Study: 24% of Americans now either atheist, agnostic, or deist
posted at 5:50 pm on March 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
Red meat to cleanse the palate via the American Religious Identification Survey, well seasoned and tenderized thanks to a sample of 54,000 people. (Margin of error: 0.5 percent.) You’ll find the key data in Table 3. Self-identified atheists and agnostics have tripled since 1990, from 1.1 million people to north of 3.6 million — but the number who now claim “no religion” is 34 million, or fully 15 percent. So where does that 24 percent figure in the headline come from? Right here:

Note that the percentage who agree that “there is no such thing” is more than three times the percentage who self-identify as atheist in Table 3, meaning people are eschewing the label — probably either because of residual stigma in the culture or because high-profile proselytizing atheists have done such a good job of alienating the public that even those who agree with them don’t want to be associated. Meanwhile, people agreeing with any of the first three statements total 12.1 percent, which is more than seven times the total number of self-identified atheists and agnostics in Table 3. Toss in the deists via the fourth statement and you reach an obvious conclusion: A lot of people who identify as Christian have some highly nuanced beliefs about the Christian concept of God. What would one call a Christian who’s not sure he believes in a divine father? An atheistic theist? That label has been used before.
Exit question: How skewed is the data by the fact it only accounts for U.S. adults and therefore offers no prediction about the next generation? Hmmmm.










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ah bologna
The Wall on March 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM
That bunch will never know what they are, but rather what they’re not. Judging by this election, I’m surprised that number isn’t higher.
chunderroad on March 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM
And considering a certain number of self described atheists believe in God, take this with a grain of salt.
Esthier on March 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Give it another 2 generations and this country will be a majority atheist, although maybe not a majority willing to come out and say it.
thphilli on March 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM
John Knowles, A SEPARATE PEACE
Mark30339 on March 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Exit question: How skewed is the data by the fact it includes Obama voters and they may not be aware that Messiahs and God are Different? Hmmmmmmm…
WashJeff on March 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Their loss, but it should make the
communistsdemocrat party happy. That’s been one of their goals for decades … to minimize religion, especially Christianity.darwin on March 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Does that make you feel better Allah?
If only more women would sleep with you, but for religion getting in the way of things. Things would be so much better!
Mr. Joe on March 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I could have told you that. I’ll take a 10th of what this study cost to do it, too.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Don’t forget to include those atheists who are in service and may see combat….. wanna bet conversion occurs after the first few rounds fired? I personally saw the conversion of many….lol
MNDavenotPC on March 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Finally. Allah’s gone back to putting up atheist posts when he wants to bait the comment boxes.
Hopefully this means he’s done with posting David Frum columns.
SteakRules on March 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Quite possibly true. And, ironically, prophesied in the Bible.
Heh.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM
What would one call a blog-site where there seems to be a daily thread concerning atheism?
Bishop on March 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM
@ MNDavenotPC on March 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM
It isn’t news that religion is a comfort mechanism created by humans because of their fears of death.
thphilli on March 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM
One of ussss….ssssss!
ronsfi on March 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Is anyone curious as to whether we might see another Age of Aquarius in the coming years? People certainly seem disenfranchised with the religious establishment.
MadisonConservative on March 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Yet you have no representation in Congress or Affirmative Action protection.
You need to shout to the mountaintops, Allahpundit! Your people shall not go without a voice anymore!!!!!
jimmy the notable on March 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Oh geez … I hope your horse isn’t very high.
darwin on March 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Lets all pray for them.
“In today news,24% of Americans heads have exploded after learning people pray for them without their consent. The ACLU has stepped in, and a lawsuit will be filed.”
portlandon on March 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM
It isn’t news that religion is a comfort mechanism created by humans because of their fears of death.
thphilli on March 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Buddhist Samurai and Muslim suicide bombers would disagree with you.
Bishop on March 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Or that for many the opposite is true of atheism.
Esthier on March 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Next up… Nirther posts.
LGF yawnfest comment banning too!
Stephen M on March 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Is this from the same polling agency that said that 16% of atheists believe in [a] G/god?
Glenn Jericho on March 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
The Marxists and Communists must be celebrating at hearing this news Allahpundit
That is the camp you are in. Those are your team members.
There is no place for the Godless/anti-Christ in the Conservative movement.
TheMightyQuinn on March 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
I mean the same.
Esthier on March 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Aww. Sorry AP. We’re trying to shrink the tent, apparently.
jimmy the notable on March 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I don’t believe in Obama.
But I still want him to fail.
Go figure.
whitetop on March 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
This sounds like a snigglet request. I’ll bite. athreadism
WashJeff on March 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
All Fixed.
portlandon on March 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Heh. There was some Islamist troll who used to comment on righty blogs and end every comment with, “Your children will be Muslim.” Made me chuckle every time I read it. Maybe I should start doing that in the atheist threads.
Your children will be atheist.
Allahpundit on March 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM
At various times in my life I have been agnostic and atheistic. I grew up when I realized there really could be something greater than me out there. I invited Christ into my life; I’ve never looked back.
sondiehl on March 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM
I am not going to change my home interior to brown, orange, and yellow if this comes about.
WashJeff on March 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Religiously, I only believe there’s an intelligent order immanent in nature, and I’m a social conservative. So where does that put me.
Paul-Cincy on March 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM
All great states.
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM
What the Conservative Movement has no room for is knuckle dragging trolls now GIT!
ronsfi on March 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM
And by what associations shall we smear you?
DrSteve on March 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Waaaay over thinking this, AP.
Weight of Glory on March 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Like bees to honey Allah. Careful. Comment count might reach infinite.
portlandon on March 9, 2009 at 6:07 PM
All your Gods are belong to us!
ronsfi on March 9, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Terrific.
I invited God into my life, too, but then he told that he’d have tortured me forever if I hadn’t, so I kicked him out. I won’t have that attitude on my premises, thank you very much.
Allahpundit on March 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM
How dare you people deny or doubt the existence of the Almighty
ObamaGod!Seriously, all the poll proves is that the masses bathe in cognitive dissonance, and this has not changed in decades. Not an atheist but believe there’s no such thing in God? A “Christian” but not too sure that God exists or has come to earth? Too good for labels, so you’re “spiritual”?
Y’all get all ad hominem in the comments section and overlook the simple fact that there are stupid atheists and stupid theists, just as there are stupid liberals and stupid conservatives. Nor does it make a man brilliant when the lottery ticket he wastes his family’s grocery money to purchase turns out to have a winning number.
cackcon on March 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Whoops, forgot: Your children will be atheist.
Allahpundit on March 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM
We are trying to get David Frum thrown out, but he keeps getting invited back for editorials.
portlandon on March 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Gooble gobble.
Rhinoboy on March 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I suspect God likes athiests like Allah and Christopher Hitchens more than true believers like Dobson and others of his ilk.
Mr. Joe on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
You’re doing it all wrong. You are supposed to invite him into your heart.
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Um…, hey! What about that Darwinian evolution thing, huh? Crazy or what?
Rhinoboy on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
And they continue to find more and more evidence of the truth of Bible through recent archeological digs. They have only now been able to excavate the house of David, pre-Solomon even.
But alas, render unto Obama what is Obama’s…
kirkill on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
How about: Your children will be Allahpundit. I like it!
portlandon on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
I don’t believe in God, but I’m afraid of
Keyser SözeBarack Obama.jimmy the notable on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
I’ve heard about the shift in numbers. My question is this: did previous participants change their mind, did previous participants stretch the truth on other surveys, or has the pool increased with an influx of non-believing participants from …. somewhere.
AbaddonsReign on March 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Interesting – if so many people don’t believe in God, why do so many get all huffy when believers say that non-believers are going to Hell?
katiejane on March 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
I don’t doubt this for one minute. That really is the only explanation there is for so many people voting for the Messiah ignoring his unseemly Chicago political background, his associations with Bill Ayres, Tony Rezko, Khalidi, Jeremiah Wright, and Odinga, his belief in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, his mother’s flirtations with Marxism, his questionable birth, his sketchy experience in administration or government, and his belief in infanticide and spreading the wealth.
technopeasant on March 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Spoken like that other dude in the Bible, what was his name? Lucy something…
kirkill on March 9, 2009 at 6:15 PM
By the way you group the 24% you’d include some of the country’s founders.
dedalus on March 9, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Agnosticism makes the headlines at hotair.com… Holy Cow… Pun intended.
Kaptain Amerika on March 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Given that irreligiousness is the only socially acceptable attitude in nearly all urban environments, schools, universities and workplaces, this not surprising. Frightening and depressing, but not surprising.
Atheism is the default public religion, per the modern interpretation of the Constitution. The only religion you’re allowed to proclaim freely in the public square is the lack thereof. All other assertions are deemed violations of the establishment clause.
spmat on March 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM
AP, you crack me up! And since I’m a non-believer, and my husband is fairly agnostic (depending on the economy, it seems) – does that mean our kids will be religious? Not that it bothers me either way.
Looks like I have to pack my bags, though, seeing how there’s no place for me in the Conservative movement. It’s a shame, really, because I can make really good cupcakes.
Anna on March 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM
You’re doing it all wrong. You are supposed to invite
hHim into your heart.carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Your feeble postings are no match for my indoctrination methods, SPAWN OF
STANSATINSATAN!I invited gravity into my life, but it kept threatening me with falling when I jumped off cliffs, so I pretend it doesn’t exist.
;)
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Probably, just like I was. At least I’ve given them everything they need if they choose to follow Jesus. But it is up to each individual, and that’s something not even The One Obama-won-kenobi can take away.
kirkill on March 9, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Brilliant!
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:18 PM
The last time I invited someone into my life, she took everything.
Bishop on March 9, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Really, gang, leave off the atheist-bashing. It hardly comports with the conservative principle of free exercise or the Christian commandment of loving one’s neighbor.
Sure, Allah picks many of these fights with his incessant posts on the topic, and I’m flabbergasted sometimes by headlines which question the intellectual capacity of believers such as myself, but at least try to respond intellectually rather than insultingly. Let’s not descend to the level of Kos or the Huff-and-Puffington Post.
cackcon on March 9, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Check this out O Creator of Worlds.
The Intelligence-Religiousity Nexus: A representative study of white adolescent americans.
strangelet on March 9, 2009 at 6:20 PM
I hated when then that happened.
thomasaur on March 9, 2009 at 6:20 PM
So where does an irrational belief in a politician or a government fall in this study?
Jamson64 on March 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM
What has Dobson done?
Jamson64 on March 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Well you’re certainly not the closet liberal some accuse you of being, AP….no lib would admit to having conversations with God.
Patrick S on March 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Some of us understand that AP’s just teasing us. It takes some of us a while to figure that out, I admit.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Forget it. He dares to stand up for traditional marriage. Now I get it.
Jamson64 on March 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Sod off you sanctimonious twit. Tools like you are poison to the conservative movement. Be gone.
dakine on March 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Rational.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Still trying to figure out how it even comes close to 24%
AP you sound like a lib spinning polls
Jamson64 on March 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Only if they are smart.
;)
strangelet on March 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I know this correlation/causation thing is hard, but do try to figure it out.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM
The more the atheist number goes up the more America will fall.
JihadKiller1s1k on March 9, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Nothing for Apatheists*, however.
*(As in, the question of the existence of the divine is irrelevant to us.)
irishspy on March 9, 2009 at 6:29 PM
They are mostly into eating human flesh and drinking blood.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Geez it has taken 2000 years (plus) for 25% to realize that snakes don’t talk, women wasn’t made from a man’s rib, whole cemeteries don’t rise from the dead, people aren’t born from virgins, the magical healers never died out because they never existed, etc.
I guess that’s what happens when you don’t eat from the tree of knowledge.
LevStrauss on March 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Expect to hear from the Reformed Methodist Martyr’s Brigades.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
But your Geekness, the authors aren’t using correlation coefficiants….they are using Nonparametric Rank-Sum.
lol
strangelet on March 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Congrats! you win the prize for the most ignorant prejudiced comment of the night. Yippeeeee
Jamson64 on March 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I thought Allah quit or went on vacation, or something……..
Janos Hunyadi on March 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Oh stop. That kind of stuff isn’t even done until you are at least at level 6.
portlandon on March 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
That would be the Russians.
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:36 PM
He was to be on vacation for three more days but this story came up.
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM
I have been served. And a great big reading comp fail.
Apologies as I go look that up.
TheUnrepentantGeek on March 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Perspectives will surely change because society will have to change to adapt to the world situation, but I’m guessing it will be in the other direction. A return to traditional roots and the basics of not only family/social life, but in grounding beliefs. The whole A of Q sensibilities will be discredited and more clearly seen for what they are..juvenile efforts to run from responsibilities and the consequences of personal choices.
At least that seems a possibility to me.
Itchee Dryback on March 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Well once religion started losing its grasp on conditioning society to be docile and die for leaders the state passed it as the biggest charlatan of false promises and the easiest way to control population. That’s the sad part. A lot of atheists are liberals, so they just gave up on one heaping piece of bullshit and started believing in another. So whatever the number, we still got a long way to go.
LevStrauss on March 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Of the percentage who say there is no God, it would be interesting to see how many say Christ never existed. That would be a good indication of their level of ignorance.
aikidoka on March 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM
The U.S. has frequently had presidents who have been either personally indifferent to organized religion or skeptical of Jesus Christ as a deity.
dedalus on March 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Let me guess. Screwing kids doesn’t start until double digits.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
A decline in religious belief has been horrible for Europe, it is not something to celebrate here or anywhere. People who don’t look to God are far more likely to look to government. Americans religiosity, particularly our Judeo-Christian religiosity is part and parcel of why America differs, and is so much better than the rest of the world.
This is not good news by any measure. Its sad news.
American Elephant on March 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
That’s because they are afraid that God is watching!
JeffVader on March 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Is the conservative movement killing religion?
getalife on March 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Of the percentage who know about the Bible, it would be interesting to see how hard people think it is to improve its moral message. That would be a good indication of their level of literacy.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Aquarius 2000-4000 AD (Probably Global Warming)
Pisces 0-2000 AD (The fisher of men)
Aries 2000 BC – 0 (The Ram)
Taurus 4000 BC – 2000 BC (The Bull, or I guess you could say the Golden Calf)
LevStrauss on March 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Hopefully. Personal choice and responsibility or one’s actions and eternal serfdom are hard to connect.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
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