Specter: The public’s not being told just how bad the economy is
posted at 7:36 pm on March 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
The D-word is duly deployed, sending an icy chill down your humble correspondent’s back. The problem with trying to take this seriously is that Team Barry (and, in Specter’s case, his allies) has been so shameless and cynical in using the downturn as an “opportunity” that there’s no way to distinguish earnest warnings from exploitative fearmongering. E.g., is Specter on the level here or is he trumping up the extent of the crisis to justify his stimulus vote after the fact as a necessary heresy that saved the world?
Being a congenital pessimist, I swallow hard and assume that the end is indeed nigh.
“Our economic problems are enormously serious — more serious than is publicly disclosed. And I think we’re on the brink of a depression,” he told reporters at the state Capitol…
He reiterated Monday that he felt passage of the legislation was more important than protecting his Senate seat.
“Had there been no stimulus, I think we’d have gone right off the edge,” he said. “I think we’re pretty close to the edge anyway, to be very brutally blunt about it.”
A friend who lives in Manhattan told me the other day that no one she knows is behaving as though we’re on the verge of falling off a cliff. I’m not behaving that way myself, frankly: I don’t have many luxury expenses but I still order out as much as I used to, still keep up my gym membership, etc. Exit question: What would have to happen for the mood in the country to change to a depression footing? I think we’d need an event rather than the death by inches we see on the market every day to really drive it home. If Citi failed or GM went into bankruptcy and the Dow suddenly dropped 1,000 points, that might do it. Or, I guess, if the Dow went low enough — approaching 5,000, maybe? — then real panic would set in. Short of that, I think people (at least here in NYC) are going to keep treating it like Y2K and hope for the best.
Update: Repent.
America’s five largest banks, which already have received $145 billion in taxpayer bailout dollars, still face potentially catastrophic losses from exotic investments if economic conditions substantially worsen, their latest financial reports show.
Citibank, Bank of America, HSBC Bank USA, Wells Fargo Bank and J.P. Morgan Chase reported that their “current” net loss risks from derivatives — insurance-like bets tied to a loan or other underlying asset — surged to $587 billion as of Dec. 31. Buried in end-of-the-year regulatory reports that McClatchy has reviewed, the figures reflect a jump of 49 percent in just 90 days.
Update (Ed): Here’s an indicator as to whether Specter is serious or whether he’s just playing CYA on Porkulus. How many earmarks does he have in the omnibus spending bill? Because from where I sit, Congress has given us 9,283 reasons to think they’re blowing smoke. When they start sacrificing, then I’ll buy it.










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Then your vote for the Porkulus is even worse, since that POS legislation does next to nothing for the economy, but builds up more debt and entitlements. Moron. Get a brain, Arlen.
progressoverpeace on March 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM
The comical noses photo is back. Thank you! It always brightens my day.
Mason on March 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM
And he has only harmed the economy further by his idiocy.
echosyst on March 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Welfare moms fault!
DeathToMediaHacks on March 9, 2009 at 7:40 PM
And we are very much on the edge of a cliff – a monetary cliff, which is 1,000,000,000,000 times worse than an economic cliff – which is why this Precedent’s, Congress’, and the traitor Republicans’ actions are tantamount to treason, especially with respect to the Porkulus.
progressoverpeace on March 9, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Big Banks in trouble? Not so shocking…
AP has gym membership and is telling me to repent? Jaw falls down near bellybutton…
innominatus on March 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM
That brain-dead senile fool is drinking the Obama kookaid. THROW HIS ASS OUT!
marklmail on March 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Looks to me like it’s CYA time for Specter.
katy on March 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Until now. The root of power is the possession of information that someone else does not have. Why not share the power with the people you serve?
Or is this information so bad that ordinary Americans can’t be told? So sayeth the leadership. Talk about fearmongering. How long can it be before we have the Treasury website post a Economy Threat Level indicator?
BobMbx on March 9, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Arlen Specter, you
magnificenthypocritical bastard!eaglescout1998 on March 9, 2009 at 7:43 PM
If the economy is worse than the public knows, shouldn’t our elected representatives be telling us just how bad it is? Or are they making sure their own fortunes and families are well-secured before the masses start rioting?
Bishop on March 9, 2009 at 7:43 PM
You rino, most of American’s know very well how bad things are. We have our money in irs, 401k, bho cratering our country, bho selling out our nation to gosh knows what, and the prospect of ALL of us getting tax increases. YOU are the one out of touch sugar.
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letget on March 9, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Remember when Obama was doing that and conservatives accused him of talking down the economy.
DeathToMediaHacks on March 9, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Um, I think we all have an idea about just how bad the economy is and just how bad it will get under Obama’s failed policies.
carbon_footprint on March 9, 2009 at 7:45 PM
I’ll take a shot…um….CYA for this reprobate.
They can always tell us how bad it is later.
ladyingray on March 9, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Saw Pat Toomey in your rear view mirror, did you, Arlen?
Wethal on March 9, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Um, that’s not good. We all think the economy really sucks. You mean it’s actually worse Arlen?
Citi has completely failed its shareholders. GM is burning the few billion it has left. Both are zombie corps, though neither will impload spectacularly.
dedalus on March 9, 2009 at 7:46 PM
True. If its all that bad he should have fought tooth and nail for more tax cuts and less Democrat-supporter payoff cr*pola, even at the risk of his seat. But he didn’t have the courage.
johnsteele on March 9, 2009 at 7:47 PM
This is just more of the same fear mongering…Spector just realized that he needs to cover his sorry ass.
ladyingray on March 9, 2009 at 7:47 PM
So what to do about Obama’s recession? (I am going to use the phrase “Obama’s recession” whenever possible!)
Wine_N_Dine on March 9, 2009 at 7:47 PM
“Our economic problems are enormously serious — more serious than is publicly disclosed. And I think we’re on the brink of a depression,” he told reporters at the state Capitol…
Well Arlen, you assholes in Washington sure aren’t acting like ‘every dollar counts’. You’re spending like drunken sailors on liberty. Only problem is YOUR SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY!
GarandFan on March 9, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Sen. Specter yes the economy is bad .BUT YOU SIR ARE JUST ABOUT THE WORSE BAG OF CRAP IN DC AND WE KNOW VERY WELL HOW BAD YOU ARE.
thmcbb on March 9, 2009 at 7:48 PM
No DTMH, it’s the welfare corporation that reflects the same disgusting behavior in the singular that the welfare mothers display in the aggregate. The damage of both is the same, I.e. insolvency.
The distinction between you and me is this. You applaud the welfare mom and decry the welfare corporation. I decry them both.
spmat on March 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Well, after all, it was The Precedent who states that we only have one president at a time…it’s now his time.
ladyingray on March 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Oh, and Arlen…thanks to you, Collins, Snowe and your progressive pals, IT’S GONNA GET WORSE. COUNT ON IT.
Asshole!
GarandFan on March 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Wow…..he is saying a mouthful about the other republicans in the house and senate, isn’t he?
surrounded on March 9, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Right. Because economic problems are like intelligence. Few people have access to it. (OMG, so much pun!)
Seriously, what kind of garbage is this? Are we to believe that there’s a secret group of macro-economists who have come to some horrible conclusions, and there is a conspiracy to leave the public in the darkness?
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Remember when Obama was doing that and conservatives accused him of talking down the economy.
DeathToMediaHacks on March 9, 2009 at 7:45 PM
No, do you? I remember Ogabe telling us that the economy was bad and that we had to pass a trillion dollar stimulus RIGHT NOW! or it would get worse. I do not remember Ogabe saying that things were worse than he or anyone else were willing to admit, which is exactly my point.
Bishop on March 9, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Our jobs are stable but we’re moving to a smaller apartment just in case, to spend less and increase our savings. You don’t have to believe in the doomsday in order to react rationally to a worsening economic situation.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Well, with people like Spector and Obama in DC of course it’s gonna get worse.
boomer on March 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM
You don’t say?
Well Jesus H Christ – you don’t go deeper in debt if the economy is really that bad.
The problem with Obama is he was trained as a Marxist. So what he is doing
is following the Marxist way of doing things. That will only put the economy in the ditch that much faster. Obama’s team of clowns could not *uck a wet paper bag with success. What this country needs is big enema and iit is coming hard & fast. W
What we need to do is get rid of Obama as fast as possible. I think a nice long depression will solve that problem. America will default on much of it’s foreign debt and that will leave Obama standing in the wind holding his *ock.
America will have to get lean & mean again and that means back to basics.
Sell food, oil and technology to other countries to build your piggy bank back up. That means no “stimulus” crap. That means cut the welfare crap. These people are going to need to work. I am sorry I cannot support you anymore.
We need politicians that will encourage & protect the producers. Cut Federal regulation, forget this cap & trade crap. We need to get back to a robust system of capitalism with an eagle eye on fraud & abuse. And the next time a president tells Congress to look into something that might blow-up the economy they better damn well look into it and not say it “is fine”.
If you cannot afford a *ucking house then don’t buy it. Mr. Banker, no more no doc loans. You are at fault as much as Barney Frank is. Strict guidelines need to be in place. 25% of your income should be the max you spend on a house including taxes & insurance. If you loose your job and cannot pay for your house then get the hell out. Sell it and move into an apartment. No more freeloaders.
Obama is dragging America down like a huge boat anchor. Time to cut the chains that bind you. Obama is not a messiah. He is just a skinny punk lawyer, and not a very good one at that. Plus he is a lousy writer.
izoneguy on March 9, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I realize this was just snark, but, I agree, welfare moms are not the source of all our country’s ills.
The problem is that welfare moms/dads are not the solution to ANY of its problems either.
They don’t create wealth, they don’t pay into the system, they, for the most part, don’t even do well fulfilling the one responsibility that is left to them – raising their kids (though, I’m sure there are anecdotes of families where this isn’t the case).
To a great extent, they are non-factors in the economic engine of the country. The only part they play is as a prop for political debates over how much money should be doled out to them in any given year.
JadeNYU on March 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Don’t let a good crisis go to waste.
The goal: Obama’s approval rating under 50% before his first 100 days are up.
Friends, time for some new tactics …
If you just post on blogs and are not somehow influencing popular culture’s opinion of Obama & Co, you are worthless to the cause. Posting conservative thought on a conservative website is about productive as trying to get laid by masturbating.
Ed Graef on March 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Allah, those expenses have nothing to do with coming to grips with what will likely happen. When you realize where things are going, your reaction will not be to start saving money, but to leave New York City. It will go back to the way it was in the 70′s (which I’m betting you don’t remember) … back when you could buy a co-op on West End Avenue for $1, because people didn’t want to pay the outrageous maintenance for a city that you couldn’t walk around in. When things go bad, the cities are going to change. Young people today have no memories of how things were just 40 years ago.
progressoverpeace on March 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Blind squirrels find acorns, so they say, so even Specter could get this right, I suppose, though it makes me wonder. Freaking RINO.
EconomicNeocon on March 9, 2009 at 8:04 PM
This sad old man thinks that engaging in the scare tactics of the Obama administration will grant him a pardon by us conservatives. He will be out in 2010.
jencab on March 9, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I’d think a day or two of panicky selling which snowballs might do it. With 24/7 cable and the ‘net, the event would be magnified tremendously. Don’t have any idea what the absolute lower threshold would be to make people realize what is ahead. A few food shortages might also ring some bells.
a capella on March 9, 2009 at 8:05 PM
I know we are in for some deep sh1t, but I think we can turn the nation around in short order if we get the fn government out of our lives. The trillions of dollars they waste on this stimulus would buy a lot of beans and cornbread for the coming bread lines.
Just stop over regulating and taxing us.
TheSitRep on March 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM
I don’t doubt Specter is right. Nothing much to do about it except wait.
AnninCA on March 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM
I save by using a private gym.
JammieWearingFool on March 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Well, I guess old Arlen is just as insane as all the other Democrats in DC. The spending of that money isn’t going to help the depression we are just starting. Governmnet interference always makes things worse and they have been interfering way too much in the past 6 weeks.
BetseyRoss on March 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM
and his votes make the economy worse…what a tool…fool…whatever…
right4life on March 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Spector: “Had there been no stimulus, I think we’d have gone right off the edge,” he said.
There is my answer to why he is predicting a depression. Regardless now he can claim he did it for good reason and not that he is a RINO.
Some of of you may recognize this argument from TARP I. We do it or it is the end of the world.
Little tired of the end of the world politics how about anyone else?
Second why aren’t any safe democrats echoing if it would make them look good?
I suppose about 600 billion to democrat pet projects and groups would be a dead giveaway they aren’t worried about targeting anything to avoid anything like a depression.
Conan on March 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Some of these senate fossils like to reminisce about the Depression since it brings back the nostalgia of their college years.
Would be nice if the average age of the senate was about 30 years younger.
JammieWearingFool on March 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Well, here is the problem with what he is saying,,, where was there a stimulus???? There was massive government spending and expansion of government,,,, but what stimulus????
Something here doesn’t click?
I mean,, the stock market is being destroyed by the stimulus isn’t it?? I remember it plunging on the day they passed the first so called stimulus!
JellyToast on March 9, 2009 at 8:15 PM
He’s gone far beyond CYA. Don’t you see that Specter has saved the country from plague, pestilence, and economic collapse. Why, he is vying for hero. Of course, its a bold move, but he saw his opportunity when the Obama administration admitted to Obama’s extreme mental exhaustion. Now that’s a true politician. Aren’t we all proud?
genso on March 9, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Yeah, and wouldn’t you think if it were SERIOUS, Geithner would be trying to fill those cubicles so he doesn’t have to play with the freakin’ spreadsheet on his computer 18 hours a day?
Not to mention that Specter has a mouth. Why did he wait ’til now? Why hadn’t he been telling us if he felt we should be told.
Dusty on March 9, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Has anybody noticed that it only used to be liberals that were “say” unattractive. I guess this confirms it. Specter, Collins and Snowe are liberals because they are ugly. Eee gads – who can look at them anymore. go Toomey
suzyk on March 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Spectre is somewhat correct in that the situation is worse than they want to tell us. What they don’t want the public to know is that there are members of congress and the senate that have been getting “RICH” at the expense of the taxpayers because there is an incestuous relationship between the GUBMINT regulators, WS(GS, JPM, CITI, the treasury dept., and the FED. There was an article in the WSJ that listed the payees of AIG. You know the insurance giant that was too big to fail. It seems that AIG had to pay billions to the very same WS giants that were bailed out by the taxpayers in the first round.
Wait until all the derivatives crater, you haven’t seen anything yet. Yes we need more gubmint meddling into WS, the banking industry and of course the housing industry. Just think, if there had been more regulation, like we get on WS(SEC)ther wouldn’t have been a mortgage meldown. We would still be making sub-prime loans and selling them to Fannie and Freddie because they were ‘sound’ and would continued to be sound.
The joke is on us and our children, grandchildren and their children. We are the dupes and dolts for re-electing the same corrupted bastards to work for us, 535 members od Congress need to be given pink slips along with 100 senators. A clean sweep is needed or this country is on a head-on collision with armed civil war.
belad on March 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
I think it is becoming quite obvious that we need to live our lives without much regard to the government.
We, as a group, allow the institution of government way too much power. At the risk of sounding like an anarchist, I think the policy of all Americans is to just do what’s right, and ignore the government. This extends from the personal level, to the corporate and community level.
BobMbx on March 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
This is the elitist mentality that permeates DC. They all feel so omniscient that they must ‘protect us’. How do they think they have more information than the wall street brokers who deal with this every day?
Why is it that because these people happened to be elected (for whatever reason) means that they know so much more than everyone else. Why do they think that they and they alone can ‘save us’?
I guarantee you I know more about economics than Specter does. . . and I don’t know much. But I also know that Specter likely knows more than Obama. . . which makes our current situation with the government downright scary.
Bottom line is that Specter is trying to justify his vote. OBVIOUSLY if HE THOUGHT not passing the stimulus would lead to worse than it is now, then he would be REQUIRED to vote for it.
I certainly hope that he believes that. . . but I don’t think he knows any more than Joe public knows. And I KNOW he doesn’t know any more than the analysts on Wall Street watching it every day knows.
Bottom line. . . The economy is HORRIBLE. The government is NOT the solution.
ThackerAgency on March 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Exit answer: Let’s see, five or six more months of losing 500K jobs/month mixed with an absolute breakdown in Mexico leading to an influx of 100,000,000 refugees ought to do it.
The one problem with this thought Ed is that they live in a world that is 98% devoid of reality. They will NEVER start sacrificing.
There is only one way that budgets (other than defense) go in D.C. – up.
rockhead on March 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Spector: “Had there been no stimulus, I think we’d have gone right off the edge,” he said.
Hmmm, so spending $150B in 2009 would have been sufficient? Is that why we get the $13 a week, so we can save it until Obama makes the energy companies suck it from our wallet ’til we can pay the bills anymore?
I do agree with Emanuel not to let a good crisis go to waste: Lame duck by Memorial Day! & Schumer on a Stick!
(I’ve got a Tea Party to go to on Wednesday)
Dusty on March 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
PrincipledPilgrim on March 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Arlen Specter, seeing Pat Twoomy’s writing on the wall, is preparing for his jump to the Black Hole of the political spectrum. There, were no conservative ideas ever escape Specter will raise a mighty army of sycophants to destroy those in the light.
Or at least that’s what he believes. This is a man who would free Wesley Cook (aka Mumia Abu-Jamal) to seek a new trial. This is a man who invented the ‘Single Bullet Theory’ so the Warren Commission can close the case on JFK’s assassination. This is a man who will throw his alleged Party under the bus for his own gain.
In short, Arlen Specter is the most dishonest, disreputable, corrupt form of slime known to man. He is a quintessential Professional Politician *spit*.
SeniorD on March 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Congress is one big freak show of ineptitude. Specter is not a rarity; he is just not camera shy & has diarrhea of the mouth. These people are so out of touch with those of us that reside in reality, it is mind boggling that this country had not begun to crumble sooner.
Ris4victory on March 9, 2009 at 8:34 PM
So, Arlen, when you voted for Porkulus, you were actually trying to give us the secret signal or something? I agree with Ed: How many earmarks does the yellow-tailed Spector have in the new bill?
AubieJon on March 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
The economy is worse because Spector says? What all knowing OZ told him? Since these congressional dipsticks don’t know shinola in the first place, why should we believe them, I mean, after all, doesn’t Spectator think that the stimulus will help, when we all know it won’t do much?
Loon.
TinMan13 on March 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Translation: If Republicans weren’t so uninformed, they’d still be supporting me.
Cicero43 on March 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
If it’s THAT bad, does he think that coincidentally only he and the idiots from Maine are the only ones on the (R) side that realize it?
Shut up, Arlen. Problem is, he fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Like someone else said earlier, if he believed it to be true, why did he vote for those earmarks?
Oink on March 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM
But we sure see what a bad Republican you are.
Mr. Joe on March 9, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Anyone who can read a stock chart or a brokerage statement knows how bad the economy is.
venividivici on March 9, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Specter is a douche… but that doesn’t make him wrong.
BUT, the thing most people are missing is that we weren’t on the verge of a depression… until we elected a socialist.
It is The One’s very policies that are bringing on a depression. Get ready folks, it ain’t getting better.
Carbon tax going to kill us all… income taxes jacked up on job creators… trillions of dollars we don’t have being borrowed and tossed at non-stimulative things… socialized medicine on the way (i.e. higher and higher taxes)… social security and medicare which are essentially already bankrupt and getting worse.
RightWinged on March 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Specter is full of crap.
The market would pull out of this quickly if the Marxists in the Politburo would stop trying to remake our country and enact pro-market legislation that included just four things: eliminate or drastically reduce corporate income taxes, eliminate or drastically reduce capital gains taxes, repeal mark to market, scrap SOX, and let’s make it five, open us land on and offshore to energy exploration.
Economics is much more about common sense than the mavens in DC would have us all believe. It’s mostly about reducing the burden of government.
DerKrieger on March 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM
That’s all very true, but since we know that the idiots in the federal government are going to push their anti-growth, anti-competitive, anti-industry, pro-union, … positions, our economy and monetary system is toast and the bottom is so far beneath where we are now that people have not a clue.
progressoverpeace on March 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Interesting. So are you suggesting that you don’t believe the single bullet theory? Could you elaborate on what you think really happened?
We’re through the looking glass here, people.
Proud Rino on March 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Poor Arlen – if only he were more than just an average American, at a vulnerable age, filled with dread and worry, isolated and powerless. If only he had access to people in positions of responsibility, or was one such person himself, and could expose the truth to the American people, provide access to the information that has made him so afraid!
So sad.
CK MacLeod on March 9, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Watch it and act! Burn the lines tomorrow.
http://demint.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=JimsJournal.BlogHome
PrincipledPilgrim on March 9, 2009 at 8:53 PM
As a PA GOP supporter, I have never received a communication of any sort from Arlen Specter…until recently when he sent two emails justifying his vote in the same CYA phrasings.
It was impossible to reach his office phone lines when the porkulus was coming up for a vote.
Say hello to Pat Toomey and good-bye to Arlen Specter. Specter has not used his seniority and power on behalf of the taxpayers.
onlineanalyst on March 9, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Someone produces film of Sean Penn shopping in Walmart.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on March 9, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Ok, so who knows for sure how bad it is and what are their numbers so I can start calling the deceitful bastards. I’ve served a couple combat tours and 35 years as a soldier and I don’t need some politician in the nanny government withholding information from me.
rplat on March 9, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I agree and disagree. We could be on the verge of doom; we don’t have to be. In any case, every small business owner and entrepreneur I know and have brushed up with recently feels as if he/she now has an enemy in the government, and is planning on contraction not expansion. This may be emotional, but of such things economies are made.
rrpjr on March 9, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Excellent!
apco on March 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM
The Kennedy Assassination. Adult Language Warning.
chunderroad on March 9, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Wait a tick,I thought the Liberals made it clear,that the economy,was in a Perpetual NeverEnding,and continual non-
stop ‘Crisis’ of biblical DoomsDay Catostrophic perportions!
canopfor on March 9, 2009 at 9:14 PM
First, I wouldn’t believe anything Specter says.
Second, pork barrel spending doesn’t prove that we aren’t in a serious recession.
Hell, congress critters will spend in the middle of any crisis. Their attitude is get it while you can.
And those “friends in New York” must not have seen their 401Ks go down the tubes like the rest of us.
Deanna on March 9, 2009 at 9:16 PM
This is like Barry saying he is reversing a ban on something that wasn’t banned (stem cell research).
The banks were forced to sell preferred stock to the US Govt. They were not given tax-payer dollars as a bailout.
There is a SERIOUS distinction which the Govt and the Press never make.
I am not saying the banks are in good shape. Citi and BOFA are, in my non expert opinion, ready to fail. Wells Fargo is not in such bad shape–certainly not good shape, but not nearly as bad as Citi and BOFA.
A few more comments:
1. Yes, things are bad.
2. Things will get worse because the Govt and the Press hide the main reason things are bad, i.e. Government involvement in the markets. And now the Govt and the Press are calling for more of the virus to fix the problems. Insanity. Some might even say “deranged”.
3. We have a socialist in office and a lap dog Congress and a lap dog Press. NOT GOOD.
4. Specter has a self interest in things being bad. It helps his legacy. It excuses his support of curing the patient by killing him.
5. We have an opposition party (GOP) that is nothing more than Liberal-Light. It’s a party without leadership populated by people more concerned about PC speech when it talks to and about the people and ideology that caused our current collapse.
Folks, be aware. Liberal hatred and envy of production, individual affluence and yes, religion, is going to choke our country unconscious.
But at least we’ll be a tolerant people, right? And being popular with self-appointed elites is cool, right?
Montana on March 9, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Spectacle is a lying, loathsome piece of catshit. He has many fellow dungbeetles in congress and to hell with them all!
jsanderssr on March 9, 2009 at 9:21 PM
30 pieces of silver adjusted for inflation would be $6 billion, in this case. Pull the plug on this RINO vegetable.
chunderroad on March 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM
More canned goods may be a good investment right about now.
CP on March 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Those who invest in the stock market are telling everyone who is listening what to expect under an Obama administration which will quadruple the deficit this year.
You made One Big Ass Mistake America.
And Specter is an idiot for helping Obama make things worse.
The economy will not improve until this socialist is voted out in 2012. People will hold onto their money rather than invest in an economy run by an arrogant, lying, know-nothing socialist.
Basilsbest on March 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
You know what I really hate? OK, obviously I have some affection for guys like Specter because I think he genuinely operates outside of the partisan framework more often than most politicians, but it’s understandable that conservatives are going to dislike him the same way liberals can’t stand Lieberman.
Fair enough. But you know stuff like this
is really reprehensible. Whether you like him or not, Specter has dedicated almost 50 years of his life to public service. You don’t need to call him names to get the point across that you don’t like him.
Proud Rino on March 9, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Specter: The public’s not being told just how bad the economy is
Barry said over and over again, it’s a “Crisis on the verge of catastrophe”.
WTF is worse than that Arlen?
Nice try. You’re still a turncoat loser serving out your last term. Get used to it.
fogw on March 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Specter’s tied to the spending bill now as much as Obama or any Democrat up for election in 2010, so it’s in his interests to bad-mouth the economy and make it sound as if Arlen and his vote is/was the only thing between middle class American and soup lines in homeless shelters.
jon1979 on March 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM
In the big picture of this budget bill, the earmarks are really small. I am bothered more by the across the board increase in spending for the government as a whole. If we are all having to tighten our belts and try to be smarter about expenditures, why doesn’t the federal government? Especially when you combine it it with TARP and Spendulous. As to the bank failures, I am sure that when National Healthcare is enacted those problems will be a thing of the past. Right?
Cindy Munford on March 9, 2009 at 9:40 PM
The real information is being hidden by our government in Area 51, along with those other things, like, well, you know.
Yoop on March 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Specter’s a worm. I don’t care how much of his life he dedicated to public service – he got a lot of power and recognition for his “public service”, much more than he ever deserved.
You make really sad arguments, you know. Someone’s great length of time leeching off us in government is something commendable, you think? Crazy.
progressoverpeace on March 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM
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ED! Plus, like, I dunno, 9,283!
SouthernGent on March 9, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Sen. Spetre interprets the public opinion poll opposition to further bailouts as a sign that we are ignorant. I dunno.
Perhaps we have finally decided that it is not patriotic for the government to throw money into a giant hole, but that is a debate worth having. : ))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnX-D4kkPOQ&eurl=http://newmexicoindependent.com/10254/should-america-close-the-money-hole
Angry Dumbo on March 9, 2009 at 9:48 PM
As opposed to your arguments, like “Specter’s a worm, I don’t care how much of his life he dedicated to public service…” Well how can anyone refute that? You don’t care? Brilliant, PoP. Brilliant stuff.
Specter could have done what most people do coming out of Yale/Harvard/Stanford Law – go to a firm, make a ton of money, make partner, retire young, and swim around in a pool of gold coins a la Scrooge McDuck for the rest of your life.
But Specter went into public service instead. So he could have people like you call him a worm, and endure the hatred of people who are in his own party.
I’m not saying he needs any special recognition, but I think he does deserve a little respect. Maybe that’s old-fashioned. Oh well.
Proud Rino on March 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM
In other words, the economy is not really that bad. IF these guys would shut up unemployment would stop at 10% or just under, recovery would being in the fall.
But like a true commie (they must have initiated him and Snow and that other gal at the White House) they want to scare the shit out of everyone to keep them under control.
Liberty is dead.
And we deserve it for letting someone as incapable and obviously an enemy of the USA to gain control of the country.
klickink.wordpress.com on March 9, 2009 at 9:54 PM
It’s not my fault that Specter’s a worm.
The US would have been better off if he had done that. His vote for the Porkulus is tantamount to treason, as far as I figure. But, I guess you would have thought that Benedict Arnold deserved leniency for his years of service and the blood he spilled in the Revolution … before he tried to sell us out and became the most infamous traitor in US history.
Poor, widdle Arlen.
You said that his long “public service” was some sort of brownie mark for him. That is awful reasoning. Just think, his years of great sacrifice serving in the US Senate … John Corzine spent $70 million of his own money to suffer along with Specter.
progressoverpeace on March 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Proud Rino on March 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM
I think Specter went to Penn but that is about his only tie to PA before the Senate. You’re kidding yourself if you think he hasn’t made a killing in the Senate, please spare me the public service stuff. I voted for him last time because Bush went to bat for him. I regret that vote more than I can say.
He had so much power in that vote he could have used to do a real stimulus package if this economy is in such dire straits. Instead he got next to nothing for his vote but the ire of the party he needs to back him for yet another round. We need term limits and the Specters of the world can go cash in the private sector instead of cashing in on the citizens they are supposed to represent.
msmveritas on March 9, 2009 at 10:03 PM
You forget… in the world of saltwater economics, government spending is desirable during market downturns…
elgeneralisimo on March 9, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Along with grandiose government as Obama’s insanne “solution,” the derivatives mountain is still being built up to “solve” the problem of counterparty risk.
When the whole thing collapses at the foundation we will wish that Tunguska II space rock hit earth instead.
econavenger on March 9, 2009 at 10:06 PM
PoP-
Benedict Arnold changed sides in the middle of the Revolutionary War and tried to surrender territory to the British. He was a great general, but ultimately he valued himself over his country. What he did could have easily lost the war and ended the country before it even really existed.
Arlen Specter voted for the stimulus package, which will probably cause him to lose in the primary to Pat Toomey, effectively ending his political career hated by his own party. You may not like it, but Specter did not do this for his own self-interest, he voted for the package because he thought it was the right thing to do – along with wide majorities in both houses, all of whom were elected by the people.
I didn’t say it was a brownie mark, I said his service accorded him some respect. He’s served for decades, and despite you not agreeing with his votes, he’s served honorably.
I know, I know, “HE’S A TRAITOROUS WORM YOU ARE SCUM BLAH BLAH BLAH.” Right. Got it. Skip it.
Proud Rino on March 9, 2009 at 10:07 PM
DerKrieger on March 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I agree.
If I had 6. and 7. 6. Return Government to Constitutional limits, (sorry Libs, no Socialism for you/Sorry Republicans, no Drug war for you). 7. Fix money to gold. Printing money is so Zimbabwesque’.
GunRunner on March 9, 2009 at 10:08 PM
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