have no place in government. I fully support the constitution.
More like #5 in socialism.
Alaska Ranks 45 of 50 States in Economic Freedom(Pacific Research Institute)
Total MYTH!!!! Unbelievable the Palintologists just keep repeating fabrications.
Alaska sees $1.25 billion budget gap on oil price drop (Reuters)
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 2:20 AM
chunderroad on March 11, 2009 at 2:04 AM
really, in this thread I have stand for common sense. I have gone after poptech and Wall boy because they are all about hating Sarah because she doesn’t have the right pedigree. I have gone after the over the top Sarah lovers who distort Romney’s record because they think it somehow makes Sarah look better. I call them Sarah gushers because they are over the top zealots of Sarah can do no wrong. Sorry I do not trust ANY government official…I don’t care who. So when people try to raise any flags they may have…the Sarah gushers are quick to preach the word. Could I vote for Sarah? Yes. Could I vote for Romney, yes. Is there unfairness on both sides…YES!!! And that is my point.
As far as not knowing who I am, that is your problem. Just because I don’t post every moment, doesn’t mean I haven’ posted in the past. I don’t do this for a living. But I have posted several times and have been involved in politics for over 20 years. As far as me being an authority as to what conservatism is…don’t take my word for it…study it, prove me wrong.
You have yet to prove I am a fake, but my proof of you being an ass still stands.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 2:21 AM
The Bible has nothing to do with government. Most of the founding fathers were Anglican. All hail the church of England!
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 2:26 AM
Oh, and yes, using God’s name as a curse word or in a derogatory way instead of using a four-letter word to express disgust is hurtful and offensive to me. No matter how much I disliked you I would not use your mothers name as a curse word. Hitler’s name isn’t even used as a curse word! God gave you your eyes to see, your brain to think — He keeps your heart beating — He gave you your life, your family, and everything precious to you, and instead of using a curse word to express disgust you’re taking the name of the God who gave you life and using His name as a curse word. If you use God’s name in this manner then you are a blasphemer and the Bible says “God will not hold him guiltless who takes the name of the Lord in vain,” (Exodus 20:7).
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 2:28 AM
The Wall on March 11, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Yep, Romney is a great guy. He is wrong on guns. He was wrong to say his sons service was equivalent to the people who serve in the military. He toys with socialism. Would he make a fair choice…given those who ran last round he was a fair choice.
As far as Sarah Palin and her daughter…low blow, and you know it. Christians aren’t about judging people who make mistakes…they want values, but understand mistakes happen…we all have fallen under temptation. The ironic thing is, you are quick to throw the first stone at her.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 2:29 AM
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 2:26 AM
You don’t know the founding fathers then. They heavily used the Old Testament as a guide for law.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 2:32 AM
Well, I don’t buy there are times when somebody curses “in the interest of accuracy you must respond in kind.” Sorry. Sure, it slips out here and there when we least expect it. Hammer on finger. Ouch! But, I prefer to “Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness” (2 Timothy 2:16). Could you imagine if every post had filthy cursing in it. Talk about going down-hill. Are you a Christian? Do you identify yourself as a Christian?
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 2:39 AM
Maybe if you invent bullshit. No one said it is because she did not go to Harvard or was born rich. The fact is she has an irrelevant Journalism degree she obtained by going to 5 colleges. Who the hell goes to 5 colleges? That is just ridiculous not to mention her degree is absolutely irrelevant! It is like Katie Couric running for office. Palin is as irrelevant if not more than Obama. This is the hypocrissy that Palintologists don’t get. Palintologists only care that she is Pro-Life period. That is it, the rest is lip service to made-up talking points that do not support the facts. Mayor? She left the town in $20 million in debt financing government projects. Bridge to no where? She campaigned on it and then when it became politically hot, flip flopped and then had the audacity to act like she was the “maverick” who took it down. Earmarks? She lobbied for MILLIONS! Taxes? She raised them 25% on oil companies! She is the ultimate mythical candidate with absolutely nothing to show for it. All her hype is based on Palintologist BS. Her support is now like some monsterous cult of pro-lifers who don’t care what the facts are so long as she is pro-life. It is hypocrissy at it’s finest.
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 2:41 AM
I repeat:
I think the Founders knew more about governing than you. Do you disagree with George Washington about the founding of this country? You know what, on second thought I don’t care if you do. I’ll go with Washington. You can worship at the feet of Romney all you want, we’ll see how it shakes out, eh?
I will leave you with this from Iowahawk. It’s about Hugh Hewitt, but it could be you.
Enjoy that issue of MittBeat Magazine, with the pullout poster(that still kills me!) boys. I’m off to dream about Sarah Palin stomping a mudhole in your posterior for disrespecting her family so rudely. Goodnight.
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 2:44 AM
Just for the record, Sarah is not the Queen of Alaska. There are a bunch of political types up there who believe they have something to say (they’re called legislators).
Mitt cannot win because of the Mormon issue. It probably should not be a deal breaker but the truth is not always what we want it to be.
Fred does not want to be President. Jeri does not want to be First Lady.
Rush cannot afford the pay cut. Neither can Ann.
Huck has cracks in his armor, plus he stands on the Bible too much (at least he is perceived that way).
Jindal is much more valuable as infantry in the field supporting whoever is the candidate, but he might be blinded by clever manipulators and tricked into running.
Of course, there’s always Frum. :)
platypus on March 11, 2009 at 2:45 AM
I agree. The good Lord Jesus established His church to carry out His commands on earth. The founding fathers recognized this and established the constitution to limit government and protect God’s church. As you rightly point out, rights come from God, not government, and the founders established as a constitutional republic, not a democracy, to enforce the laws. They would be shocked by what is happening today.
“A simple democracy is one of the greatest of evils.” – Benjamin Rush, Signer of the Declaration of Independence
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 2:49 AM
Hold on, one more thing.
What are you, Huckabee’s Grand Inquisitor? Stop throwing your Bible at me! This is what I meant earlier about being embarrassed by some of the religious righties. Some people use colorful language to make a point with more punch. That’s all. You notice I did not use any names in vain, just toilet terms from time to time. I explained my beliefs way up the thread, you must have missed it. I’ll just say I’m a backsliding Baptist, who enjoys the less-than-holy parts of life, maybe a little too much sometimes. You know what? That’s between the Lord and ME, so I’ll handle my salvation from now on alright?
Brian1972 on March 11, 2009 at 2:55 AM
My blog does suck. However, you did make a racist comment, just last night. It’s quoted in another person’s post, but the original post is gone. Try again.
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Poptech on March 11, 2009 at 2:41 AM
Here is the problem Pop, the flags you raise are flags that should be raised concerning her record. But her pedigree, where she went to school, what degree…most people don’t give a flying flip…because the truth is, it doesn’t matter. Who did the conservative elite support? Obama, because Obama has the pedigree. Who did Wall Street support, with all their degrees in Economics? Again, President Obama. So please spare me the argument that somehow having a degree makes a person smarter and wiser. But because you are so over the top anti-Palin, no one listens to the flags that should be addressed…like leaving the mayor’s office with the debt, the bridge to no where, the amnesty thing, etc. Like I said, I don’t trust anyone who runs, but get really annoyed when half truths are spoken…because they think we are playing King of the hill.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 2:59 AM
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 2:49 AM
careful, you are agreeing with a Mormon.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 3:01 AM
I guess Obama’s not the only one with enemies.
Oh noes! apacalyps is gonna astroturf me!
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 3:01 AM
Sociopaths are very deceptive and tend to lie continuously, Walnut. You still owe me an apology for lying about me in your other post. You posted I said that “Huckabee would be the republican nominee for president,” which was a total fabrication. I never said that. You made it up. You can’t just make stuff up about people, Walnut. So where is your apology? Or will you play the coward and slither away?
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:01 AM
There is. “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:8
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:04 AM
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:01 AM
I think he is confusing you with another poster back in the day, I don’t remember his name…but he made that announcement and claimed it was revealed to him by the spirit.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 3:05 AM
So, I’m curious — do you think that non-Christians can be Americans? Or are you saying that only Christians are allowed to govern us?
ramrocks on March 11, 2009 at 3:11 AM
I am totally stealing that from you. Deadly sin or not, it’s perfect for this over-self-blown dipstick.
That’s why I love ya.
MadisonConservative on March 11, 2009 at 3:12 AM
I can’t always keep track of who’s who sometimes, but I agree with Mormons on a lot of things. They have a different god than Christians do though. The Jesus I’m talking about and the jesus they are talking about are completely two different people.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:14 AM
LOL. Well at least we agree on one thing.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:18 AM
I think you are right. That was Red Pill. Not me. Totally different person. Thank you.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:20 AM
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:14 AM
it was said tongue in cheek. as far as your belief that they are different Gods, I will leave it as that is your opinion.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 3:21 AM
TRU DAT
angryed on March 11, 2009 at 3:33 AM
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 2:29 AM
He never used the word equivalent or anything like it.
For those claiming Allahpundit and Ed are ignoring the poll showing Sarah as the leader of the party in order to push Romney…why didn’t they include Romney on the poll then? Might explain why “noone” is also getting a lot of votes in the poll.
I prefer Romney out of the contenders I’m currently aware of, but I’d take anyone likely to run over the disaster we’ve got in office right now.
thecountofincognito on March 11, 2009 at 3:49 AM
No problem. And as far as Mormons having a different god than Christians do, this is not an opinion, it is fact, and it can be proven by comparing the two doctrines of Christianity and Mormonism. Usually this will come up when somebody mentions Romney or calls Huckabee a bigot who hates Mormons, or somebody claims that Mormons are Christians (which is not true). It is not me who brings it up. I am usually responding, defending. And what seems to be lost here is I am trying to help Mormons, not attack the Mormon religion. It is so important, I really worry about them, because the greatest faith in someone false is not gonna be faith that saves you. A false messiah, a false jesus, will not bridge the gap between God and man, only the real Jesus does that. And if you have God wrong, you have everything wrong. That’s all I have to say right now. Thank you.
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:50 AM
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:50 AM
it is fact according to what authority? your religion? your interpretation? an angel of the Lord told you? That is why I left it as your opinion.
You can point to me scripture, but as soon as you interpret that scripture, its your opinion.
Conservative Voice on March 11, 2009 at 4:05 AM
Romney/Sanford ’12
If the economy is still struggling by then, this ticket will win, without question. If the economy recovers, Obama will win without question.
I want the economy to recover, but it’s sad that liberalism will get the credit, just like FDR.
iamse7en on March 11, 2009 at 4:10 AM
Mitt gets the nom when Palin breaks Huckabee’s “Christian Conservative” monopoly.
Romney/Palin 2012: This time, The GOP means buisness!
Romney trounces 0bama on the pressing questions of the crumbled ecconomy, Palin crushes Hillary in the VP debate by pointing to Pants Suit’s Gaffe-tacular run as Secretary of State.
0bama and Hillary end up with the rest of the reds on the ash heap of history after a 40+ state drubbing.
SuperCool on March 11, 2009 at 4:24 AM
Romney all the way. Don’t really like him, but I think he’ll better for the economy than what we have now.
nazo311 on March 11, 2009 at 4:25 AM
apacalyps on March 11, 2009 at 3:50 AM
Sod the hell off. People like you are the reasons why Republicans are starting to become unelectable. Get over your damn religious bigotry and start supporting party platforms, not religious platforms.
Kaitian on March 11, 2009 at 4:38 AM
umm…so was Jesus!
sabbott on March 11, 2009 at 5:03 AM
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